RE: New Orleans, Government, Corporations, Puritans, & Huna

[Guest guest]

>So ... what's MISSING from " The chain of

>responsibility for the protection of the citizens in

>New Orleans? "

 

>Hmmm?

 

>Who is ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE for the protection of

>the citizens of New Orleans?

 

>Here's a hint ...

 

>It is " the citizens of New Orleans. "

 

 

Agreed. The 1st law of Huna: take responsibility for everything in

your life (correct?). In other words: be at cause, not effect. But we

all know that most people are NOT at cause, and we on this list are in

the minority. So what do we do about that?

 

Should we preach our philosophy to those at effect, trying to convert

them?

Should we recognize that they are on their own path of development and

treat them with compassion?

Should we say fuck them, they deserve what they get because they're

stupid?

How should we deal with them?

How should we deal with the folks in N.O.?

 

 

 

>> In case you aren't familiar with how our government

>> is SUPPOSED to work:

>> The chain of responsibility for the protection of

>> the citizens in New Orleans is:

>>

>> 1. The Mayor

>> 2. The New Orleans director of Homeland Security (a

>> political appointee of the Governor who reports

>> to the Governor)

>> 3. The Governor

>> 4. The Head of Homeland Security

>> 5. The President

>>

>> What did each do?

 

>Let's forget about " What did each do? " for now because

>this forum is not about blaming ... it is about

>learning.

 

>And everyone makes mistakes, right?

 

>And let's set aside the fact that this is NOT " how our

>government is SUPPOSED to work " (See the 10th

>Amendment) even though it is how the government is

>behaving ...

 

 

Yes. Blaming does nothing but make the masses feel better when the

problem is still there.

 

But let's look at the failures of the " system, " not to take blame but

to see how we can make it better.

 

When we're born we enter into a social contract...we obey the laws of

the government and in return we get a measure of peace and security.

 

Now if you pay your taxes, don't kill anyone, stop when cops pull you

over, etc. You are abiding by your end of the contract.

 

But when the government fails to provide adequate aid...

....when cops force women to show their breasts to be rescued

....when the city delays the red cross from entering the disaster area

to help because " they aren't ready "

....when the head of FEMA has no previous experience except as head of

an organization dealing with arabian horses

 

The government is NOT abiding by ITS end of the contract.

 

It's true, the citizens of N.O. have the ultimate responsibility, but

the government ALSO has some responsibility. The government is elected

by the people so when it fails...it means we failed.

 

Like I said, I'm not trying to place blame. I'm seeing that there's a

problem and I think that we should look for solutions to it.

 

See something wrong, take steps to fix it...isn't what someone at cause

would do? Isn't take taking responsibility for your own life?

 

Mike

[Guest guest]

Vince, all.

 

Comments and perspective below... Long thread... you were warned!! (Or do I need

a UN declaration... that would be more effective that the Presidents... wouldn't

it?)

 

>

> Huna-Ohana

> [Huna-Ohana ] On Behalf Of Rev. James

> Vinson Wingo, DD

> Saturday, September 10, 2005 5:17 PM

> Huna-Ohana

> [Huna-Ohana] New Orleans, Government, Corporations,

> Puritans, & Huna

>

> --- Original Message ---

>

> > We Are the Government or were...until Corporate Welfare

> took over...!!

>

> Interesting.

>

> What is " Corporate Welfare? "

 

People who see corporations as having and tax advantages, unlimited funds, great

lobbying influence within government organizations. Of course any " expenses "

that a corporation has or avoids impact what they charge the end user

consumer... So " we the individual consumer " end up paying for ALL activity...

don't we?

 

>

> How specifically did " Corporate Welfare " take over the Government?

>

 

Perhaps the view that big lobbyist have so much power in government has some

merit. And that could lead to the potential belief that " corporate welfare " has

taken over government. As any population grows under a given organizational

structure, the lowest rung of that society becomes further removed from the

decision making process... for instance, today, many large corporations ASK

their employees to contribute to a PAC that supports the Corporation. This

fosters the false belief that the individual can not make a difference.

 

.... from a historical perspective look at what happened to the Roman Empire...

or the Soviet Union...

 

> What is a corporation?

>

 

Legally? An " artificial " entity created to provide ADVANTAGES -- liability

limits, tax breaks, organization structure... etc...

 

 

> Do PEOPLE own corporations?

 

People or groups of people control corporations, whether publicly traded or

privately held.

 

>

> Can an INDIVIDUAL own stock in a corporation?

>

Yes. We can. But if I own 10 shares, and the CEO own 10,000,000 shares... who

wins?

 

Of course I can choose to sell my shares to a greater fool and take my money and

attention elsewhere... If I support the corporation and the corporations support

something I completely disagree with who is the fool? (i.e. the corporate policy

is for gun control... and if I felt that we already have too much gun

control...)

