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I stumbles on a little that I had on vogal crystals and an old post or

two from a couple of years back with excepts from some brochures

I have some slight experience with them have seen and held quite a few

and gotten a mini treatment and have a small sort of 12 sided " vogal

like " wand which I like better than the real Vogals it has a rounded

base end rather than the pyramid.

I cant find my notes about the machine that can be used for treatments

but I guess that is what has worked with

that uses a chakra set of vogals and pulsing lights I've seen it in

action but could not afford a treatment the ambient energy in the

surrounding are was very intense while it was on.

The charged wands do have an intense energy and seem able to do major

work the uncharged ones are really de energized and neutral.

 

There is a lot of controversy about the vogal wands and people who sell

them tend to argue about whether M.Vogal used natural or synthetic

quartz etc. did find a couple of files on the wands here is one about

The basic tenets of the Vogal wand taken from a pamphlet

 

" There are fundamental basics about quartz crystals discovered by

Dr.Marcel Vogel in his years of research. These are:

 

Crystals have no intrinsic power. They are very sensitive and precise

tools that will accumulate a charge from an individual using the

crystal, amplify that charge and transmit it through the crystal to a

designated destination via breath and intent. In this case the crystal

functions as a bio-energetic template, transducer and transmitter.

A crystal acts as an amplifier of the bio-energetic fields surrounding

the body of an individual. These fields are generally controlled by breath.

The energy fields that are stored in the body of a crystal will fit the

structure of water. When a charged crystal is directed into a body of

water, a charge transfer takes place, causing a significant number of

the water molecules to become structured, developing a liquid crystal

state at room temperature. There is a measurable change in the hydrogen

bonding as observed by infra-red and ultra-violet spectro-photometry.

There is also a change in the electrical conductivity of the water, the

surface tension, pH, and freezing point.

The charge accumulated in a crystal can be store and transferred to a)

another crystal, b) water (or any other fluid, or c) another person

 

SELECTING, CLEARING, AND CHARGING A CRYSTAL

 

Frequently we will have a crystal specifically prepared for an

individual. The energy filed of the person taking custody of the crystal

is considered in the faceting process and this becomes part of the

crystal's frequency. In the past all crystals were created this way and

we continue this practice for those individuals wanted a crystal

prepared especially for them and the work in which they are engaged. We

have discovered since that when presented with a variety of Vogel-cut®

crystals, an individual will intuitively select one that best fits their

energy filed. When possible we confirm this using the Omega 5.

 

The internal environment of the crystal is not as important as some

might think. Although optical quality and clarity is beautiful and

offers some unquestionable benefits it is not necessarily a primary

consideration in selecting a crystal. Clear crystals have been observed

to become cloudy and cloudy crystals have been observed to become clear

through use.

 

The inclusions within a crystal that some people find distasteful are

gateways to the many distant realms of imagination for others. One must

choose according to one's proclivities as well as so called objective

criteria. It is important that there not be fractures or cracks in the

crystal and the tips be intact. These would cause a distortion in the

energetic storage and transmission capabilities of the crystal.

 

( one could use the crystal repair functions from the Crystal Deva

Empowerments to restore the crystal energy PJ)

 

What of the number of sides available on the Vogel crystal®?

 

As more sides are added the energetic spin within a crystal has the

potential of being faster or more intense. The intensity of spin will

allow the energy emitted from the crystal to have a greater or lesser

degree of penetration through the various subtle bodies of a person. A

four sided crystal is useful for physical aches and pains, a six sided

crystal will perform in much the same way but is able to penetrate more

deeply into the energetic bodies allowing one to work more easily in the

emotional aspect of the field. The eight sided crystal allows one to

remove multiple layers of patterning which may not be accessed by the

four or six sided crystal. It is useful to release deep shock and

trauma, and releasing patterning that is at a soul level of

consciousness. All of this, of course, is contingent upon the capability

of the user.

 

In common use at this time are twelve sided healing crystals.

Crystals with a greater number of sides may have special applications

for various individuals, but it must be understood that more is not

necessarily better. It is different and useful depending upon the need

and intent. Sometimes a weaker field can have a more profound effect.

The needs of the client must be considered.

