clinical depression

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My friend is clinically depressed--and has always been in thre modus of "poor me" anyhow, making a grand case for "poor me". Besides listening, I cant think of anything to do. The posts on "attitude" inspired me to ask-plainly you cant "cheer up" a depressed person, and you cant give them a pep talk. So what can you do?

 

Clayton

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As living with this condition most of my 50+ years i can tell you your friend can get even worse. And believe me I hate being on meidication and only went that route when herbs didn't work. Your friend needs professional help in dealing with his issues. Please understand I mean no insult but if I hadnt sought help I know I'd be worse off. I now lead a very happy normal life and your friend deserves nothing less.Blessed be Starlight Dragon.--- On Fri, 10/24/08, Clayton OClaerach <oclaerach wrote:

Clayton OClaerach <oclaerach Re: clinical depression Date: Friday, October 24, 2008, 12:10 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My friend is clinically depressed--and has always been in thre modus of "poor me" anyhow, making a grand case for "poor me". Besides listening, I cant think of anything to do. The posts on "attitude" inspired me to ask-plainly you cant "cheer up" a depressed person, and you cant give them a pep talk. So what can you do?

 

Clayton

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You can ask them, " What's going well? "

 

Offer to teach them some EM techniques like holding neurovasculars and the

homolateral cross crawl.

 

~Misha

 

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My friend is clinically depressed--and has always been in thre modus of

" poor me " anyhow, making a grand case for " poor me " . Besides listening, I

cant think of anything to do. The posts on " attitude " inspired me to

ask-plainly you cant " cheer up " a depressed person, and you cant give them a

pep talk. So what can you do?

 

Clayton

[Guest guest]

Identify behaviors that your friend has that you consider 'depressed',

as well as behaviors that you consider 'not depressed', or just

'neutral'. Also, identify some ways that you can be encouraging and

supportive in response to different behaviors.

 

Then you can engage in some positive behavioral training of your

friend. The most important parts are 1) respond minimally or not at

all to the undesirable (depressed) behavior, 2) give an _immediate_

positive response to the desired behavior, and 3) when starting out,

be prepared to give a positive response even for neutral behavior, if

only to put some extinction pressure on what's undesirable. (The book

" don't shoot the dog " has all of this information and much more, and

it's a great read.)

 

You may only succeed in training your friend to be free from

depression when they're around you, but maybe they'll be able to

generalize the skill beyond that.

 

--David

 

 

On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Clayton OClaerach <oclaerach wrote:

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> My friend is clinically depressed--and has always been in thre modus of " poor

me " anyhow, making a grand case for " poor me " . Besides listening, I cant think

of anything to do. The posts on " attitude " inspired me to ask-plainly you cant

" cheer up " a depressed person, and you cant give them a pep talk. So what can

you do?

>

> Clayton

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, Starlight

Dragon <starlightdragon11 wrote:

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> As living with this condition most of my 50+ years i can tell you

>your friend can get even worse. And believe me I hate being on

>meidication and only went that route when herbs didn't work. Your

>friend needs professional help in dealing with his issues. Please

>understand I mean no insult but if I hadnt sought help I know I'd be

>worse off. I now lead a very happy normal life and your friend

>deserves nothing less.Blessed be Starlight Dragon.

 

I can say only one thing about your post.

 

You are right on and 100% accurate, from where I'm standing.

 

Nice post.

 

For more information refer to my other post.

 

Sincerely,

John M. La Tourrette, PhD