You are telling me I don't have a legitimate disease...

[Guest guest]

Jeanne amd others,

So are you telling you do not believe I have a legitimate disease

that limits me physically? That my myasthenia is not real? Now if

this Mr X slammed people I am not for that but he asked that ypu

understand my physical limitations. I am hoping that I can get the

stronger treatments at Mayo Clinic like IVIG but in the meantime I

was looking forward to learning more here as I wait for a better doc

to come one board.

I have poored though the book and watched the DVD and found one short

form that allows for not lifting arms above head. I need more of

these. It is physically impossible for me to do anything that

requires arms above shoulders. I do not understand how this is a woe

is me thing/dependent or other such labels. Honestly I am quite

surprised at labels here being assigned so quickly.....thought this

was a healing place?

Kathylee

 

tha , Jeanne

Garner <jeanneg wrote:

>

> For some (a lot of us?) a swift kick in the attitude is the one

thing

> that brings folks out of their " woe-is-me " stupor when the health

(or

> just general karma) hits the fan. I know this from experience.

>

> Kathy, this is not a personal attack, but if you don't kick your

> woe-is-me habit, and pronto, things will only get worse. No one

can

> heal you. Only you can heal you. Start doing the drills, and let

> them work their magic. No excuses, no putting it off. Get off

your

> duff and do it. If you have a difficult time doing them, either

keep

> trying, or innovate. Read the material. View the DVD in the kit

(I

> hope you're not one of those who complains about the price--how

> expensive is bad health?), and do it. Look up your own references,

> and anyway, don't you know that as you go through the book, many

> times you are intuitively guided to exactly what you need? Find

your

> own way. Folks on the list are happy to HELP, but they're not

going

> to do your work for you.

>

> Again, I know this from experience, and I love every bit of what

I've

> learned from it.

>

> Jeanne

>

>

> At 05:21 PM 10/20/2008, you wrote:

>

> >You know group, I really LOVE this list.

> >

> >And one of the MORE important things we can use and teach on this

list

> >is the 'energies of attitude', and how those unconscious 'energies

of

> >attitudes' can make you into a Super Woman/man, or can make your

body

> >destroy itself slowly and painfully.

> >

> >I would love to have some people post about 'attitudes' and how

they

> >can assist...

> >

> >...and how they can inflame.

> >

> >Now Mr. X is no longer with us.

> >

> >He wanted the right to slam people on this list, so he emailed me

> >privately 3 times and attempted to slam me.

> >

> >I love people like that.

> >

> >Too bad he's now gone.

> >

> >It could have been fun to have him participate in a polite,

loving, and

> >meaningful way.

> >

> >

> >

> >--- In

> ><%

40> ,

> > " docspeed2001 "

> ><docspeed2001@> wrote:

> >

> > > > I'm truly surprised that anyone would even take the time to

type out

> > > > an answer that is so rude to another person, especially when

that

> > > > person has said clearly that they have a terrible time using

their

> > > > hands/arms.

> > > >

> > > > Mr. X

> > >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Kathylee,

 

I posted on alternatives that you could do - including visualizing and/or

watching someone else doing the exercise.

 

Please focus on what you can use versus distractions, including continued

claims of helplessness.

 

Many blessings,

Michelle

 

 

Jeanne amd others,

So are you telling you do not believe I have a legitimate disease that

limits me physically? That my myasthenia is not real? Now if this Mr X

slammed people I am not for that but he asked that ypu understand my

physical limitations. I am hoping that I can get the stronger treatments at

Mayo Clinic like IVIG but in the meantime I was looking forward to learning

more here as I wait for a better doc to come one board. I have poored though

the book and watched the DVD and found one short form that allows for not

lifting arms above head. I need more of these. It is physically impossible

for me to do anything that requires arms above shoulders. I do not

understand how this is a woe is me thing/ dependent or other such labels.

Honestly I am quite surprised at labels here being assigned so

quickly.....thought this was a healing place?

Kathylee

[Guest guest]

Kathy, dear heart, please point out where I said anything

about not believing you have a legitimate disease. I said nothing

of the sort.

If you can't lift your arms over your head, lift them as far as you can

this time. Next time lift them a little (even a microscopic length)

further. And so on. INNOVATE. Push yourself.

Don't wait for someone to " fix " you. Do your

part.

Last winter, I fell and tore a rotator cuff when I landed. It was

most difficult to move my arm at all, forget about " over my

head. " I could have given up right then and there, had the

prescribed surgery and then spent the next year and a half

" recovering " --meaning that I might not have had the range of

movement I had before the fall. OR I could find a way to get things

working again without the surgery using PT and EM. I chose the

latter. Some of the Eden work was beyond my range of motion.

Some of the PT was incredibly painful. I innovated. It

worked. I have full range of movement now. I can do ANYTHING,

including pulling my arms behind me, clasping my hands, and pulling both

of them over my head as I bend down (a yoga posture).

I was motivated. I wasn't complaining that I " couldn't "

do this or that. This isn't patting myself on the back, it's

letting you know that if you are motivated, if you can do almost

anything. Henry Ford once said, " If you think you can do a

thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right. " Think

about it, then go back and count the number of times you've stated that

you " can't " or something is " impossible " in your

posts--or in your daily conversations with others.

Sympathy sucks. Full range of motion rocks. Which would you

rather have?

Call me an optimist, but I think you can do it--if you want to.

