Guest guest Posted May 9, 2005 Report Share Posted May 9, 2005 The April 2005 issue of Better Nutrition had an article on fibromyalgia that said: " ...to treat fibromylagia, you have to increase the levels of mitochondria in the muscles. One way to do this is to exercise...Ribose, a component of ATP, figures prominently in several important metabolic processes in the body. Ribose supplementation has been shown to be beneficial when combined with malic acid and magnesium. All three are crucial in the synthesis of ATP. " However, the articile didn't say now much ribose, malic acid or magnesium to take. Can anyone make any recommendations? - Anna ********** Looking for intelligent conversation? Visit Digna-Petamus (That's Latin for " Let us seek worthy things. " ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2005 Report Share Posted May 10, 2005 Malic acid is available in most health food or Vitamin stores. Malic acid is already combined with Magnesium in the tablets. 500mg is the usual dose, may be taken up to twice daily. I don't know of Ribose. Instead, I take Whey protein daily, it has all the essential Amino Acids, is high protein, low fat, low carb. EAS lo Carb drinks are the same. In fact, I'll mix whey protein powder with a drink mix for a breakfast which consists of a total of 30mg protein, 9 gm carb, 3 gm fiber, and 2gm total fat with 225 calories. This has been a great help with my fibro AND my diet. I also take magnesium 250mg supplements a day. If you have fibro, ask your dr about a sleep apnea study. I had one and they found RLS (restless leg syndrome) and severe PLMD (periodic limb movement disorder) which affects my sleep which in turn apparently leads to Fibromyalgia. After 10 years of misery, I get a bit more relief with the meds for RLS ---- 05/09/05 06:56:44 simply_supplements Cc: fibromyalgia Dosages for fibromyalgia The April 2005 issue of Better Nutrition had an article on fibromyalgia that said: "...to treat fibromylagia, you have to increase the levels of mitochondria in the muscles. One way to do this is to exercise...Ribose, a component of ATP, figures prominently in several important metabolic processes in the body. Ribose supplementation has been shown to be beneficial when combined with malic acid and magnesium. All three are crucial in the synthesis of ATP." However, the articile didn't say now much ribose, malic acid or magnesium to take. Can anyone make any recommendations? - Anna ********** Looking for intelligent conversation? Visit Digna-Petamus (That's Latin for "Let us seek worthy things.") Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2005 Report Share Posted May 10, 2005 ---hi anna as you researching the problem some info for you see 4. Ensure your diet is good raw salad once a day ideal or 5 portions vegetables or fruit daily ensure adequate protein women 60 grams day men around 70grams. Ensure you get adequate minerals all of them particularly calcium and magnesium, iron in the right proportions and combinations. See Adele Davis book lets eat right to keep fit ISBN 0046410171. A new study published in the February 15, 2005 issue of Biological Psychiatry shows that certain foods are better at treating depression than antidepressant drugs. The study found that omega-3 fatty acids and foods high in a compound called uridine were able to reduce the symptoms of depression as well as or better than three different antidepressant drugs that were tested. This research was conducted at the McLean Hospital, which is affiliated with Harvard. It's very exciting to see this kind of study, because it shows yet more scientific evidence for the healing effects of food as well as the relative uselessness of prescription drugs. Based on the results of this study, it seems silly that anyone would continue to use antidepressant drugs to try to treat depression when there are simple healing foods available that do a better job. This is especially true when considering the potentially dangerous side effects of antidepressant drugs that are now coming to light, including increased risk of suicides, violent behavior, and other similar acts of aggression. Ensure adequate water intake of the order 1-2 litres per day that's right water. Blood sugar make sure you are not suffering low blood sugar as this can very quickly affect your mood. Also according to a known therapist who says that some of her patients had food intolerance's or reactions to certain foods which were a significant contributory cause of depression .when certain foods were taken out it seems immediate results were found. So it might pay you to have a test done on the relationship of your foods and you. It seems a great many benefits are obtained when you cut out foods that don't suit you. Tackling fibromyalgia This is an article touching upon some of the most powerful healing principles we know about . I do quite a bit of research into various different ailments over many years and will share this info with you and I also practice spiritual healing . The only promise being made quite clear here is that these things mentioned- can be a major influence in treating the ailment. A total cure might very well center around a thing called karma/ forgiveness. As