People sometimes don't notice what is going on

[Guest guest]

, Helen

Driscoll <helen wrote:

>

> Hi Mary,

>

> Wow.

>

> Hi drivingphobia,

>

> Why do you call yourself " drivingphobia " ?

>

> Very curious!

>

> Helen Driscoll

 

Hi Helen,

 

First this is NOT to put Mary down but to mention what I noticed

about her post.

 

Which might or might not fit her situation.

 

Possible because the phobia has become her idenity and one of her

ways of getting fulfillment and communication from others?

 

Phobias talked about often to anyone that will listen usually have

some massive secondary gains.

 

Their pain gives them a unique kind of individuality, making them

deserving of sympathy and concern, which can lend drama and even

prupose to an seemingly lonely and meaningless life. It can give

some people a strange sense of misdirected power, using guilt or

sympathy to manipulate others around them.

 

The above normally fits those people who say, " I did XYZ but XYZ did

NOT work for me at all " .

 

So it could be because it did not work, which is very un-usual.

 

It could be that it worked somewhat but they do not know how to

calibrate results and then verify those results.

 

There is a massive difference between what the conscious mind 'thinks

unthinkingly' and how the subconscious mind actually can be cleared

but the conscious mind continues to hold on and bring back because of

many reasons.

 

And there are other possible versions.

 

John M. La Tourrette, PhD

[Guest guest]

Hello Doc Group

Some weeks ago I have

asked

Lori about my dog

and how to calm his stress

I got an answer

and

Did

not even bothered to do

Or answer Lori’s

great mail

What passed my

mind

Is ‘’I

do not succeed immediately in eft(I am metal

It has to be

perfect now)

I did try it in

the past blblbla……’’

This was the old

Orna –and old habits sometimes popup

So

Last week our dog

started to show signs

As if he is going

to be paralyzed again

When he moved

He screamed from

pain

I already saw

ourselves spending the night in the animals hospital

And

I didn’t want that at all

So

I remembered Lori’s

email

And what Doc told

me 2 years ago

What to do

It passed my mind

‘’it

won’t work’’

But

I asked my self

‘’How

I Can I Make It Work?’’

And the answer

came intuitively to My Hands

I rubbed my hands

before holding his NV

Remembering what

Lori said

That their system

is the same

He sighed as if relived

I continued for few

more times during the day

And the screaming

stopped

My husband told

me the day after

‘’I wanted

to buy you flowers …’’

I asked why

‘’for

what you do for Hamudi ( our dog)

For how powerful

you are

The dog is ok now

lively and running all over

 

And

I continue to hold his NV twice a day

 

Thank you Lori .Doc

 

and me for

listening

 

Orna

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of docspeed2001

Friday,

August 15, 2008 9:54 AM

 

 

People sometimes don't notice what is going on

 

 

 

 

 

,

Helen

Driscoll <helen wrote:

>

> Hi Mary,

>

> Wow.

>

> Hi drivingphobia,

>

> Why do you call yourself " drivingphobia " ?

>

> Very curious!

>

> Helen Driscoll

 

Hi Helen,

 

First this is NOT to put Mary down but to mention what I noticed

about her post.

 

Which might or might not fit her situation.

 

Possible because the phobia has become her idenity and one of her

ways of getting fulfillment and communication from others?

 

Phobias talked about often to anyone that will listen usually have

some massive secondary gains.

 

Their pain gives them a unique kind of individuality, making them

deserving of sympathy and concern, which can lend drama and even

prupose to an seemingly lonely and meaningless life. It can give

some people a strange sense of misdirected power, using guilt or

sympathy to manipulate others around them.

 

The above normally fits those people who say, " I did XYZ but XYZ did

NOT work for me at all " .

 

So it could be because it did not work, which is very un-usual.

 

It could be that it worked somewhat but they do not know how to

calibrate results and then verify those results.

 

There is a massive difference between what the conscious mind 'thinks

unthinkingly' and how the subconscious mind actually can be cleared

but the conscious mind continues to hold on and bring back because of

many reasons.

 

And there are other possible versions.