 

At 06:44 AM 10/22/2008, you wrote:

Jeanne amd others,

So are you telling you do not believe I have a legitimate disease

that limits me physically? That my myasthenia is not real? Now if

this Mr X slammed people I am not for that but he asked that ypu

understand my physical limitations. I am hoping that I can get the

stronger treatments at Mayo Clinic like IVIG but in the meantime I

was looking forward to learning more here as I wait for a better doc

 

to come one board.

I have poored though the book and watched the DVD and found one short

 

form that allows for not lifting arms above head. I need more of

these. It is physically impossible for me to do anything that

requires arms above shoulders. I do not understand how this is a woe

 

is me thing/dependent or other such labels. Honestly I am quite

surprised at labels here being assigned so quickly.....thought this

was a healing place?

Kathylee

tha--- In

 

, Jeanne

Garner <jeanneg wrote:

>

> For some (a lot of us?) a swift kick in the attitude is the one

 

thing

> that brings folks out of their " woe-is-me " stupor when the

health

(or

> just general karma) hits the fan. I know this from experience.

>

> Kathy, this is not a personal attack, but if you don't kick your

 

> woe-is-me habit, and pronto, things will only get worse. No one

 

can

> heal you. Only you can heal you. Start doing the drills, and let

 

> them work their magic. No excuses, no putting it off. Get off

your

> duff and do it. If you have a difficult time doing them, either

 

keep

> trying, or innovate. Read the material. View the DVD in the kit

 

(I

> hope you're not one of those who complains about the price--how

 

> expensive is bad health?), and do it. Look up your own references,

 

> and anyway, don't you know that as you go through the book, many

 

> times you are intuitively guided to exactly what you need? Find

 

your

> own way. Folks on the list are happy to HELP, but they're not

going

> to do your work for you.

>

> Again, I know this from experience, and I love every bit of what

 

I've

> learned from it.

>

> Jeanne

>

>

> At 05:21 PM 10/20/2008, you wrote:

>

> >You know group, I really LOVE this list.

> >

> >And one of the MORE important things we can use and teach on

this

list

> >is the 'energies of attitude', and how those unconscious

'energies

of

> >attitudes' can make you into a Super Woman/man, or can make your

 

body

> >destroy itself slowly and painfully.

> >

> >I would love to have some people post about 'attitudes' and how

 

they

> >can assist...

> >

> >...and how they can inflame.

> >

> >Now Mr. X is no longer with us.

> >

> >He wanted the right to slam people on this list, so he emailed

me

> >privately 3 times and attempted to slam me.

> >

> >I love people like that.

> >

> >Too bad he's now gone.

> >

> >It could have been fun to have him participate in a polite,

 

loving, and

> >meaningful way.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> ><%

40>

,

> > " docspeed2001 "

> ><docspeed2001@> wrote:

> >

> > > > I'm truly surprised that anyone would even take the

time to

type out

> > > > an answer that is so rude to another person,

especially when

that

> > > > person has said clearly that they have a terrible

time using

their

> > > > hands/arms.

> > > >

> > > > Mr. X

> > >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I also recommend Seth/Jane Robert's book on " The Way Toward Health " . Many

mentions of visualization and attitude exercises. Some of the exercises and

their titles are listed at:

http://www.newworldview.com/library/Helfrich_P_Seth_Jane_Exercises.html#100

 

Imagination Game: imagine your worries literally floating away like

balloons [p.97]

Imagination Game: being in the Now, dealing with stress, poor health,

financial problems [p.183-4]

Imagination Game: taking a " better and better pill " [p.223-4]

Relaxation and Affirmation: " I am an excellent person " [p.275]

Imagination Game: visualize symptoms of illness being swept away as debris

[p.275-6]

Imagination Game: creative imagery to discover a solution to illness (inner

landscape, inner guide [p.276]

 

Focus on healing and what you desire (for example: full range of motion)

versus what you DO NOT want. And, in parting, I leave you with a quote from

this Seth book:

" Your ideas about your own health are even more important than those steps

you take to promote it. "

~ Session 3/27, Page 158

 

Many blessings,

MichelleH

 

 

I posted on alternatives that you could do - including visualizing and/or

watching someone else doing the exercise.

 

Please focus on what you can use versus distractions, including continued

claims of helplessness.

 

Many blessings,

Michelle

[Guest guest]

Dear Kathylee-

 

In the book, Donna talks about what to do if you cannot physically do the

exercises.

 

You visualize doing what you can't physically do, and do what you are capable

of.

 

Eventually, your capabilities will increase.

 

I have seen people in wheelchairs, with zero mobility gain

benefit from Energy Medicine.

 

Myasthenia Gravis is an autoimmune disorder, so the most impostant things to do

would be get yourself out of homolateral & unscrambled, and work on your Triple

Warmer Spleen balance.

 

Kelmie

 

, " quick_4444 "

<quick_4444 wrote:

>

> Jeanne amd others,

> So are you telling you do not believe I have a legitimate disease

> that limits me physically? That my myasthenia is not real? Now if

> this Mr X slammed people I am not for that but he asked that ypu

> understand my physical limitations. I am hoping that I can get the

> stronger treatments at Mayo Clinic like IVIG but in the meantime I

> was looking forward to learning more here as I wait for a better doc

> to come one board.

> I have poored though the book and watched the DVD and found one short

> form that allows for not lifting arms above head. I need more of

> these. It is physically impossible for me to do anything that

> requires arms above shoulders. I do not understand how this is a woe

> is me thing/dependent or other such labels. Honestly I am quite

> surprised at labels here being assigned so quickly.....thought this

> was a healing place?

> Kathylee