well as that we have our own web site where it is possible to research quite a few healing principles and therapies. The therapies and principles have been in use for thousands of years; a lot emerged from ancient Egypt. We have many testimonies and some research papers and can also point you to links to other research studies indicating some remark able results. It is called the Orion project. We make the point quite clear that we sell nothing health related or make any charge for the healing, which comes through. We actively share information, much of which has been suppressed or not actively promoted. We only promote good health this is not spam neither are we promoting products , we leave it up to u to evaluate the material we present we have tried this and can vouch for some excellent results. WE do not advertise anything There are quite a few points to consider one of which is why if this is so good as you say why are we not being told about it. Why indeed? Well I am going to tell you about something that maybe less than 1% of the population even understand. The answer –vested interest and quite a bit of apathy and scientific arrogance. There are a few very important points that I would like to cover on the subject of drugs and research and treatment At present the system in England is this, all treatment recommended by the NHS should be tested and approved and quite rightly so. Obviously it costs vast sums of money to test and approve treatments because of the possible damage to people and the subsequent litigation costing millions of pounds. The point is this Where does this money come from to test and approve treatments? By far the biggest source is the drug companies. So take for example a researcher might go along to his local drug company and tell them his findings about this treatment he has been working on which is of outstanding value but needs testing further or approving, you might think they would be falling over themselves to know more –right, you could not be more wrong. By and large only treatments, which show the promise of good deal of a profit, will even get examined. Because they are in business to make a profit, not for serving the people. So many of the thousands of therapies which they see as having no profit potential do not get approved and thus by and large do not get recommended by your local doctor or hospital. Despite The fact that some of them do have overwhelming benefits some, which have saved needless operations, needless amputations, needless pain and trauma, needless kidney failures and much loss of life. This will apply to any country where most research is being done by drug companies – they would probably laugh in your face if you went there with a promising therapy which was so cheap anyone could get it. Do you really think they would invest thousands of pounds in any therapy which did not show the promise of good profit. Your local G.P/ doctor is not a researcher, in the main he is told what to prescribe he does not even have the time often to look at research. In fact some G.P .s doctors have had action taken against them for prescribing supplements. At this minute 2004 approx 5000 Beds are being taken up by people in the UK who have had adverse reactions to drugs. Some will die others will be maimed .A serious amount of suffering is taking place on a scale that makes some wars look like a minor infringement. That is a fact So Mr/Mrs patient in 99% of the time because of this system you will probably only get recommended drugs. Primarily because of deliberate government policy not to fund research into other therapies. Have you heard your local doctor recommend, Massage, Spiritual healing, Knieisiology Herbs, Light therapy, Colour therapy, Regression therapy, Osteopathy, Zappers, Magnetic devices, Electrical Frequency devices. Has he ever mentioned the power of nutrition what you eat how much protein, carbo, vitamins, water you take in etc. Has he ever recommended a detox .. All of these have shown their inherent worth with thousands if not millions of testimonials. As you can see this system in its present state is inherently flawed, that is Until the day comes when most of the research and testing is done by an agency with no vested interests attached and a very clear agenda of being objective. Acting for the people. Printing and revealing all results good and bad. What also clouds the issue further is the fact that some of these drugs work well but that is not to say that there isn't something more natural better. The apathy and scientific arrogance we will leave to another time. Moving on to a more positive note .One of the biggest problems we see when giving this material is that a lot of people do not have good evaluation skills. They rely on a white coat, a hospital building, the sound of a persons voice to sway their thinking into accepting treatments when they are ill. Like lambs they are taken down paths some of which will lead them into untold suffering . Of course this is what some of these drug companies rely on the vast sums of money which can be generated are enormous. So as the wise among you will see a little investment in time over your health could be a very wise move indeed. Well