Guest guest Posted September 1, 2001 Report Share Posted September 1, 2001 ....so, other than the GMO issue, who thinks that it is a propaganda move that gives us " greedy Americans " the right to gorge, or otherwise overindulge in something that may or may not be healthy for us? Steve ----------------------------- Dear Steve, YOU ASKED FOR IT - I WOULD NOT TOUCH SOY AT ALL IN THE STATES AS THE MAJORITY IS HEAVILY GENETIC ENGINEERED. AND- EVEN IF IT SAYS IT ISN'T - THERE IS DOUBT THAT THE SATEMENT IS TRUE..................sigh........just my two bits worth.............Love Penny (a longtime member of the Organic Consumers Association which is now true foods and great supporter of Ronnie Cummins and Greenpeace) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2001 Report Share Posted September 1, 2001 gorging on anything is unhealty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2001 Report Share Posted September 1, 2001 I was looking to get opinions on the fact that there is alot of " bad mouthing " soy recently, and it's not from the " mainstream " that us " liberals " have to choose sides against, but since " I don't know " if this is true or not, I was just asking opinions, which opens the limits of discussion up a little versus " I heard so-and-so and you-know-who say... " Maybe I didn't make myself clear the first time, but I have the understanding that one way may b e spreading rumors, while the other is stimulating conversation!! Any views?? Steve Steve ----------------------------- Dear Steve, YOU ASKED FOR IT - I WOULD NOT TOUCH SOY AT ALL IN THE STATES AS THE MAJORITY IS HEAVILY GENETIC ENGINEERED. AND- EVEN IF IT SAYS IT ISN'T - THERE IS DOUBT THAT THE SATEMENT IS TRUE..................sigh........just my two bits worth.............Love Penny (a longtime member of the Organic Consumers Association which is now true foods and great supporter of Ronnie Cummins and Greenpeace) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2001 Report Share Posted September 1, 2001 Dear Steve, YOU ASKED FOR IT - I WOULD NOT TOUCH SOY AT ALL IN THE STATES AS THE MAJORITY IS HEAVILY GENETIC ENGINEERED. AND- EVEN IF IT SAYS IT ISN'T - THERE IS DOUBT THAT THE SATEMENT IS TRUE..................sigh........just my two bits worth.............Love Penny (a longtime member of the Organic Consumers Association which is now true foods and great supporter of Ronnie Cummins and Greenpeace) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2001 Report Share Posted September 2, 2001 Steve, Thing is aside from the genetically-engineered issue, I at least always hope that when it says non-GMO, it actually is.....but I too have read that that is no guarantee. Aside from this there is a lot of negative press on this, including that soy blocks mineral absorption. Of some particular concern is that isoflavone supplements or soy protein act as potent anti-thyroid agents and are capable of suppressing thyroid function, and causing or worsening hypothyroidism. It's another one of those things you have to research, and then decide for yourself, but for me there is just so much negative stuff on this I hear that I would be very PROUD to say I never touch the stuff. Except that I occasionally do, actually. I don't eat meat or poultry and I no longer eat cheese (or almost never), so it is an occasional thing with me, but I would " like " to say I don't eat it. Doc Ian is someone who won't touch soy either, but in his case I " believe " it is mostly because of the GE issue and the fact that it can't be guaranteed. I don't remember where he lies on the other issues. If you do a search in the message archives, you " should " be able to come up with quite a few thoughts on this subject. It's definitely been discussed here before. Also, here are some good links: http://www.soyonlineservice.co.nz/ http://www.rheumatic.org/soy.htm http://thyroid.about.com/library/weekly/aa083099.htm Valerie --- Steve <bigbird3969 wrote: > I was looking to get opinions on the fact that there > is alot of " bad mouthing " soy recently, and it's not > from the " mainstream " that us " liberals " have to > choose sides against, but since " I don't know " if > this is true or not, I was just asking opinions, > which opens the limits of discussion up a little > versus " I heard so-and-so and you-know-who say... " > > Maybe I didn't make myself clear the first time, but > I have the understanding that one way may b e > spreading rumors, while the other is stimulating > conversation!! > > Any views?? > Steve > > Steve > ----------------------------- > Dear Steve, > YOU ASKED FOR IT - I WOULD NOT TOUCH SOY AT ALL > IN THE STATES AS THE MAJORITY IS HEAVILY GENETIC > ENGINEERED. > AND- EVEN IF IT SAYS IT ISN'T - THERE IS DOUBT THAT > THE SATEMENT IS > TRUE..................sigh........just my two bits > worth.............Love Penny (a longtime member of > the Organic Consumers Association which is now true > foods and great supporter of Ronnie Cummins and > Greenpeace) Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Messenger http://im. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2001 Report Share Posted September 2, 2001 Taken in moderation and balanced out by other nutritious foods, I believe soy is a good thing. The problem is, as you mentioned, when we hear something touted as a " wonder food " or " miracle food " we over do it. Very few Americans have a good concept of balance. Jennie Steve wrote: > What do ya'll think of the assertion that soy is the product of an overstocked, powerful lobbyist with nothing to do but slop the hogs/cattle, so they push these studies to let you think that soy is the wonder food, when in actuality, we overconsume (as usual - compared to the Asians), may be damaging our thyroids by not eating more seaweeds and fish, and that the fish, veggies, and FERMENTED soy (ie. miso, tempeh) is what makes the Asians less prone to our diseases? > > Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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