Guest guest Posted November 7, 2003 Report Share Posted November 7, 2003 In a message dated 11/7/03 2:00:53 AM, writes: << it has been my observation that the FDA does a lot more harm than good. As just one example, the FDA is the organization that approved nutrasweet! >> Rich, I agree. Check out my letter of November 6, 2003 below! Jock November 6, 2003 Dennis Rice Happy Valley School www.hvalley.org drice Dear Dennis, How are you today? As the director of a nonprofit organization that researches health issues, I look into all sorts of subjects, from the hazards of water fluoridation to the anti-cancer benefits of tomatoes. Last year when I was tutoring at Happy Valley, I noticed that many of the kids were chewing gum that contained the artificial sweetener aspartame. So I did some research. I found out that aspartame is a molecule composed of three components: aspartic acid, phenylalanine, and methanol. Once ingested and warmed by the body, aspartame begins to change. At 86 degrees Fahrenheit, the methanol in aspartame converts to formaldehyde. Formaldehyde is an Environmental Defense Fund recognized carcinogen, a suspected gastrointestinal or liver toxicant, immunotoxicant, neurotoxicant, reproductive toxicant, respiratory toxicant, and skin or sense organ toxicant. Formaldehyde is " more hazardous than most chemicals in 5 out of 12 ranking systems. " It appears on at least 8 federal regulatory lists and is ranked as " one of the most hazardous compounds (worst 10%) to ecosystems and human health. " (http://www.vaclib.org/basic/vacingredient.htm) Aspartame is found in over 5,000 products in the U.S., notably diet drinks, candy, and sugar-free gums. American girls chew sugar-free gum largely to keep from gaining weight, but it turns out that aspartame makes the body crave carbohydrates (due to serotonin depletion), so people who chew aspartame-containing gum are more likely to gain weight than lose it. Further, formaldehyde stores in fat cells, particularly on the hips and thighs. Since NutraSweet and Equal and the other artificial sweeteners that contain aspartame have hit the market, obesity has become a national epidemic, leading one researcher to remark, " If you want to be fat, Diet Coke is where it's at. " (http://www.dorway.com/mpflyer.txt and http://aspartamekills.com/warning.pdf) But weight gain is not the only common symptom of aspartame consumption. Ingesting aspartame can result in any of 92 documented adverse symptoms, from chronic fatigue to depression to headaches to anxiety to concentration difficulties to seizures to blindness to coma to death. The FDA's approval of aspartame, produced by the chemical company Monsanto, is--how can I say this politely?--somewhat tainted. James S. Turner, author of " The Chemical Feast: The Nader Report on the Food and Drug Administration, " and partner in the 29-year-old Washington, D.C. consumer-interest law firm Swankin and Turner, gives us the full story in his article, " The Aspartame/NutraSweet Fiasco " (http://csf.colorado.edu/envtecsoc/2002/msg00440.html). I have talked personally with many of the kids at school about the unscientific nature of the FDA approval of aspartame, as well as the hazards of the substance. The kids listen with great interest and then buy another Diet Coke or take out another stick of Orbit. " It tastes good, " they say. Last year I brought to school a gum called Peelu that is sweetened with a harmless natural sweetener called sorbitol. The kids liked it, and about 25 of them (95% of the kids that tried it) signed a petition saying that they thought it should be sold at the student store as an alternative to the current gums containing aspartame. I have talked about this petition to students associated with the year-2003/4 student store, but they feel that the price of Peelu gum is too high. " No one will buy it, " they say. This may well be the case. I spoke with one of the students responsible for student store purchases about the possibility of making Happy Valley a showcase for a Peelu (or other) natural gum in exchange for the gum company's giving the school a significant or even total price break on the gum. Peelu or some other natural gum company could work in tandem with the school administration to make Happy Valley school an " aspartame-free zone, " thus helping kids to stay healthy, concentrate better on studies, and keep their bodies in shape. An aspartame-free Happy Valley School, with all of its smiling and happy kids, would be a major advertising coup for any company. Today there are over 4,000 web sites dedicated to uncovering the hazards of aspartame. There are scores of books on the dangers of aspartame. (See especially Janet Hull's " Sweet Poison: How The World's Most Popular Artificial Sweetener Is Killing Us. " ) Unfortunately, these kinds of facts don't have the power to convince kids that the hazards of aspartame are real. Facts can't compete with taste. Perhaps the Happy Valley administration can become the straw that mends the camel's back. Perhaps there is someone at the school who would be interested in stepping in and giving the kids a helping hand into the sweet and happy valley of health. In health, Jock Doubleday Jock Doubleday Natural Woman, Natural Man, Inc. A 501©3 California Nonprofit Corporation 323 E. Matilija, Suite 110-131 Ojai, CA 93023 http://GentleBirth.org/nwnm.org www.SpontaneousCreation.org jockdoubleday The information contained in this email is not a substitute for professional caregiver advice. Jock Doubleday is the author of Spontaneous Creation: 101 Reasons Not To Have Your Baby in a Hospital. 