Guest guest Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 I just read an interesting discussion on the " physicians " group, a group to which I do NOT belong because my PhD is in Sports Psychology and I'm not a medical doctor. I'm a Peak Performance Coach and that group is for medical doctors. I do not match their given criteria. But I do go on and read their posts because I want to know and learn from them. And the interesting part was NOT about the lady with the " issues " but was about the solid paradigms that are being expressed. The group is now open to the public, but the reasons it's open to the public is so the public can read 'the doctor's' post and NOT to talk with the doctors about what they are doing energitically with the client. So it's a one-sided conversation. Which is cool. Especially if that was stated at the beginning. It reminds me of when I started studying with Donna 11 years ago, and me being very educated (Wood humor coming through) and good at what I was ALREADY DOING that I just 'cherry-picked' Donna's materials to add to what I already knew. So I totally ignored much stuff that did NOT fit into the world of " John " . Well, it's taken me 11 years to finally NOTICE that Donna has a complete package, and that 'package' should be learned in totality BEFORE, and EXPERIENCED in a clinical session many times BEFORE being allowed to 'cherry-pick'. What I'm seeing happening on that group is 'just more cherry-picking' and I do NOT see an integration of EEM with the medical sciences...which again is okay with me. I'm just curious to " WHY NOT? " , especially since EM is very easy to do? But it takes MORE TIME, much more time. I've 19 MD's that train with me. I've taught a few of them some of the EM tactics. One fellow loves it but cannot use it because it does not fit into the 2-3 minutes of time that he gets with each client. So to use any EM he would need to allocate at least 1 hr (or 1 1/2 hrs) per session and he cannot survive business wise doing that...and he would have trouble explaining it to the insurance people who really pay all the fees. For example it only takes a minute to inject 80 mgs of Depo-Medrol for spinal pain or sciatica, but it takes 2 hrs of on the table with EM. The question is, " What heals them? " and " What just covers the pain? " What do you people think? John M. La Tourrette, PhD The developer of the 3 Year Kahuna Healing Intensive, For more FREE TIPS go to http://mentaltrainingsecrets.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 Doc - Maybe EM could be integrated into a holistic medical practice by dividing up the work, so to speak. Maybe a holistic medical team would devote an EM practitioner to treatment on the table, just not by a doctor. Prescribed, like rehab is prescribed. This thread is really interesting -- because I'm seeing it in practice this week. My older sister came to visit and landed in a local hospital with acute kidney failure -- again. I went to see her at the Emergency Ward before they admitted her to the ICU. She has profound medical problems -- but an astonishing spirit and strength. (and unbelievably stubborn!!) I worked on her for the 3 -4 hours (on and off) waiting to admit her into the hospital. Forget testing -- too stressful. She was in too much pain. (I did check the monitors to see what brought her pulse down) Plus, she' s an above the knee amputee -- so I have to really concentrate on connecting to specific meridian points and flow. Renal failure floods the blood with potassium -- which means muscle cells can't contract. Cross crawls quickly became a bad idea!! I simply couldn't connect to energy in her lower body. So I worked with her radiant circuits - which she really like. Triple warmer/ hookup/ holding neurovasculars. Regulator flow, pulling energy down her body. Clearing chakras. KI and sedating kidney. (Which I could not feel a connection to!!) Today, I finally felt contact with KI -- but only after doing that female vortex swirl off the bottom of her body, like Donna did in the Energy Medicine for Women CD I have. This level of EM is much more like rehab work .... most of the work was in teasing out the energy channels so I could connect! (they way rehab technicians work to get the muscle/joints to engage in that first new motion) Deep healing is so superior to chemically masking the symptoms, but requires COMMITMENT to healing.... Helen On Oct 1, 2008, at 3:07 PM, docspeed2001 wrote: > > > But it takes MORE TIME, much more time. > > I've 19 MD's that train with me. I've taught a few of them some of > the EM tactics. One fellow loves it but cannot use it because it does > not fit into the 2-3 minutes of time that he gets with each client. > > So to use any EM he would need to allocate at least 1 hr (or 1 1/2 > hrs) per session and he cannot survive business wise doing that...and > he would have trouble explaining it to the insurance people who > really pay all the fees. > > For example it only takes a minute to inject 80 mgs of Depo-Medrol > for spinal pain or sciatica, but it takes 2 hrs of on the table with > EM. > > The question is, " What heals them? " and " What just covers the pain? " > > What do you people think? > > John M. La Tourrette, PhD > The developer of the 3 Year Kahuna Healing Intensive, > For more FREE TIPS go to http://mentaltrainingsecrets.com > > > > --- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 At 11:17 PM 10/1/2008, you wrote: Doc - Maybe EM could be integrated into a holistic medical practice by dividing up the work, so to speak. Hi, Helen and all--my small-town doctor already does this for many things--physical therapy for instance, but so far not for EM, although my doctor IS becoming curious. Who knows, she might start including some of that in her treatment plans. I really think this is the way to go for integrating EM into regular practice. What's made her so curious is that my HCV viral count continues to drop, and this is primarily due to what I've learned from Donna Eden's books and dvds. Then I used Silva when a largish lump was discovered in my breast---and by the time my appointment for the mammogram rolled around, it had totally vanished. They took another one, then an ultrasound, still no lump. So she's very curious about what I use, and always asks me about what I'm doing, etc. She's even written down the titles of some of the books--not sure if she bought them, but I'm betting she did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 Teach " them " how to catch fish. Stop giving them fish. :)Troy > For example it only takes a minute to inject 80 mgs of Depo-Medrol > for spinal pain or sciatica, but it takes 2 hrs of on the table with > EM. > > The question is, " What heals them? " and " What just covers the pain? " > > What do you people think? > > John M. La Tourrette, PhD > The developer of the 3 Year Kahuna Healing Intensive, > For more FREE TIPS go to http://mentaltrainingsecrets.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 Jeanne -That is just so great! I've seen MD's get curious when they see a vibrancy in someone. So, it's not just the test results (which is great confirmation) -- but when they observe radiance and vibrancy. (most people that are in the waiting rooms are just so amazing dull and listless!)Maybe turning on our radiant circuits before we see our doc's helps convince them Helen Driscoll On Oct 2, 2008, at 5:10 AM, Jeanne Garner wrote: At 11:17 PM 10/1/2008, you wrote: Doc - Maybe EM could be integrated into a holistic medical practice by dividing up the work, so to speak. Hi, Helen and all--my small-town doctor already does this for many things--physical therapy for instance, but so far not for EM, although my doctor IS becoming curious. Who knows, she might start including some of that in her treatment plans. I really think this is the way to go for integrating EM into regular practice. What's made her so curious is that my HCV viral count continues to drop, and this is primarily due to what I've learned from Donna Eden's books and dvds. Then I used Silva when a largish lump was discovered in my breast---and by the time my appointment for the mammogram rolled around, it had totally vanished. They took another one, then an ultrasound, still no lump. So she's very curious about what I use, and always asks me about what I'm doing, etc. She's even written down the titles of some of the books--not sure if she bought them, but I'm betting she did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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