More on energy testing NOT dumbed down!

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<pbalde wrote:

>

> Hi John

> Thank you for responding John. I understand what you mean: `Because

>there is no knowledge of the magnet and its polarity what the tester

>tests for is really energy'.

 

You are welcome Peter,

 

Yep.

 

It's a pretty simple method of 'convincing' someone who is a client,

which also matchs 'energy reality'.

 

> May I ask you how many true outcomes out of 10 (or 20, or 30) does

>it take before one may conclude that a tester really tests energy?

>Is it allowed and even valuable to ask this question?

 

When I first saw Donna do (1998?) it in Ashland and teach it I 'knew'

she had to be full of merida.

 

My convincer strategy is more than watching and hearing.

 

But when she worked with me, and energy tested me using ONE TINY

FINGER and I'm a macho martial artist who thinks/believes he is

superhuman and super strong, and my arm still fell no matter what I

did...

 

I knew something was up. She was able to easily and successfully do

it on me.

 

So I was convinced 'she' could do it.

 

Then she taught all of us how-to-do it and monkey see, monkey do...

 

With my fantastic EGO I believed I also could do it effectively right

away, which was NOT the case.

 

And I gave classes on energy testing and healing energies for a few

years before I noticed the difference between ego-associated and ego-

dissociated...

 

I needed much more experience before I could dissociate from my

loving fantastic ego-mind and experience the energy as it was and NOT

as I am.

 

I did give those particular and specific steps in a previous post.

 

There is something very important here. It's something that is called

attitude and intention. Since my intention was very focused to help

them, even though I may have better at energy testing than I really

thought I was, I was still GOOD ENOUGH to do very good work with

hundreds of people.

 

I normally work with very macho, determined and strong athletes, so I

do run into them thinking that the energy test is a test against them

and they'll do their damndest to treat it like they are lifting

weights and NOT energy testing, which is the reason Donna changed the

name of 'muscle testing' to 'energy testing'.

 

> Last question John: do you find it possible to control for the

>variables that you mentioned in an earlier post?

 

You play the frame of setting them up with your talk conditioning,

you get yourself into the right state and them into the right state.

 

(Look at how Steve Wells does his set-ups also on his DVD's)

 

Pretty soon you can easily 'read' through their physiology and

attitude their energies without energy testing.

 

So, unless you need to convince them of something needing work on, or

getting better than before, normally energy testing on my part is not

required.

 

Some times I'll tell them they are armored or that their energies are

frozen before we test them...then I'll show them how they can still

be energy tested by using a variation of the normal simplistic method.

 

There are many different methods Donna uses and teaches. There are 14

ET's that a practitioner can use on their subject...Donna originally

learned them in Touch for Health.

 

....there are many different ways of 'self-energy-testing'. Most do

not work for me...but these methods are very useful for me.

 

1. The thigh test.

2. The body sway (just notice how your body reacted)

3. The energy-drop and the energy-rising up and down the midline of

the body on the Central Meridian that some say does not exist.

 

Of course perception is projection is it not?

 

Hopefully this helps.

 

Go to David and Donna's books, Energy Medicine, The Promise of Energy

Psychology, and The Energy Psychology Interactive and DVD's. Fred

Gallo also has much out on these topics from an Energy Psychology

perspective.

 

John La Tourrette, PhD

 

> Greetings,

> Peter Baldé

 

> Van: Namens

> docspeed2001

> Verzonden: vrijdag 14 november 2008 2:48

> Aan:

> Onderwerp: Re: MUSCLE TESTING IS NOT FOR THE ELECTION

 

> <pbalde@> wrote:

 

> > >John wrote: As a 'convincer' we sometimes introduce a small

Radio-

> > >Shack magnet, and energy test them as we hold the north side of

> the > >magnet above their left ear. We again test with the south

side

> of

> > >the magnet above their left ear. They can then more easily

notice

> > >the differences in their muscle strength.

>

> > Peter: Would not an even better convincer be if a person gets

> >consistent muscle energy testing outcomes even he nor the testee

> >knows where and how the magnet was placed?

>

> Not necessarily Peter.

>

> Here's why.

>

> The magnets are NOT written on so there is no intention on either

> one, the testor or the testee about 'this is north' or 'this is the

> south' side.

>

> Neither of them 'know'.

>

> The intention is on the procedures I've already gone over.

>

> And the energy test is then an 'energy test' and not a 'lets hope'

or

> an 'I believe'.

>

> John M. La Tourrette, PhD