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Guest guest Posted November 8, 2003 Report Share Posted November 8, 2003 Hate to rain on your parade... but sorbitol is not user friendly. It is so toxic that it cannot even be used as a preservative in tubes of blood. When they tried to so use it, it immediaately broke down the bllod cells. It, along with benzoates is amongst the most toxic of prservatives in use today. A preservative would not preserve anything if it didn't kill everything that has life or metabolism in it. Sorbitol stimulates autoimmune response against the bodies own tissues. When you read the list of ingredients on a product if anything listed has Protect your identity with Mail AddressGuard http://antispam./whatsnewfree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 Any suggestions for what to use in place of Aspartame without resorting to sugar? There are some things that just need sweetening. So far, where I live all artificially sweetened products appear to contain Aspartame. Hugz Tint~ Courage does not always roar. Sometimes, it is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, " I will try again tomorrow " ---- wildmouse 05/18/06 14:06:47 Aspartame (was Re: Adrenal failure) Hello all, Aspartame can most certainly cause weight gain and/or stop weight loss. Apparently it messes with the pancreas in some way... which is really bad for healthy folks but even worse for someone with diabetes. Aspartame is a dangerous poison and causes many, many health problems besides weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 I use honey, turbinado (raw, unrefined sugar) and the herb stevia can also be used as it is sweeter than sugar. Blessings, Michelle Newport, CH Nature For Life " Better Health Through Better Living " http://www.natureforlife.com > ------- > Re: Aspartame > " Tint " <tints_den > Thu, May 18, 2006 11:32 am > > > Any suggestions for what to use in place of Aspartame without resorting > to > sugar? There are some things that just need sweetening. So far, where I > live > all artificially sweetened products appear to contain Aspartame. > > Hugz > Tint~ > > Courage does not always roar. Sometimes, it is the quiet voice at the > end of > the day saying, " I will try again tomorrow " > > ---- > > wildmouse > 05/18/06 14:06:47 > > Aspartame (was Re: Adrenal failure) > > Hello all, > > Aspartame can most certainly cause weight gain and/or stop weight loss. > Apparently it messes with the pancreas in some way... which is really > bad for healthy folks but even worse for someone with diabetes. > Aspartame is a dangerous poison and causes many, many health problems > besides weight. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 Thanks Michelle Honey, I know, though it doesn't quite 'go' with everything. Stevia, I will look for. I have heard quite a bit about it. Not sure of its availability here. Now turbinado, or unrefined sugar. I know I'm going to sound uneducated, but isn't that brown sugar? What's the difference? Hugz Tint~ Courage does not always roar. Sometimes, it is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, " I will try again tomorrow " ---- mnewport 05/18/06 16:36:55 RE: Aspartame I use honey, turbinado (raw, unrefined sugar) and the herb stevia can also be used as it is sweeter than sugar. Blessings, Michelle Newport, CH Nature For Life " Better Health Through Better Living " http://www.natureforlife.com > ------- > Re: Aspartame > " Tint " <tints_den > Thu, May 18, 2006 11:32 am > > > Any suggestions for what to use in place of Aspartame without resorting > to > sugar? There are some things that just need sweetening. So far, where I > live > all artificially sweetened products appear to contain Aspartame. > > Hugz > Tint~ > > Courage does not always roar. Sometimes, it is the quiet voice at the > end of > the day saying, " I will try again tomorrow " > > ---- > > wildmouse > 05/18/06 14:06:47 > > Aspartame (was Re: Adrenal failure) > > Hello all, > > Aspartame can most certainly cause weight gain and/or stop weight loss. > Apparently it messes with the pancreas in some way... which is really > bad for healthy folks but even worse for someone with diabetes. > Aspartame is a dangerous poison and causes many, many health problems > besides weight. