Guest guest Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 I strongly agree that living an extra extremely healthy 20 to 50 years past a " normal " life cycle is available with the technology that we are practicing. You have have have to open my awareness to the easily available resources that substantiate these claims. Again, it is not that I didn't know the resources were available, but more that you have demonstrated how accessible they are and roughly the state of the technology, (with a special mention to Dr Tiller). And probably more importantly that there is a strong community that shares these beliefs and is researching and developing this technology. Furthermore we define our self within the community, family and friends that we live. If the community is living beliefs that are unhealthy then we live these beliefs consciously and subconsciously weather we want to or not. This is my belief system) So my present thoughts are if we are " manifestation masters " then not only can we manifest our definition of ourselves and the life that we choose, but we can manifest the relationships that support our chosen reality. Taking it even a step further, one of the pesky bits that keeps getting in the way is that for one to change into something, they change out of something. Giving up our ignorance is not small task. As Doc's video shows, We love our excuses! But again, as " Manifestation Masters " we can manifest this transformation also... right! Thanks again for all the time you spend here on the groups! I am a great fan of Heinlein and Lazarus Long. Will check out the David Weber, Honor Harrington books. Looks like you can get the first one for a penny! Peace. William Leigh , " docspeed2001 " <docspeed2001 wrote: > > , " William Leigh " <william4x5@> wrote: > > > > Fair Enough! I have Chopras book, aging body timeless mind right next to me. Good reading. > > Yep William, > > Good 'doing' also. > > > Understand the basic premises that our attitude, subconscious beliefs, emotional processes etc are all connected and our conscious mind, if we develop the skills can change our subconscious processes, emotions and body functions. > > Yep. > > > The one flaw in everyone that you mentioned is that those guys are >dead or will probably die. Their theories are incorrect. > > Well, let's see. > > Nathan Pritiken died 20 some years after the MD's said he should. His heart disease did heal, and he did die of something else. Something that is stress related. > > He also talked about the Tararumara indians (spelling?)that used to be long living and very active to the end...then the ones in the states got on our diet and started dying young. > > And there is still a group of them in deep Mexico that are continuing on with their old ways and still are healthy and active to the end of a long life time. > > >Good place to start, but really, not enough.... (My reasoning has >some flaws... but Bandler is looking pretty rough... > > And he does think that he looks and feels very young. > > Not my place to disagree. > > There is always that question, " In comparison to who " ? > > > Maybe Chopra will make it past 90.... wanna place bets? Maharishi lived over 100! and of course EC stopped by again for another round!) > > I really think we need to go and reread Heinlein, right? Methuselah's children. And read the last book in that series. > > Or read the David Weber Honor Harrington series where people go through a process called " prolong " ... > > So there is no retirement because of age. There is only retirement because of boredom. > > > My present thoughts are around the ideas that the work we are doing may not be good enough. There is a pretty strong belief pattern >about getting older and dying. > > Makes sense. > > So let's all quit living and lay down to die. Especially since there is this thing called retirement (social death) at age 65. > > >More importantly, our society does a pretty good job of programming us to believe the possibilities that we have as we pass into old age: >quite limited. > > That is changing. > > Why? > > The baby boomers are now middle age. > > >And there is a really strong tendency of almost everyone to die. > > I'm pretty sure that it is built into us just like it is built into an automobile. > > And look at Vitamin C guru L. Pauling. He died at 92, and lead a pretty good life up until close to the end. > > Now that brings us to religion and philosophy. > > Which I will not go over on this group, but if you want to broach it on MMES, go ahead. > > > It seems to me that to be really healthy or really old there is a level where attitude is just not enough. Training yourself >consciously and subconsciously to be healthier is just not enough. > > It is not enough to live forever on planet earth? > > How about just extending your life with full functions until you die, and you die 20-50 years later than those who abuse their bodies? > > Keeping your energies flowing and balanced. > > Keeping slim and trim and athletic. > > Keeping an interest in your areas of interest. > > Not needing the blue pill. > > Doing what turns you on. > > For instance I just purchased a very expensive commercial property to launch a new business (s) just because that is fun for me. > > I suggest that people who are concerned about aging, health and losing it go and buy the 5 years worth of Boston Legal, and look at how Shatner (Denny Crane) handles those concerns. > > Not only would it be fun, but there is much that is very deep embedded in the story lines. > > John La Tourrette, PhD > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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