 

Often people think that if they have a crystal with a very high

number of sides, this is better. Not necessarily so. Sometimes these

choices are made from a limited ego or personality perspective without

any consideration as to use. Why do you choose to use a crystal in a

given situation? Why use a crystal at all? What is your intent?

Frequently we are not aware of our specific intent. When dealing with

the amplified and cohered forces that can be produced using a Vogel-cut®

crystal, awareness of our intent is very important. One intent of our

teaching work at Lifestream Associates is to provide information with

which informed decisions and choices can be made.

 

When you first acquire any crystal it needs to be cleared of any

influences that might be harmful or limiting to you. Over years of

research two basic methods have been found to be effective in clearing a

crystal. The first is to use a de-magnetizer. These are usually

available from Radio Shack. The field generated by this instrument will

strip a crystal completely. A preferable method is to use your own

breath and consciousness.

 

To release or clear the energies in a crystal, hold the tips of the

crystal between the thumb and second finger of your dominant hand. With

you non-dominant hand hold opposing sides on the body of the crystal.

Slowly breathe in with the thought to clear the crystal of any harmful

or limiting influences. When the breath is full inhaled, hold for one or

two seconds and then forcefully exhale the breath in a short burst or

pulse. The process of pulsing is somewhat like sneezing or a single

round of the yogic breath of fire or kabalabathi.

 

Repeat this process for each pair or faces on the body of the

crystal.

 

When a crystal is too large to hold in your hand, simply hold an

image of the crystal in your mind's eye, breathe in with the intent to

clear it and pulse the breath as described above. This can be done over

any distance although a certain degree of mastery and confidence is

required. Slowly, slowly one can release conventional ideas of time and

space.

 

To charge your crystal, hold it in your dominant hand and roll or

rotate it clockwise (to the right) while at the same time squeezing each

of the facets of the body of the crystal. In a short time the surface of

the crystal will begin to feel somewhat sticky. This is a superficial

piezo-electric charge build up.

 

When this primary charge has been induced, hold the crystal with

your index finger over the tip, if possible. Have the more acute angled

tip pointing away from you. Draw in the breath with the intent of

filling the crystal with all the Love in your Heart and pulse the

breath. The pulsing action of the breath transfers the energy into the

crystal and a fragment of consciousness occupies the lattice space

within the crystal. The basic carrier wave and cohering factor of your

consciousness is Love. Once this is done, another more specific

frequency can be added onto the basic carrier wave.

------

 

Any way that is what I have on hand at the moment .

Personally I prefer natural wands the Vogal wands I've met have been a

bit much sometimes

and as one who runs energy and works with Deva the processes seem rather

more complex than necessary too But I do have one absolutely lovely

shaped wand that while not exactly a vogal is a fantastic healing wand.

 

Peggy

 

Peggy Jentoft

[Guest guest]

Hi Peggy

 

Thank you so much for this. Can I ask.... what do you actually do with

these and with other wands.

 

I have seen wands used in various ways and I am interested in learning other

people's ways.

 

Thank you

 

BB

 

Heather

 

P.S. would it be ok if I pass this post onto another group? It is just a

small group of 6 members who all studied the crystal healing course

together.

 

 

 

>

> Any way that is what I have on hand at the moment .

> Personally I prefer natural wands the Vogal wands I've met have been a

> bit much sometimes

> and as one who runs energy and works with Deva the processes seem rather

> more complex than necessary too But I do have one absolutely lovely

> shaped wand that while not exactly a vogal is a fantastic healing wand.

>

> Peggy

>

> Peggy Jentoft

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Thank you, Peggy.

 

This is the material that was handed out to us. Also, we didn't

charge for the treatment as we were all learning. Later, the

treatment was only $50. I hear that some charge well over $100 but I

always let people pay what they could and if they couldn't then I

treated them anyway. I guess that's why I never made any money

but I was never in it for the money and still don't charge for

anything I do. I do like an exchange because it does promote balance

and so I often tell clients to donate what they can or bring me

candles, or incense or something. I've always received what I needed

from the Universe. I'm a terrible business person! I'm not saying

that you shouldn't charge for your services. A lot of healers and

psychics make their living this way and we all have to eat and put a

roof over our heads. But I do believe that everyone should have the

chance of receiving treatments. Just my humble 2 cents.