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 One of my new faves is Agave Syrup, tastes like honey but is suitable for diabetics. Laura , wildmouse <wildmouse wrote: > > Sure! > > Stevia is GREAT and you can even grow it yourself, as long as you don't > mind the look of it in your food. It is a herb so dried and chopped, it > kinda looks like parsley! That doesn't bother me at all but is does some > folks. If you prefer sweetener that looks more like sugar, you can buy > the processed extract at most grocery stores these days. If your local > grocer doesn't have it, ask them to carry it and buy it online until > they do. > > I personally like Xylitol quite a bit - it is yummy yummy yummy and has > many healthy side-effect such as preventing tooth decay and gum > disease. In fact, some sugarless gums use it for this reason and I'm > starting to notice it show up in toothpaste's as well. (My favorite one > is the Young Living brand). Xylitol is made from either corn or beech > hardwoods. However, outside of health food stores, it is still somewhat > hard to find so bug your grocer to stock this too. (I buy " to-go > packets " from a neighbor who is in some sort of MLM company.) Before > you buy though, check the manufacturers websites too see *where* it is > made and from *what* source so you can make sure to get a brand that is > organic, clean and all that good jazz. > > Somewhere around here I have a long article on Xylitol that I put > together a while back - I'll find it and post it if you guys are > interested. Just let me know... > > The other thing I would recommend is simply to sparingly use natural > sugars such as organic sugars, honey, molasses, brown sugar, etc. > Unlike the fake sweeteners, they are healthier for the body than any > chemical would ever be *and* your body already knows how to process > these sugars and when used in moderation, they won't kill you. Yes, they > have calories so you would have to keep track of that if dieting but > using real sugars in a lesser amount and NOT consuming poison is still > better than consuming Aspartame in any quantity. > > Watch out for Aspartame in yogurt and other such things too. I have NO > idea why they would want to mess up a good thing like yogurt with a > sweetener - much less a poisonous one - but they are doing it. So read > the labels on everything, even if it's a product you have used for > years. They are quietly sneaking it in everywhere. > > Oh yea, drink water or unsweetened ice tea. You not only would spare the > calories and poisons but water and tea are cheaper than sodas so you > would save money too. It's just a matter of getting used to it... and > that's not all that hard really. > > I also encourage EVERYONE to write to and call food manufacturers and > demand healthier products. Call and/or write your local grocer and ask > them to stock more organic healthy foods instead of the poisoned foods. > Tell them that if they don't, you will find somewhere else to spend your > money. (Doesn't matter if you don't really have any place else to shop - > they want your $$$ and *will* listen to you). Join survey groups such > as Harris Poll or Anne Parks and then indicate via your surveys answers > that you want non-toxic, healthy foods for your family and that nothing > else will do. And if there is a comment box at the end of the survey, be > sure to say something along those lines there as well. > > One last thing - cook from scratch as much as possible. By doing so, you > can control the ingredients and avoid the preservatives, food color, > toxins, and excessive sugar. The convenience foods are what made us > overweight and unhealthy in the first place and the best solution is a > return to " home made foods " and leave those ready-to-eat products on the > shelf... or in the dumpster where they belong! > > Hope this helps! > > Mouse > > ps. Splenda is out as well... almost as many problems with it as there > are with Aspartame so avoid it too. > > > > Tint wrote: > > >Any suggestions for what to use in place of Aspartame without resorting to sugar? There are some things that just need sweetening. So far, where I live all artificially sweetened products appear to contain Aspartame. > > > >Hugz > >Tint~ > > > >Courage does not always roar. Sometimes, it is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, " I will try again tomorrow " > > > >---- > > > >wildmouse > >05/18/06 14:06:47 > > > > Aspartame (was Re: Adrenal failure) > > > >Hello all, > > > >Aspartame can most certainly cause weight gain and/or stop weight loss. > >Apparently it messes with the pancreas in some way... which is really > >bad for healthy folks but even worse for someone with diabetes. > >Aspartame is a dangerous poison and causes many, many health problems > >besides weight. