Guest guest Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 <maalberse wrote: > What seems obvious to me, is that the author of this article has an > agenda of his own... Hi Maarten, Yes, he does, and it's NOT to support anything but to invalidate something. It's totally one-sided to support his negative agenda. So why listen to him or read his materials? Is it because we should always know and understand where the opposition is coming from? > We also have lots of data strongly suggesting that tapping works. > But most likely not, IMO, for " acupuncture reasons " ... Well, I'm pretty much on 'does it work?', and it does work. Then, if it does work, how does it work in comparison with other tactics that also work. That evidence is pretty well established. That means experiences and 'in-the-field research & verification' versus someone's negative agenda, written for what-ever purpose. I find it strange that his 'deletion and choices' process excluded any evidence that it works. Those choices had to be on purpose. > On the other hand, acupuncture theory has a lot of appeal for many > people, which gives acupuncture based treatments a large " placebo- > benefit " . I'm not sure how 'appeal' translates/converts to 'placebo-benefit'? Is it that 'what one likes' works better than 'what one does not know about' or 'one that has read the negative article and now has a nocebo effect'? I remember first reading a Callahan book about 20+ years ago about phobias and the 5 minute cure...and 'knowing' he had to be full of BS...not yet understanding that I was full of BS (belief systems). Evidence will not penetrate a BS barrior. Experience can and will penetrate a BS barrior. I find it very interesting that holding one's forehead neurovasculars work whether there is a positive belief or a negative belief...but something like the Radiant Energies (Strange Flows) only work well when they are backed up by positive thoughts. So if you believe it will, it does. If you believe if won't it won't. But there is something that will penetrate a BS barrior, and that is a 'significant emotional response'. (Morris Massey). Now, is it our job to give any client a 'significant emotional response'? Or should be use their BS as an in-road to our road? Maybe both? Farrelly would probably say 'yes'. Bandler would probably say 'yes'. They both would have their 'it depends' and add in the context of it being appropiate to doing so. John La Tourrette, PhD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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