Guest guest Posted July 4, 2003 Report Share Posted July 4, 2003 Guides and Companions Please be aware that most spiritual guidance is given indirectly , rather than having angels appear in your living room or other dramatic event it is more likely that guidance will arive in a more mundane way a book may fall open to a relavent page you may overhear a phrase with meaning a series of " coincidences " may lead you to a realization. There are also many spirits beings and thought forms who may contact you in addition to your own mind and your higher self. You could be aware of inner selves ,Soul voice, guiding Angels and Deva. as well as spirits animals and other entities. Many people have questions about how you tell a positive spiritual guide from a negative entity and from your own imagination or the telepathic background noise of other peoples thoughts. etc. it may be difficult first to discern the difference . Generally if you have doubt about a spirit guide send the entity to the light, a true and positive being will not object will leave and return a non beneficial may protest but will still leave but not return . I'm not sure of the source for the list below but agree with them " Lesser Mind , The Voice of Ego and negative entities Personality Level, flatters commands, demands, tests, chooses for you, imprisons, promotes dependency intrudes pushes excludes is status oriented insists on obedience often claims ultimate authority Greater Mind, The Voice of Spirit, Soul Level, informs, suggests, guides nudges, leaves choice to you, empowers, promotes independence .. respects ,supports, includes, is free and open , encourages growth and development recognizes a greater power, or God. " Valid guidance and messengers usually stay on topic or in a general range of subject and communicate about life purpose and world mission rather than about power . It usually has a loving and encouraging quality rather than a hostile or discouraging quality .Good guidance is usually about now rather than some distant future . it empowers you strenghthens you and supports you. I tis in harmony with you own inner knowing and abilities it rings true ( even though some information may be startling . In time you will come to know guides ,angels elementals and companions you can trust and value . Some spirits even " Ascended Masters " etc. are very eager to forward their agenda and their guidance may not always truly be for your highest good Recheck often rather than assume that what your getting is from your regular contacts . What you hear or sense depends very much on the clearness of your channel , your level of inner knowing and things like the knowledge and vocabulary you have to offer spirit beings . How well you take dictation can be important too . Sometimes during a formal " channel " information comes in very fast and is being translated to words from images and feelings it would be easy to miss a word or mis interpret an image. The difference between " there will be war " and " there will not be war " is very slight but makes a big difference in meaning . In my experience the Good stuff is easy to understand, some concepts may be difficult or impossible to express in words but the more high blown, high flown, psuedo scientific or jargon filled, channeled info is the less likely it is to be valid . Another symptom of valid channeled information is that it holds up over time and does not need a lot of editing to be intelligible. Why would an Angel or great spiritual teacher need to bs and brag or try to impress you anyway. ? True guides are very loving and compassionate and while they are sometimes firm or hold up a mirror to reveal a blind spot they do not lie , threaten or abuse, True and good guides do not isolate people from society . Most messages are subtle, pay attention to everything within and outside. Actual physical appairts are rather rare but the presence of your companion angel and your true guides is as constant as appropriate and energy information and protections are there for you I really truly reccomend meeting your companion or Solar angel and working on the connection with your high self when you are working in this wonderful harmony the only energetic dangers you will face are those where it is essential that you deal with it most often to learn that you can deal with it and dicern the value from the trash. Peggy Jentoft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2003 Report Share Posted July 4, 2003 Hi Peggy, What you've posted does sound like excellent advice! I do have a question, though...: > " Rosequartz " <rosequartz > ><snip> >. . .I'm not sure of the source for the list below but agree with them <snip> >. . . Some spirits even " Ascended Masters " etc. are very eager to forward >their >agenda and their guidance may not always truly be for your highest good >Recheck often rather than assume that what your getting is from your >regular contacts . . . . > ><snip> Do you think this source is saying that Ascended Masters cannot always be trusted...? (Or, since they have put " Ascended Masters " in quotation marks, do you think they are implying that sometimes spirits are _pretending_ to be real Ascended Masters -- ?) Quite honestly, we've always received excellent guidance from our Ascended Masters, and we certainly do trust them. love and blessings, Linda and John G " The distinction between past, present and future is only an illusion, even if a stubborn one. " -- Albert Einstein -- _______________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2003 Report Share Posted July 4, 2003 > What you've posted does sound like excellent advice! I do have a question, > though...: > > > " Rosequartz " <rosequartz > > > ><snip> > > >. . .I'm not sure of the source for the list below but agree with them > <snip> > >. . . Some spirits even " Ascended Masters " etc. are very eager to forward > >their > >agenda and their guidance may not always truly be for your highest good > >Recheck often rather than assume that what your getting is from your > >regular contacts . . . . > have put " Ascended Masters " in quotation marks, do you think they are implying that sometimes spirits are _pretending_ to be real Ascended Masters -- ?) >Quite honestly, we've always received excellent guidance from our Ascended >Masters, and we certainly do trust them. That's after the quoted selection and is my own words and yes sometimes what is received purportedly from ascended masters is not actually from ascended masters , and some Ascended Masters IMO are misleading or are providing diversions rather than solid true guidance and information . Or often its that the reception is unclear. and there recipient interferes with the message in some way. I probably should revise that passage if I use it again .I also have gotten excellent advise and information and energy work systems from Ascended Masters but if you read a large body of channeled materials attributed to Ascended Masters you will find quite a bit that is clearly bogus or incorrectly reported I have also encountered folks who have channeled some mighty strange messages I have also encountered some folks who start out delivering excellent and clear material who definitely somewhere along the line start picking up inaccurate and even dangerous or destructive guidance I'm saying to not turn off you garbage detectors just because you have gotten solid info in the Past . and yes there are a few entities identified as Ascended Masters whose material does not always ring true to me and some of it is just the old " that's not what Koothumi said to me! " reaction though actually it's blackberry spirit who seems to be coming from completely different places depending on who their talking to or who is listening. I do think that the Galactic Avatar commander lightship thing has gone off track and should not be taken completely seriously ( or should that be Siriusly?) I'm not saying to discard or discount any or all of the Ascended Master material etc but just to use your inner knowing and consider that it might not all be gold . and some material is metaphorical or symbolic rather than mundane factual. Peggy Jentoft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2003 Report Share Posted July 5, 2003 > " Rosequartz " <rosequartz >Fri, 4 Jul 2003 09:53:24 -0700 ><snip> >. . . I also have gotten >excellent advise and information and energy work systems from Ascended >Masters but if you read a large body of channeled materials attributed to >Ascended Masters you will find quite a bit that is clearly bogus or >incorrectly reported I have also encountered folks who have channeled some >mighty strange messages . . . <snip> > I'm not saying to discard or discount any or all of the >Ascended Master material etc but just to use your inner knowing and >consider that it might not all be gold . >and some material is metaphorical or symbolic rather than mundane >factual.> Hi Peggy, Thanks for your response. I haven't read very much of the channeled materials at all. The Ascended Masters we are somewhat familiar with are the more well-known ones, such as St. Germain. But with everything, I try to trust my intuition and instincts first and foremost, and use discernment before becoming involved with anything. Ie., if it doesn't resonate well with us, or seems coercive, manipulative, destructive -- forget it. And if we start seeing and sensing things that don't feel quite right, that's it for us. BTW, your post last week re Ascension was very well done, IMO (and not a " semi-rant " , as you put it, at all. love and blessings, Linda and John G " The distinction between past, present and future is only an illusion, even if a stubborn one. " -- Albert Einstein -- _______________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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