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 Sure! Stevia is GREAT and you can even grow it yourself, as long as you don't mind the look of it in your food. It is a herb so dried and chopped, it kinda looks like parsley! That doesn't bother me at all but is does some folks. If you prefer sweetener that looks more like sugar, you can buy the processed extract at most grocery stores these days. If your local grocer doesn't have it, ask them to carry it and buy it online until they do. I personally like Xylitol quite a bit - it is yummy yummy yummy and has many healthy side-effect such as preventing tooth decay and gum disease. In fact, some sugarless gums use it for this reason and I'm starting to notice it show up in toothpaste's as well. (My favorite one is the Young Living brand). Xylitol is made from either corn or beech hardwoods. However, outside of health food stores, it is still somewhat hard to find so bug your grocer to stock this too. (I buy " to-go packets " from a neighbor who is in some sort of MLM company.) Before you buy though, check the manufacturers websites too see *where* it is made and from *what* source so you can make sure to get a brand that is organic, clean and all that good jazz. Somewhere around here I have a long article on Xylitol that I put together a while back - I'll find it and post it if you guys are interested. Just let me know... The other thing I would recommend is simply to sparingly use natural sugars such as organic sugars, honey, molasses, brown sugar, etc. Unlike the fake sweeteners, they are healthier for the body than any chemical would ever be *and* your body already knows how to process these sugars and when used in moderation, they won't kill you. Yes, they have calories so you would have to keep track of that if dieting but using real sugars in a lesser amount and NOT consuming poison is still better than consuming Aspartame in any quantity. Watch out for Aspartame in yogurt and other such things too. I have NO idea why they would want to mess up a good thing like yogurt with a sweetener - much less a poisonous one - but they are doing it. So read the labels on everything, even if it's a product you have used for years. They are quietly sneaking it in everywhere. Oh yea, drink water or unsweetened ice tea. You not only would spare the calories and poisons but water and tea are cheaper than sodas so you would save money too. It's just a matter of getting used to it... and that's not all that hard really. I also encourage EVERYONE to write to and call food manufacturers and demand healthier products. Call and/or write your local grocer and ask them to stock more organic healthy foods instead of the poisoned foods. Tell them that if they don't, you will find somewhere else to spend your money. (Doesn't matter if you don't really have any place else to shop - they want your $$$ and *will* listen to you). Join survey groups such as Harris Poll or Anne Parks and then indicate via your surveys answers that you want non-toxic, healthy foods for your family and that nothing else will do. And if there is a comment box at the end of the survey, be sure to say something along those lines there as well. One last thing - cook from scratch as much as possible. By doing so, you can control the ingredients and avoid the preservatives, food color, toxins, and excessive sugar. The convenience foods are what made us overweight and unhealthy in the first place and the best solution is a return to " home made foods " and leave those ready-to-eat products on the shelf... or in the dumpster where they belong! Hope this helps! Mouse ps. Splenda is out as well... almost as many problems with it as there are with Aspartame so avoid it too. Tint wrote: >Any suggestions for what to use in place of Aspartame without resorting to sugar? There are some things that just need sweetening. So far, where I live all artificially sweetened products appear to contain Aspartame. > >Hugz >Tint~ > >Courage does not always roar. Sometimes, it is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, " I will try again tomorrow " > >---- > >wildmouse >05/18/06 14:06:47 > > Aspartame (was Re: Adrenal failure) > >Hello all, > >Aspartame can most certainly cause weight gain and/or stop weight loss. >Apparently it messes with the pancreas in some way... which is really >bad for healthy folks but even worse for someone with diabetes. >Aspartame is a dangerous poison and causes many, many health problems >besides weight. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 Mouse, How do you hook up to grow your own Stevia? And is it something that you can grow inside in the winter? Lorain wildmouse <wildmouse Thu May 18 16:00:26 CDT 2006 Re: Aspartame Sure! Stevia is GREAT and you can even grow it yourself, as long as you don't mind the look of it in your food. It is a herb so dried and chopped, it kinda looks like parsley! That doesn't bother me at all but is does some folks. If you prefer sweetener that looks more like sugar, you can buy the processed extract at most grocery stores these days. If your local grocer doesn't have it, ask them to carry it and buy it online until they do. I personally like Xylitol quite a bit - it is yummy yummy yummy and has many healthy side-effect such as preventing tooth decay and gum disease. In fact, some sugarless gums use it for this reason and I'm starting to notice it show up in toothpaste's as well. (My favorite one is the Young Living brand). Xylitol is made from either corn or beech hardwoods. However, outside of health food stores, it is still somewhat hard to find so bug your grocer to stock this too. (I buy " to-go packets " from a neighbor who is in some sort of MLM company.) Before you buy though, check the manufacturers websites too see *where* it is made and from *what* source so you can make sure to get a brand that is organic, clean and all that good