Guest guest Posted November 22, 2002 Report Share Posted November 22, 2002 This company appear to have a cheap price for bulk herbs http://www.phytolongevity.com/ - victoria_dragon Gettingwell Friday, November 22, 2002 7:10 AM Re: Supplements to use instead of Viagra, which ones? > I wanted to use some supplements that would give the similar effects > of Viagra. I use arginine. Is Saw Palmetto good for this? Please give > some suggestions. There are herbs - in particular the Yang tonic herbs - that have these effects. BUT, they should not be used unless the person actually is Yang Deficient. Taking too many Yang tonic herbs can result in a person developing symptoms of Yin Deficiency - restlessness, anxiety, insomnia, nervousness, night sweats, " malar " (blotchy) flushing of the face (particularly on the cheeks), diabetes (in some cases - particularly if the person already is Yin Deficient), etc. Yang warms, activates, and dries. One manifestatin of Yang Deficiency are hypo-glandular states. Another is loss of libido. When a person is Yang Deficient there is not enough Yang to warm the body properly. Consequently, the person stays cold a lot and has trouble warming up. The person usually does worst in winter healthwise, and prefers the summer. Urination is frequent, profuse, and clear. The person also may need more sleep than normal. Fatigue is extreme. Yin cools, calms, and moistens. In Yin Deficiency there is not enough Yin to propertly cool and calm the body. Hence, the feeling too hot a lot and having trouble cooling down. The person tends to do worse in summer than other seasons of the year and prefer the winter. Sexual drive is excessive. If there is Kidney Yang Deficiency, there will be fatigue, but this is a person who will keep going even though tired. Nervous energy. The TCM view of sex is that both too much or too little can harm health. Too much depletes the Kidney Yang and Jing. Too little also can damage the Kidneys. One example of a Yang tonic herb is epimedium, aka Herba Epimendii, aka Yin Yang Huo, aka Horny Goat Weed. It is specifically indicated not only in many cases of loss of libido (though Yang Deficiency is not the only possible cause of loss of libido) but also in cases of Wind Cold Dampness invasion and Painful Obstruction Syndrome. (Arthritis. The Chinese see arthritis and rheumatism (Painful Obstruction or Bi Syndrome as being due to Wind, Cold, and/or Dampness.) Epimendium is contraindicated in cases of Yin Deficiency with Heat. An overdose can result in spasm and respiratory arrest. The dose is 3-5 qian. That's 9 to 15 grams. The easiest way for most people to find epimedium is one of those herbal formulas for men or which advertise themselves as " herbal viagra " . There usually are other herbs as well in these preparations. Some of them are other Yang tonic herbs, some are not. BUT, women also can be Yang Deficient so these " men's formulas " are not just for men. Just like men can be Blood Deficient, and " women's formulas " aren't just for women. A store here offers pure epimedium in capsules, but wanted way, way too much for it. I order it like I order a lot of my herbs - in bulk. I prefer to make teas out of it instead of grind it up and put it into capsules. I have an on-going vulnerability and tendency to Kidney Yang Deficiency (way too Cold), and taking certain herbs as a hot tea works better for me than taking them in a capsule. Victoria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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