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Hello to all of you in pain - and to those who aren't!!!

Great big warm cocoon of hugs coming your way.

You are so brave sharing your pain and I really hope life smooths out a

little for the future.

 

Love, Light & Laughter ~ Diane xx

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Chewing coca and coca tea is only medicinal if one is in high

altitudes. It actually has the sensation of bringing one down to earth

in the thin air. It's other benefit is that it fills in some vital

enzymes which complete some proteins among historically malnourished

populations. Chickens, for example, can't be raised in such altitudes

and other cheap complete protein sources are scarce often times.

 

doug

 

 

 

On Aug 11, 2004, at 3:44 AM,

Chinese Medicine wrote:

 

>

> Message: 14

> Wed, 11 Aug 2004 01:39:30 -0000

> " heylaurag " <heylaurag

> Re: Coca Cola

>

> My brother chews coca leaves addictively. His wife is from Bolivia,

> so he has spent a lot of time there and has " connections " . He was in

> a near-fatal motorcycle accident a few years ago...then got

> testicular cancer...and now lives with a number of disabilities and

> $1000 worth of pain meds a month (he lives too far away for me to

> treat him, which is really frustrating). He says that the leaves

> give him energy and help his digestion. His use seems addictive to

> me, so its hard for me to think its a good thing. I think its

> dangerous to take any one herb ongoing for a long time, eg: if you

> take ginseng alone for too long you will build up heat and

> stagnation. But on the other hand, as his options go, perhaps its

> not so bad.

>

> I find coke and coffee to be very depleting, and people always feel

> so much better once they've quit for awhile. It seems to be very hard

> on the kidney energy. But people say that green tea is good for you,

> and it has caffience in it---so perhaps its not the caffiene that is

> a problem. Personally I wouldn't drink anything that is potentially

> addictive on a daily basis if I could avoid it.

>

> Laura

>

>

 

 

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The only medicinal use I can think of for the non diet version of Coca Cola

is that it is a brilliant hangover cure!!!! Not that I would of course

recommend getting drunk in the first place. (grin).

 

Helene

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<Chinese Medicine >

<Chinese Medicine >

Wednesday, August 11, 2004 11:44 AM

Digest Number 602

 

 

 

There are 20 messages in this issue.

 

Topics in this digest:

 

1. Re: Hara Diagnosis: Reflections on the Sea

" Rich " <rfinkelstein

2. Referral in London

" Pat Ethridge " <pat.ethridge

3. Re: Re: Soy Milk

" " <zrosenbe

4. Re: Coca Cola

" " <zrosenbe

5. Re: Coca Cola

" " <zrosenbe

6. Re: Re: Coca Cola

" " <zrosenbe

7. Re: Re: Coca Cola

" Michael Eidson " <mdeidson

8. Re: Re: Ghost Point Treatment

" guigen_qigong " <guigen_qigong

9. Re: Fatal dangers of chemo and Radiation

" guigen_qigong " <guigen_qigong

10. Re: Qi Emission

yateslac

11. Re: Qi Emission

" Rich " <rfinkelstein

12. Re: Qi Gong in Seattle

" heylaurag " <heylaurag

13. Re: Fatal dangers of alternative 'cancer cures' on the web

Musiclear

14. Re: Coca Cola

" heylaurag " <heylaurag

15. Re: Hara Diagnosis: Reflections on the Sea

" homi kaikobad " <aryaone

16. Re: Alternative Cancer treatments

John Garbarini <johnlg_2000

17. Re: Fusion in Spine

" guigen_qigong " <guigen_qigong

18. RE: Digest Number 601

" Dr. Phranque " <wrighttothepoint

19. Revisiting TCM / CTM / CCM etc.

<

20. Re: Referral in London

" stephen macallan " <stephenmacallan

 

 

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Message: 1

Tue, 10 Aug 2004 20:22:49 -0000

" Rich " <rfinkelstein

Re: Hara Diagnosis: Reflections on the Sea

 

Hi Hugo,

 

There are lots of interesting ideas in this book oriented toward

palpation techniques as they relate to the Hara and other channels in

the body, e.g. extraordinary vessels. I would highly recommend the

book if you are interested in perspectives that are not found in the

standard TCM texts. There is a great chapter on " Source Theory " ,

mostly from CM classics. For me, it is a breath of fresh air - though

 

I still walk away from the book feeling a bit uncomfortable with the

concept of diagnosis. Who is really be diagnosed during the process of

" diagnosis " - the client/patient or the doctor? :-) I find that

diagnoses are as revealing about one as they are about the other. I

think this question, which references all versions of doctor/patient

relationships needs to be addressed more - but this may happen only in

the distant future. For now, this is a very interesting book from the

perspective of viewing health and practice in a different light -

which I think is really of great value, especially if one has only

been exposed to the TCM viewpoint.

 

Regards,

Rich

 

Chinese Medicine , Hugo Ramiro

<subincor> wrote:

> Anybody have input on this book? Any similar works

> specifically on CM? (authors Kiiko Matsumoto, Stephen

> Birch)

>

>

> Thanks for any insight.

>

> Hugo

>

>

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Message: 2

Tue, 10 Aug 2004 18:18:31 -0400

" Pat Ethridge " <pat.ethridge

Referral in London

 

For a female patient undergoing chemo, please recommend a good

herbalist/acupuncturist in the Dulwich area. Thanks.

 

Pat

 

 

 

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Message: 3

Tue, 10 Aug 2004 15:39:51 -0700

" " <zrosenbe

Re: Re: Soy Milk

 

I think your teacher was kidding :)

 

 

On Aug 10, 2004, at 12:10 AM, Pete Theisen wrote:

 

> Hi Dermot!

>

> Ha Ha! But sometimes it tastes good!

>

> My teacher used to say CocaCola tonifys spleen, but I think it tonifys

> qi. <g>

 

 

 

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Message: 4

Tue, 10 Aug 2004 15:41:49 -0700

" " <zrosenbe

Re: Coca Cola

 

Clearly this is false.

 

In Su Wen, it says that too much of a particular flavor (which can be

interpreted as a very strong, concentrated flavor) has the opposite

effect, i.e. draining or weakening the viscera instead of supplementing

it. This is nowhere more true than with refined sugar products,

consumed in excess. There is nothing good that can be said about coca

cola or other refined sweets. People can rationalize anything.

 

 

On Aug 10, 2004, at 2:29 AM, wrote:

 

> Is CocaCola a good thing or bad thing?

>

> It was commonly used for pregnant women to help them with gas. I've

> used it alot for a bad stomach whilst on my travels around Asia.

> However, many say its bad and it can't even be given to transplant

> patients as the doctors don't know what's in it. So....but in answer

> to Pete, yes i think it tonifies the Spleen. Any other comments?

>

> Attilio

>

> Pete Theisen <petet@a...> wrote:

>> My teacher used to say CocaCola tonifys spleen, but I think it

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