hemp and coconut meal/powders

[Guest guest]

Those of you with Ayurvedic familiarity for vata pacifying nourishing

uses of these things, or well educated in other ways about these

items, would you be so kind as to share? I love them personally, but

these are relatively new on the US market...and like soy used to be

rather the buz these days. Sometimes what sounds good may come up not

so, othertimes it is a boon.

 

In a culture here where everyone wants smoothies and the IN

ingredients, we are on our toes sometimes to adapt recipes to

Ayurvedic food combining, preparation methods, digestion and doshic

influences.

 

Coconut meal is not only with cooling properties, but soothing and

unctuous, and some protein. What would be best use for this or the

hemp, could they be suitable for later postpartum preparations?

 

Ysha

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Dear Ysha,

 

I cannot claim the depth of Ayurvedic knowledge

deserved for your question. Living in Hawaii now and

eating off the land, I've become more sensitive to

fresh vs packaged foods. Could the coconut meal

create ama since it is not fresh? The hemp, as I

understand it, is simply ground seed, so I would not

think the same concern applies. Thinking coconut was

a good thing when I arrived here eight months ago, I

drank fresh juice every day for a couple of months and

prepared fresh coconut milk with the meat. I thought

I'd arrived in heaven. Then I began to notice pain

each time I ate coconut and realized I'd formed an

allergy to it. What was good in a little dose became

problematic in a larger one, it seemed. The protein

powders concern me because 1) they are not fresh

food, and 2) they are very concentrated and I wonder

if they could be aggravating in long term use. When

babies sensitive digestive systems are concerned,

couldn't these same points also apply. These are my

questions rather than conclusions. I'd love to hear

more discussion on this topic.

 

Sincerely,

 

Kim Luchau lmt, ccst

Craniosacral Therapist

Kauai, Hawaii

808.822.4644

 

 

--- Ysha Oakes <AyurDoulas wrote:

 

> Those of you with Ayurvedic familiarity for vata

> pacifying nourishing

> uses of these things, or well educated in other ways

> about these

> items, would you be so kind as to share? I love

> them personally, but

> these are relatively new on the US market...and like

> soy used to be

> rather the buz these days. Sometimes what sounds

> good may come up not

> so, othertimes it is a boon.

>

> In a culture here where everyone wants smoothies and

> the IN

> ingredients, we are on our toes sometimes to adapt

> recipes to

> Ayurvedic food combining, preparation methods,

> digestion and doshic

> influences.

>

> Coconut meal is not only with cooling properties,

> but soothing and

> unctuous, and some protein. What would be best use

> for this or the

> hemp, could they be suitable for later postpartum

> preparations?

>

> Ysha

>

>

 

 

 

 

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jivani luchau <jivanimark wrote:

....Living in Hawaii now and eating off the land, I've become more

sensitive to fresh vs packaged foods. Could the coconut meal

> create ama since it is not fresh?

 

Good possibility in my mind, though I'm wondering about the fact

coconut doesn't go rancid in the way most other oils do, and my brief

exposure to it seemed very differnt from " protein powders " , whose ills

are well describe in the excellent first chapter of Sally Fallon's

book, Nourishing Traditions (this is not a vegetarian cookbook but a

great resource in many ways). How is this item processed? I don't

know. We eat dried nuts, grains, and other foods which are not

" freshly picked " ...so Im not sure what category this food fits in.

 

My 89 year old mother and I both found ourselves greatly attracted to

a jarred coconut preparation, sort of a spread when weather is warm

enough...low but some protein and of course rich in coconut fat and

flavor. (no sugar or additives). I think either the Weston Price

Foundation or the raw foodist people sell it. Nothing like fresh

young coconut water and the gelatinous meat though! Oh my, what a

treat. Babies eating solids seem to love it too. Easy enough to

balance with a little fresh ginger etc when agni is low and vata high,

and wonderful in a smoothie (you know how this country is about

smoothies!) option with strawberries grapefruit and avocado, someone

has served me.

