Guest guest Posted January 5, 2002 Report Share Posted January 5, 2002 Kim, If your neck and shoulders are hurting too, your headaches and pain may be related to the nerves and vertebra in your neck. My mother has severe headaches, shoulder and neck pain. A bad case of calcium deposits in the neck region (burcitis or something like that). Some kinda spurs on the discs that are causing real physical trama to the nerves in and around her head, neck and shoulder - including severe headaches for days at a time. Just a suggestion to have your bone doctor look into. -Ken - <herbal remedies > <herbal remedies > Friday, January 04, 2002 4:14 AM [herbal remedies] Digest Number 1237 > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > Dr.IanShillington > ------ > > There are 14 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. Bulk Quantities of Dried Herbs > " Norma Daulton " <ndaulton > 2. Re: gout > goat <goat > 3. Re: Re: pinworms > goat <goat > 4. Re: New file uploaded to herbal remedies > " Schwillings " <ajschwilling > 5. Re: Re: pinworms > goat <goat > 6. Re: New file uploaded to herbal remedies > Tohelpwilliam > 7. A Little Humor > " Ian Shillington N.D. " <Dr.IanShillington > 8. Ants and Grits - Lice and Rosemary > " Ian Shillington N.D. " <Dr.IanShillington > 9. Herbal supplements for sale > Pat Spelling <pat > 10. Re: Ants and Grits - Lice and Rosemary > LJaguar2212 > 11. Re: Ants and Grits - Lice and Rosemary > " Norma Daulton " <ndaulton > 12. RE: Ants and grits lice and Rosemary > " lynbes " <sesbpa > 13. (unknown) > " lynbes " <sesbpa > 14. please help!! > Kim intoronto <kimintoronto2001 > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 1 > Thu, 3 Jan 2002 11:00:46 -0600 > " Norma Daulton " <ndaulton > Bulk Quantities of Dried Herbs > > For anyone interested, here is a source where you can buy bulk quantities of dried herbs. > > The Bulk Herb Store > 1010 Pearl Road > Pleasantville, Tn 37033 > > > \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ > > Norma Daulton > > " Who can find a virtuous woman? For her price is far above rubies. The heart of her husband doth safely trust in her. " Proverbs 31:10-11 > > > [This message contained attachments] > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 2 > Wed, 02 Jan 2002 18:19:13 -0500 > goat <goat > Re: gout > > gohar333 wrote: > > > I am also a gout patient. > > Corn hair (Golden) boiled in saltish water and drinking is the best > > cure to lower the Uric Acid in the blood. > > > > Howdy fellow (non) traveler. > I'll have to try that. I usually use celery seed when I get a case of it. I have > to admit that it does a bang up job, going from unable to motivate at all (triple ouch), > to being up and around in a couple hours, and completely gone (unless > I let it get to far advanced, and then it is tender for a while from tissue? damage, > but not gouty) over night. > -- > Goat (Generalist of all Trades)! > > Jeremiah 50:8 " Flee out of the midst of Babylon, and go forth out of the land of the Chaldeans, and be as the > male goats before the flocks. " > > > " When the representative body have lost the confidence of their constituents, when they have notoriously made > sale of their most valuable rights, when they have assumed to themselves powers which the people never put into > their hands, then, indeed, their continuing in office becomes dangerous to the State, and calls for an > exercise of the power of dissolution. " --Thomas Jefferson: Rights of British America, 1774. > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 3 > Wed, 02 Jan 2002 18:29:10 -0500 > goat <goat > Re: Re: pinworms > > kristiehallnoats wrote: > > > I am going to purchase it on line as all the stores around here don't > > have it. I asked one pharmacy worker for the product, and she said > > she had never heard of children getting worms, only pets. Hummmmm.... > > > > Just goes to show the state of " modern " medicine. I'm rather of the school that parasites play a major role in > our health state. I was a medical lab tech in the service (army) and that was one of the beasties that we DID > know how to look for. I can't recall if wormwood has > been discussed (more then likely, I suspect), as the memory may be rather foggy at the > moment, from candida build up (need to brew another quart of Calendula officials tonight). > > -- > Goat (Generalist of all Trades)! > > Jeremiah 50:8 " Flee out of the midst of Babylon, and go forth out of the land of the Chaldeans, and be as the > male goats before the flocks. " > > > " When the representative body have lost the confidence of their constituents, when they have notoriously made > sale of their most valuable rights, when they have assumed to themselves powers which the people never put into > their hands, then, indeed, their continuing in office becomes dangerous to the State, and calls for an > exercise of the power of dissolution. " --Thomas Jefferson: Rights of British America, 1774. > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 4 > Wed, 2 Jan 2002 19:24:14 -0600 > " Schwillings " <ajschwilling > Re: New file uploaded to herbal remedies > > Ahhyyaaiiyyaaii! > Now I'm wondering about the tofu I love to eat. Its Mori Nu Organic and it states on the box that it contains no GMO soybeans in it. I wonder if there is more to the story there? Anyone know the scoop? > > JC = O > > > [This message contained attachments] > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 5 > Wed, 02 Jan 2002 18:42:41 -0500 > goat <goat > Re: Re: pinworms > > Michael Riversong wrote: > > > > > > > Anybody else here aware of Hanna? She was one of this world's truly great herbalists, and taught me a lot in scattered meetings over many years. Her associates seem to be doing a very good job of continuing her established traditions. > > > > Yep, I do try to fellow her work some. The best way to confirm pinworms is to > use some double stick tape on something like a clear piece of plastic (they actually > make a lab device similar) and place it between the buttocks near the anus over night, > as the mother beasty appears there, the anus, while a subject is at rest to lay > her eggs, which is what causes the itching, as the eggs are spiky, purposely. IMHO, > so to cause the itching, so that the subject scratches and then re ingest them (hopefully > adults do not), forming a cycle, so then the eggs stick to the tape, and you can look > for them under a microscope (not sure you can see them with a magnifying glass, as I've > never tried, and I have a pretty good scope). > > -- > Goat (Generalist of all Trades)! > > Jeremiah 50:8 " Flee out of the midst of Babylon, and go forth out of the land of the Chaldeans, and be as the male goats before the flocks. " > > > " When the representative body have lost the confidence of their constituents, when they have notoriously made sale of their most valuable rights, when they have assumed to themselves powers which the people never put into their hands, then, indeed, their continuing in office becomes dangerous to the State, and calls for an exercise of the > power of dissolution. " --Thomas Jefferson: Rights of British America, 1774. > > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 6 > Wed, 2 Jan 2002 16:28:57 EST > Tohelpwilliam > Re: New file uploaded to herbal remedies > > What a bone chilling thought-Dupont supplying the health food industry! > > Thanks for the lesson. > > Love, > Ann in Memphis > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 7 > Thu, 3 Jan 2002 14:03:37 -0700 > " Ian Shillington N.D. " <Dr.IanShillington > A Little Humor > > My wife came up to me this morning after a small argument, and quoted an > old Milton Berle line, > > " A good wife always forgives her husband when she's wrong. " > > I came back with that great line from " GI Jane " , > > " If I wanted your opinion I'd give it to you. " > > It's hard to get serious when there's humor around. > ;o) > > Love, > > Doc > > Ian " Doc " Shillington N.D. > 505-772-5889 > Dr.IanShillington > > > [This message contained attachments] > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 8 > Thu, 3 Jan 2002 19:28:29 -0700 > " Ian Shillington N.D. " <Dr.IanShillington > Ants and Grits - Lice and Rosemary > > I've had great success with using grits for ants. > Can't remember if I used the instant or what. > In Georgia, near Atlanta there were lots of little fire ants on the > playground of our son's school. Some ants were right under the swings > and the kids were getting bitten. So I sprinkled the grits all around > where I saw ants and they disappeared within a day or so. > Another time we had ants in our office in Florida. We put a small pile > of grits on one desk and watched the ants carry the grits off all day. > Again in a day or two no more ants. > I've heard that