if you are a good trainer and you KNOW YOUR SHIT, the training will work

[Guest guest]

--- docspeed2001 <docspeed2001 wrote:

> --- , " stuydaze " <stuydaze> wrote:

> > So i guess my question is, if your Huna hounder

> > had tried to undermine the fun, not by direct

> > action of his own, but by joining the convention,

> > winning over some of the attendees and getting

> > them to act for him, how would you detect and

> > handle that?

>

> Vince, Lori, Cinta, Greg, Cal, blab, blab, you were

> all there.

>

> What's your input on Jeff's question?

 

First, you did an awesome job with those two. It's in

my transcript of the one-on-one session we did.

 

Last year we had one of those " surrogates " Jeff

described ... where the hounder sort of " won over " one

of the attendees and sent her to act for him.

 

So what I did was I made sure I performed three

miracles at three different times with three different

people right in front of her so she SAW what happened.

 

This year, SHE was one of the people " protecting " and

watching for black widows.

 

" Sometime the best defense is a ... "

 

That's right.

 

--Vince

 

PS - How do you DETECT THEM ... I feel them " in the

pit of my stomach. "

 

http://huna-ohana.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

What's interesting is that, when you brought him up later on and

worked on him, I could see a change in his attitude, the expression

on his face (I think maybe it was embarassment, perhaps anger, since

his face became red) as he realized that what you were doing was

working and he was being made an example of. It was funny really.

I'm glad he apologized, shows he had some guts.

 

As for Jeff's question, you could detect if there is someone present

trying to undermine you by using energy testing. There are a lot of

ways to use it. It's something that anyone can learn to do fairly

quickly with a good teacher, some calibration and practice.

 

Thanks

 

Lori

 

healingenergies-

essentialskills , " docspeed2001 " <docspeed2001>

wrote:

> --- , " stuydaze " <stuydaze> wrote:

> > So i guess my question is, if your Huna hounder had tried to

> undermine the fun, not by

> > direct action of his own, but by joining the convention, winning

> over some of the

> > attendees and getting them to act for him, how would you detect

> and handle that?

>

> Check out the dvd's to my last 2 workshops at the Huna World

> Convention. I had two of them Huna hounders.

>

> I fixed BOTH of them and it's on video!

>

> By the end of the seminar they BOTH had come up to me and had

> apologized for their behavior, and their non-belief...

>

> Why?

>

> Because, inspite of their attitudes, the drills STILL WORKED!

>

> And, inspite of one actually attempting to sandbag everthing I did,

> I MADE HIM THE EXAMPLE, and made it work anyway.

>

> So, my sincere answer is, " teach them the best you know how " ,

> because if you are a good trainer and you KNOW YOUR SHIT, the

> training will work, and they WILL NOTICE.

>

> Vince, Lori, Cinta, Greg, Cal, blab, blab, you were all there.

>

> What's your imput on Jeff's question?

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, guys for the responses! I know what you mean about feeling

them. Right in the pit of your stomach. Sometimes it even seems like

the feeling comes in from the left side & swims around.

 

In a similar vein (coincidentally?) this just recently occurred:

 

I was riding on the subway next to a really unhappy guy. I could feel

the unhappiness, and actually it was kinda bringing me down, but I

didn't have much farther to go. At the same time, I was reading the

Silva method, & came to a line that stated something to the effect

that you can't project a negative at someone, it won't work. So I'm

wondering how different it is from radiating it & focussing it, or is

there mor involved, or am I just missing the something?

 

BTW, I' having no luck at all getting to Doc's site. Is there a trick?

A password? A particular vibration?

 

Cheers,

Jeff

[Guest guest]

Well, Jose Silva included the preconditionings and hypnotic and

post-hypnotic commands about what you could or could not do so people

wouldn't have a cow about it.

 

Fact of the matter is that you CAN project something negative to

someone, as you just found out.

 

We can further demonstrate this with energy testing (See numerous

videos from Doc, for example).

