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Hello,

I have a 6 week old baby that has been coughing for a few days.

She is also VERY mucousy. My 2 youngest boys have the same cough, so I

think she got it from them.

I have been taking care of myself and eating, pretty much, accordingly

to the postpartum protocol for ayurveda.

I have been advised by an ayurvedic practitioner to take sitopaldi in

honey myself, and also give a smear of honey with just a grain of the

sitopaladi on it the baby.

I also have been putting essential oils on her....

What else can I do?

It is cold and wet here in Australia.....

maybe it's just the time of year for these kind of things.

I appreciate any help with this!

Esther Shubin

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Hello

 

It seems obvious that your breast milk is vitiated mostly due to kapha. Also,

there could be kapha/ama accumulation/vitiation in the fetus during

pregnancy. Climate sure can be one of the causes. Also, similar illness in

other family members may cause or stimulate the prior accumulation/vitiation

of kapha or other doshas.

 

There are methods of testing breast milk, e.g., color, smell, etc. Also put

a drop of breast milk it into a glass of water and see if it spreads easily.

If not, it is vitiated with picchila guna, i.e., stickiness. In this case,

a herb called bibhitak gives good results because bibhitak has property

called 'vishad guna', i.e., a property which is exactly opposite to picchila

or styana guna.

 

Similarly kapha can be vitiated with other gunas such as snighda, sheeta,

guru, manda, slakshna, and sthira. Use of herbs/minerals with exactly

opposite properties can help reduce kapha accordingly. Same logic can be

used for other doshas. (for details, see-

http://www.ayurvedicrx.com/Article%20Vimshati%20Gunas.htm)

 

Apart from this, there are certain herb groups that are known to act on

breast milk.

 

1. Stanyashodhan gana: These herbs are known to have cleansing action on

breast milk – e.g., dashamula –breast milk vitiated with vata ; shatavari,

sariva, etc. for breast milk vitiated with pitta, and devadaru, shunthi,

etc. for breast milk vitiated with kapha.

 

2. Stanyajanan gana – These herbs increase milk production.

 

 

Dr. Thite

 

 

Hello,

I have a 6 week old baby that has been coughing for a few days.

She is also VERY mucousy. My 2 youngest boys have the same cough, so I

think she got it from them.

I have been taking care of myself and eating, pretty much, accordingly

to the postpartum protocol for ayurveda.

I have been advised by an ayurvedic practitioner to take sitopaldi in

honey myself, and also give a smear of honey with just a grain of the

sitopaladi on it the baby.

I also have been putting essential oils on her....

What else can I do?

It is cold and wet here in Australia.....

maybe it's just the time of year for these kind of things.

I appreciate any help with this!

Esther Shubin

 

 

 

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HI Esther -

 

HOpefully things are on the mend? Probably some of these comments are

obvious, certainly still valuable. The postpartum nutrition of course

is designed, WITH proper agni, to rebuild which encourages healthy

kapha. In these conditions you are experiencing, internal and climate

wise, you want to favor influences in the food that are more warming,

spicy, digestive, and also reduce the kaphagenics somewhat.

 

I had the great advice in similar situation, when I also got quite ill

with a 4 month old baby, to fast 2-3 days on warm (roasted) tahini

milk. Just a couple tablespoons of tahini, large cup hot water, 2

pinches cardamom, optional tsp lecithin and sweeten with agave or

honey in this case; blend well. You may add pinches nutmeg or other

spices as appropriate, and serve the children and husband too.

 

My milk supply stayed nice and level and no phlegm. Of course, and in

2 days I was gradually eating more diverse menu again. we advise

soups with broths, and minimize most creamy things and minimize

fasting as even a thought while breastfeeding. Ayurveda refers to

many ways to " fast " without loosing nutritional intake however, and

soups and tahini milk may be so considered, to give your body a rest

and still receive needed nutrients. You can lean away from the ghee

and favor sesame or mustard oil also while needed, and to help find

your balance with yourself and the family. If dairy is desired, just

use garlic milk (away from other meals) for immune and vata reducing

support together.

 

Depending on more info about your body type and vikruti, I would be

using perhaps some version of trikatu or 1/2 tsp turmeric and ginger

in honey paste, for phlegmy coughs, after meals if the sitopoladi does

not seem strong enough. Which essential oils are you using?

