Guest guest Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 Hi Jim and thank you for your post on the CSF colors. Please keep me in the loop with all responses you might get off-board; I will also be sending you and this group a message about my cancer project. And I would love to see this topic explored! I feel that the description of color and texture (and motion!) is a step into the reality of acceptance for the patient; the more specific they can be in describing their own dis-ease, patients gain sense of empowerment and willingness to venture into their own "cure" (I happen to be interested in cancer at the moment, AND am clear that the dynamic is true of all dis-ease) A multi-sensory recognition/appreciation of the cancer is an emotional and psychological move on the patient's part into acceptance, knowing that this *thing* in the body is not "the other" but the self (all of it being illusion and corporeal accident at our own imagination anyway!) is a wonderful place to shepherd a patient who is battling issues of being "plagued" by illness/pathology (as is the instinctual assessment of the ego/identity when we first notice pain/discomfort/sickness). The more fully we can label the pathology as simply What Is So, the less emotional burden it can be and the less likely we are to let associated anxieties become the actual burden of dis-ease. More on this for certain. Thank you for an excellent observation and question. Peaceful day to all, TomJ. Thomas Acklin MD 571-278-4326 "Another world is not only possible, she is on her way. On a quiet day, I can hear her breathing." -Arundhati Roy--- On Tue, 8/12/08, James R. Knippenberg <erommel wrote: James R. Knippenberg <erommel Cerebrospinal fluid? Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 6:07 AM Hi.I was just doing an RV drill. I was focused on the energies going up the spine.I normally "see" the nervous system as an "electric blue" with some exceptions where I see grey or black.(I know I've "seen" black central nervous system on dead people before, which is one way I "knew" they were dead, but I've also seen parts of the nerve network as black when someone had a seizure or some other type of problem, and I don't necessarily think it means "dead nerves," but rather maybe absense of electrical or "animating" activity?)Anyway...I had a sudden thought about how the one hookup drill brings cerebral spinal fluid up the spine to the brain.But what color is it?Because when I was focused on the energies I saw going up the spine, what I saw were "lines" or "strands" of thin energies of red, green, blue, and white.I say "strands" but think of thin wires that are color coded, and think maybe in terms of a spiraling staircase going up the spine, or perhaps like the way DNA spirals.So if the chakra energies go UP the spine, then "should" I have seen all the chakra colors in those "bands" or "strands" of energy?I know Ingo Swann described the nerves as having a color, then a different set of colors for accupressure points, and another color for the meridians.So what did what I think I "saw" when I was Remote Viewing mean?And by the way, I'm pretty SURE that's what I "saw". Whether or not there was MORE I didn't "see" is another question, but I'm pretty SURE on what I know I saw.I'm sure the colors have a meaning. Is it significant that I didn't see ALL the chakra colors there? Or not? What else is interesting is that blue was lower down than just the level of the throat chakra, but see, I know the throat chakra is supposed to send all the chakra energies through it, both up and down, but what I "Saw" was going UP the spine, in somewhat of a "spiraling staircase" pattern. Not up and down.Maybe I only saw part of the picture.Any ideas on it?Thanks,JimP.S. What color is cerbrospinal fluid supposed to be? I "think" it's something totally different than what I saw. Correct?P.S.S. Is this the right place to ask this? Or is it better to go on the Members Only area? I did / do find the report you posted for this month real useful. I've read it at least 4 times now. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 Hi. Just a few thoughts firing off upon reading your post: About colors: Donna Eden in Energy Medecine says "[...] So while there is some basis for the correspondences between the chakras and their associated colors - from red at the root to violet at the crown - the vibrational relationships of the chakras and their colors are far more complex." I personally do visualisations of the chakras using the "standard" colors and find that satisfactory. I also sometimes visualise white light on the principle that the energy system will take what it needs and find that also satisfactory. My girlfriend and I sometimes disagree about colors, whether something is green or blue... I think each individual has his/her own personal "energy color chart", both in emission and reception (Donna Eden says also "We see the colors of another's chakras through our own filters."). ....so, altogether, I don't pay that much attention to colors but rather to intensity, contrast, brightness, etc. though I keep in mind that some colors will be more meaningful to some people than others. About your seeing an up movement and not down: You say "I was focused on the energies going *up* the spine" and "I had a sudden thought about [...] cerebral spinal fluid *up* the spine to the brain" and again "I was focused on the energies I saw going *up* the spine" (my emphasis on *up*)... which leads me to think you possibly were focused on energies going up and thus filtered out the other ones? Apparently you focused on the throat area; did you also spend time focusing on the rest of the spine, and, if yes, did you observe the same phenomena (color, direction, etc.)