Guest guest Posted March 13, 2003 Report Share Posted March 13, 2003 I am always amused by the use of sugar pills and water as a placebo because of course sugar is one of the sacred herbs and had been used in medicine and spiritual healing for a very long time the Deva of the Sugar cane is among the chief manifestations of healing energies Attention and desire for wellness is the most important factor in healing and whatever the means used be it " real medicine " or psychological as in placebo does not account for as much as the openness to healing . I also have known more than one person who was unaffected by a " real " medicine that they though was only flavored water . without energy intention and spiritual there is no healing what ever physical means are used . and of course healing is not always the same as curing . Peggy Jentoft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2003 Report Share Posted March 13, 2003 rosequartz said: > and of course healing is not always the same as curing . > if only more people could understand this!! I often get asked, when people find out I have arthritis, and am a holistic healer - if it works so well, why do I still have arthritis. My standard reply is that holistic healing (in my case crystals & reiki) is not a cure, it allows me to be in control, and manage the symptoms. And before I had crystals & reiki in my life, I was using a wheelchair and walking stick on a daily basis. Now I use my stick only when I am really bad! that usually shuts them up! in frith crystal & reiki rainbows Hazel Angelstar Crystals - Crystal & Reiki healing; Jewellery & Gifts incorporating crystals & gemstones www.angelstar-crystals.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2003 Report Share Posted March 14, 2003 Hi Hazel, I research alternative therapies for treating chronic disorders. There is a cure, yes a cure, for arthritis. It takes time, but all traces of arthritis can be removed from the body within a period of between 6 and 18 months, depending on the severity. Obviously seriously damaged joints may still have to be replaced with artificial ones, but in the case of less serious damage, cartilage can regrow. Unfortunately, even when joints are replaced, arthritis will still attack other body parts usually ending up in the spine, which can't be replaced. There are no drugs involved, and people can generally stop all prescribed medication, over a period, or at least reduce it. If you wish, I will send you a copy of my report, or I will post it here if others are interested or both. It won't be till later next week if you want it. Love Michael (Frandoch). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2003 Report Share Posted March 14, 2003 Hi there Hazel, and others, No, I am not talking about remission. I'm talking about total cure, as measured by conventional hospital tests. And it doesn't seem to matter which form of arthritis is involved. However as you are already involved with Arthritis Care, I will put you on to one of the many sources I used in compiling the report. Two books, ISBN Nos below. written by a State Registered Nurse, who was crippled with both osteo- and rheumatoid arthritis as a young woman, actually during her nursing training She was told that she would never be able to lead a normal life, or complete her training. Conventional medicine failed her, so she started to research natural remedies. She developed a natural cure, and against all her doctors' predictions it was completely successful. There was no trace of the condition in her body. She set up a clinic in Kenilworth. As her fame spread, she realised that there were thousands and thousands of sufferers who could not visit her clinic, so she set up a system of treatment by post. It works. I have helped many people using similar methods. I am continually finding more information and will post anything I get that appears to be relevant. I know that conventional medicine offers little hope, and that conventionally trained doctors are very skeptical, but the results speak for themselves. Curing Arthritis The Drug Free Way Margaret Hills, SRN ISBN 0-85969-689-8 £6.99 Paperback Curing Arthritis More ways to a Drug Free Life Margaret Hills, SRN ISBN 0-85969-628-6 £6.99 Paperback Please try this. It works. Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2003 Report Share Posted March 14, 2003 Hi Pegsram You should have got a post at 13.00 sent to Hazel and others. If you want any more information, contact me through this site. Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2003 Report Share Posted March 14, 2003 Hi Michael > > I research alternative therapies for treating chronic disorders. > > There is a cure, yes a cure, for arthritis. & nbsp; It takes time, but all > traces of arthritis can be removed from the body within a period of > between 6 and 18 months, depending on the severity. > > Obviously seriously damaged joints may still have to be replaced with > artificial ones, but in the case of less serious damage, cartilage can > regrow. > > > There are no drugs involved, and people can generally stop all > prescribed medication, over a period, or at least reduce it. > > If you wish, I will send you a copy of my report, or I will post it here > if others are interested or both. It won't be till later next week if > you want it. I'd love a copy of the report thank you. Either off-list or here is fine. I am a volunteer for Arthritis Care, and in the UK anyways, there has been no 'cure' found as such ... certain types can be treated, or go into remission (which is what I assume your research does). The damage done will always leave a tendency for it to re-occur, in some form or other. Of course, with over 200 types of arthritis, what works for one, will not work for another ... But, on a personal level, it is something I'd be interested in, and possibly give a try. in frith crystal & reiki rainbows Hazel Angelstar Crystals - Crystal & Reiki healing; Jewellery & Gifts incorporating crystals & gemstones www.angelstar-crystals.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2003 Report Share Posted March 14, 2003 > If you wish, I will send you a copy of my report, or I will post > it here if others are interested or both. It won't be till later > next week if you want it. > > Love > > Michael & nbsp; (Frandoch). Hi Michael, i would like to see your report on arthritus too. pegsram. I have used a variety of supplements and products to relieve my arthritus. They help I am always interested to hear more. Thanks. Pegasus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2003 Report Share Posted March 14, 2003 Hi Michael I would be very interested in reading a copy of your report, please post it here. With love & light, Gloria ---- 14 March 2003 09:58:39 Re: [CrystalHW] Placebos Hi Hazel, I research alternative therapies for treating chronic disorders. There is a cure, yes a cure, for arthritis. It takes time, but all traces of arthritis can be removed from the body within a period of between 6 and 18 months, depending on the severity. Obviously seriously damaged joints may still have to be replaced with artificial ones, but in the case of less serious damage, cartilage can regrow. Unfortunately, even when joints are replaced, arthritis will still attack other body parts usually ending up in the spine, which can't be replaced. There are no drugs involved, and people can generally stop all prescribed medication, over a period, or at least reduce it. If you wish, I will send you a copy of my report, or I will post it here if others are interested or both. It won't be till later next week if you want it. Love Michael (Frandoch). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2003 Report Share Posted March 14, 2003 I appreciate more information about it.I have arthritis in my knees for years and i have many friends who suffer from arthritis.I believe people here will be interested in this subject due to they may have atleast a few person in their families or in their near neighbourhood. Thanks in advance ---------- >frandoch > >Re: [CrystalHW] Placebos >Cum, 14 Mar 2003 6:25 > > Hi Hazel, > > I research alternative therapies for treating chronic disorders. > > There is a cure, yes a cure, for arthritis. It takes time, but all traces of > arthritis can be removed from the body within a period of between 6 and 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2003 Report Share Posted March 14, 2003 In a message dated 03/13/2003 2:46:34 PM Pacific Standard Time, angelstar69 writes: > > I often get asked, when people find out I have arthritis, and am a > holistic healer - if it works so well, why do I still have arthritis. My > standard reply is that holistic healing (in my case crystals & reiki) is > not a cure, it allows me to be in control, and manage the symptoms Oh Hazel, what a great response. I have taken alot of harrassment because I am an advocate for alternatives and Naturopathic medicine. Never pushed it on anyone just said it was the only way for me. But get grief all of the time. Mercedes Mercedes Rose Herndon Reiki Master/Teacher, Artist, Photographer Designer & Creator of Silk Healing Scarves Owner of " Just for You " Custom Cards Coauthor & Publisher of: " Loving Thoughts for Gentle Hearts; v. 1 - Goals, Dreams & Affirmations " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2003 Report Share Posted March 14, 2003 I would love to read your report on alternative therapy for arthritis! Mary-Helena From the Blooming of a Lotus: “We are often exposed, if not first hand, then through films, reading material, and conversations, to violence, fear, hatred, meaningless infatuations. Society is full of violence and hatred, which accumulates in the collective consciousness. If in our daily lives we do not know now to abstain from damaging materials and attitudes, the seeds of violence, hatred and suffering in us will continue to be watered. We need to be aware of what we hear, see, and read every day… Do our associations and consumptions poison us?” -Thich Nhat Hanh U.S. National forest protections