 

kapha/ama accumulation even in pregnancy would advise longer

attentions and balancing to your diet now; can you see a local

ayurvedic practitioner? After 6 -8 weeks postpartum, a gentle version

of home panchakarma cleansing even can be undertaken, according to my

lineage, or other simpler measures until you are ready.

 

IT is so great to have this big picture view from an Ayurvedic

physician - thank you Dr. Thite for many valuable comments.

 

Ysha

 

> It seems obvious that your breast milk is vitiated mostly due to

kapha. Also, there could be kapha/ama accumulation/vitiation in the

fetus during pregnancy. Climate sure can be one of the causes. Also,

similar illness in other family members may cause or stimulate the

prior accumulation/vitiation of kapha or other doshas.

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>> Ysha, a 6 week old baby should never be coughing. no matter what the

>> breastmilk is like, no matter, allergies. they don't get coughs at that age.

>> i hope she takes baby to doctor if that is happening.

>>

>> Vicky York, IBCLC, CPD

>> Postpartum Care Services

>> Portland, Oregon

>> http://mypeoplepc.com/members/vmyork/

>> www.ikarma.com/user/vmyork

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>> ** *To:* ayurveda

>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 24, 2008 3:57 PM

>> *Subject:* Re: PerinatalAyurveda forum cough in 6 week oil baby

>>

>> HI Esther -

>>

>> HOpefully things are on the mend? Probably some of these comments are

>> obvious, certainly still valuable. The postpartum nutrition of course

>> is designed, WITH proper agni, to rebuild which encourages healthy

>> kapha. In these conditions you are experiencing, internal and climate

>> wise, you want to favor influences in the food that are more warming,

>> spicy, digestive, and also reduce the kaphagenics somewhat.

>>

>> I had the great advice in similar situation, when I also got quite ill

>> with a 4 month old baby, to fast 2-3 days on warm (roasted) tahini

>> milk. Just a couple tablespoons of tahini, large cup hot water, 2

>> pinches cardamom, optional tsp lecithin and sweeten with agave or

>> honey in this case; blend well. You may add pinches nutmeg or other

>> spices as appropriate, and serve the children and husband too.

>>

>> My milk supply stayed nice and level and no phlegm. Of course, and in

>> 2 days I was gradually eating more diverse menu again. we advise

>> soups with broths, and minimize most creamy things and minimize

>> fasting as even a thought while breastfeeding. Ayurveda refers to

>> many ways to " fast " without loosing nutritional intake however, and

>> soups and tahini milk may be so considered, to give your body a rest

>> and still receive needed nutrients. You can lean away from the ghee

>> and favor sesame or mustard oil also while needed, and to help find

>> your balance with yourself and the family. If dairy is desired, just

>> use garlic milk (away from other meals) for immune and vata reducing

>> support together.

>>

>> Depending on more info about your body type and vikruti, I would be

>> using perhaps some version of trikatu or 1/2 tsp turmeric and ginger

>> in honey paste, for phlegmy coughs, after meals if the sitopoladi does

>> not seem strong enough. Which essential oils are you using?

>>

>> kapha/ama accumulation even in pregnancy would advise longer

>> attentions and balancing to your diet now; can you see a local

>> ayurvedic practitioner? After 6 -8 weeks postpartum, a gentle version

>> of home panchakarma cleansing even can be undertaken, according to my

>> lineage, or other simpler measures until you are ready.

>>

>> IT is so great to have this big picture view from an Ayurvedic

>> physician - thank you Dr. Thite for many valuable comments.

>>

>> Ysha

>>

>> > It seems obvious that your breast milk is vitiated mostly due to

>> kapha. Also, there could be kapha/ama accumulation/vitiation in the

>> fetus during pregnancy. Climate sure can be one of the causes. Also,

>> similar illness in other family members may cause or stimulate the

>> prior accumulation/vitiation of kapha or other doshas.

>>

>>

>>

>>

>

>

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Thanks for posting, Vicki.

 

I agree, this is wise and appropriately legal advice too. I was not

aware that is true, that babies don't get coughs that age, and will

appreciate hearing from midwives, nurses, or doctors any other such

advice of course, so we properly represent good advice. Is this a

sign of some very serious red flag illness with young babies which I

do'nt know about? IN any case, if an invading organism is apparent

cause, we are also very wise to support the body to deal with it from

strength and balance. Nice little words that mean a lot, as you can tell.

