Guest guest Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 dt.11.2.2004 this is an awakening call for all energy healers. the subject of negative entities, energies, forces,devils has found much less attention and who are responsible for most of the pitfalls in healing. problems / diseases come again & again. liz is moderator of energyclear group and is a professional energy clearer. she speaks from the strength of her years of experience. i have also first hand experience of them . they can negate the healing. these can harm reiki / other healing senders until they are protected well. there are 12 grades of devils on which i may share notes shortly. in this at least 5 grades are more stronger than 2nd degree reiki channel. when you give reiki they can know from where that is coming. since some of their junior colleagues are destroyed, they take revenge. because of the gaps, they easily go out when any energy healing is given and when there is no risk they come back. this is the biggest reason why healing fail and diseases / problem re-occur. even you yourself sometimes may not heal after years of giving reiki to yourself as also by others. biggest alert needed is for reiki practioners. i feel god never intended that every tom, dick, harry should become its channel of love which most of them lack themselves. it appears to have been commercialised and have been treated so easily. it is not. i have not met much reiki healers who can say with strength that they have been healed at all levels. i am not against people giving reiki to needy persons. but until one is protected appropriately it will be dangerous to take it so easy. you may be inviting trouble for yourself which many of them are expressing in the groups forums but may not be aware of the real danger. check your statistics of really healed people & you yourself which will give you idea. d.k.kothari - d.k.kothari Energyclear Saturday, February 07, 2004 7:04 PM Re: [Energyclear] Negative Attachments. 7.2.2004 you have beautifully written on the subject. i have gone though your articles in the files section. i am having first hand knowledge about them. i have seen for the first time such clear indication about them. thanks a lot. i hope people use it. i would like to add - as per my personal experience - that they mainly control para thalmus as also action co-ordinating centre so that your thinking and actions are controlled by them. you are very correct that when you give reiki , you may be attacked also. i give a slight expansion. when you give reiki, lower vibrational entities are sometimes destroyed while normal reiki does not touch higher ones. they come to know where from reiki is coming and then attack that person. i have been attacked and you come to know of this source very late. today reiki appears to be commercialised. everybody thinks he can give reiki without knowing tht he may be attacked. problems come in his/her life but which he attributes to karma which is not the case. it may be interesting for you to know that i had been under attack from beings of light sent by a holy man. while the holy man forgave, these entities find comfort here and refuse to go. all my mantras etc have had no effect. however, they also seem fed up now as with increasing power of mantrs, so many of them have been destroyed and now want to leave. you are doing at lot of good energy work. i feel you will be doing all the reiki healers very good if you further echo your view points on this danger so that people send reiki with knowledge. it has just become fashionable to send reiki to anyone. i had sent you 2 writeups on reiki problems. would yu like to put it in files section so that others cn read. d.k.kothari - Liz Prince Energyclear Saturday, February 07, 2004 5:14 PM [Energyclear] Negative Attachments. Hi All, It's interesting to read about people's problems with clearing negative energies. In mine and Tammie's experience demons that are attacking but not attached are easy to remove, by sending them away. All negative entities are bound by universal law and so must do what you order them to do, but you must be strong and forceful and have no fear. Entities thrive on fear it gives them power. The entities which seem to 'hide' or leave temporarily cannot be removed by ordering them away. As these entities attach into your chakras, the crown first, they must be 'corded' that is have the actual attachments broken. Once attached these entities break down your aura, slowly bit by bit, and this is how they end up gaining total control. Once removed, the aura needs to be repaired, which can be done by visuallising gold ribbons and 'weaving' them into the aura. When this is done regularly, especially during healings and or meditiation, the aura will heal. Whilst there are holes in the aura a person is suspectable to entity attachment, and the same entity will reattach if it has not been returned to the underworld. If an entity is 'hiding' from the clearer it can be returned to the person by grabbing and pulling on the attachment. This makes the entity panic and return to try and scare the person clearing, if your not scared of them whilst doing this, when they return and find this out, they often