 

Love and light,

 

 

, rosequartz

<rosequartz@c...> wrote:

> I stumbles on a little that I had on vogal crystals and an old

post or

> two from a couple of years back with excepts from some brochures

> I have some slight experience with them have seen and held quite a

few

> and gotten a mini treatment and have a small sort of 12

sided " vogal

> like " wand which I like better than the real Vogals it has a

rounded

> base end rather than the pyramid.

> I cant find my notes about the machine that can be used for

treatments

> but I guess that is what has worked with

> that uses a chakra set of vogals and pulsing lights I've seen it in

> action but could not afford a treatment the ambient energy in the

> surrounding are was very intense while it was on.

> The charged wands do have an intense energy and seem able to do

major

> work the uncharged ones are really de energized and neutral.

>

> There is a lot of controversy about the vogal wands and people who

sell

> them tend to argue about whether M.Vogal used natural or synthetic

> quartz etc. did find a couple of files on the wands here is one

about

> The basic tenets of the Vogal wand taken from a pamphlet

>

> " There are fundamental basics about quartz crystals discovered by

> Dr.Marcel Vogel in his years of research. These are:

>

> Crystals have no intrinsic power. They are very sensitive and

precise

> tools that will accumulate a charge from an individual using the

> crystal, amplify that charge and transmit it through the crystal to

a

> designated destination via breath and intent. In this case the

crystal

> functions as a bio-energetic template, transducer and transmitter.

> A crystal acts as an amplifier of the bio-energetic fields

surrounding

> the body of an individual. These fields are generally controlled by

breath.

> The energy fields that are stored in the body of a crystal will fit

the

> structure of water. When a charged crystal is directed into a body

of

> water, a charge transfer takes place, causing a significant number

of

> the water molecules to become structured, developing a liquid

crystal

> state at room temperature. There is a measurable change in the

hydrogen

> bonding as observed by infra-red and ultra-violet spectro-

photometry.

> There is also a change in the electrical conductivity of the water,

the

> surface tension, pH, and freezing point.

> The charge accumulated in a crystal can be store and transferred to

a)

> another crystal, b) water (or any other fluid, or c) another person

>

> SELECTING, CLEARING, AND CHARGING A CRYSTAL

>

> Frequently we will have a crystal specifically prepared for an

> individual. The energy filed of the person taking custody of the

crystal

> is considered in the faceting process and this becomes part of the

> crystal's frequency. In the past all crystals were created this way

and

> we continue this practice for those individuals wanted a crystal

> prepared especially for them and the work in which they are

engaged. We

> have discovered since that when presented with a variety of Vogel-

cut®

> crystals, an individual will intuitively select one that best fits

their

> energy filed. When possible we confirm this using the Omega 5.

>

> The internal environment of the crystal is not as important as some

> might think. Although optical quality and clarity is beautiful and

> offers some unquestionable benefits it is not necessarily a primary

> consideration in selecting a crystal. Clear crystals have been

observed

> to become cloudy and cloudy crystals have been observed to become

clear

> through use.

>

> The inclusions within a crystal that some people find distasteful

are

> gateways to the many distant realms of imagination for others. One

must

> choose according to one's proclivities as well as so called

objective

> criteria. It is important that there not be fractures or cracks in

the

> crystal and the tips be intact. These would cause a distortion in

the

> energetic storage and transmission capabilities of the crystal.

>

> ( one could use the crystal repair functions from the Crystal Deva

> Empowerments to restore the crystal energy PJ)

>

> What of the number of sides available on the Vogel crystal®?

>

> As more sides are added the energetic spin within a crystal has the

> potential of being faster or more intense. The intensity of spin

will

> allow the energy emitted from the crystal to have a greater or

lesser

> degree of penetration through the various subtle bodies of a

person. A

> four sided crystal is useful for physical aches and pains, a six

sided

> crystal will perform in much the same way but is able to penetrate

more

> deeply into the energetic bodies allowing one to work more easily

in the

> emotional aspect of the field. The eight sided crystal allows one to

> remove multiple layers of patterning which may not be accessed by

the

> four or six sided crystal. It is useful to release deep shock and

> trauma, and releasing patterning that is at a soul level of

> consciousness. All of this, of course, is contingent upon the

capability

> of the user.

>

> In common use at this time are twelve sided healing crystals.