 

I actually did not say anything initially as it is out of my scope of

practice to assume responsibility for advice in this case. My

suggestions dietarily etc are offered as supportives behind the

medical doctor's, such as Dr. Thite's, and I should have made that

clear.

 

From what I've seen and learned, the qualities of nature which create

cough and illness, aside from invading organism, and even to some

significant extent therein can be worked with to prevent and reverse

bodily conditoins which feed or make it difficult for the illness I

believe this is being discussed responsibly aside from our

responsibilty to always see your primary physician.

 

so I want you to know that in respect of your tremendous experience

with many more babies than myself of this older age range also, and

your different training, my request for you to post your opinion as

you had emailed privately was very sincere.

 

I can't help thinking about, wondering what will a doctor do for this

possible high risk situation you are seeing - antibiotics? If there

is some special risk factor at this age, they may have important

assessment and special gifts therein certainly.

 

Allopathy is tremendous expert at crisis care, saving lives and

assessing things sometimes on that level with names and specificity

Ayurveda does not have, including some patterns and problems specific

to modern life. Ayurveda also is able to identify issues and

specificity allopathy does not have access to, in the first 3-4 stages

of the disease process, and prevent the otherwise more aggressive

treatments. So there are the team self-assignments as I see them.

 

Yes, qualities in the breastmilk CAN create mucous and disease feeding

conditions (ama) as well as tendencies to allergy in the baby

(particularly given uterine developmental conditions) no matter what

the contemporary approach with lactation training says. AS Dr. Thite

explained, it can then make the baby more vulnerable and need to

consult a doctor or qualified natural health practioner.

 

Esther mentioned using essential oils and I didn't ask which ones, or

how. However, some of the ones she has are well researched to be as

or more effective than antibiotics, with antiviral, antitussive, fever

and or chill support than the allopathic options, and quicker acting

than herbs (which have lost about 95% of their eoils in dehydration

though may have other properties). Some of them are particularly

supportive to help the body burn ama - yes, the baby's body, used

dilute on the tummy or feet, for instance. They are also shown to not

give the negative side effects of antibiotics, properly used being

much safer and kinder. I have personally seen many applications of

this with babies, to everyone's relief and delight.

 

Warm Regards,

Ysha

 

> >> Ysha, a 6 week old baby should never be coughing. no matter what

the breastmilk is like, no matter, allergies. they don't get coughs at

that age. i hope she takes baby to doctor if that is happening.

> >>

> >> Vicky York, IBCLC, CPD

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Dear Friends -

 

Dr. Thite's response is quite appropriate for those of us who are more

serious students of Ayurveda, and I'm wondering how many, especially

Esther, are mystified? I'd love to hear who is listening and your

opinions. We have a really diverse group here, and want it to serve

mothers, not just be interesting to practitioners. I think our

vaidyas understand I'm not picking on them.

 

Warmly,

Ysha

 

> It seems obvious that your breast milk is vitiated mostly due to

kapha. Also, there could be kapha/ama accumulation/vitiation in the

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As a lactation consultant, and not an MD, I can't say what all could cause a

cough or how to treat it from an allopathic standpoint, and I am not minimizing

Dr. Thites valuable input about the breastmilk, which no doubt is more than the

medical doctors are even aware of (or lactation consultants:) and should also be

considered. But I believe it would be wise to rule out anything bacterial with

the baby's lungs at the same time. Breastfed babies usually don't catch viruses,

especially so early, the breastmilk containing so many antibodies. After a few

weeks they do, and then it is mild. Even if they have allergies, they usually

manifest as rashes, runny noses, etc. but I just haven't seen such tiny ones

coughing.

Vicky

 

 

>Ysha Oakes <AyurDoulas

>Aug 25, 2008 1:24 PM

>ayurveda

>PerinatalAyurveda forum Re: cough in 6 week oil baby

>

>Dear Friends -

>

>Dr. Thite's response is quite appropriate for those of us who are more

>serious students of Ayurveda, and I'm wondering how many, especially

>Esther, are mystified? I'd love to hear who is listening and your

>opinions. We have a really diverse group here, and want it to serve

>mothers, not just be interesting to practitioners. I think our

>vaidyas understand I'm not picking on them.