they eat the grits and the grits swell up inside of them > due to their body moisture and they explode. > This may not work on all types of ants but it is worth a shot since > grits are so inexpensive and the process is so simple. > Also Eucalyptus leaves are suppose to repel fleas. > Drops of essential oils of Rosemary, Thyme and others put into a shampoo > will control lice. I'm not certain if they actually kill lice and eggs > but I know they are a great preventative. I personally love Avalon > brand Rosemary shampoo and use it just because I prefer it but if I were > a mom with a girl in school who had log hair, I think I'd chose it as a > preventative to my child coming down with lice. If you have ever gone > through this ordeal of handling lice when an epidemic breaks out, I > think you will quickly agree. > > Valorie > > > Ian " Doc " Shillington N.D. > 505-772-5889 > Dr.IanShillington > > > [This message contained attachments] > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 9 > Thu, 03 Jan 2002 20:24:16 -0600 > Pat Spelling <pat > Herbal supplements for sale > > Hello, I had the opportunity to buy out some discontinued herb > supplements. These are all factory sealed. Some have expired this past > summer, some are good for the next couple of years. My daughter set up a > webpage listing what I have. > > http://www.redbudtree.com/herbs/ > > The items are shown with the RETAIL price next to them, when we could find > what that was. OUR PRICE, regardless of what the item is: > $4 per bottle, first come, first serve. > > The first item will be $2.00 for shipping with .50 for each additional > item. (shipped in padded envelope, first class) > > Email me at pat with the list of which ones you want, > including your name and address and email address. Please don't post back > to the list. > > Thanks > Pat > > > > ************************************* > Pat Spelling > Website Design and MORE > http://www.patspellinginc.com > > ************************************* > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 10 > Thu, 3 Jan 2002 21:55:10 EST > LJaguar2212 > Re: Ants and Grits - Lice and Rosemary > > Valorie... > > I've heard that about the grits and the ants exploding from them.. how > charming! BUT.. I'm so glad you brought this up ..... I had forgotten all > about it. Thanks for that reminder. Summer will be here in Florida before I > know it.. even though it's brrrrrrr right now... > > Beth > > > > [This message contained attachments] > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 11 > Thu, 3 Jan 2002 21:02:47 -0600 > " Norma Daulton " <ndaulton > Re: Ants and Grits - Lice and Rosemary > > Bless you Ian. We are spending some time in Texas this winter, and the ants are terrible. Gonna try this... have tried every thing else. > Thanks > Norma > > > > I've had great success with using grits for ants. > Can't remember if I used the instant or what. > In Georgia, near Atlanta there were lots of little fire ants on the playground of our son's school. Some ants were right under the swings and the kids were getting bitten. So I sprinkled the grits all around where I saw ants and they disappeared within a day or so. > > > [This message contained attachments] > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 12 > Fri, 04 Jan 2002 05:14:58 -0000 > " lynbes " <sesbpa > RE: Ants and grits lice and Rosemary > > Hey, finally something I can give a suggestion on! I have been > lurking for so long that probably everyone forgot I was here. I have > been getting everyone else's advice on various things on the list. > > Another one I found that works great on lice is tea tree oil. You > can add that to your shampoo, too. I do have a little girl, and it > works great! I have used tea tree oil in the shampoo as a > preventative and whenever she had an outbreak, I would rinse her hair > in a solution thyme and vinegar. I boil thyme in vinegar on my > stove. By the time it's done cooking, I have a quart of all organic > natural lice killer. And yes, the thyme and vinegar solution does > kill those little buggers!! It doesn't get rid of the eggs because > those like to cling to the hair shaft, so I follow up the rinse with > a good combing to get the eggs out. I also found out that if I > doused her head and my head with hairspray whenever I learned of an > outbreak, we wouldn't ever get the little buggers. It seems that > they