> Crystals with a greater number of sides may have special

applications

> for various individuals, but it must be understood that more is not

> necessarily better. It is different and useful depending upon the

need

> and intent. Sometimes a weaker field can have a more profound

effect.

> The needs of the client must be considered.

>

> Often people think that if they have a crystal with a very high

> number of sides, this is better. Not necessarily so. Sometimes these

> choices are made from a limited ego or personality perspective

without

> any consideration as to use. Why do you choose to use a crystal in a

> given situation? Why use a crystal at all? What is your intent?

> Frequently we are not aware of our specific intent. When dealing

with

> the amplified and cohered forces that can be produced using a Vogel-

cut®

> crystal, awareness of our intent is very important. One intent of

our

> teaching work at Lifestream Associates is to provide information

with

> which informed decisions and choices can be made.

>

> When you first acquire any crystal it needs to be cleared of any

> influences that might be harmful or limiting to you. Over years of

> research two basic methods have been found to be effective in

clearing a

> crystal. The first is to use a de-magnetizer. These are usually

> available from Radio Shack. The field generated by this instrument

will

> strip a crystal completely. A preferable method is to use your own

> breath and consciousness.

>

> To release or clear the energies in a crystal, hold the tips of the

> crystal between the thumb and second finger of your dominant hand.

With

> you non-dominant hand hold opposing sides on the body of the

crystal.

> Slowly breathe in with the thought to clear the crystal of any

harmful

> or limiting influences. When the breath is full inhaled, hold for

one or

> two seconds and then forcefully exhale the breath in a short burst

or

> pulse. The process of pulsing is somewhat like sneezing or a single

> round of the yogic breath of fire or kabalabathi.

>

> Repeat this process for each pair or faces on the body of the

> crystal.

>

> When a crystal is too large to hold in your hand, simply hold an

> image of the crystal in your mind's eye, breathe in with the intent

to

> clear it and pulse the breath as described above. This can be done

over

> any distance although a certain degree of mastery and confidence is

> required. Slowly, slowly one can release conventional ideas of time

and

> space.

>

> To charge your crystal, hold it in your dominant hand and roll or

> rotate it clockwise (to the right) while at the same time squeezing

each

> of the facets of the body of the crystal. In a short time the

surface of

> the crystal will begin to feel somewhat sticky. This is a

superficial

> piezo-electric charge build up.

>

> When this primary charge has been induced, hold the crystal with

> your index finger over the tip, if possible. Have the more acute

angled

> tip pointing away from you. Draw in the breath with the intent of

> filling the crystal with all the Love in your Heart and pulse the

> breath. The pulsing action of the breath transfers the energy into

the

> crystal and a fragment of consciousness occupies the lattice space

> within the crystal. The basic carrier wave and cohering factor of

your

> consciousness is Love. Once this is done, another more specific

> frequency can be added onto the basic carrier wave.

> --

----

>

> Any way that is what I have on hand at the moment .

> Personally I prefer natural wands the Vogal wands I've met have

been a

> bit much sometimes

> and as one who runs energy and works with Deva the processes seem

rather

> more complex than necessary too But I do have one absolutely lovely

> shaped wand that while not exactly a vogal is a fantastic

healing wand.

>

> Peggy

>

> Peggy Jentoft

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I would be interested how can I take an advanced crystal healing class(BSY).

Thank you so much, Alina

 

Heather Pinfold <evuur wrote:

Hi Peggy

 

Thank you so much for this. Can I ask.... what do you actually do with

these and with other wands.

 

I have seen wands used in various ways and I am interested in learning other

people's ways.

 

Thank you

 

BB

 

Heather

 

P.S. would it be ok if I pass this post onto another group? It is just a

small group of 6 members who all studied the crystal healing course

together.

 

 

 

>

> Any way that is what I have on hand at the moment .

> Personally I prefer natural wands the Vogal wands I've met have been a

> bit much sometimes

> and as one who runs energy and works with Deva the processes seem rather

> more complex than necessary too But I do have one absolutely lovely

> shaped wand that while not exactly a vogal is a fantastic healing wand.

>

> Peggy

>

> Peggy Jentoft

>

>

>

files are online at Http://www.solarraven.com/crystal-entry.html

> files, photos, and message archives can be found At:

>

> , photos, and message archives can be found At:

>

>

>

>