? So if the chakra energies go UP the spine, then "should" I have seen all the chakra colors in those "bands" or "strands" of energy? I see a presupposition that those strands of energy were related to the chakras. Is that correct? Thanks for posting, James. Your achievements suggest very nice goals in perception/awareness :-) Francois James R. Knippenberg a écrit : Hi. I was just doing an RV drill. I was focused on the energies going up the spine. I normally "see" the nervous system as an "electric blue" with some exceptions where I see grey or black. (I know I've "seen" black central nervous system on dead people before, which is one way I "knew" they were dead, but I've also seen parts of the nerve network as black when someone had a seizure or some other type of problem, and I don't necessarily think it means "dead nerves," but rather maybe absense of electrical or "animating" activity?) Anyway... I had a sudden thought about how the one hookup drill brings cerebral spinal fluid up the spine to the brain. But what color is it? Because when I was focused on the energies I saw going up the spine, what I saw were "lines" or "strands" of thin energies of red, green, blue, and white. I say "strands" but think of thin wires that are color coded, and think maybe in terms of a spiraling staircase going up the spine, or perhaps like the way DNA spirals. So if the chakra energies go UP the spine, then "should" I have seen all the chakra colors in those "bands" or "strands" of energy? I know Ingo Swann described the nerves as having a color, then a different set of colors for accupressure points, and another color for the meridians. So what did what I think I "saw" when I was Remote Viewing mean? And by the way, I'm pretty SURE that's what I "saw". Whether or not there was MORE I didn't "see" is another question, but I'm pretty SURE on what I know I saw. I'm sure the colors have a meaning. Is it significant that I didn't see ALL the chakra colors there? Or not? What else is interesting is that blue was lower down than just the level of the throat chakra, but see, I know the throat chakra is supposed to send all the chakra energies through it, both up and down, but what I "Saw" was going UP the spine, in somewhat of a "spiraling staircase" pattern. Not up and down. Maybe I only saw part of the picture. Any ideas on it? Thanks, Jim P.S. What color is cerbrospinal fluid supposed to be? I "think" it's something totally different than what I saw. Correct? P.S.S. Is this the right place to ask this? Or is it better to go on the Members Only area? I did / do find the report you posted for this month real useful. I've read it at least 4 times now. Thank you. --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 , " James R. Knippenberg " <erommel wrote: > > > Hi. > > I was just doing an RV drill. I was focused on the energies going up the spine. > > I normally " see " the nervous system as an " electric blue " with some exceptions where I see grey or black. > > (I know I've " seen " black central nervous system on dead people before, which is one way I " knew " they were dead, but I've also seen parts of the nerve network as black when someone had a seizure or some other type of problem, and I don't necessarily think it means " dead nerves, " but rather maybe absense of electrical or " animating " activity?) That was interesting. While in the vatican I noticed this fellow that was just standing there 'watching' others. And I 'looked' into his spinal area and going down his spine was black gunk that got very thick around his lower back and into his Cir Sex Lymphatics... So I remotely just changed the color of what I 'saw' to a gold vibrant color. The guy straightened up, looked over in my direction and nodded 'hello' to me. John M. La Tourrette, PhD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Hi. I was focused on the energies going up, but not specifically on the throat area. I was also focusing on the energies going back down, but not when I saw those colors. I saw them "going up". They were vibrant, bright colors. And, yes, I believed at the time, and still do, that those energies I sensed and saw were related to chakra energy going up the spine or at least going up something near the spine. I will get back to the other posts in a little bit. The new episode of Ice Road Truckers is on, and, man I love this show I don't know why... It's about a bunch of guys driving over the Artic Ocean ice in overloaded tractor trailer trucks. But I like it, so I'll be back later. Jim Francois Olivier Aug 12, 2008 11:02 AM Re: Cerebrospinal fluid? Hi.Just a few thoughts firing off upon reading your post:About colors:Donna Eden in Energy Medecine says "[...] So while there is some basis for the correspondences between the chakras and their associated colors - from red at the root to violet at the crown - the vibrational relationships of the chakras and their colors are far more complex."I personally do visualisations of the chakras using the "standard" colors and find that satisfactory. I also sometimes visualise white light on the principle that the energy system will take what it needs and find that also satisfactory.My girlfriend and I sometimes disagree about colors, whether something is green or blue...I think each individual has his/her own personal "energy color chart", both in emission and reception (Donna Eden says also "We see the colors of another's chakras through our own filters.")