we move now along to our little protocol the principles of which will apply to many other health problems as well. EDGAR CAYCE'S PERSPECTIVE ON FIBROMYALGIA During Edgar Cayce's era it was commonly called muscular rheumatism. Several individuals with this diagnosis received readings on their condition. OVERVIEW OF THERAPEUTIC REGIME The treatments recommended in the Cayce readings on fibromyalgia are mainly directed toward improving the digestive, circulatory, nervous, and eliminating systems. Diet, moderate exercise, a mild form of energy medicine (Radial Appliance), spinal manipulations and general massage, colon irrigation, and castor oil packs are therapies intended to improve these vital systemic functions. As was typical of Cayce's holistic approach, the mental and spiritual aspects of therapy were emphasized. Here are the basic therapies recommended for the treatment of fibromyalgia based on the Cayce information on this disorder: All people are advised to get The Edgar Cayce Handbook for Health through Drugless therapy by Hugh Lynn Cayce Harold Reilly and Ruth Hagy Brod ISBN 0-02-601960-4 Harold reillys 43 years of experience of working with the research the results he, got the treatments he gave- a very valuable book These are the principles we can only try to empasise the importance of every one of them to your health 1. INTERNAL CLEANSING: Hydrotherapy includes drinking six to eight glasses of pure water daily, colonic irrigations (preferably) or enemas, and a cleansing diet of fresh fruits and vegetables. Sometimes even a sweat bath was recommended 2.Castor oil packs across the abdomen are recommended to improve eliminations through the liver and colon. Mild laxatives may be helpful if constipation is a problem. Fume baths assist with elimination of toxins through the skin. 3.MANUAL THERAPY (SPINAL MANIPULATION AND MASSAGE): Osteopathic or chiropractic treatment is recommended to relieve any pressures that may be hindering circulation and decreasing eliminations. This is vital , your spine and its nerve pathways can have an enormous influence on how you feel and the functioning of your body. The Cayce readings contain many very complimentary comments about osteopathy of that day, such as: " There is no form of physical mechanotherapy so near in accord with nature's measures as correctly given osteopathic adjustments. " 4. Gentle massage is suggested to relax the body and improve circulation and eliminations. Firstly find someone to massage your back and legs at least 3 times a week Use peanut oil or a mix of 50-50 olive and peanut oil. Paying particular attention to the spine and choose someone who is sympathy with your condition. It is by no mere chance that massage has been around for thousands of years .It is effective speeds up the toxic removal process, enables blood to flow to many more capillaries and can be a major factor in your well being. We advocate massage on a weekly basis as a normal healthy practice. Here are some reported benefits of massage: Research in massage therapy has been ongoing for more than 120 years. Here are some reported benefits of massage: Preliminary results suggested cancer patients had less pain and anxiety after receiving therapeutic massage at the James Cancer Hospital and Research Institute in Columbus, Ohio. Women who had experienced the recent death of a child were less depressed after receiving therapeutic massage, according to preliminary results of a study at the University of South Carolina Medical school students at the University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey-New Jersey Medical School who were massaged before an exam showed a significant decrease in anxiety and respiratory rates. as well as a significant increase in white blood cells and natural killer cell activity, suggesting a benefit to the immune system Studies funded by the National Institutes of Health (NIH) have found massage beneficial in improving weight gain in HIV-exposed infants and facilitating recovery in patients who underwent abdominal surgery. At the University of Miami School of Medicine's Touch Research Institute, researchers have found that massage is helpful in decreasing blood pressure in people with hypertension, alleviating pain in migraine sufferers and improving alertness and performance in office workers. An increasing number of research studies show massage reduces heart rate, lowers blood pressure, increases blood circulation and lymph flow, relaxes muscles, improves range of motion, and increases endorphins (enhancing medical treatment). Although therapeutic massage does not increase muscle strength, it can stimulate weak, inactive muscles and, thus, partially compensate for the lack of exercise and inactivity resulting from illness or injury. It also can hasten and lead to a more complete recovery from exercise or injury. Research has verified that: Office workers massaged regularly were more alert, performed better and were less stressed than those who weren't massaged. Massage therapy decreased the effects of anxiety, tension, depression, pain, and itching in burn patients. Abdominal surgery patients recovered more quickly after massage. Premature infants who were massaged gained