Guest guest Posted September 2, 2001 Report Share Posted September 2, 2001 I agree that we all at one time or another have the systems of ADHD. It's the school that what's my grandson on drugs. The reason I agree to the meds because he was in the solution center more then he was is class therefor not learning a thing. They told me without the meds he couldn't learn. He was reading second grade level with meds he jumped up the his grade level 5th. But the weight loss and anger outburst at night, I feel I have to do something different to help him keep on track. Taking him out of school isn't an option. I tried that I don't have what it takes to teach him. I can teach him to scroll, play cards, board games and even math but when it comes to reading and writing forget it. He totally blocks me out. Read From U Later Trish - <herbal remedies > <herbal remedies > Sunday, September 02, 2001 2:05 AM [herbal remedies] Digest Number 1083 > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > Dr.IanShillington > ------ > > There are 17 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. Re:Re: Calcium Hydroxyapatite > " Steve " <bigbird3969 > 2. Re: Re:To soy, or not to soy?!? > WtchyWmyn > 3. Re:Re: Re:To soy, or not to soy?!? > " Steve " <bigbird3969 > 4. Re:To soy, or not to soy?!? > " Steve " <bigbird3969 > 5. Re: To soy, or not to soy?!? > Valerie <rainbow_33434 > 6. Re:Re: To soy, or not to soy?!? > " Steve " <bigbird3969 > 7. Re:To soy, or not to soy?!? > Valerie <rainbow_33434 > 8. Re: Chronic sinus congestion > Aromaconnection > 9. Re: Dear Mindy, Rose Hips > Aromaconnection > 10. RE: to soy or not to soy > rja86 > 11. Re: Herbal Snuff Recipe > Valerie <rainbow_33434 > 12. Re: To soy, or not to soy?!? > Jennie <silvermist2 > 13. To soy, or not to soy?!? > Penny Khaled <pennyclr75 > 14. Snuff for Chronic sinus congestion > Penny Khaled <pennyclr75 > 15. Re: ADHD Herbal Remedies > " Heather Moll " <heather > 16. Re: Michael, ADHD > " Heather Moll " <heather > 17. New Moderator > " Ian Shillington N.D. " <Dr.IanShillington > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 1 > Sat, 01 Sep 2001 19:11:01 EDT > " Steve " <bigbird3969 > Re:Re: Calcium Hydroxyapatite > > No offense taken. > > Steve > ----------------------------- > EEEK. OK, Steve, it's true that I didn't finish your > sentence when repeating it back. You actually said, > " the only calcium supplement that not only has been > shown to stop osteoporosis, but reverse it. " It's > true that I erred by not completing your reference, > thereby misquoting you, for which I apologize. In my > head I was actually referring to the whole statement, > however, when I wondered if it had originated from an > advertisement. > > If you feel comfortable about your sources, fine....I > have heard this other part, however, and right or > wrong, feel I should repeat it. I am not giving you > this as fact; I just don't necessarily trust some of > what we read if someone has something to gain. Could > be true, of course, and perhaps the author didn't have > something to gain in whatever it was you read, I don't > know. Everyone needs to do what he feels good about. > I just need to repeat what I've heard about this as a > balance--even if there is any possibility that I am > wrong--because the possibility of what I've heard > being right is important. Just because something is > expensive doesn't mean it's good, and just because > something is in an alternative magazine doesn't make > it true, especially if it happens to be written by > someone who has something to gain. Just as everything > in a health food store doesn't necessarily have > anything to do with your good health. > > I really wasn't trying to get a fight going. Sorry if > I offended you. > > Valerie > > --- Steve <bigbird3969 wrote: > > I didn't say that it was the only supplement to STOP > > osteoporosis, I said reverse, add bone back! I have > > seen this in alternative magazines that are not into > > passing bad " dope " and OsCal is the one that I heard > > is over-the-counter and from oyster shells! OsCal is > > fairly inexpensive; hydroxyapatite isn't! > > > > Steve > > > ----------------------------- > > Steve, > > > > Mmmmm, but on the other hand I've heard that this is > > calcium from oyster shell, proven repeatedly to have > > the highest lead contamination. Many doctors still > > recommend it, as I understand it, but that in itself > > isn't a recommendation. As far as its being the only > > calcium supplement that has been shown to stop > > osteoporosis, I wonder if that originated from an > > advertisement? Just another " I heard....... " > > > > Valerie > > > > > Calcium hydroxyapatite is the calcium that i was > > > trying to think of (many posts ago) when the > > subject > > > was about " the only calcium supplement that not > > only > > > has been shown to stop osteoporosis, but reverse > > it " > > > as it matches the bone matrix form of calcium; > > > though I'm sure it's expensive compared to most of > > > what's out there! > > > \ > > > \In Health, > > > Steve > > > > Get personalized email addresses from Mail > http://personal.mail./ > > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by th > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 2 > Sat, 1 Sep 2001 19:12:59 EDT > WtchyWmyn > Re: Re:To soy, or not to soy?!? > > gorging on anything is unhealty > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 3 > Sat, 01 Sep 2001 19:25:53 EDT > " Steve " <bigbird3969 > Re:Re: Re:To soy, or not to soy?!? > > OK NOW, this is getting like pulling eye teeth!! Do you believe that it is extremely healthy, but maybe we indulge too much; there's nothing to worry about as long as we don't go overboard; we need to only eat fermented soy products; or if we eat soy, we should eat other things to cover the possible " side effects " ; or WHAT?? > > I'm trying to stimulate intellect here, and get some oppinions, not play english student and let ya'll disect my question!! ;o) I know you can do it; come on!! > > Steve > ----------------------------- > gorging on anything is unhealty > > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > Dr.IanShillington > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2002 Report Share Posted August 9, 2002 Rey, > Fri, 09 Aug 2002 07:54:34 -0000 > " reyna3332000 " > Secrets of -in the > 'doing' > I have given your question a couple of days of > meditative reflection. Thanks. I appreciate your thoughts, as always. I find that I keep thinking about it as well. > > I think the 'secrets' of Chinese medicine > is in the 'doing' of > this ancient medical art . [...] > However, I happen to believe > that the 'word ' Chinese' in 'Chinese medicine' > represents the > intellectual tradition upon which this ancient > medical art is > grounded. And one of the pillars of this > intellectual tradition is > its emphasis on 'doing'. > Your point about the secret lying in the doing makes some sense, but it begs the question to some extent. After all, the truly curious would only want to know what are the secret ways of doing? Can you comment further on the nature of this intellectual tradition to which you make reference? I would also be interested to read your thoughts on the pertinence and importance of this intellecutal tradition to the training of practitioners and, indeed, to the practice of Chinese medicine in modern clinics. As I've thought about it, it seems to me that there are secrets and secrecy embedded in Chinese medicine at many levels. At one level, there are the secrets of the small minded who imagine that they have to keep everything they know a secret in order to prevent others from learning what they think and do. Then there are the secrets of those inspired not by small selfish reasons but by grandiose and largely fanciful imaginings, eg., that they possess some knowledge that would harm the uninitiated, which must therefore be maintained as secrets until people are ready to learn. But it seems to me that the greatest secrets of Chinese medicine remain those facts and insights which people have been trying to convey openly and publically for a long, long time. Perhaps secrets such as what is q¨¬ and what are y¨©n and y¨¢ng will remain secrets forever. Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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