jazz. Somewhere around here I have a long article on Xylitol that I put together a while back - I'll find it and post it if you guys are interested. Just let me know... The other thing I would recommend is simply to sparingly use natural sugars such as organic sugars, honey, molasses, brown sugar, etc. Unlike the fake sweeteners, they are healthier for the body than any chemical would ever be *and* your body already knows how to process these sugars and when used in moderation, they won't kill you. Yes, they have calories so you would have to keep track of that if dieting but using real sugars in a lesser amount and NOT consuming poison is still better than consuming Aspartame in any quantity. Watch out for Aspartame in yogurt and other such things too. I have NO idea why they would want to mess up a good thing like yogurt with a sweetener - much less a poisonous one - but they are doing it. So read the labels on everything, even if it's a product you have used for years. They are quietly sneaking it in everywhere. Oh yea, drink water or unsweetened ice tea. You not only would spare the calories and poisons but water and tea are cheaper than sodas so you would save money too. It's just a matter of getting used to it... and that's not all that hard really. I also encourage EVERYONE to write to and call food manufacturers and demand healthier products. Call and/or write your local grocer and ask them to stock more organic healthy foods instead of the poisoned foods. Tell them that if they don't, you will find somewhere else to spend your money. (Doesn't matter if you don't really have any place else to shop - they want your $$$ and *will* listen to you). Join survey groups such as Harris Poll or Anne Parks and then indicate via your surveys answers that you want non-toxic, healthy foods for your family and that nothing else will do. And if there is a comment box at the end of the survey, be sure to say something along those lines there as well. One last thing - cook from scratch as much as possible. By doing so, you can control the ingredients and avoid the preservatives, food color, toxins, and excessive sugar. The convenience foods are what made us overweight and unhealthy in the first place and the best solution is a return to " home made foods " and leave those ready-to-eat products on the shelf... or in the dumpster where they belong! Hope this helps! Mouse ps. Splenda is out as well... almost as many problems with it as there are with Aspartame so avoid it too. Tint wrote: >Any suggestions for what to use in place of Aspartame without resorting to sugar? There are some things that just need sweetening. So far, where I live all artificially sweetened products appear to contain Aspartame. > >Hugz >Tint~ > >Courage does not always roar. Sometimes, it is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, " I will try again tomorrow " > >---- > >wildmouse >05/18/06 14:06:47 > > Aspartame (was Re: Adrenal failure) > >Hello all, > >Aspartame can most certainly cause weight gain and/or stop weight loss. >Apparently it messes with the pancreas in some way... which is really >bad for healthy folks but even worse for someone with diabetes. >Aspartame is a dangerous poison and causes many, many health problems >besides weight. > > ********************************************* Peacefulmind.com Sponsors Alternative Answers- HEALING NATURALLY- Learn preventative and curative measure to take for many ailments at: http://www.peacefulmind.com/ailments.htm __________ -To INVITE A FRIEND to our healing community, copy and paste this address in an email to them: http://health./subs_invite _________ To ADD A LINK, RESOURCE, OR WEBSITE to Alternative Answers please Go to: http://health./links ___________ Post message: Subscribe: - Un: - List owner: -owner _______ Shortcut URL to this page: http://health. 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Guest guest Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 Laura Agave....is it natural? Lorain Laura <laurampoulin Thu May 18 15:55:46 CDT 2006 Re: Aspartame One of my new faves is Agave Syrup, tastes like honey but is suitable for diabetics. Laura , wildmouse <wildmouse wrote: > > Sure! > > Stevia is GREAT and you can even grow it yourself, as long as you don't > mind the look of it in your food. It is a herb so dried and chopped, it > kinda looks like parsley! That doesn't bother me at all but is does some > folks. If you prefer sweetener that looks more like sugar, you can buy > the processed extract at most grocery stores these days. If your local > grocer doesn't have it, ask them to carry it and buy it online until > they do. > > I personally like Xylitol quite a bit - it is yummy yummy yummy and has > many healthy side-effect such as preventing tooth decay and gum > disease. In fact, some sugarless gums use it for this reason and I'm > starting to notice it show up in toothpaste's as well. (My favorite one > is the Young Living brand). Xylitol is made from either corn or beech > hardwoods. However, outside of health food stores, it is still somewhat > hard to find so bug your grocer to stock this too. (I buy " to-go > packets " from a neighbor who is in some sort of MLM company.) Before > you buy though, check the manufacturers websites too see *where* it is > made and from *what* source so you can make sure to get a brand that is > organic, clean and all that good jazz. > > Somewhere around here I have a long article on Xylitol that I put > together a while back - I'll find it and post it if you guys are > interested. Just let me know... > > The other thing I would recommend is simply to sparingly use natural > sugars such as organic sugars, honey, molasses, brown sugar, etc. > Unlike the fake sweeteners, they are healthier for the body than any > chemical would ever be *and* your body already knows how to process > these sugars and when used in moderation, they won't kill you. Yes, they > have calories so you would have to keep track of that if dieting but > using real sugars in a lesser amount and NOT consuming poison is still > better than consuming Aspartame in any quantity. > > Watch out for Aspartame in yogurt and other such things too. I have NO > idea why they would want to mess up a good thing like yogurt with a > sweetener - much less a poisonous one - but they are doing it. So read > the labels on everything, even if it's a product you have used for > years. They are quietly sneaking it in everywhere. > > Oh yea, drink water or unsweetened ice tea. You not only would spare the > calories and poisons but water and tea are cheaper than sodas so you > would save money too. It's just a matter of getting used to it... and > that's not all that hard really. > > I also encourage EVERYONE to write to and call food manufacturers and > demand healthier products. Call and/or write your local grocer and ask > them to stock more organic healthy foods instead of the poisoned foods. > Tell them that if they don't, you will find somewhere else to spend your > money. (Doesn't matter if you don't really have any place else to shop - > they want your $$$ and *will* listen to you). Join survey groups such > as Harris Poll or Anne Parks and then indicate via your surveys answers > that you want non-toxic, healthy foods for your family and that nothing > else will do. And if there is a comment box at the end of the survey, be > sure to say something along those lines there as well. > > One last thing - cook from scratch as much as possible. By doing so, you > can control the ingredients and avoid the preservatives, food color, > toxins, and excessive sugar. The convenience foods are what made us > overweight and unhealthy in the first place and the best solution is a > return to " home made foods " and leave those ready-to-eat products on the > shelf... or in the dumpster where they belong! > > Hope this helps! > > Mouse > > ps. Splenda is out as well... almost as many problems with it as there > are with Aspartame so avoid it too. > > > > Tint wrote: > > >Any suggestions for what to use in place of Aspartame without resorting to sugar? There are some things that just need sweetening. So far, where I live all artificially sweetened products appear to contain Aspartame. > > > >Hugz > >Tint~ > > > >Courage does not always roar. Sometimes, it is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, " I will try again tomorrow " > > > >---- > > > >wildmouse > >05/18/06 14:06:47 > > > > Aspartame (was Re: Adrenal failure) > > > >Hello all, > > > >Aspartame can most certainly cause weight gain and/or stop weight loss. > >Apparently it messes with the pancreas in some way... which is really > >bad for healthy folks but even worse for someone with diabetes. > >Aspartame is a dangerous poison and causes many, many health problems > >besides weight. > > > > > ********************************************* Peacefulmind.com Sponsors Alternative Answers- HEALING NATURALLY- Learn preventative and curative measure to take for many ailments at: http://www.peacefulmind.com/ailments.htm __________ -To INVITE A FRIEND to our healing community, copy and paste this address in an email to them: http://health./subs_invite _________ To ADD A LINK, RESOURCE, OR WEBSITE to Alternative Answers please Go to: http://health./links ___________ Post message: Subscribe: - Un: - List owner: -owner _______ Shortcut URL to this page: http://health. 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Guest guest Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 I *knew* I was forgetting one! lol.... Yummy stuff that Agave. Laura wrote: >One of my new faves is Agave Syrup, tastes like honey but is suitable >for diabetics. > >Laura > > > , wildmouse <wildmouse >wrote: > > >> <>Sure! >> >> Stevia is GREAT and you can even grow it yourself, as long as you >> don't mind the look of it in your food. It is a herb so dried and >> chopped, it kinda looks like parsley! That doesn't bother me at all >> but is does some folks. If you prefer sweetener that looks more like >> sugar, you can buy the processed extract at most grocery stores these >> days. If your local grocer doesn't have it, ask them to carry it and >> buy it online until they do. > > ...............snip..................... -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 