 

John M. La Tourrette, PhD

[Guest guest]

Hi Orna,

 

I always love your innovation, you did what you intuitively knew would

work with your skills and personality.

 

One of my favorite " tools " is knowing from experience that energy

follows thought and that everything is connected on the subtle energy

level.

 

A question for you, or maybe just something to notice:

 

While you were holding your dog's NV's was there a certain outcome you

desired, a certain feeling you had? Were you relaxed, breathing

slowly and deeply, using " soft " vision? Something else?

 

Thanks,

 

Lori

 

 

 

 

, simple

<simple wrote:

>

> Hello Doc Group

>

> Some weeks ago I have asked

>

> Lori about my dog and how to calm his stress

>

> I got an answer and

>

> Did not even bothered to do

>

> Or answer Lori's great mail

>

> What passed my mind

>

> Is ''I do not succeed immediately in eft(I am metal

>

> It has to be perfect now)

>

> I did try it in the past blblbla..''

>

> This was the old Orna -and old habits sometimes popup

>

> So

>

> Last week our dog started to show signs

>

> As if he is going to be paralyzed again

>

> When he moved

>

> He screamed from pain

>

> I already saw ourselves spending the night in the animals hospital

>

> And I didn't want that at all

>

> So

>

> I remembered Lori's email

>

> And what Doc told me 2 years ago

>

> What to do

>

> It passed my mind

>

> ''it won't work''

>

> But

>

> I asked my self

>

> ''How I Can I Make It Work?''

>

> And the answer came intuitively to My Hands

>

> I rubbed my hands before holding his NV

>

> Remembering what Lori said

>

> That their system is the same

>

> He sighed as if relived

>

> I continued for few more times during the day

>

> And the screaming stopped

>

> My husband told me the day after

>

> ''I wanted to buy you flowers .''

>

> I asked why

>

> ''for what you do for Hamudi ( our dog)

>

> For how powerful you are

>

> The dog is ok now lively and running all over

>

>

>

>

> And I continue to hold his NV twice a day

>

>

>

> Thank you Lori .Doc

>

> and me for listening

>

>

>

> Orna

>

>

>

> _____

>

>

> On Behalf Of

> docspeed2001

> Friday, August 15, 2008 9:54 AM

>

> People sometimes don't notice

> what is going on

>

>

>

> healingenergies-

> <%40>

> essentialskills , Helen

> Driscoll <helen@> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Mary,

> >

> > Wow.

> >

> > Hi drivingphobia,

> >

> > Why do you call yourself " drivingphobia " ?

> >

> > Very curious!

> >

> > Helen Driscoll

>

> Hi Helen,

>

> First this is NOT to put Mary down but to mention what I noticed

> about her post.

>

> Which might or might not fit her situation.

>

> Possible because the phobia has become her idenity and one of her

> ways of getting fulfillment and communication from others?

>

> Phobias talked about often to anyone that will listen usually have

> some massive secondary gains.

>

> Their pain gives them a unique kind of individuality, making them

> deserving of sympathy and concern, which can lend drama and even

> prupose to an seemingly lonely and meaningless life. It can give

> some people a strange sense of misdirected power, using guilt or

> sympathy to manipulate others around them.

>

> The above normally fits those people who say, " I did XYZ but XYZ did

> NOT work for me at all " .

>

> So it could be because it did not work, which is very un-usual.

>

> It could be that it worked somewhat but they do not know how to

> calibrate results and then verify those results.

>

> There is a massive difference between what the conscious mind 'thinks

> unthinkingly' and how the subconscious mind actually can be cleared

> but the conscious mind continues to hold on and bring back because of

> many reasons.

>

> And there are other possible versions.