at risk! Send your objections by April 6: http://www.care2.com/go/z/4835 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2003 Report Share Posted March 14, 2003 Please post it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2003 Report Share Posted March 14, 2003 Please post it to the list, as I too, would be very interested in seeing this information. ~Susan > >If you wish, I will send you a copy of my report, or I will post >it here if >others are interested or both. It won't be till later next week if >you want >it. > >Love > >Michael (Frandoch). > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2003 Report Share Posted March 15, 2003 hi > > Oh Hazel, what a great response. > > I have taken alot of harrassment because I am an advocate for > alternatives and Naturopathic medicine. > > Never pushed it on anyone just said it was the only way for me. & nbsp; > But get grief all of the time. Yes, you either get the ones who think if it works for one person, it must be a miracle cure-all for everything!! or the other extreme of those who don't believe in it - and disregard it offhand!!! and every once in a while, along comes someone who is truly interested in trying, and approaches it with a truly open mind! in frith crystal & reiki rainbows Hazel Angelstar Crystals - Crystal & Reiki healing; Jewellery & Gifts incorporating crystals & gemstones www.angelstar-crystals.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2003 Report Share Posted March 15, 2003 Hi Michael > Hi there Hazel, and others, > > No, I am not talking about remission. & nbsp; I'm talking about total > cure, as measured by conventional hospital tests. & nbsp; And it doesn't > seem to matter which form of arthritis is involved. > > However as you are already involved with Arthritis Care, I will put you > on to one of the many sources I used in compiling the report. I will be honest, I am still feeling pretty sceptical about it being a total cure - but I am willing to approach this with an open mind, and learn more. If indeed, it works as well as you are claiming - it would be an amazing breakthrough in the treatment of arthritis for the future. I will certainly keep you & the group updated of any improvements in my health, should I decide to try this treatment ... and after all, even if it did not happen to provide a complete cure - I would not be losing out by trying. > > Two books, ISBN Nos below. written by a State Registered Nurse, who was > crippled with both osteo- and rheumatoid arthritis as a young woman, > actually during her nursing training & nbsp; She was told that she would > never be able to lead a normal life, or complete her training. > > Conventional medicine failed her, so she started to research natural > remedies. & nbsp; She developed a natural cure, and against all her > doctors' predictions it was completely successful. & nbsp; There was no > trace of the condition in her body. I shall definitely be making attempts to get these books - and look forward to reading them with interest when I do. > > > I know that conventional medicine offers little hope, and that > conventionally trained doctors are very skeptical, but the results > speak for themselves. many GP's are sceptical of anything complimentary to conventional medicine!! I think many see it as a threat to their position! in frith crystal & reiki rainbows Hazel Angelstar Crystals - Crystal & Reiki healing; Jewellery & Gifts incorporating crystals & gemstones www.angelstar-crystals.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2003 Report Share Posted March 16, 2003 Hi Hazel All I ask is your open mind. Michael. xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted March 16, 2003 Report Share Posted March 16, 2003 Hi all - sorry about the short message - blame AOhell. I have already posted where to find info, but will post my report, which is a summary of all I have beenb able to glean from amy sources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2003 Report Share Posted March 16, 2003 Hi all, Sorry again. I will post my report in full, even though I have posted where to find some of the information. Please bear with me - it will take a few days - bugs in system Michael (Frandoch) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2003 Report Share Posted April 13, 2003 It has been quite a time we had correspondance about cure for arthritis.I wonder if i did not notice the information about it.Will you please resend it if you have already wrote.If you did not tell about cure,i am looking forward to hearing from you about the cure for arthritis. Thanks in advance, Love,Lale >> frandoch >> >> Re: [CrystalHW] Placebos >> Cum, 14 Mar 2003 6:25 >> > >> Hi Hazel, >> >> I research alternative therapies for treating chronic disorders. >> >> There is a cure, yes a cure, for arthritis. It takes time, but all traces of >> arthritis can be removed from the body within a period of between 6 and 18 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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