Yes, very much so, Lorain http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agave Tint~ Courage does not always roar. Sometimes, it is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, " I will try again tomorrow " ---- TheKoolLottes 05/18/06 18:42:51 Re: Re: Aspartame Laura Agave....is it natural? Lorain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 Hi Lorain, A quick search on ebay found several folks selling Stevia seeds and plant starts. I'm sure there are plenty of website that offer it too. I think I'm going to look for a good source as well - throw them out there with the mints and they should be fine. Here are a few links to info for growing your own... http://www.stevia.net/growingstevia.htm http://www.herbalgardens.com/articles/stevia.html http://www.mulberrycreek.com/Detailed/187.html http://www.territorial-seed.com/stores/1/Stevia_Growing_Guide_W94C445.cfm?UserID\ =15963493 & jsessionid=8c30e1b23627$F6$E0F$ http://www.tastefulgarden.com/Stevia.htm I'm sure it would grow on a windowsill like other herbs will... anyone have experience doing that? I have a few friends who grow it but it's all outdoors. Course, you could always plant alot of it to make sure you would have enough for the winter. Just dry it after harvest and keep till you need it. Hope this helps, Mouse ps. Yes, agave is natural... same plant that tequila is made from. TheKoolLottes wrote: >Mouse, > >How do you hook up to grow your own Stevia? And is it something that you can grow inside in the winter? > >Lorain > > > > > > -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 You're welcome. Turbinado is raw sugar that has not been refined and it does have a light brown color. But, Brown Sugar is processed the same as white sugar. Blessings, Michelle Newport, CH Nature For Life " Better Health Through Better Living " http://www.natureforlife.com > ------- > RE: Aspartame > " Tint " <tints_den > Thu, May 18, 2006 12:56 pm > > > Thanks Michelle Honey, I know, though it doesn't quite 'go' with > everything. Stevia, I will look for. I have heard quite a bit about it. > Not > sure of its availability here. Now turbinado, or unrefined sugar. I know > I'm > going to sound uneducated, but isn't that brown sugar? What's the > difference? > > Hugz > Tint~ > > Courage does not always roar. Sometimes, it is the quiet voice at the > end of > the day saying, " I will try again tomorrow " > > ---- > > mnewport > 05/18/06 16:36:55 > > RE: Aspartame > > I use honey, turbinado (raw, unrefined sugar) and the herb stevia can > also be used as it is sweeter than sugar. > > Blessings, > > Michelle Newport, CH > Nature For Life > " Better Health Through Better Living " > http://www.natureforlife.com > > > > > ------- > > Re: Aspartame > > " Tint " <tints_den > > Thu, May 18, 2006 11:32 am > > > > > > Any suggestions for what to use in place of Aspartame without > resorting > > to > > sugar? There are some things that just need sweetening. So far, where > I > > live > > all artificially sweetened products appear to contain Aspartame. > > > > Hugz > > Tint~ > > > > Courage does not always roar. Sometimes, it is the quiet voice at the > > > end of > > the day saying, " I will try again tomorrow " > > > > ---- > > > > wildmouse > > 05/18/06 14:06:47 > > > > Aspartame (was Re: Adrenal failure) > > > > Hello all, > > > > Aspartame can most certainly cause weight gain and/or stop weight > loss. > > Apparently it messes with the pancreas in some way... which is really > > > bad for healthy folks but even worse for someone with diabetes. > > Aspartame is a dangerous poison and causes many, many health problems > > > besides weight. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 On the same subject (more or less), how much do you know about saccharin? I want to thank you so much for all the information you've been passing along. You've been so helpful Hugz Tint~ Courage does not always roar. Sometimes, it is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, " I will try again tomorrow " ---- wildmouse 05/18/06 17:02:05 Re: Aspartame Sure! Stevia is GREAT and you can even grow it yourself, as long as you don't mind the look of it in your food. It is a herb so dried and chopped, it kinda looks like parsley! That doesn't bother me at all but is does some folks. If you prefer sweetener that looks more like sugar, you can buy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2006 Report Share Posted May 20, 2006 Thanks Tint, I appreciate that. I don't know as much about saccharin as aspartame but it is just as bad. What I do know is that my mother drank alot of Tab back in the day and she died of cancer. An uncle by marriage was fond of it in his ice tea and he recently was diagnosed with a cancer as well. I never understood why anyone would use that stuff 'cos it tastes like poo if you ask me... Peace, Mouse Tint wrote: >On the same subject (more or less), how much do you know about saccharin? > >I want to thank you so much for all the information you've been passing >along. You've been so helpful > >Hugz >Tint~ > >Courage does not always roar. Sometimes, it is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, " I