>

>Warmly,

>Ysha

>

>> It seems obvious that your breast milk is vitiated mostly due to

>kapha. Also, there could be kapha/ama accumulation/vitiation in the

>

 

 

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ayurveda , Vicky York <VMYORK

wrote:

>

> As a lactation consultant, and not an MD, I can't say what all

could cause a cough or how to treat it from an allopathic

standpoint, and I am not minimizing Dr. Thites valuable input about

the breastmilk, which no doubt is more than the medical doctors are

even aware of (or lactation consultants:) and should also be

considered. But I believe it would be wise to rule out anything

bacterial with the baby's lungs at the same time. Breastfed babies

usually don't catch viruses, especially so early, the breastmilk

containing so many antibodies. After a few weeks they do, and then

it is mild. Even if they have allergies, they usually manifest as

rashes, runny noses, etc. but I just haven't seen such tiny ones

coughing.

> Vicky

>

>

> >Ysha Oakes <AyurDoulas

> >Aug 25, 2008 1:24 PM

> >ayurveda

> >PerinatalAyurveda forum Re: cough in 6 week oil baby

> >

> >Dear Friends -

> >

> >Dr. Thite's response is quite appropriate for those of us who are

more

> >serious students of Ayurveda, and I'm wondering how many,

especially

> >Esther, are mystified? I'd love to hear who is listening and your

> >opinions. We have a really diverse group here, and want it to

serve

> >mothers, not just be interesting to practitioners. I think our

> >vaidyas understand I'm not picking on them.

> >

> >Warmly,

> >Ysha

> >

> >> It seems obvious that your breast milk is vitiated mostly due to

> >kapha. Also, there could be kapha/ama accumulation/vitiation in

the

> >

>

>

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ayurveda , " momedwnunder "

<heritagemummy wrote:

> Hello, sorry for my last post..pushed the 'send' button without

properly thinking.

I am open to all suggestions and recomendations.

I want to, first, post here a few responses to the other posts.

I did the breastmilk in the water...the milk dispurses right away.

As for oils I have been using... Immupower and Thieves diluted 20/80

on her feet. On chest and aound her neck and on back...idaho balsalm

fir, lavender, 20/80 dilution of purification. This has seemed to

help the cough from being painful in the throat area.She ran a fever

Sunday, Sunday night, she seemed better on Monday.( today is Tuesday

here)

She is bright eyed, alert, responsive, calm....just the cough.

I have a friend whose baby is now 5 weeks old. She started coughing

at 2 weeks old. They took her in twice since then.The doctor says

she is too young to be given anything for it. He also said that

here, in South Australia, because where we live it does not hit

freezing temperatures, it is pretty common for young babies to be

coughing. I guess he meant the freezing temperature would kill

different bacteria and such.

The ayurvedic practitioner I took her to has not seemed very

concerned about it. He has just emphasised her recieving what she

needs for it through my milk. He did say if it does not go away, he

has some stronger herbs I can take for it.

I am new to ayurvedic perspective, but so far impressed with the

results.

I am putting effort into what I eat and such, so if I need to change

some of what I eat or do, I would like to know.

Thank you for all this effort from who has responded.

Esther Shubin

I

 

 

> ayurveda , Vicky York <VMYORK@>

> wrote:

> >

> > As a lactation consultant, and not an MD, I can't say what all

> could cause a cough or how to treat it from an allopathic

> standpoint, and I am not minimizing Dr. Thites valuable input

about

> the breastmilk, which no doubt is more than the medical doctors

are

> even aware of (or lactation consultants:) and should also be

> considered. But I believe it would be wise to rule out anything

> bacterial with the baby's lungs at the same time. Breastfed babies

> usually don't catch viruses, especially so early, the breastmilk

> containing so many antibodies. After a few weeks they do, and then

> it is mild. Even if they have allergies, they usually manifest as

> rashes, runny noses, etc. but I just haven't seen such tiny ones

> coughing.

