Guest guest Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 I remember us playing this years ago!!!! Mogra Rhus Kus Lime ( Steam distilled) Ginger Plai Coriander Lavender Manuka Sandalwood Rose and of course lots of Avocado oil for my skin, and someone great to rub it on my back and light fires, catch fish etc...if I was on a desert island....... BTW, I've got one very excited husband watching the new Boeing 787 go through its manouvers (?) , hopefully he will be one of the first to fly it Cheers Jeanine On 16/12/2009, at 8:41 PM, staceymst3k wrote: > I keep getting this question, so here's my current list of Top 10 EO's for a beginner to play with. (In no particular order.) > > Lavender > Peppermint > Tea Tree > Eucalyptus > Geranium > Rosemary > Clary Sage > Bergamot (with restrictions!) > Lemon > Oregano > > What are your Top 10? > > Good night, > Stacey > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Thyme linalol Ravensara E. radiata Niaouli Lavender Tea Tree Lemon Palmarosa R. chamomile G. chamomile Jessica, NC Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Hi My Top 10 suggestions are: Lavender Bergamot FCF Clary Sage Eucalyptus Grapefruit Lemon Peppermint Rosemary Tea Tree Ylang ylang Penny Your One Stop Aromatherapy Shop! Birch Hill Happenings Aromatherapy LLC 100% Pure Essential oils and Supplies http://birchhillhappenings.com/aroma1.htm Holiday Sale! now til Jan 1, 2010 ATFE , " staceymst3k " <millerslm1 wrote: > > I keep getting this question, so here's my current list of Top 10 EO's for a beginner to play with. (In no particular order.) > > Lavender > Peppermint > Tea Tree > Eucalyptus > Geranium > Rosemary > Clary Sage > Bergamot (with restrictions!) > Lemon > Oregano > > What are your Top 10? > > Good night, > Stacey > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Except for the mentioned > Lavender > Tea Tree > Eucalyptus > Geranium > Rosemary I would add Thyme (carvacrol or thymol type), especially now in these flu times and generally in winter and with colds around, to prevent contamination and treat respiratory and pulmonary affections. To be used with care though, always well diluted.. Laurel leaf, Laurus nobilis, for its generally illuminating effects psychologically, its enhancing activity on clarity of thought and concentration, its regenerating action on skin and hair cosmetically, as well as for its beautiful scent and relative safety regarding external/olfactory use. My personal favorite... Myrtle leaf, Myrtus communis, for its exquisite perfume and gentle safe use, also with children, aiding respiration and a sound sleep, its activity in calming nervous tensions.. Cypress, Cupresseus sempervirens for its stoic calming aqnd centering effect, well liked by men as well, for its effectivity with nasal constrictions, rhyme and phlegma, varicose veins.. Regards Janina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 This made me think of the first oils I ever used. It must have been somewhere around 1968, a year after I got hold of Valnet's book, which was my bible. Basil Clove Cypress Geranium Hyssop Lavender Rosemary Sandalwood Thyme Ylang-ylang I did also have some Rose de mai absolute, and probably lemon. There were no safety issues concerning basil or hyssop. In fact, there were no safety issues at all. Except, Marguerite Maury wrote that oils containing terpenes had to be deterpenated, as the terpenes were toxic. The only piece of safety advice, and it was wrong. But I didn't know that then. And there was no tea tree oil - modern production did not start until the early 70s, and it remained unknown in Europe for about another 10 years. Robert ATFE , " staceymst3k " <millerslm1 wrote: > > I keep getting this question, so here's my current list of Top 10 EO's for a beginner to play with. (In no particular order.) > > Lavender > Peppermint > Tea Tree > Eucalyptus > Geranium > Rosemary > Clary Sage > Bergamot (with restrictions!) > Lemon > Oregano > > What are your Top 10? > > Good night, > Stacey > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Jean Valnets book, as well as your (Robert Tisserands) translation of Gattefosse, and later actually, and mainly the book by Phillippe Mailhebiau, " La nouvelle aromathérapie - Caractérologie des essences et tempéraments humains " , the french edition of 1994, which we found by accident in a Parisian bookstore that same year it was published, in 1994, where the books that inspired us to start distilling.... Phillippe Mailhebiau's book has been translated to english, however, that translation doesn't contain any of the information, the experience of distillation, that the original edition conveys... Anyone interested in distillation, information thats difficult to obtain, is found in this original edition.. You'll have to read french though.. and find a copy. Back then, his book was a lot of help for us, for someone wanting to distill..even though, he seems to be despised nowadays by others... xxx janina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Rose Jasmine (not an EO, but well, there ya go....) Greek Sage (Salvia fruticosa) Neroli Juniper Berry Lavender Petigrain Black Pepper Ginger Palmarosa. (are we doing favorites or most useful? lol) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 OK Jeanine now you got me - Rhus Kus... I know I've been out of the loop for a while but..I think you made this one up - lol We need a full description including botanical name and a virtual sample to smell... 