 

>Certainly, The hemp, as I understand it, is simply ground seed, so I

>would not think the same concern applies. Thinking coconut was

> a good thing when I arrived here eight months ago, I drank fresh

>juice every day for a couple of months and prepared fresh coconut

>milk with the meat. I thought I'd arrived in heaven. Then I began

>to notice pain each time I ate coconut and realized I'd formed an

>allergy to it. What was good in a little dose became problematic in

>a larger one, it seemed.

 

It is amazing to me how people can stick to the same few foods every

day and expect them to always work for them. I tried similar,

learning the hard way too.

 

> powders concern me because 1) they are not fresh

> food, and 2) they are very concentrated and I wonder

> if they could be aggravating in long term use.

 

Seems they easily are not digested well, certainly as you say above

for both reasons, and taken cold temp and poor food combining can coat

the colon. They are so processed! ON rare occasions this body does

best among them with rice protein (having whey allergy and bloating

like a baloon almost before the food hits my stomach with soy), yet it

is only satisfying when well hydrated (warm water), sesame or ghee or

other oil added, spices for agni, and sweet or salt of course, but no

fruits! Everyone wants to add fruits, and yoghurt, often banana...Dr.

Lad surprises his students with guidance that long term use of dairy

and banana together is carcinogenic actually (undoubtedly from the ama

accumulations though undoubtedly also there is a more detailed

explanation). My tummy is so much happier observing this kind of

information!

 

> babies sensitive digestive systems are concerned, couldn't these

same points also apply.

Yes, this kind of thinking is good guide when choosing foods for them

as well as their (breastfeeding or not!) mothers.

 

I'm sure we have more resources about these foods to learn from...?

 

Thanks for sharing, Jivani;

 

Ysha

[Guest guest]

Hi,

 

Coconut has a little astringent taste (but mainly sweet) and it certainly is

cold (property), so it may obstruct normal flow of vata leading to pain -

just a possibility in your case as there may be other causes.

 

Here in Pune, MH, India we have an interesting recipe for coconut called

'Solkadhi.' We use Kokum (*Garcinia indica* ) which is sour (though does

not increase pitta - very useful quality) and coconut milk - boil it

(reduces cold property). Some herbs and there you are.

 

Here is the recipe

 

Contents:

 

600 gm fresh coconut grated or 600ml readymade coconut milk

6 x kokam

1 tsp garlic paste

2 tbl coriander leaves chopped finely

salt

 

 

Method :

Add 600ml of water to the fresh coconut and grind in a blender.

Squeeze out the thick coconut milk and repeat the process with 300ml of

water.

Add the second milk to the first and discard the residue.

Add the rest of the ingredients to the coconut milk mix well and allow to

stand for 20 minutes.

Remove the kokum squeeze the juice from it into the curry and discard if the

curry is pink and fairly sour If it is not leave the kokum in for longer.

Stir well before serving cold with rice.

This recipe is a refreshing light curry that is sometimes served as a

starter and is a classic accompaniment to rice and fried fish.

Serves 4

 

Lastly, I liked the phrase eating off the land!

 

Regards,

Dr. Thite

 

 

On 8/16/07, jivani luchau <jivanimark wrote:

>

> Dear Ysha,

>

> I cannot claim the depth of Ayurvedic knowledge

> deserved for your question. Living in Hawaii now and

> eating off the land, I've become more sensitive to

> fresh vs packaged foods. Could the coconut meal

> create ama since it is not fresh? The hemp, as I

> understand it, is simply ground seed, so I would not

> think the same concern applies. Thinking coconut was

> a good thing when I arrived here eight months ago, I

> drank fresh juice every day for a couple of months and

> prepared fresh coconut milk with the meat. I thought

> I'd arrived in heaven. Then I began to notice pain

> each time I ate coconut and realized I'd formed an

> allergy to it. What was good in a little dose became

> problematic in a larger one, it seemed. The protein

> powders concern me because 1) they are not fresh

> food, and 2) they are very concentrated and I wonder

> if they could be aggravating in long term use. When

> babies sensitive digestive systems are concerned,

> couldn't these same points also apply. These are my

> questions rather than conclusions. I'd love to hear

> more discussion on this topic.