> > Vicky

> >

> >

> > >Ysha Oakes <AyurDoulas@>

> > >Aug 25, 2008 1:24 PM

> > >ayurveda

> > >PerinatalAyurveda forum Re: cough in 6 week oil baby

> > >

> > >Dear Friends -

> > >

> > >Dr. Thite's response is quite appropriate for those of us who

are

> more

> > >serious students of Ayurveda, and I'm wondering how many,

> especially

> > >Esther, are mystified? I'd love to hear who is listening and

your

> > >opinions. We have a really diverse group here, and want it to

> serve

> > >mothers, not just be interesting to practitioners. I think our

> > >vaidyas understand I'm not picking on them.

> > >

> > >Warmly,

> > >Ysha

> > >

> > >> It seems obvious that your breast milk is vitiated mostly due

to

> > >kapha. Also, there could be kapha/ama accumulation/vitiation

in

> the

> > >

> >

> >

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Hi Esther -

 

The milk in water test sounds like your kapha is not bad. With the

cold wet weather, kapha is naturally increased, so emphasis dietarily

has to be on reducing both to some extent for the family, and the gift

of the plant oils and herbs help so much. Does sound like probably

viral or bacterial addition and I would be playing with the

respiratory support oils too, many help with both, with phlegm if the

cough is phlegmy. Lots more could be said and I have to go - check

online or book resources for foods and post your specific questons

here about them? Very interesting report on climate factors there.

Does mold become an issue?

 

Blessings, Ysha

 

> here, in South Australia, because where we live it does not hit

> freezing temperatures, it is pretty common for young babies to be

> coughing. I guess he meant the freezing temperature would kill

> different bacteria and such.

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thank you for mentioning mold, Ysha.

Vicky

 

 

>Ysha Oakes <AyurDoulas

>Aug 27, 2008 9:06 AM

>ayurveda

>PerinatalAyurveda forum Re: cough in 6 week oil baby

>

>Hi Esther -

>

>The milk in water test sounds like your kapha is not bad. With the

>cold wet weather, kapha is naturally increased, so emphasis dietarily

>has to be on reducing both to some extent for the family, and the gift

>of the plant oils and herbs help so much. Does sound like probably

>viral or bacterial addition and I would be playing with the

>respiratory support oils too, many help with both, with phlegm if the

>cough is phlegmy. Lots more could be said and I have to go - check

>online or book resources for foods and post your specific questons

>here about them? Very interesting report on climate factors there.

>Does mold become an issue?

>

>Blessings, Ysha

>

>> here, in South Australia, because where we live it does not hit

>> freezing temperatures, it is pretty common for young babies to be

>> coughing. I guess he meant the freezing temperature would kill

>> different bacteria and such.

>

 

 

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ayurveda , " Ysha Oakes "

<AyurDoulas wrote:

> So what I need to understand is what part of the postpartum diet

do I revise and how.

I eat alot of rice puddings. Date shakes with soaked almonds. mung

dahl soups. What is good to omit or add.

Esther

> Hi Esther -

>

> The milk in water test sounds like your kapha is not bad. With the

> cold wet weather, kapha is naturally increased, so emphasis

dietarily

> has to be on reducing both to some extent for the family, and the

gift

> of the plant oils and herbs help so much. Does sound like probably

> viral or bacterial addition and I would be playing with the

> respiratory support oils too, many help with both, with phlegm if

the

> cough is phlegmy. Lots more could be said and I have to go - check

> online or book resources for foods and post your specific questons

> here about them? Very interesting report on climate factors

there.

> Does mold become an issue?

>

> Blessings, Ysha

>

> > here, in South Australia, because where we live it does not hit

> > freezing temperatures, it is pretty common for young babies to

be

> > coughing. I guess he meant the freezing temperature would kill

> > different bacteria and such.

>

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Hi Esther -

 

This will get added to somewhere in my cookbook - thanks for the exercise.

 

Instead of alot of basmati rice puddings - For reducing kapha while

protecting your high caloric and vata reducing needs, you will likely

want to work with the following ideas - all adjustments on the

puddings style, which can be applied conceptually with other foods too .

 

Use Less, and dryer and more solid. Adjust back if needed to prevent

constipation. You can dry roast your grains for less kapha also.

 

Opt for making with Quinoa, Millet or brown rice perhaps, well cooked.

 

Make without milk or cream and keep ample clearer fat such as ghee

instead of any butter used, preferring warming and astringent sesame

oil perhaps.

