Guest guest Posted February 21, 2005 Report Share Posted February 21, 2005 Thank you for your information! According to essential of the pain there have two different pains--deficient pain and excess pain. Donifiy and reduce is different manipulate by hands in clinic and also the treatment time is showing different tonify and reduce too. Judy In a message dated 2/18/2005 11:55:10 AM Eastern Standard Time, reservexo writes: No they are not going to pay for 45 mins of acupuncture treatment. Depending on the policy, first 15 mins. will be paid 100% and second 15 mins. will be paid at a discount. In what case would you need to needle someone for 45 mins.? Your question does not make sense. If you are treating different illness than treat it on seperate days if you want to be paid for all the illness seperately if not I cant not see in any situation where you would need to needle and bill insurance company for 45 mins. And dont bill insurance company for moxa or cupping, you will not get paid. And if you do it will be very little. Use 97124 for tuina in conjuction with your 97810 and 97811 than you should get paid anywhere from $90 to $120. 97810=$45,97811=$45,97124=$50 and if it is work men's comp use 97813 and 97814. acupuncture , drjudyhou@a... wrote: > > Hi, Bob, > Your mean is one session acupuncture treatment you should bill two-three > codes. For example: after you wash hands and insert the needles for 15 mins, > then you turn the needles and leave those needles there for 30 mins, the bill > should be 97813, 97814 and another 97814(another 15 mins for treatment). If you > treat a patient for 45 mins, then you should bill insurance for 3 times > 97814? Does insurance pay that high bill? If a patient has lower back pain can't > lie face down, you need to take other points like Yao Tong Xei or Yiang Lao > to reduce the pain first, then to perform your ragular treatment, how do you > bill insurance? > > What's code for cupping and moxa? What's code for Tuina? > > Thank you for your explanation! > > Judy > > In a message dated 2/17/2005 4:50:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, > reservexo writes: > > 97781 changed to 97813 for first 15 mins > and add 97814 for additional 15 mins. > > 97780 changed to 97810 for first 15 mins > and add 97811 for additional 15 mins. > > -- In acupuncture , " Bob Linde,AP, Herbalist " > <boblindeherbalist> wrote: > > Check the acupuncture today from Jan or Feb and it has new codes > and explainations. > > Bob > > www.acuherbals.com > > > > > > drjudyhou@a... wrote: > > Hi, friend: > > > > Who knows new CPT code of acupuncture for billing health > insurance? How about > > old code 97781 and 97780? > > > > Thank you! > > > > Judy > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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