Fwd: FREEBEES, Lack of Motivation, & Convincer Strategies

[Guest guest]

creative_energies , " Given Bliss "

<givenbliss@h...> wrote:

Jack, could you send me more information on your work at my personal

address?

 

givenbliss@h...

 

Thank you for taking the time to do this and for taking the time to

share your knowledge.

 

Given

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kahunamaker

creative_energies

Friday, May 28, 2004 1:59 AM

[creative_energies] FREEBEES, Lack of Motivation, &

Convincer Strategies

 

 

> > I was thinking more about the whole idea of a study group

today

> >after reading about the new houston area group. It led me to

> >post a call for a study group in my area on my personal blog.

 

A couple of ideas on three different aspects, if I may?

 

Actually a FREE STUDY GROUP would go hand in glove with an energy

practitioner's work routine.

 

So, if you normally have a 6 hr work day...5 days a week, then a 2

hr ADVERTISED FREEBEE on a Friday Evening from 7-9, if it matched

the criteria of your current clientel, would work fantastic for

you

and them.

 

The FREEBEE would give them something positive to experience your

work by...and would also give you the opportunity to add to that

FREEBEE routine, " what else " they could do that would help them...

 

...and do that " what else " only in private sessions.

 

...Sort of like many energy practitioners do at Donna's seminars

when they are Teacher's Assistance...

 

...they show up and FREELY help those beginners and less advanced,

but they also do private sessions for $100 to $200 bucks per

session, for those that want to be worked on.

 

That way their expenses are paid, their plane fare is paid, and

they

might even end up with a buck on two in their pockets when they

return home.

 

As far as FREE STUDY GROUPS go, I don't really understand the self-

motivation behind doing that " IF " you are not in the business of

an

energy practition...

 

...one " guess " on my part is the thought that you might give

FREEBEES because that would give you the opportunity to practice

on

others so you could also hone your own skills...

 

...and these practice sessions would end after about 4 weeks, when

your own skills were honed.

 

And, actually that is/was what I was doing. I have other clients

and

I'd pick from them people that wanted certain skills, then

practice

my newfound skills on them.

 

When I got those skills to a basic level of Conscious competancy,

then I moved on.

 

BUT...doing the FREEBEE just for alturistic reasons (unselfish

interest in the welfare of others) seems, in real life, to be self

defeating for two primary reasons.

 

REASON #1, that will not pay the rent, nor buy food for yourself

or

your loved ones.

 

REASON #2, if it is free, than there is no incentive for the ones

attending to actually place any value on the skills you are

teaching.

 

Now I know that Ricard is teaching about 150 at Unity in a study

group.

 

And I know that many were motivated by Donna showing up and doing

some work there.

 

So the next question is, " what did Donna do specifically that

motivated them? "

 

(I've modeled her behavior, sequences and dialogue, so I think I

know, and I use those technologies also when I give energy

seminars.)

 

Richard, I suggest you take a group of 10 of these people and do a

bio-data questionaire on them, paying particular attention to the

13

questions that I gave you last week at my seminar...

 

...especially the " convincer " strategy questions.

 

I think you'll be surprise and perplexed at the information you

garner.

 

If you do that, then model what I do (and Donna Does, BUT no one

else seems to do)on the first of all my seminars, then I'll give

you

some more.

 

Fair?

 

Please notice that I freely give out information WHEN the

client/friend has done the preliminary work themselves so that the

next step is now apparent and makes sense.

 

And that information would be based upon the " what " , " WIIFM " , " how-

to " , and " what else " formula of seminar presentations that is

easily

adapted to study groups, individual trainings, etc.

 

On that one post a few days ago, " PR " stands for Psychological

Reversal. In David's new book, " Energy Psychology Interactive " ,

pages 75-91, he goes over the various kinds of PR and how to

quickly " fix " them so energy interventions and psychological

interventions will work.

 

That's VERY IMPORTANT!

 

Without the PR fixed first, then NOTHING works. Energy Medicine

does

not work. Energy Psychology does not work. EFT does not work.

Hypnosis does not work. NLP does not work.

 

I really appreciate this group.

 

It gives me the opportunity to write about, and to think about

some

skills that I normally do not pay much attention to.