 

What you CAN'T do very well is be angry at someone and stay at level.

 

What OTHER ways could the same effects be done, though, with or

without the use of the emotion of anger?

 

Different tools for different jobs.

 

A frenzied anger works real good for some things, especially when you

have the shock value of a bunch of them attacking all at once, but a

sniper has to stay calm and keep his breathing and heartbeat and blood

pressure under control and pick his targets and his shots without

emotion. Now which one is more efficient? Which one is more

effective?

 

The Kahuna ana'ana and other varieties of the Black Magicians who

practiced the Kahuna arts (as opposed to the " nicer " Kahunas, for

instance the healers) used way too much alcohol and used rage to

attack their victims psychically.

 

Those Kahunas also died young.

 

It is also true that when someone attacks another person's energy

field, it has an effect on the person doing the attack also. This is,

again, easy to demonstrate with energy testing.

 

If you want to know some ways to get around that (at least

temporarily), then check the mindmastery-essentialskills archive.

 

Also, note that in the conditioning cycles, Jose included those

statements about what you could or could not do, yet his own

definition of " spiritual " seems to be much different than what is in

those conditioning cycles which were designed to pacify the " goody

goody New Agey " people.

 

I'm re-reading The Silva Mind Control Method To Think And Grow Fit by

Jose Silva and Ed Bernd, Jr. (out of print -- I got mine NEW from Doc,

and I don't know if he still has any NEW books available or not. I

haven't seen one in the bookstore in a few years. You might be able

to get a used one online. I wish they would re-publish that book.

Awesome materials!)

 

In that book, they mention spiritual energy. Now I'm not sure if it

was Jose or Ed writing at that point, but...

 

They said the way to accumulate spiritual energy is through desire and

the experience of doing something successfully.

 

I thought that was pretty neat, since the reason we all chose to be

here is to gain experiences and successfully do things.

 

There weren't any conditions put in that section about " right " or

" wrong " .

 

You know, the first few times I went through that book, I thought it

was a pretty darn good book, but I hadn't even opened it in a long

time. Then yesterday, something forced me to look over at one of my

bookshelves, and my eyes were drawn almost right away to that book,

even though I had looked at other books on that shelf recently and

ignored that book, and something just made me get up and start to read

it again.

 

Real awesome book! And if I recall correctly, Doc had some input into

that book, too. Is that correct, Doc?

 

Anyways, it's an AWESOME guide to rehearsing and DOING skills you want

to learn. It's written for athletic peak performance, but you can use

it for any darn thing you want to use it for!

 

Real awesome book! I HIGHLY recommend you ask Doc if he has any more

of those available.

 

(Another good book for conditioning yourself with hypnosis and mental

imagery for success is Kroger & Feydler's book, although it is " dry "

and " boring " in places. I'm sure I'll think of some other sources

later... Get the book by Jose Silva and Ed Bernd, Jr.! Did I mention

it's an AWESOME book?!?!?!)

 

Jim

 

 

 

 

 

>

>

> On Behalf Of

> stuydaze

> Monday, August 08, 2005 2:12 AM

>

> Re: if you are a

> good trainer

> and you KNOW YOUR SHIT, the training will work

>

>

> Thanks, guys for the responses! I know what you mean about feeling

> them. Right in the pit of your stomach. Sometimes it even seems like

> the feeling comes in from the left side & swims around.

>

> In a similar vein (coincidentally?) this just recently occurred:

>

> I was riding on the subway next to a really unhappy guy. I

> could feel

> the unhappiness, and actually it was kinda bringing me down, but I

> didn't have much farther to go. At the same time, I was reading the

> Silva method, & came to a line that stated something to the effect

> that you can't project a negative at someone, it won't work. So I'm

> wondering how different it is from radiating it & focussing

> it, or is

> there mor involved, or am I just missing the something?

>

> BTW, I' having no luck at all getting to Doc's site. Is

> there a trick?

> A password? A particular vibration?

>

> Cheers,

> Jeff

>

>

>

>