stop doing anything leaving you free to clear them. They are very much like a naughty child, and need to be treated appropriately. As entities attach into the crown, they also attach into your pineal and pituitary glands, and then control your hormones. Your hormones release energy into your system, and by controlling your hormones, the entities gain control over your energy. They take your energy and use it for themselves. The same happens when you give a reiki treatment to a person who has an entity attached. The light of reiki pushes the entity away from your auric field, but will then steal the energy from your body, negating the positive effect of reiki. So when healing on a person reiki should be used to protect the healer, the entity should be removed and then reiki can be given effectively. Entities or demons are lower vibrational beings, that means they exist in a realm that is not of light, they provide the balance, they bring us our lessons, and they do the negative things in the world to provide lessons. They are not good or bad they have a role to play and that is what they try and do. Unattached entities have little or no power, it's only when they attach into a person and are given physical energy can they really do any harm, and then that harm is done through the person they are attached to. Usually by this stage they have total control and so the soul in that body isn't actually responsible for what happens. As we have physical power we already have more power than an entity, remember this and use it. Take Care Liz _______________ E-mail just got a whole lot better. New ninemsn Premium. Click here http://ninemsn.com.au/premium/landing.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 d.k.kothari wrote: >dt.11.2.2004 > >this is an awakening call for all energy healers. > > when you give reiki , you may be attacked also. i give a slight expansion. when you give reiki, > Scary stuff but not in accord with my experience of Reiki or the Experiences of many thousands of Reiki Practitioners and other energy workers . If one does come under some form of Psychic attack it is not because of Reiki . People have to have some kind of opening /invitation/ expectation for such a thing to happen . Protection and removal if needed is very easy though one has to reach the point where one recognizes that it is easy . Any one who feels that they are under attack etc. is advised to work on their own issues do grounding, shielding, releasing of personal negativity's fear hate etc., forgive yourself and others , practice compassion ,mindfulness and loving kindness, connect with Spiritual energy and guidance . Harmful entities cannot and will not stay in the presence of positive Spiritual connection. Please remember the law of attraction. what you pay attention to and focus on is what you get and call into your life . There are many stones for protection, releasing fear and others for mental and spiritual clarity but also Pink Kunzite and Chrysocolla and that black stone that looks like it is printed with circuitry seem to want to be mentioned in this specific context Peggy Jentoft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2004 Report Share Posted February 12, 2004 At 02:28 PM 2/11/2004, you wrote: > > d.k.kothari wrote: > > when you give reiki , you may be attacked also. i give a slight > expansion. when you give reiki, > > >Scary stuff but not in accord with my experience of Reiki or the >Experiences of many thousands of Reiki Practitioners and other energy >workers . Thank you Peggy for your words concerning that post. I was a bit disturbed by the 'assuredness' with which the author spoke, as his words do not reflect, in general, that which I have been taught, experienced, and read about in numerous books. Also the statement; " lower vibrational entities are sometimes destroyed while normal reiki does not touch higher ones. " ; was interesting, as it has always been my understanding that energy is never created or destroyed, only transmuted. >Please remember the law of attraction. what you pay attention to and focus >on is what you get and call into your life . This statement is one reason that I personally try to refrain from even using words such as 'negative' energy and such, as I care not to have them in my mind, since, to paraphrase: 'that which we think, we manifest'. I also appreciated your reminders of the various stone friends we have to help us through our days and on our paths. Just today, I gave a piece of hematite to a person needing to work with Grounding issues. Peace and Love, Byron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2004 Report Share Posted February 12, 2004 Hi there I agree totaly with what Peggy has said here and I would like to add my own point of view....... I read the e-mail (or rather some of it) that d.k.kothari wrote and I gave up half way through.. there was so much fear emanating from it that I couldn't read any further. From experience, personal and watching people around me, I would have to say that one thing that attracts these little nasties better than anything is FEAR.. if you are frightened of them it is like putting a beacon on top of your head saying " you hoo I'm here!!! " When we