8-} Liz (scratching head and googling like mad...) 2009/12/16 David & Jeanine Moss <d.j.moss: > I remember us playing this years ago!!!! > Mogra > Rhus Kus > Lime ( Steam distilled) > Ginger > Plai > Coriander > Lavender > Manuka > Sandalwood > Rose > and of course lots of Avocado oil for my skin, and someone great to rub it on my back and light fires, catch fish etc...if I was on a desert island....... > > BTW, I've got one very excited husband watching the new Boeing 787 go through its manouvers (?) , hopefully he will be one of the first to fly it > Cheers > Jeanine > > On 16/12/2009, at 8:41 PM, staceymst3k wrote: > >> I keep getting this question, so here's my current list of Top 10 EO's for a beginner to play with. (In no particular order.) >> >> Lavender >> Peppermint >> Tea Tree >> Eucalyptus >> Geranium >> Rosemary >> Clary Sage >> Bergamot (with restrictions!) >> Lemon >> Oregano >> >> What are your Top 10? >> >> Good night, >> Stacey >> >> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 My top 10, in no particular order: Basil Frankincense Lavender Peppermint Ginger Roman Chamomile Clary Sage Clove Sage Lemongrass ATFE , Liz <liztams wrote: > > OK Jeanine now you got me - Rhus Kus... I know I've been out of the > loop for a while but..I think you made this one up - lol > We need a full description including botanical name and a virtual > sample to smell... 8-} > Liz > (scratching head and googling like mad...) > > > > 2009/12/16 David & Jeanine Moss <d.j.moss: > > I remember us playing this years ago!!!! > > Mogra > > Rhus Kus > > Lime ( Steam distilled) > > Ginger > > Plai > > Coriander > > Lavender > > Manuka > > Sandalwood > > Rose > > and of course lots of Avocado oil for my skin, and someone great to rub it on my back and light fires, catch fish etc...if I was on a desert island....... > > > > BTW, I've got one very excited husband watching the new Boeing 787 go through its manouvers (?) , hopefully he will be one of the first to fly it > > Cheers > > Jeanine > > > > On 16/12/2009, at 8:41 PM, staceymst3k wrote: > > > >> I keep getting this question, so here's my current list of Top 10 EO's for a beginner to play with. (In no particular order.) > >> > >> Lavender > >> Peppermint > >> Tea Tree > >> Eucalyptus > >> Geranium > >> Rosemary > >> Clary Sage > >> Bergamot (with restrictions!) > >> Lemon > >> Oregano > >> > >> What are your Top 10? > >> > >> Good night, > >> Stacey > >> > >> > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 I have not posted in.... a while My Go To Oils 1. Lavender (Population or 40/42) 2. Clary Sage 3. Ylang Ylang 4. Mugwort (I just like it) 5. Patchouli Oil (I am very old school) 6. Eucalyptus 7. Lemon 8. Australian Sandalwood 9. Tea Tree 10. Peppermint * I may have to give up mugwort for lemon myrtle if I am limited to 10 and on a deserted isle. Lemon Myrtle has more useful properties. can't I have 12?, Just 12 is all I ask... Lou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Going back to whence I first began . . . For beginners: Lavender, angustifolia Peppermint, M. piperita Rosemary, officinalis Cedarwood, atlas Bergamot, cp Chamomile, roman Eucalyptus, glob Helichrysum, italicum (Corsica) Ginger Spruce, black I think this is a good range for a beginner . . . If we were to add 2 more: Tea Tree Oregano Or: Geranium Sandalwood (sustainable New Caledonia) And, if we were to add 3 more to that: Neroli Vetiver Yarrow Of course, I could keep going . . . But then, couldn't we all? Be Well, Marcia Elston, Samara Botane/Nature Intelligence http://www.wingedseed.com http://www.wingedseed.blogspot.com http://www.aromaconnection.org " We make a living by what we get. We make a life by what we give. " - Winston Churchill ________________________________ ATFE [ATFE ] On Behalf Of staceymst3k Tuesday, December 15, 2009 11:42 PM ATFE Top 10 Desert Island EO's I keep getting this question, so here's my current list of Top 10 EO's for a beginner to play with. (In no particular order.) Lavender Peppermint Tea Tree Eucalyptus Geranium Rosemary Clary Sage Bergamot (with restrictions!) Lemon Oregano What are your Top 10? Good night, Stacey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Rhu