 

Thank you VERY MUCH Barbara Ann!

 

John M. La Tourrette (aka Jack Quick Kill)

 

 

 

 

" Energy is all there is! " ~ Donna Eden

[Guest guest]

creative_energies , " Barbara Ann OLeary "

<earthskyenergies> wrote:

creative_energies , " kahunamaker "

<kahunamaker> wrote:

>

> I really appreciate this group.

>

> It gives me the opportunity to write about, and to think about

some

> skills that I normally do not pay much attention to.

>

> Thank you VERY MUCH Barbara Ann!

 

You're welcome, Jack! I like that about the list as well.

 

Thanks for the thoughts and experiences people have shared about

doing a study group. Gave me a lot to think about.

 

My impulse for a study group at this time is completely personal.

I'm not looking for opportunities to do any teaching, though I

recognize that as someone knowledgeable about energies and about the

techniques and approaches Donna Eden shares I'll no doubt be called

upon to share in that way. And I do enjoy that, so that won't be a

hassle.

 

But I'm really interested in having a small group of people who can

deepen their awareness of energy medicine and practice with each

other. I guess it is really that I want to have someone to practice

with - to develop my facility and understanding of new work I'm

learning (from workshops and videos and discussions like the ones we

have here at creative_energies) for one thing. Sometimes you just

need someone to practice on and my sweetheart... well, he's been

there and done that! ;-)

 

I also want to cultivate some people who can support me in my

healing. I do a lot of healing work for myself, but sometimes it

really is important to have someone else to step up and engage your

energies. At the moment that's not something I have access to here

in Indiana. So I'm just going to grow my own support! We'll see

how

it goes.

 

....

 

I love the phrase " convincer strategies " . Donna's really good at

demonstrating the effectiveness of her techniques, isn't she? It's

what really gets people's juices flowing. She's so clearly shifting

energies in people's fields. It's so engaging.

 

....

 

I've also been thinking about one of the things I like most about

this creative_energies group is that we aren't really here to

convince anyone of anything. We're not here to agree. We're not

here

to get cozy or feel safe or anything like that. We're just gathered

with the intention of connecting more deeply with our own energies

and to share what's true for each of us at this time in relationship

to our practice of what I call " Donna Eden style energy medicine " .

 

I invite everyone in the group to keep a few things in mind when

posting, so we'll all feel the energies flowing as freely as

possible:

 

- please refrain from assessments and labeling of another person's

motives, beliefs, behaviors.

 

- recognize that we are all evolving in our awarenesses and in the

health and flexibility of our energy fields, so we won't all be in a

position to communicate from the most authentic place or in the most

effective ways at all times.

 

- Don Miguel Ruiz' Four Agreements are terrific guidelines for

participation in a group like this: 1) Be Impeccable With Your

Word, 2) Don't Take Anything Personally, 3) Don't Make Assumptions,

4) Always Do Your Best (no more or less, but just the best for you

at

that moment)

 

- if you find yourself having an uncomfortable response to something

shared on the list, take a breath and recognize that as a gift... an

invitation to explore what in your energy field is generating that

response. our energetic wounds and our energy imbalances are what

cause the pain we experience. i've heard Donna say many times that

pain is a sign of excess energy. practice some energy techniques.

like neurovascular holds. like any of the exercises in the 5

Rhythms

chapter of the book - depending on what emotion may have surfaced.

like unscrambling. or whatever you need. and if you find you are

having difficulty identifying where the imbalance is, ask the group

to help support you on your healing journey.

 

- stay focused on your own dream. don't get hooked by someone

else's

dream.

 

- say what's true for you.

 

- keep the list focused on the information and support we're here to

share. let's not turn the list into an evaluation of participation.

 

Lastly, it's not my style to interject and to play the heavy. I

expect participants in this group to claim responsibility for their

own experiences and to be gracious enough to allow tensions to arise

and dissipate naturally without adding fuel to keep them alive.

 

Thanks! As we've just passed the anniversary of 4 years of

wonderful

interaction in this space, I hope we'll be able to look back on this

group 4 years from now with a sense that we were able to hold space

for learning, sharing, differences of style, etc.

 

peace,

 

Barbara Ann

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