start working with the light, in whatever way, I feel we do make ourselves targets to these things but if we then fear them we attract them even more. I see these things as little nasties that need a kick up the backside and sending into the light to be dealt with appropriately... if need be invoke the violet flame to help them on their way but DO NOT be frightened of them..... fear comes from the ego... it is a detachment from spirit... this is what they want. We are all strong enough to deal with these things so there is no need to worry. Now I admit I haven't personally had a REALLY nasty one although I have experienced some pretty big ones... at one point I was going to leave my partner, get my cat sedated so that I could travel 250 miles to a friends house, leave the job that I love and totally rip my world apart... one phone call and 2 hours later all was fine, the entity was gone and I was back to normal. So please, for your own sake... do not be firghtened of them, use whatever method it takes, visualisation, affirmation... whatever to dispell your fear of them. Love and light Heather > d.k.kothari wrote: > > >dt.11.2.2004 > > > >this is an awakening call for all energy healers. > > > > when you give reiki , you may be attacked also. i give a slight expansion. when you give reiki, > > > Scary stuff but not in accord with my experience of Reiki or the > Experiences of many thousands of Reiki Practitioners and other energy > workers . > If one does come under some form of Psychic attack it is not because of > Reiki . People have to have some kind of opening /invitation/ > expectation for such a thing to happen . Protection and removal if > needed is very easy though one has to reach the point where one > recognizes that it is easy . Any one who feels that they are under > attack etc. is advised to work on their own issues do grounding, > shielding, releasing of personal negativity's fear hate etc., forgive > yourself and others , practice compassion ,mindfulness and loving > kindness, connect with Spiritual energy and guidance . Harmful entities > cannot and will not stay in the presence of positive Spiritual > connection. > Please remember the law of attraction. what you pay attention to and > focus on is what you get and call into your life . > There are many stones for protection, releasing fear and others for > mental and spiritual clarity > but also Pink Kunzite and Chrysocolla and that black stone that > looks like it is printed with circuitry seem to want to be mentioned in > this specific context > > Peggy Jentoft > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2004 Report Share Posted February 12, 2004 Hi Peggy and d.k.kothari, I am somewhere in the middle here. I am not a Reiki practioner so I can't comment on that part of the post. I do want to give a middle-of- the-road perspective. I am a member of the Energyclear group and I have known Liz's partner Tammi since we were both members of the SpiritWeb Reincarnation List which is now a . A couple of years ago Liz and Tammi did a scan of my photo and found an entity attached to me. They removed it successfully as far as I can tell. In December my family and I went to Tucson for vacation. We flew while the country was under code orange and we flew Southwest which was one of the worst flying experiences of my life. The next morning about an hour after I awoke I experienced a very severe muscle spasm in my neck. When I returned home a visit to my cranial osteopath reduced the problem 95%. A day and a half later the spasm returned during a stressful phone call. The next day I realized that I had some sort of entity attachment again. Fortunately my dear friend Pat was in town. Pat is an internationally known psychic and energy worker. She lectures for ASD (American Society of Dowsers) and her manager is the president of ASD. She could see the entity and knew that I picked it up on the original airplane ride. She said it hopped over to me from another passenger because my vibration was higher than the original hosts. (Who knew?....) She worked on me for a few minutes and sent the entity lovingly to the light. My problems have subsided to the point where only occaisionally do I feel a little twinge in my neck. I went back to Tucson a couple of weeks ago for the HUGE rock and mineral shows and flew United. This time I had no problems at all and my neck was fine. I even had to lug 2 very heavy suitcases a little bit. It is very hard to maintain a positive loving light all the time and there are many stressful situations. I don't think we need to obsess about negative attachments but I also don't think we should be in denial either. Love and Light, Annie moderator of the Reincarnation Group reincarnation-l/ , " d.k.kothari " <dkishan@v...> wrote: > dt.11.2.2004 > > this is an awakening call for all energy healers. the subject of negative entities, energies, forces,devils has found much less attention and who are responsible for most of the pitfalls in healing. problems / diseases come again & again. > > liz is moderator of energyclear group and is a professional energy clearer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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