>

> Sincerely,

>

> Kim Luchau lmt, ccst

> Craniosacral Therapist

> Kauai, Hawaii

> 808.822.4644

>

> --- Ysha Oakes <AyurDoulas <AyurDoulas%40gmail.com>> wrote:

>

> > Those of you with Ayurvedic familiarity for vata

> > pacifying nourishing

> > uses of these things, or well educated in other ways

> > about these

> > items, would you be so kind as to share? I love

> > them personally, but

> > these are relatively new on the US market...and like

> > soy used to be

> > rather the buz these days. Sometimes what sounds

> > good may come up not

> > so, othertimes it is a boon.

> >

> > In a culture here where everyone wants smoothies and

> > the IN

> > ingredients, we are on our toes sometimes to adapt

> > recipes to

> > Ayurvedic food combining, preparation methods,

> > digestion and doshic

> > influences.

> >

> > Coconut meal is not only with cooling properties,

> > but soothing and

> > unctuous, and some protein. What would be best use

> > for this or the

> > hemp, could they be suitable for later postpartum

> > preparations?

> >

> > Ysha

> >

> >

>

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> knows. Answers - Check it out.

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[Guest guest]

I know next to nothing about coconut except that I love it. A little too

cooling for me since I am a vata person.

However what you just described to us about becoming allergic to the

coconut after a few months of eating it every day, says to me, that you have

what some folks have coined with the term " leaky gut syndrome " . This can be

caused by antibiotics and /or a gluten intolerance. Both make the gut very

permeable and molecules of whatever you are eating can get into your blood

stream without being digested properly. Hence, you then become allergic to

whatever you are eating the most of. In the case of my daughter she became

allergic to gluten after eating antibiotics when she was 3. She had stomach

aches and no one new what it was.

 

Since it was undiagnosed, she eventually came down with symtoms of arthritus at

age 15 and was diagnosed with Lupus when she was 16. Interestingly, she had

developed a rash for 3 years before that, which the doctors never attributed to

allergies to foods. As soon as I got tomatoes out of her diet the rash

dissappeared.

 

What to do. Heal the gut and rotate your foods so that you can't become

allergic to the foods you eat. I am sure many of you have seen or heard of

folks who's list of foods they are allergic to seems to grow bigger every year.

The " leaky gut syndrome " is very likely the cause. For my daughter, it was

the first piece of information that actually made much sense for unraveling the

mystery of the Lupus. She has been (mostly) gluten free for 8 years and it

does help.

 

Just wanted to add another perspective Dona Smith

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[Guest guest]

Hi Dr. THite;

 

Yes, most of us have never heard of Kokum nor have access, and I am

wondering if it might be same as amalaki but probably not, though it

also is sour without heating). And if something we have might

substitue in your recipe, such as lime?

 

So this is curiouser still - boiling the coconut milk with kokum

reduces the cold property, even though kokum is not pitta increasing.

Is it the boiling and garlic which are balancing? Sounds like a

lovely curry.

 

Warm Regards;

Ysha

 

> Here in Pune, MH, India we have an interesting recipe for coconut

called 'Solkadhi.' We use Kokum (*Garcinia indica* ) which is sour

(though does not increase pitta - very useful quality) and coconut milk

[Guest guest]

One Correction in my post - To make Solkadhi, coconut milk is not boiled.

 

(The thought of boiling just occured to me to modify property, but not very

sure about this).

 

regards,

Dr. Thite

 

 

 

 

On 8/18/07, Ysha Oakes <AyurDoulas wrote:

>

> Hi Dr. THite;

>

> Yes, most of us have never heard of Kokum nor have access, and I am

> wondering if it might be same as amalaki but probably not, though it

> also is sour without heating). And if something we have might

> substitue in your recipe, such as lime?

>

> So this is curiouser still - boiling the coconut milk with kokum

> reduces the cold property, even though kokum is not pitta increasing.

> Is it the boiling and garlic which are balancing? Sounds like a

> lovely curry.

>

> Warm Regards;

> Ysha

>

> > Here in Pune, MH, India we have an interesting recipe for coconut

> called 'Solkadhi.' We use Kokum (*Garcinia indica* ) which is sour

> (though does not increase pitta - very useful quality) and coconut milk

>

>

>