don't like hair spray or dirty hair for that matter--its because > they can't stick to the hair and get in to the scalp so then they > leave you alone. > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 13 > Fri, 04 Jan 2002 05:16:40 -0000 > " lynbes " <sesbpa > (unknown) > > Ok, nothing like a Monday on a Thursday--I forgot to sign my last > post--I was giving the suggestions about tea tree oil and hairspray. > I'll make sure I sign this one! > > Becky > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 14 > Thu, 3 Jan 2002 23:24:00 -0800 (PST) > Kim intoronto <kimintoronto2001 > please help!! > > My migraines are getting worse and worse and I want to > chop off my head. I used to take fever few, it no > longer works, im allergice to most prescription pain > medicine like codiene etc. > > I think my body may be detoxing itself from years of > benzodiazapine abuse but it seems like the headaches > get worse. I can only go about 20 days off the valium > before I honestly feel I will die from the PAIN!!! > > They tried to put me on antidepressants, then blood > pressure meds, but the blood pressure only gets up > when the headaches have lingered 9 or more friggin > days. Plus she wanted me on paxil to combat the sides > and anxiety of withdrawl from the valium, but the > paxil is addictive so I have learned and don't take > it. > > I think its just detox, but it feels like brain trauma > at its worst. > > Any suggestions, before I go mental? > > Neck, shoulders HEADACHE. > > My vision is normal. > > Kim > > > > > Send your FREE holiday greetings online! > http://greetings. > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2002 Report Share Posted December 12, 2002 -Cara wrote " BTW- we are really having a hard time getting Shu Yang Chuan- which I rely on a lot. does anyone have any leads? What is the latin name of Shu Yang Chuan and what category is it in? I can't find it in Bensky. Thanks,G Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2002 Report Share Posted December 13, 2002 On 12/12/02 8:09 PM, " " wrote: > I can check w/China Herb's manager, but offhand, I agree w/ Will. Bai Shao, > by far, is our fastest mover. BTW- we are really having a hard time getting > Shu Yang Chuan- which I rely on a lot. does anyone have any leads? Kamwo herb co. at 212-966-6370 carries Shu Yang Quan. Maybe it is your spelling of it though? It is also called Bai Mao Teng but I always order it as Shu Yang Quan since there is another herb by the name of Bai Mao Teng. I have also gotten it from Spring Wind. Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2002 Report Share Posted December 13, 2002 Sharon, thanks for the lead. I've never heard of Bai Mao Teng, but i will look it up when I get to the office. regarding polyps;I'm not familiar w/ any written material on this topic, so: I have had success thinking about them as abcesses: and using herbs, like yi yi ren, dong gua ren. jin yin hua, bai jiang cao. Formulas that I've explored inlcude Wei Jing Tang and Wu Wei Xiao du Yin. I have had better results w/ strategies that address phlegm nodules than w/ ones that resolve blood stasis ( which was less successful for me clinically.). Hope that helps! Cara Sharon Weizenbaum <sweiz Fri, 13 Dec 2002 06:16:08 -0500 chinese herb acadamy herb acadamy Re: Digest Number 1237 On 12/12/02 8:09 PM, " " wrote: > I can check w/China Herb's manager, but offhand, I agree w/ Will. Bai Shao, > by far, is our fastest mover. BTW- we are really having a hard time getting > Shu Yang Chuan- which I rely on a lot. does anyone have any leads? Kamwo herb co. at 212-966-6370 carries Shu Yang Quan. Maybe it is your spelling of it though? It is also called Bai Mao Teng but I always order it as Shu Yang Quan since there is another herb by the name of Bai Mao Teng. I have also gotten it from Spring Wind. Sharon Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing education. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2002 Report Share Posted December 13, 2002 the following message is from , 12/12/02 5:09 PM >the chinese are the >kings of face savers Excuse me? Wang Huiyu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2002 Report Share Posted December 13, 2002 the following message is from , 12/12/02 5:09 PM >How different is american rhubarb from >the Chinese? I know that even when the Chinese cultivate rhubarb, they >have their farms at high altitude. I don't know if American rhubarb is >cultivated at high altitude. It is my understanding that where an herb is cultivated is as important as anything in determining its function. I've heard this many times from many doctors in China and here. A couple years ago I went to a lecture by John Shen and someone asked him what he thought about using locally grown herbs, as this person was growing various things in his yard, and Dr Shen chuckled and said one could not do this and expect to get the same product as one would get from the proper/original region. Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2002 Report Share Posted December 13, 2002 Do you mean John Chen, the PharmD and LAc? I don't think it can be said unequivicollay that locally grown herbs cannot be expected to have the same properties as Chinese-grown ones. This is one of the things we are attempting to find out in the Learning Garden, a collaboration among Venice High School, Yo San University and the Herban Farmacy. We have already raised some artemisias, some perilla, some xanthium and others. I cannot believe that plants like perilla, pogostemon, mint, etc would not keep their medicinal properties grown in Southern California. Rhubarb may be a different story. Julie > It is my understanding that where an herb is cultivated is as important > as anything in determining its function. I've heard this many times from > many doctors in China and here. A couple years ago I went to a lecture > by John Shen and someone asked him what he thought about using locally > grown herbs, as this person was growing various things in his yard, and > Dr Shen chuckled and said one could not do this and expect to get the > same product as one would get from the proper/original region. > > Greg > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2002 Report Share Posted December 13, 2002 I assumed he meant the famous John Shen from New York (who passed away a few years ago). There are some medicinals that seem to be more dependent on the growing environment than others. Mints and artemesias seem to do fine in a variety of climates, and have been cultivated widely for that reason. I've grown Chinese herbs such as qing hao and huo xiang with great success here in California, but others such as bupleurum didn't do so well. It would be interesting to do a study to compare levels of medicinal components in wild and cultivated species of different herbs. Xu Da-chun, in the Unschuld translation of " Forgotten Traditions of Ancient " says the following: " a further reason for changes in the qualities of herbs may be sought in differences between natural growth and cultivation through human effort. In ancient times, all herbs gathered grew in mountain valleys. There the original qi had not leaked away, and therefore the herbs received rich quantities of qi. Today, all herbs are cultivated by human beings, and they do not get the true qi of the mountain valleys any longer. Also, the fields are irrigated artificially, hence the qualities of the herbs are unpronounced and weak. " My observation, living in Southern California, is that plant species such as horehound and sagebrush are much less vital and aromatic compared with the same plants growing in mountainous and high plain environments of New Mexico and Colorado. And, as mentioned earlier, the Chinese grow Rhubarb at high altitudes to maximize its medicinal power. Interesting stuff to contemplate. On Friday, December 13, 2002, at 11:32 AM, Julie Chambers wrote: > Do you mean John Chen, the PharmD and LAc? > > I don't think it can be said unequivicollay that locally grown herbs > cannot > be expected to have the same properties as Chinese-grown ones. This is > one > of the things we are attempting to find out in the Learning Garden, a > collaboration among Venice High School, Yo San University and the > Herban > Farmacy. We have already raised some artemisias, some perilla, some > xanthium > and others. I cannot believe that plants like perilla, pogostemon, > mint, etc > would not keep their medicinal properties grown in Southern California. > Rhubarb may be a different story. > > Julie > >> It is my understanding that where an herb is cultivated is as >> important >> as anything in determining its function. I've heard this many times >> from >> many doctors in China and here. A couple years ago I went to a >> lecture >> by John Shen and someone asked him what he thought about using locally >> grown herbs, as this person was growing various things in his yard, >> and >> Dr Shen chuckled and said one could not do this and expect to get the >> same product as one would get from the proper/original region. >> >> Greg >> > > > Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed > healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate > academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety > of professional services, including board approved online continuing > education. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2002 Report Share Posted December 13, 2002 , Julie Chambers <info@j...> wrote: > Do you mean John Chen, the PharmD and LAc? No, I don't take that guy very seriously, to be honest. I meant, as Z'ev said, the late John Shen, who was a very highly regarded practitioner. > > I don't think it can be said unequivicollay that locally grown herbs cannot > be expected to have the same properties as Chinese-grown ones. I think it is fair to say that the properties will not be exactly the same as what one finds written up in source texts on Chinese herbs. While the locally grown herbs will have medicinal properties, it's hard to say how they will have changed, unless you are Li Shi Zhen, of course. :-) > of the things we are attempting to find out in the Learning Garden, a > collaboration among Venice High School, Yo San University and the Herban > Farmacy. We have already raised some artemisias, some perilla, some xanthium > and others. I cannot believe that plants like perilla, pogostemon, mint, etc > would not keep their medicinal properties grown in Southern California. > Rhubarb may be a different story. It's a worthwile thing to work on as it would be nice to have good quality locally grown herbs available to us. China is so polluted, and I am often afraid of loose herbs and what they might be contaminated with. I've seen, as a matter of routine, herbs spread out on cement courtyards to dry/air out, with pollution raining down on them. This does not inspire confidence. Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 - Tuesday, February 10, 2004 7:24 PM Digest Number 1237 > There are 25 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. Re: The onion extract > " Michael Gest " <mhgest > 2. Re: OT: Relations > WoobeyQueen > 3. OT: Relations ** And ** Beer > Butch Owen <butchbsi > 4. RE: New Member Intro > " Christine Ziegler " <chrisziggy > 5. Re: OT: Relations ** And ** Beer > WoobeyQueen > 6. Re:Heli and Rosehip Seed for scars > " sandra " <san6 > 7. OT: Relations ** And ** Beer > Butch Owen <butchbsi > 8. Heli and Rosehip Seed for Scars > Butch Owen <butchbsi > 9. Re: yoga > J Grothem <jlgrothem > 10. Re: OT: Relations > Deonia2 > 11. Re: Digest Number 1235 > Deonia2 > 12. OT: Do We Really Need to Know This Stuff ? > Butch Owen <butchbsi > 13. Re: Re:Heli and Rosehip Seed for scars > Cheryl Smith <female_tigress > 14. Re: Re:BEESWAX SITE > " Pam " <pam > 15. Re: Re: The onion extract > " jenn333 " <jenn333 > 16. Coop Helichrysum Corsica > Janet Golden-Hogan <janetkgolden > 17. Re: Re: yoga > " Debra McDuffee " <deb > 18. RE: yoga > " Kati Toney " <tktoney > 19. Re: Re:BEESWAX SITE > SprtDrmr > 20. Re: OT: Relations ** And ** Beer > " mlmhrb " <mbell > 21. Re: > Heavenlyclouds > 22. RE: OT: Relations ** And ** Beer > " Shimai " <shimai > 23. Re: Re:BEESWAX SITE > Cheryl Smith <female_tigress > 24. Re: RE: yoga > Cheryl Smith <female_tigress > 25. Re: > Cheryl Smith <female_tigress > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 1 > Tue, 10 Feb 2004 18:42:12 -0000 > " Michael Gest " <mhgest > Re: The onion extract > > , " Steven Allensworth " > <worth249@e...> wrote: > > I do this only use my crock pot. Set it on low and keep the water level high . . > . I keep mine " steeping " for 2 or 3 days. Works great. > > -Helen > > > What do you use this for? Wouldn't it make onion soup in a crock pot with lots > of water? > > Michael > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 2 > Tue, 10 Feb 2004 13:45:17 EST > WoobeyQueen > Re: OT: Relations > > Gave me a headache just reading it! ACK! > > ROFLMAO! > > K > > Cheers! > Kathleen Petrides > The Woobey Queen > Woobeys: The Loving Touch Therapeutic Pillow > http://www.woobeyworld.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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