more weight and fared better than those who weren't. Autistic children showed less erratic behavior after massage therapy. According AMTA, massage helps both physically and mentally. " Often times people are stressed in our culture. Stress-related disorders make up between 80-and-90 percent of the ailments that bring people to family practice physicians. What they require is someone to listen, someone to touch them, someone to care. That does not exist in modern medicine. One of the complaints heard frequently is that physicians don't touch their patients any more. Touch just isn't there. Years ago massage was a big part of nursing. There was so much care, so much touch, so much goodness conveyed through massage. Now nurses for the most part are as busy as physicians. They're writing charts, dealing with insurance notes, they're doing procedures and often there is no room for massage any more. I believe massage therapy is absolutely key in the healing process not only in the hospital environment but because it relieves stress, it is obviously at the foundation in the healing process any time and anywhere. " Joan Borysenko - Massage Journal Interview, Fall 1999 Physical Benefits of Therapeutic Massage Massage also provides another therapeutic component largely absent in today's world: tactile stimulation, or, more simply, touch. In 1986, the Touch Research Institute at the University of Miami published groundbreaking research on the effects of massage on premature babies. The preterm babies who received massage therapy showed 47% greater weight gain and six-day shorter hospital stays than the infants who were not receiving massage. But is this study evidence of what loving touch can do spiritually, or rather what massage can do on a physiological level? Regardless, babies are not the only benefactors Helps relieve stress and aids relaxation Helps relieve muscle tension and stiffness. Alleviates discomfort during pregnancy Fosters faster healing of strained muscles and sprained ligaments; reduces pain and swelling; reduces formation of excessive scar tissue. Reduces muscle spasms. Provides greater joint flexibility and range of motion. Enhances athletic performance; Treats injuries caused during sport or work. Promotes deeper and easier breathing Improves circulation of blood and movement of lymph fluids. Reduces blood pressure. Helps relieve tension-related headaches and effects of eye-strain. Enhances the health and nourishment of skin Improves posture. Strengthens the immune system. Treats musculoskeletal problems. Rehabilitation post operative Rehabilitation after injury. (Source: AMTA Mental Benefits of Massage Therapy Fosters peace of mind Promotes a relaxed state of mental alertness. Helps relieve mental stress Improves ability to monitor stress signals and respond appropriately. Enhances capacity for calm thinking and creativity Emotional Benefits. Satisfies needs for caring nurturing touch Fosters a feeling of well being. Reduces levels of anxiety Creates body awareness Increases awareness of mind-body connection. 5. DIET: The Basic Cayce Diet is intended to improve assimilation and elimination. The diet focuses heavily on keeping a proper alkaline/acid balance while avoiding foods which produce toxicity and drain the system. Essentially, the diet consists mainly of fruits and vegetables while avoiding fried foods and refined carbohydrates ( " junk food " ). Certain food combinations are emphasized. 6.ENERGY MEDICINE: In addition to the above therapies which will tend to improve circulation, the Radial Appliance is recommended to further assist in increasing relaxation and nervous system coordination. Edgar Cayce said that this appliance would be helpful for anyone having problems with disturbed sleep and fatigue.the radial appliance can be bourght from many outlets mainly in the usa across the internet.this device was recommended hundereds of times for all sorts of problems .i have a fact sheet on this 7MEDICINE: A ginseng tonic is recommended to improve digestion and eliminations. Small dosages of beef juice are recommended for persons who experience significant fatigue and lack of vitality. 8.MODERATE EXERCISE: Walking or other moderate exercise is recommended. Be outdoors in the open as much as possible. 9.ATTITUDES AND EMOTIONS: The mental and emotional aspects of healing are frequently discussed in the Cayce readings. Particularly, an attitude of desiring and expecting to be healed is important. A positive mental and emotional attitude and can be created and maintained by focusing on a high purpose (ideal) for being healed. 