 

> What does all this have to do with Huna?

>

 

My personal money and attention are personal energy. Where do I choose to focus

my energy? Can I change my focus? Can I direct it?

 

> ... with the First Lesson of the Kahuna?

>

 

Consciously Focus on what you want.

 

> What can we learn from this discussion to work toward our ideals?

>

 

Everyone can have different ideals. Everyone has CHOICE to choose there OWN

path. The path may not make any sense to you... so what! FOCUS on WHAT YOU want

and desire.

 

 

> What does all this have to do with the Salem Puritans?

> ... (Yes, it is OK if you want to check the Huna archives

> on " Salem Puritans. "

 

Let's see archive or past post #1089 (for anyone who chooses to read and study

it...)

 

Do NOT limit OTHERs choices and paths. It is important that they walk their OWN

path and make their OWN choices.

 

Personal responsibility was the missing 1st step in much of what has been

happening... has it not?

 

Greg R. The " Huna Gator "

 

P.S. Calvin -- MMHP

P.P.S More below... if you are still reading...

 

 

>

> > -------- Forwarded Message --------

> >

> > I'm forwarding this article, although I do feel that FEMA's Michael

> > Brown really was incompetent.

>

> Was he?

>

 

Probably... but we all have moments of incompetence.

 

 

> How specifically?

>

> Who cares and why do they care?

>

> I don't care.

 

I don't either...

 

>

> Why don't I care if Feta's Michael Brown was incompetent ...

> and what what does that have to do with Huna?

 

I think this is a Justification by transference. People see Huna as helpful.

Great! However, some people feel they need to justify the " helpers " to DO more!

Or attract more help!

 

>

> > Oh...and Brown's previous experience included fundraising

> for Bush's

> > campaign....Gee, wonder how he got appointed?

>

> What is the purpose of this?

 

Linking Brown to the " evil right wing conspiracy... " and someone else they do

not like...

 

>

> Did all previous Presidents appoint only people who opposed

> them to cabinet positions?

>

 

It's call the privilege of office.... Hundreds, probably THOUSANDS are appointed

by the " winning party... " during any administration...

 

> We know HOW he was appointed ... How was he CONFIRMED?

>

 

Congress (or REPRESENTATIVES) get to ask questions, and then vote on CONFIRM or

DENY the appointments if at a high enough level... so our REPUBLIC has our

" vote " combine into those few representatives... as set up by the US

Constitution...

 

 

> Why was his confirmation left out?

>

 

It did not support there argument that they had nothing to do with approving the

person in the job... so they didn't want to admit it...

 

> WHAT ELSE has been left out?

>

> Try this ... this is where it gets REALLY SCARY!!!

>

> ... and I'm NOT picking on the original author or the person

> who posted this ...

>

> Don't blame the messenger, right?

>

> Notice the symptoms of a serious mental disease ... a serious

> mental disease that is very prevalent ...

> silently killing the minds of countless peoples throughout

> the world ...

 

Generalization, Deletion, and Distortion... My view is the only view. My view is

right. I am helpless and must rely on others. I take no responsibility for my

life...

 

>

> And Huna has the cure.

>

> OK?

>

> What's missing from this list?

>

> > In case you aren't familiar with how our government is SUPPOSED to

> > work:

> > The chain of responsibility for the protection of the

> citizens in New

> > Orleans is:

> >

> > 1. The Mayor

> > 2. The New Orleans director of Homeland Security (a

> > political appointee of the Governor who reports

> > to the Governor)

> > 3. The Governor

> > 4. The Head of Homeland Security

> > 5. The President

> >

> > What did each do?

>

> Let's forget about " What did each do? " for now because this

> forum is not about blaming ... it is about learning.

>

> And everyone makes mistakes, right?

>

> And let's set aside the fact that this is NOT " how our

> government is SUPPOSED to work " (See the 10th

> Amendment) even though it is how the government is behaving ...

>

> So ... who is MISSING from " The chain of responsibility for

> the protection of the citizens in New Orleans? "

>

> Hmmm?

>

> Who is ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE for the protection of the

> citizens of New Orleans?

 

I am responsible for ME. You are responsible for YOU.

 

>

> Here's a hint ...

>

> It is " the citizens of New Orleans. "

>

> I hope that helps ...

>

> Now ...

>

> Say you are studying Huna ...

>

> ... just pretend, OK?

>

> Who is responsible for you and everything that happens in your life?

>

> Hmmm?

 

I am. The good, the bad, and the ugly... or the Good, The Better, and the

Beautiful....

 

>

> What did the Kahuna say?

>

> --Vince

>

> Rev. James Vinson Wingo, DD

>

> Buy Me an eBeer!

> http://buy-vince-a-beer.com/

>

 

Do buy Vince a beer. He encourages a lot of great thought!

 

Greg R. " Huna Gator "

 

 

.... The end... The beginning...