 

Use more/stronger spices, including clove, pepper, ginger, and

whatever else appeals. Turmeric is also very yummy here and immune

supportive in multiple ways, making a golden colored pudding.

 

Choose a less kapha increasing and more warming sweetener, such as

honey (add at serving, don't cook with it), agave, molasses, or even

jaggery if you have been favoring the lighter ones, and see how it feels.

 

Always serve hot or warm temperature, and freshly cooked that day as

you know already. If you are eating leftovers the next day, this can

lower immune strength.

 

In general for sweets on the short term if you are feeling compromised

and/or wanting to support Baby,

 

lean more on hot stewed fruits such as apples and raisins instead of

puddings and baked or carb/sugar/rat rich sweets.

perhaps some freshly squeezed orange or pineapple juice if it appeals

- these warm and cleanse. Vitamin C is good.

The high antioxidant juices if only fruit and taken not chilled, will

also serve.

Or warm a teaspoon of ghee with 4-5 dates or other dried fruits in

small skillet with pinches black pepper and cardamom. Optionally

include a few cashews or almonds dry roasted in the pan. Enjoy warm,

for ojas building and quick higher caloric/low phlegm producing snack.

Your healthy instincts will guide you which choice is best this time.

 

Also,

Favor more soups with less starchy vegetables, and take dahls thinner

again, with more spicing such as well cooked garlic, and pinches of

cayenne perhaps.

 

For your Date shakes with soaked almonds, don't use dairy milk with

them. Use sometimes just some honey or agave instead of dates, and up

the spices, perhaps a pinch or two of black pepper or I prefer

pippali. Or make tahini milk instead; tahini is more astringent and

even less phlegm producing than almond milk.

 

Snack on a few roasted nuts if needing more solid/protein snacking fare.

 

Keep a thermous of hot ginger/fennel/fenugreek tea handy - weaker like

1 tsp herbs in 2 quarts, allows it use for hydration too, instead of

drinking room temp or cold water. Try drinking just hot temperature

liquids for 2 days and see how you feel...

 

You see why it is taking me time to do the cookbook! It is not easy

to know when to shut up. Every recipe has so many ways to play with

it depending upon the need. The Ayurvedic kitchen medicine is a

tremendous palette of many balancing influences from multiple recipe

components along with great flavor and color!

 

The feels good deliciousness tend to go together when we are restoring

balance too. This is fun and empowering to mothers to play with these

things for herself and family, and every Mother should have Ayurveda

for this reason :) Tell us how it works for you, ok?

 

Love,

Ysha

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Yes, in damp climate of course it grows well...and the two most toxic

types can be high health risks in a home. It is good to assess what

type is there by a professional, if that is an obvious presence.

 

The strong agni supportive oils help the body handle it better, I

don't know specific Ayurvedic protocols there. The oils of cinnamon,

clove, rosemary, lemon as found under low temp/low pressure

distillation in the YOung Living blend called Thieves, and

preencapsulated in product called Inner Defense for internal use along

with thyme, oregano and cystis, have been proven to be most effective

by Dr. David Close, mold remediation expert for decades, in part of

protocol to kill the toxic molds.

 

Ysha

 

> thank you for mentioning mold, Ysha.

> Vicky

>

>

> >Ysha Oakes <AyurDoulas

> >Aug 27, 2008 9:06 AM

> >ayurveda

> >PerinatalAyurveda forum Re: cough in 6 week oil baby

> >

> >Hi Esther -

> >

> >The milk in water test sounds like your kapha is not bad. With the

> >cold wet weather, kapha is naturally increased, so emphasis dietarily

> >has to be on reducing both to some extent for the family, and the gift

> >of the plant oils and herbs help so much. Does sound like probably

> >viral or bacterial addition and I would be playing with the

> >respiratory support oils too, many help with both, with phlegm if the

> >cough is phlegmy. Lots more could be said and I have to go - check

> >online or book resources for foods and post your specific questons

> >here about them? Very interesting report on climate factors there.

> >Does mold become an issue?

> >

> >Blessings, Ysha

> >

> >> here, in South Australia, because where we live it does not hit

> >> freezing temperatures, it is pretty common for young babies to be

> >> coughing. I guess he meant the freezing temperature would kill

> >> different bacteria and such.

> >

>

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