....so, altogether, I don't pay that much attention to colors but rather to intensity, contrast, brightness, etc. though I keep in mind that some colors will be more meaningful to some people than others.About your seeing an up movement and not down:You say "I was focused on the energies going *up* the spine" and "I had a sudden thought about [...] cerebral spinal fluid *up* the spine to the brain" and again "I was focused on the energies I saw going *up* the spine" (my emphasis on *up*)... which leads me to think you possibly were focused on energies going up and thus filtered out the other ones?Apparently you focused on the throat area; did you also spend time focusing on the rest of the spine, and, if yes, did you observe the same phenomena (color, direction, etc.)? So if the chakra energies go UP the spine, then "should" I have seen all the chakra colors in those "bands" or "strands" of energy?I see a presupposition that those strands of energy were related to the chakras. Is that correct?Thanks for posting, James.Your achievements suggest very nice goals in perception/awareness :-)FrancoisJames R. Knippenberg a écrit : Hi. I was just doing an RV drill. I was focused on the energies going up the spine. I normally "see" the nervous system as an "electric blue" with some exceptions where I see grey or black. (I know I've "seen" black central nervous system on dead people before, which is one way I "knew" they were dead, but I've also seen parts of the nerve network as black when someone had a seizure or some other type of problem, and I don't necessarily think it means "dead nerves," but rather maybe absense of electrical or "animating" activity?) Anyway... I had a sudden thought about how the one hookup drill brings cerebral spinal fluid up the spine to the brain. But what color is it? Because when I was focused on the energies I saw going up the spine, what I saw were "lines" or "strands" of thin energies of red, green, blue, and white. I say "strands" but think of thin wires that are color coded, and think maybe in terms of a spiraling staircase going up the spine, or perhaps like the way DNA spirals. So if the chakra energies go UP the spine, then "should" I have seen all the chakra colors in those "bands" or "strands" of energy? I know Ingo Swann described the nerves as having a color, then a different set of colors for accupressure points, and another color for the meridians. So what did what I think I "saw" when I was Remote Viewing mean? And by the way, I'm pretty SURE that's what I "saw". Whether or not there was MORE I didn't "see" is another question, but I'm pretty SURE on what I know I saw. I'm sure the colors have a meaning. Is it significant that I didn't see ALL the chakra colors there? Or not? What else is interesting is that blue was lower down than just the level of the throat chakra, but see, I know the throat chakra is supposed to send all the chakra energies through it, both up and down, but what I "Saw" was going UP the spine, in somewhat of a "spiraling staircase" pattern. Not up and down. Maybe I only saw part of the picture. Any ideas on it? Thanks, Jim P.S. What color is cerbrospinal fluid supposed to be? I "think" it's something totally different than what I saw. Correct? P.S.S. Is this the right place to ask this? Or is it better to go on the Members Only area? I did / do find the report you posted for this month real useful. I've read it at least 4 times now. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 >docspeed2001 <docspeed2001 >Aug 15, 2008 3:35 AM > > Re: Cerebrospinal fluid? > > > >That was interesting. > >While in the vatican I noticed this fellow that was just standing >there 'watching' others. You put 'watching' others in quotes. So was he there just hanging out watching people go by? Or was he 'watching' as in like a predator? A couple of weeks ago, while I was working and also watching energy fields in the mall food court, a guy who was acting weird kept looking around in a suspicious way (ie, he looked paranoid). He finally did sit down within view of some teenage girls and a guy at a table. He kept looking all around him, then took out his phone, and I could see from his screen (although it was too far away to see details) he was taking pictures of the people at the table (I'm assuming it was the girls, as that matched my feelings about the guy and matched the other people he was looking at). Now usually when I see someone 'watching' in that way, whenever they notice I've hooked in to their energy field, they get up and leave. I wonder what you mean when you said 'watching' because you said the black gunk was going into his Cir Sex Lymphatics? He straightened up when he noticed you, so I'm assuming that's a statement regarding his physiology. When you changed the color to a gold vibrant color, did you have a specific emotion / thought / feeling associated with the color? You also said the gunk was going DOWN the spine. Is this significant? In other words, if you take the Edgar Cayce model of energies going up the chakras, so he had a thought / energy that was his segment intending (ie., third eye) that was then going back DOWN in to the other chakras? Or do you mean something else? Maybe I'm reading too much in to it, but I'm interested in what you noticed and what you did. Thanks Doc, Jim > >And I 'looked' into his spinal area and going down his spine was >black gunk that got very thick around his lower back and into his Cir Sex Lymphatics... > >So I remotely just changed the color of what I 'saw' to a gold vibrant color. > >The guy straightened up, looked over in my direction and >nodded 'hello' to me. > >John M. La Tourrette, PhD > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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