10. Ensure you do at least I hr per day some kind of voluntary work especialy in some health related way- when you are able. Now this touches on a concept where by contributing something to other peoples welfare it is hoped that the universe will respond by offsetting some of the not so good things we have done. I have a whole paper devoted to this subject called karma. I will send a copy of this to you – just e-mail me. Called karma I believe that this could be a real key needing total importance in treating many ailments, Edgar cayce devoted many hours to this very topic, and there are many references to it in the bible. The wise among you will consider this very carefully 11. Spiritual healing, Reiki, find a good healer - but someone you feel an attunement with at a soul level otherwise you can have negative results making your situation worse. We are know witnessing one of the great turnings in our century where old healing practices are re-emerging such as Reiki healing, Colour healing, Seichim, Spiritual healing, Osteopathy, Massage and many others. Some of these are thousands of years old, Spiritual healing is one of those. It is exactly the same kind of energy used by Jesus in so many of his healings. Put simply Spiritual Healing, Reiki is the transference of certain energies through a channel which could be a person or an animal or even the planet, the wavelengths of this healing energy are well outside the limits of most scientific equipment but a lot of people can feel this energy . The energy in my experience has been very uplifting and beautiful which can touch and vastly influence parts of us such as the spirit or soul or our mental selves and our physical selves. It can bring a steadiness and balance and sense of well-being second to none .Its limits as to its use are in the realms of the infinite. A very simplistic analogy would be to liken it to a massive energy reservoir which can be tapped into by people and animals which act as the conduits of this energy and like wires of electricity some of which are bigger than others and so therefore big wires can transmit more energy than smaller wires. Bearing this point in mind the reader can soon appreciate that going to one healer can be vastly different than going to another as it is with so many things whether it be dentists, doctors, policeman or what have you. Spiritual Healing is natural healing energy, which is present in this universe. Spiritual healers work in many different ways to some it is the laying on of hands onto a person or animal, to others it can be sent through the power of thought. To be even in the presence of some healers can have a profound and beneficial effect on people and one wishes that there were more people giving off just as beautiful vibrations as these people were this world would truly transform it. 12. study the book -the journey ISBN 0-7225-3839-1 from this web site , http://www.thejourney.com/ this person with the aid of the principles outlined clearly in the book -cleared herself from a cancer growth the size of a football in 6 weeks .I believe these same principles could be applied to a lot of conditions with positive results. *FIBROMYALGIA LINKED TO IBS* The Edgar Cayce readings consistently maintain that problems in the bowel can produce systemic conditions. A recent medical study echoes this theme. Researchers at the Cedars-Sinai Medical Center, Los Angeles,California may have discovered a simple test that links fibromyalgia (acondition manifesting as muscle pain) with irritable bowel syndrome (orIBS, a condition involving abdominal pain, bloating, and diarrhea). The lactulose breath test (LBT) is used to assess for the presence of microbes in the bowel in cases of IBS. Some previous studies have found that nearly one-third of fibromyalgia patients also have IBS. The study, published in the Annals of the Rheumatic Diseases (April2004), explored the hypothesis that LBT would be abnormal in both IBS and fibromyalgia patients. The researchers recruited 42 fibromyalgia patients, 111 IBS patients, and 15 healthy control subjects who were given the LBT. All the patients with fibromyalgia exhibited abnormal LBT results compared to 84 percent in the IBS group and 20 percent in the control group. Furthermore, the amount of hydrogen gas detected in the LBT correlated with the level of pain in the fibromyalgia patients. The researchers noted that further studies would be needed to determine if treatment and normalization of the LBT with antibiotics can produce improvement in fibromyalgia symptoms. Further information on other therapies and other ailments will be found at my web site. Go to http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/seventhmoon/orion/ Please feel free to copy and distribute to your friends. You can e-mail me if you want more info on the Edgar cayce principles or specific info on some of the major complaints he dealt with such as cancer, ms etc. just e mail pho In , aljuarez@z... wrote: > > The April 2005 issue of Better Nutrition had an article on fibromyalgia that > said: > > " ...to treat fibromylagia, you have to increase the levels of mitochondria > in the muscles. One way to do this is to exercise...Ribose, a component of > ATP, figures prominently in several important metabolic processes in the > body. Ribose supplementation has been shown to be beneficial when combined > with malic acid and magnesium. All three are crucial in the synthesis of > ATP. " > > However, the articile didn't say now much ribose, malic acid or magnesium to > take. Can anyone make any recommendations? > > - Anna > > > > ********** > Looking for intelligent conversation? > Visit Digna-Petamus (That's Latin for " Let us > seek worthy things. " ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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