will try again tomorrow " > >---- > >wildmouse >05/18/06 17:02:05 > > Re: Aspartame > >Sure! > >Stevia is GREAT and you can even grow it yourself, as long as you don't >mind the look of it in your food. It is a herb so dried and chopped, it >kinda looks like parsley! That doesn't bother me at all but is does some >folks. If you prefer sweetener that looks more like sugar, you can buy > > > -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 I didn't know Tab was still out. I can't think why people drank it.... it was horrible, but that's just my opinion Is Tab still sold in the USA? Tint~ ---- wildmouse 05/19/06 22:17:42 Re: Aspartame Thanks Tint, I appreciate that. I don't know as much about saccharin as aspartame but it is just as bad. What I do know is that my mother drank alot of Tab back in the day and she died of cancer. An uncle by marriage was fond of it in his ice tea and he recently was diagnosed with a cancer as well. I never understood why anyone would use that stuff 'cos it tastes like poo if you ask me... Peace, Mouse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2006 Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 Unfortunately...yes...Tab is still sold here in the USA. My dad drank it when I was little. It tasted horrible then...and still does today! (My opinion.) I have tried so hard to drink diet soda but I can't do it. I've tried all the kinds and maybe it's just because of the toxic ingredients. I've heard that some of the ingredients in diet soda actually increases your appetite! ~Diane > I didn't know Tab was still out. I can't think why people drank it.... it > was horrible, but that's just my opinion Is Tab still sold in the USA? > > Tint~ > > ---- > > wildmouse > 05/19/06 22:17:42 > > Re: Aspartame > > Thanks Tint, I appreciate that. > > I don't know as much about saccharin as aspartame but it is just as > bad. What I do know is that my mother drank alot of Tab back in the day > and she died of cancer. An uncle by marriage was fond of it in his ice > tea and he recently was diagnosed with a cancer as well. I never > understood why anyone would use that stuff 'cos it tastes like poo if > you ask me... > > Peace, > > Mouse > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2006 Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 Hi Diane, Yes I have heard too that diet soda does increase appetite but I think it's by a similar process that sugar, honey, or anything else sweet does. I had no idea they still had Tab in the US! My mother used to drink that too when I was a kid, and it was a major " treat " to get some though I probably wouldn't like it now. I was actually allowed only diet pop as a kid but didn't even have that often.which is probably a good thing. Take care, Carol Ann Zensight Energy Work FREE Ebook & Ecourse <http://www.ZensightProcess.com> www.ZensightProcess.com _____ Unfortunately...yes...Tab is still sold here in the USA. My dad drank it when I was little. It tasted horrible then...and still does today! (My opinion.) I have tried so hard to drink diet soda but I can't do it. I've tried all the kinds and maybe it's just because of the toxic ingredients. I've heard that some of the ingredients in diet soda actually increases your appetite! ~Diane _____ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2006 Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 To me, Tab tastes awful. In fact, I have developed a distaste for all diet sodas. The taste is simply off. But that might be because I'm drinking more water and thus craving more water. Now orange juice is something you an offer me anytime I do believe that if people were encouraged to drink natural products like water or orange juice, there wouldn't be as much of a fight over the possibility of putting harmful chemicals into our body. Hugz Tint~ Courage does not always roar. Sometimes, it is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, " I will try again tomorrow " ---- Diane 05/22/06 00:17:41 Re: Aspartame Unfortunately...yes...Tab is still sold here in the USA. My dad drank it when I was little. It tasted horrible then...and still does today! (My opinion.) I have tried so hard to drink diet soda but I can't do it. I've tried all the kinds and maybe it's just because of the toxic ingredients. I've heard that some of the ingredients in diet soda actually increases your appetite! ~Diane > I didn't know Tab was still out. I can't think why people drank it.... it > was horrible, but that's just my opinion Is Tab still sold in the USA? > > Tint~ > > ---- > > wildmouse > 05/19/06 22:17:42 > > Re: Aspartame > > Thanks Tint, I appreciate that. > > I don't know as much about saccharin as aspartame but it is just as > bad. What I do know is that my mother drank alot of Tab back in the day > and she died of cancer. An uncle by marriage was fond of it in his ice > tea and he recently was diagnosed with a cancer as well. I never > understood why anyone would use that stuff 'cos it tastes like poo if > you ask me... > > Peace, > > Mouse > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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