>

> John M. La Tourrette, PhD

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Lori

Good question

While I was holding my

dog’s NV

I knew it is not a disk eruption

I saw in his right back

leg a  round red circle

Of  about 6cm radius

Seeing it was with my

eyes upwards closed

As I continued it went

from red to pale pink

And indeed in physical reality

our dog screamed

While moving from one

position to the other

Another thought that was

there is that it is

An energy conjugation in

his hip

And

I felt that he takes my

energy and it was very warm

And tingling

I was very concentrated

and very determent

And the other dog the

pointer who is his best friend

Came to leek me –she noticed

too

Thank you Lori for

letting myself noticing all those details

With a good question

 

Orna

This night I got up with

my hip hurting me

ïi remembered our dog

So I grasped my

NV put a pillow so the hip will

Be same level as

my knees

Went to sleep

Got up no pain

nothing

Interesting

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of darthon4

Sunday,

August 17, 2008 8:45 PM

 

 

Re: People sometimes don't notice what is going on

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Orna,

 

I always love your innovation, you did what you intuitively knew would

work with your skills and personality.

 

One of my favorite " tools " is knowing from experience that energy

follows thought and that everything is connected on the subtle energy

level.

 

A question for you, or maybe just something to notice:

 

While you were holding your dog's NV's was there a certain outcome you

desired, a certain feeling you had? Were you relaxed, breathing

slowly and deeply, using " soft " vision? Something else?

 

Thanks,

 

Lori

 

,

simple

<simple wrote:

>

> Hello Doc Group

>

> Some weeks ago I have asked

>

> Lori about my dog and how to calm his stress

>

> I got an answer and

>

> Did not even bothered to do

>

> Or answer Lori's great mail

>

> What passed my mind

>

> Is ''I do not succeed immediately in eft(I am metal

>

> It has to be perfect now)

>

> I did try it in the past blblbla..''

>

> This was the old Orna -and old habits sometimes popup

>

> So

>

> Last week our dog started to show signs

>

> As if he is going to be paralyzed again

>

> When he moved

>

> He screamed from pain

>

> I already saw ourselves spending the night in the animals hospital

>

> And I didn't want that at all

>

> So

>

> I remembered Lori's email

>

> And what Doc told me 2 years ago

>

> What to do

>

> It passed my mind

>

> ''it won't work''

>

> But

>

> I asked my self

>

> ''How I Can I Make It Work?''

>

> And the answer came intuitively to My Hands

>

> I rubbed my hands before holding his NV

>

> Remembering what Lori said

>

> That their system is the same

>

> He sighed as if relived

>

> I continued for few more times during the day

>

> And the screaming stopped

>

> My husband told me the day after

>

> ''I wanted to buy you flowers .''

>

> I asked why

>

> ''for what you do for Hamudi ( our dog)

>

> For how powerful you are

>

> The dog is ok now lively and running all over

>

>

>

>

> And I continue to hold his NV twice a day

>

>

>

> Thank you Lori .Doc

>

> and me for listening

>

>

>

> Orna

>

>

>

> _____

>

>

>

On Behalf Of

> docspeed2001

> Friday, August 15, 2008 9:54 AM

>

> People sometimes don't

notice

> what is going on

>

>

>

> healingenergies-

> <%40>

> essentialskills ,

Helen

> Driscoll <helen@> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Mary,

> >

> > Wow.

> >

> > Hi drivingphobia,

> >

> > Why do you call yourself " drivingphobia " ?

> >

> > Very curious!

> >

> > Helen Driscoll

>

> Hi Helen,

>

> First this is NOT to put Mary down but to mention what I noticed

> about her post.

>

> Which might or might not fit her situation.

>

> Possible because the phobia has become her idenity and one of her

> ways of getting fulfillment and communication from others?

>

> Phobias talked about often to anyone that will listen usually have

> some massive secondary gains.

>

> Their pain gives them a unique kind of individuality, making them

> deserving of sympathy and concern, which can lend drama and even

> prupose to an seemingly lonely and meaningless life. It can give

> some people a strange sense of misdirected power, using guilt or

> sympathy to manipulate others around them.

>

> The above normally fits those people who say, " I did XYZ but XYZ did

> NOT work for me at all " .

>

> So it could be because it did not work, which is very un-usual.

>

> It could be that it worked somewhat but they do not know how to

> calibrate results and then verify those results.

>

> There is a massive difference between what the conscious mind 'thinks

> unthinkingly' and how the subconscious mind actually can be cleared

> but the conscious mind continues to hold on and bring back because of

> many reasons.

>

> And there are other possible versions.

>

> John M. La Tourrette, PhD

>