Khus: (Vertiveria zizanoides) D. e.: (v-k-p-)(Soul of Vertivert, rare variety, rich fragrance) beautiful emerald green, very viscose, both earthy and grounding, good for the muladhara( base) and swadhisthana( sacral) chakra, at the same time good for the astral chakras, draws in abundance on all levels, ideal to have on your business card or wallet to draw in prosperity and abundance! Great skin rejuvenator and excellent aid for the matured woman. This is from Farida Irani's website Subtle Energies, I am sure she would not mind. It is like comparing brandy to cognac - vetiver to Rhus Khus. It is grounding but also balancing , and just wonderful. Cheers Jeanine. On 17/12/2009, at 11:52 AM, Liz wrote: > OK Jeanine now you got me - Rhus Kus... I know I've been out of the > loop for a while but..I think you made this one up - lol > We need a full description including botanical name and a virtual > sample to smell... 8-} > Liz > (scratching head and googling like mad...) > > 2009/12/16 David & Jeanine Moss <d.j.moss: > > I remember us playing this years ago!!!! > > Mogra > > Rhus Kus > > Lime ( Steam distilled) > > Ginger > > Plai > > Coriander > > Lavender > > Manuka > > Sandalwood > > Rose > > and of course lots of Avocado oil for my skin, and someone great to rub it on my back and light fires, catch fish etc...if I was on a desert island....... > > > > BTW, I've got one very excited husband watching the new Boeing 787 go through its manouvers (?) , hopefully he will be one of the first to fly it > > Cheers > > Jeanine > > > > On 16/12/2009, at 8:41 PM, staceymst3k wrote: > > > >> I keep getting this question, so here's my current list of Top 10 EO's for a beginner to play with. (In no particular order.) > >> > >> Lavender > >> Peppermint > >> Tea Tree > >> Eucalyptus > >> Geranium > >> Rosemary > >> Clary Sage > >> Bergamot (with restrictions!) > >> Lemon > >> Oregano > >> > >> What are your Top 10? > >> > >> Good night, > >> Stacey > >> > >> > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Is it top 10 Desert Island like an island off the the Baja California Coast or is it a Deserted Island, tropical with azure seas, white sands and coconut palms? Is it antimicrobial, fungal, biotic, or is it the scents I cannot imagine living without. Sandalwood, an old bottle of Mysore ( I am glad I am old and have some older Sandalwood) Motia,Fragipani or Champaca Attar (any one of them) White Rose from Rajistan(sp.) Roman Chamomile Holy Basil Vetiver Co-distilled with White Ginger Lily Neroli Angelica Glauca Palo Santo Frankincence Sacra Old Patchouli or Aged Yes that's 12 , oh well. If I had to limit it to 3 oils it would be old Sandalwood, Frankincence, and Rose EO What a lovely exercise, a scent journey through my nose. I know I should have thyme geraniol, teatree,rosemary verbenone, plai, peppermint , lemon, practical oils for infections etc. I just cannot bare giving up my hypnotics, my psycho-spiritual oils. Although maybe if it was a tropical isle I could grow many of these. Ali Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Most of my top ten have been mentioned, but but but, no one has mentioned bay rum. Gosh that's a lovely oil. As it's christmas, Bayrum, Sweet orange, clove diffused. OMG... my favorite combo. smells a lot like spiced wine. YUM. As for the Island, Sandalwood, just because it's a must rose, again because it's a must Oregano, Lemon Euc tt and veering down a road so far not traveled. Jojoba and Olive oil. Lavender cuz I'll probably burn myself Lemon for my headaches and Frankincense to mellow out because I 'm going to be SCREAMING for someone to get me OFF this piece of dirt and back to my computer. I hope this island has wifi, cell connection and a bookstore. K -- Kathleen Petrides Bead Hussy http://www.BeadHussy.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 ATFE , " tisserand " <rtisserand wrote: > > This made me think of the first oils I ever used. It must have been somewhere around 1968, a year after I got hold of Valnet's book, which was my bible. > > Basil > Clove< Since this is your #2, you are the perfect person to ask a question. I was just banned from an aromatherapy group on a social networking site, because the moderator and " professional aromatherapist " who is there to sell EOs, said that I was a trouble-maker and not right for the group, because I was shocked she " just heard " from her supplier that she can't reorder Rosewood, because of " some environmental issues " she never heard of before. Then she posted that I was wrong to be concerned at all about clove EO, because " we eat cloves, so naturally the essential oil is completely safe. " So my question; what is your opinion on the safety of clove EO? THANKS!! This group lately has reinvigorated my interest in aromatherapy and returning to my studies much more seriously!! Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 Hi Sue, We eat cloves, so the essential oil is safe - well, this does sound like a risky assumption, and assumptions are generally a bad idea. But the statement also suggests that this person believes essential oils to be either " safe " or " dangerous " . Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but I have certainly come across this child's view of the essential oil safety - cute but simplistic. Essential oils are not " safe " or " dangerous " per se, they only become dangerous when used inappropriately, though a few are best avoided altogether. The action of clove oil closely parallels that of eugenol, and is extremely dose-dependent, low doses being antioxidant, antimutagenic, anti-inflammatory, and anti-irritant to mucous membranes, and high doses having the opposite effects. Eugenol is a blood thinner. Clove oil causes adverse skin reactions in a small % of people with skin disease, when used at 1% or more. Used correctly, clove oil has many therapeutic applications and is one of the most potent antimicrobial oils. Robert ATFE , " SUSAN " <sueapito wrote: > > ATFE , " tisserand@ " <rtisserand@> wrote: > > > > This made me think of the first oils I ever used. It must have been somewhere around 1968, a year after I got hold of Valnet's book, which was my bible. > > > > Basil > > Clove< > > Since this is your #2, you are the perfect person to ask a question. > > I was just banned from an aromatherapy group on a social networking site, because the moderator and " professional aromatherapist " who is there to sell EOs, said that I was a trouble-maker and not right for the group, because I was shocked she " just heard " from her supplier that she can't reorder Rosewood, because of " some environmental issues " she never heard of before. > > Then she posted that I was wrong to be concerned at all about clove EO, because " we eat cloves, so naturally the essential oil is completely safe. " > > So my question; what is your opinion on the safety of clove EO? > > THANKS!! > > This group lately has reinvigorated my interest in aromatherapy and returning to my studies much more seriously!! Sue > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 > Hi Sue, > > We eat cloves, so the essential oil is safe - well, this does sound like a risky assumption, and assumptions are generally a bad idea.< Thanks for your post. The above was her reaction to posting any safety information...that the concerns were nonsense because we eat cloves. Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 Hi Susan, Here's the safety info we provide: Syzygium aromaticum/Eugenia caryophllata/Eugenia aromticum essential oil: Moderate dermal irritant, mucous membrane irritant. Unlikely to cause sensitisation problems unless it is applied undiluted. Do not use on hypersensitive, diseased or damaged skin or children under 2. Do not use at more than 3% concentration on skin and 1% on mucous membrane. Never ingest. Eugenol is a powerful inhibitor of platelet activity (necessary for blood clotting) and it is hepatoxic (can damage liver). Be Well, Marcia Elston, Samara Botane/Nature Intelligence http://www.wingedseed.com <http://www.wingedseed.com/> http://www.wingedseed.blogspot.com <http://www.wingedseed.blogspot.com/> http://www.aromaconnection.org <http://www.aromaconnection.org/> " We make a living by what we get. We make a life by what we give. " - Winston Churchill _____ ATFE [ATFE ] On Behalf Of SUSAN Monday, December 21, 2009 8:16 AM ATFE Re: Top 10 Desert Island EO's ATFE (AT) (DOT) <ATFE%40> com, " tisserand " <rtisserand wrote: > > This made me think of the first oils I ever used. It must have been somewhere around 1968, a year after I got hold of Valnet's book, which was my bible. > > Basil > Clove< Since this is your #2, you are the perfect person to ask a question. I was just banned from an aromatherapy group on a social networking site, because the moderator and " professional aromatherapist " who is there to sell EOs, said that I was a trouble-maker and not right for the group, because I was shocked she " just heard " from her supplier that she can't reorder Rosewood, because of " some environmental issues " she never heard of before. Then she posted that I was wrong to be concerned at all about clove EO, because " we eat cloves, so naturally the essential oil is completely safe. " So my question; what is your opinion on the safety of clove EO? THANKS!! This group lately has reinvigorated my interest in aromatherapy and returning to my studies much more seriously!! Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 Marcia wrote regarding clove oils: Do not use on hypersensitive, diseased or damaged skin or children under 2. I have Eugenia caryophyllata as not being used on children under 12. Can you direct me to a reference/resource regarding it being able to use over age 2? My focus is primarily pediatric so I am quite intrigued. Thanks for humoring one that still has MUCH to learn! Jessica, NC Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 Robert? A lot of our safety reference data comes from your book. Looking at it now and the closed-patch test you reference, there was primary irritation in 2 out of 25 normal subjects when applied at 20%, using 30 subjects, citing none of the three types of clove oil (bud, leaf, stem) and produced a positive reaction in maximation tests. That's a pretty strong dilution in the test. Jessica, I think that if you used it in a 1% or less dilution topically and the child is otherwise healthy, you would have little risk. I think that a lot of untrained users have assumed allspice oil (which I recommend for diffuser use or perfumery only) is interchangeable with clove, which it is not. Perhaps this is where the extreme caution for clove has come from. Be Well, Marcia Elston, Samara Botane/Nature Intelligence http://www.wingedseed.com http://www.wingedseed.blogspot.com http://www.aromaconnection.org " We make a living by what we get. We make a life by what we give. " - Winston Churchill ATFE [ATFE ] On Behalf Of familymassage Monday, December 21, 2009 6:21 PM ATFE Re: Re: Top 10 Desert Island EO's Marcia wrote regarding clove oils: Do not use on hypersensitive, diseased or damaged skin or children under 2. I have Eugenia caryophyllata as not being used on children under 12. Can you direct me to a reference/resource regarding it being able to use over age 2? My focus is primarily pediatric so I am quite intrigued. Thanks for humoring one that still has MUCH to learn! Jessica, NC Sent on the SprintR Now Network from my BlackBerryR --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 Age guidelines are always going to be somewhat arbitrary. I picked the two-or-under age because of maturity/thin-ness of skin. If anything, I would say it's over-cautious. Intact skin does not generally react to 2% concentrations of clove oil, nor does compromised skin react to 0.5% clove oil. I'm not convinced that it's necessary to add arbitrary safety factors to these numbers as the regulatory agencies like to do, especially since these data are based on patch testing which exaggerates risk. A 1% dilution for a 2-12 year-old child sounds good to me. Robert ATFE , " Marcia Elston " <Marcia wrote: > > Robert? A lot of our safety reference data comes from your book. Looking at > it now and the closed-patch test you reference, there was primary irritation > in 2 out of 25 normal subjects when applied at 20%, using 30 subjects, > citing none of the three types of clove oil (bud, leaf, stem) and produced a > positive reaction in maximation tests. That's a pretty strong dilution in > the test. > > Jessica, I think that if you used it in a 1% or less dilution topically and > the child is otherwise healthy, you would have little risk. I think that a > lot of untrained users have assumed allspice oil (which I recommend for > diffuser use or perfumery only) is interchangeable with clove, which it is > not. Perhaps this is where the extreme caution for clove has come from. > > Be Well, > Marcia Elston, Samara Botane/Nature Intelligence > http://www.wingedseed.com > http://www.wingedseed.blogspot.com > http://www.aromaconnection.org > " We make a living by what we get. We make a life by what we give. " - Winston > Churchill > > > > > > > ATFE [ATFE ] On Behalf Of > familymassage > Monday, December 21, 2009 6:21 PM > ATFE > Re: Re: Top 10 Desert Island EO's > > Marcia wrote regarding clove oils: > Do not use on hypersensitive, diseased or damaged skin or children under 2. > > > I have Eugenia caryophyllata as not being used on children under 12. Can > you direct me to a reference/resource regarding it being able to use over > age 2? My focus is primarily pediatric so I am quite intrigued. > > Thanks for humoring one that still has MUCH to learn! > Jessica, NC > Sent on the SprintR Now Network from my BlackBerryR > > --- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 I had understood that some of the " age restrictions " found in some references (or novels as Martin had quipped once *grin*) was due to an immaturity of systems, not necessarily patch testing. For a poor example--cinnamon or 'red' thyme being too strong for the respiratory of young ones except as a diluted preparation for the room (spray/diffuser); though not even then for that variation of thyme.... I'm hoping to get Robert's book SOON. I'm behind on my self-studies and my desired list of book purchases. I've been extremely grateful for this list and for ALL of you!! Jessica, NC Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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