Guest guest Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 From Dr Paul J Reinhardt, MD __ habeas_1 naturaldoc1 CC: ACUDOC11 11/24/2009 4:19:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time Subj: RE: First Professional Doctorate (FPD) Mike: Your multi tiered licensing comment interests me. In Florida all DCs are not equal. A separate certification is required to use acupuncture. In Alabama my chiro buddies are fed up that they are practicing under an allopathic runned " Composite " medical board.(With no acupuncture by anyone---even licensed M.D.s are harassed) Just for my own curiosity what does the comment " no multi tiered licensing " mean to you or did in mean in past struggles ? I have studied past chiro, naturopath, and osteopath caselaw a never came across the term explained. Paul Reinhardt M.D. ----------- mike Bowser <naturaldoc1 <Chinese Traditional Medicine > Cc: <habeas_1 RE: First Professional Doctorate (FPD) Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:12:02 +0000 Richard, You are wrong. The DC's have gotten consensus on several important issues that affect the entire profession: 1) Doctorate degree for entry level 2) primarycare status in all 50 states 3) no multi-tiered licensing. For the rest, it is like you said. But these three are what we are lacking and you can see a huge difference between in usage and respect. Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc __ Chinese Medicine CC: habeas_1 acudoc11 Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:55:53 -0500 Re: First Professional Doctorate (FPD) Michael The Chiropractic profession is no different. In Florida there are three distinct associations. a) those who think of themselves and act as MDs b) those who wish to just be back-crackers and c) those who wish to still live in the dark ages. Then there are states where DCs can do injection therapy, states where they can't and the same goes for the use of acupuncture needles. So no consensus. So if the DCs haven't gotten a national coordinated act together what makes anyone think LAc's ever will? Richard In a message dated 11/24/2009 11:27:34 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, _naturaldoc1@naturaldoc1_ (naturaldoc1) writes: John, Part of this responsibility belongs to our schools and should be part of our education. The profession is very weak when it comes to practice mgmt, ethics and legal issues in my experience. As for legal designations, that is a matter that state associations must grapple with on a state by state basis. Some states have fought hard to allow us usage of doctor or physician titles and have a scope of practice that is more worldly while others, largely due to the practitioners, want to keep us lowkey and under the radar. When you find a consensus, that is the maximum level of agreement established. Think of this as a need to expand our mindset in states with poor statutes. Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __ Windows 7: I wanted simpler, now it's simpler. _I'm a rock star._ (http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?h=myidea?ocid=PID24727:\ :T:WLM TAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_myidea:112009) __________ _Online Police Training Online law enforcement degree programs - 100% online while you work._ (http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2242/c?cp=Adj0vyqANvjDsALRNHqvagAAJ1HXh3 Q-qsfi3nfRh5njizHtAAQAAAAFAAAAAG3nOz4AAANSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAB3EQAAAAA=) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 Has the First Professional Doctorate caught your attention yet? (This is different from the DAOM that many schools have already implemented.) The proposed FPD would eventually replace the existing First-Professional Masters as the entry-level degree for the acupuncture profession. Transitional programs would be needed for already graduated or practicing acupuncturists to upgrade their degree status. And new standards for the practice of acupuncture could lead to changes in existing practice laws. All of which translate into several different problems: .. High costs are already a barrier to entering AOM school for certain populations, including ethnic and racial minorities, and the poor. Diversity of practitioners impacts the diversity of populations served. Any increases in cost to students and practitioners are ultimately passed on to the public. .. Striving for status and legitimacy in the current medical system does not directly serve patients or communities. A new degree title does not create respect or recognition, jobs, or increase wages. .. An estimated 70% of acupuncturists are no longer practicing as their main source of income after 5 years. A new, more expensive degree does not address the causes for practice failure, and in fact creates more financial stress for new practitioners in the form of debt. .. The current master's level of education already produces safe and effective practitioners; there is no demonstrated need for a new degree. .. Programs for currently licensed practitioners to " upgrade " to an entry-level doctorate are unaccredited, and create unnecessary expenditure of time and money for existing practitioners. .. Creating jobs for acupuncturists will be more difficult if graduates have greater debt, and fewer graduates may result from an increase in costs to obtain a degree. Here is a great piece on what a chiropractor thinks of the proposed FPD for acupuncturists: http://www.communityacupuncturenetwork.org/blog/chiropractors-perspective-fpd It's very important to express your opposition right now. The ACAOM is trying to determine whether there is consensus within our profession for proceeding with a FPD. The deadline for any written/fax submissions to ACAOM is January 15th. Comments must be submitted via fax at 301-313-0912 or regular mail (ACAOM, 7501 Greenway Center Drive, Maryland Trade Center 3, Suite 760, Greenbelt, MD 20770). We recommend registered mail if you're snail mailing. It is highly recommended that you keep a copy of your letter if you are snail mailing. Here's a sample letter to get you started: ACAOM Maryland Trade Center #3 7501 Greenway Center Drive, Suite 760 Greenbelt, MD 20770 RE: Practitioner of OM OPPOSED to a First-Professional Doctorate DATE, 2009 To the Accreditation Commission for Acupuncture and Oriental Medicine, As a practitioner of Oriental medicine, I am considered to be a key stakeholder in the successful practice of acupuncture and Oriental medicine in this country. I am opposed to the development of standards for and subsequent piloting of a first professional doctorate in acupuncture and in Oriental medicine at this time. While I am open to the idea of a doctorate for acupuncture and for Oriental medicine, I do not believe that what is currently being considered is amenable to all interested parties and that further conversation is needed. I do believe that with an open dialogue, an outcome can be reached that benefits not only those that have differing opinions on the doctorate issue, but the patients they serve as well. Sincerely, NAME NAME OF CLINIC SIGNATURE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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