Please, and suggestions would be appreciated.

[Guest guest]

I am a member of Herbal Remedies group but really do not know how to post to

the group. I really do not know what to do. Let me give you just a little

background. My wife was in an auto accident about 25 years ago. She was

very seriously injured, including multiple breaks of her right leg. Because

of this her right leg is about 1 1/2 inches shorter than her left. She has

always had some pain from this,but for the last while the pain has gotten

much worse. Our MD just diagnosed degenerative osteoarthritis, and said

that there is no known cure. He has given her a stronger pain killer and

suggested Physical Therapy, which we will start this week. She has been

taking extra calcium, glucosamine, chondroitin, and shark cartilage for over

a year now. The pain is so intence that she can not function at times.

Anything that you could suggest would be greatly appreciated.

Michael Wolfe

[Guest guest]

Michael,

have you tried MSM ? Start with 3 a day (500 mg) for a week , then 2 for a week then 1 and continue.

Suzi

 

"Wolfe, Michael (LIB)" <mgwolfe wrote: I am a member of Herbal Remedies group but really do not know how to post tothe group. I really do not know what to do. Let me give you just a littlebackground. My wife was in an auto accident about 25 years ago. She wasvery seriously injured, including multiple breaks of her right leg. Becauseof this her right leg is about 1 1/2 inches shorter than her left. She hasalways had some pain from this,but for the last while the pain has gottenmuch worse. Our MD just diagnosed degenerative osteoarthritis, and saidthat there is no known cure. He has given her a stronger pain killer andsuggested Physical Therapy, which we will start this week. She has beentaking extra calcium, glucosamine, chondroitin, and shark cartilage for overa year now. The pain is so intence that she can not function at times.Anything that you could suggest would be greatly appreciated.Michael Wolfe

[Guest guest]

At 12:33 PM -0500 4/29/02, Wolfe, Michael (LIB) wrote:

> I am a member of Herbal Remedies group but really do not know how to post to

> the group. I really do not know what to do. Let me give you just a little

> background. My wife was in an auto accident about 25 years ago. She was

> very seriously injured, including multiple breaks of her right leg. Because

> of this her right leg is about 1 1/2 inches shorter than her left. She has

> always had some pain from this,but for the last while the pain has gotten

> much worse. Our MD just diagnosed degenerative osteoarthritis, and said

> that there is no known cure. He has given her a stronger pain killer and

> suggested Physical Therapy, which we will start this week. She has been

> taking extra calcium, glucosamine, chondroitin, and shark cartilage for over

> a year now. The pain is so intence that she can not function at times.

> Anything that you could suggest would be greatly appreciated.

 

Go to Boston. I think it is Cooley who are the great leg lengtheners.

 

First get her legs the same length or the spine is going to be pounding badly.

 

Movement therapies (mine, Pilates, Felendkrais), yoga (not the position crap

you see so much but the stuff taught as motions, Tai chi

 

Where is the pain? There are topical ointments (christ I have been saying

this so much over the last month on this list I need to buy stock in these

companies!) ArthoFlex and MSM with glucosaimine will assist along with what

she is taking internally.

 

Personally I think shark cartilige is over rated, but that is just my

personal take on it.

 

Zip

 

The Dragonmaster

Heaven on Earth

 

dragonmasterzip

 

He who rules truly serves and she who serves truly rules.

[Guest guest]

> yoga (not the position

> crap

> you see so much

 

" The position crap? " As a teacher and practicer of the " position crap " you

mention, I'm interested in why you would use such a derogatory term to

describe it.

 

Ann

 

 

--- Zip <dragonmasterzip wrote:

> At 12:33 PM -0500 4/29/02, Wolfe, Michael (LIB) wrote:

> > I am a member of Herbal Remedies group but really do not know how to

> post to

> > the group. I really do not know what to do. Let me give you just a

> little

> > background. My wife was in an auto accident about 25 years ago. She

> was

> > very seriously injured, including multiple breaks of her right leg.

> Because

> > of this her right leg is about 1 1/2 inches shorter than her left. She

> has

> > always had some pain from this,but for the last while the pain has

> gotten

> > much worse. Our MD just diagnosed degenerative osteoarthritis, and

> said

> > that there is no known cure. He has given her a stronger pain killer

> and

> > suggested Physical Therapy, which we will start this week. She has

> been

> > taking extra calcium, glucosamine, chondroitin, and shark cartilage for

> over

> > a year now. The pain is so intence that she can not function at times.

> > Anything that you could suggest would be greatly appreciated.

>

> Go to Boston. I think it is Cooley who are the great leg lengtheners.

>

> First get her legs the same length or the spine is going to be pounding

> badly.

>

> Movement therapies (mine, Pilates, Felendkrais), yoga (not the position

> crap

> you see so much but the stuff taught as motions, Tai chi

>

> Where is the pain? There are topical ointments (christ I have been

> saying

> this so much over the last month on this list I need to buy stock in

> these

> companies!) ArthoFlex and MSM with glucosaimine will assist along with

> what

> she is taking internally.

>

> Personally I think shark cartilige is over rated, but that is just my

> personal take on it.

>

> Zip

>

> The Dragonmaster

> Heaven on Earth

>

> dragonmasterzip

>

> He who rules truly serves and she who serves truly rules.

 

 

 

 

Health - your guide to health and wellness

http://health.

[Guest guest]

At 12:28 PM -0700 4/30/02, Ann Melin wrote:

> > yoga (not the position

> > crap

> > you see so much

>

> " The position crap? " As a teacher and practicer of the " position crap " you

> mention, I'm interested in why you would use such a derogatory term to

> describe it.

 

Pardon me Ann for upszetting you when I write late at night I can sometimes

not be as tactful as I should be.

 

Originally, yoga was taught much in the way Tai Chi is taught. It was not

Postures but movements. it was a flowing thing.

 

The stuff which teaches " positions " is a lot like the people who teach

martial arts using Kata (the ritualized forms) as opposed to poeple who use

some kata as a way of practicing a variety of thing, but really focus in

actual hand to hand combat.

 

If you ever take the time to find a person who can teach you yoga as it was

orignally developed you will understand why I said what I said. Given that

the postion C is better than not doing anything, but

 

nothing compared to yoga which teaches one to flow.

 

Zip

 

The Dragonmaster

Heaven on Earth

 

dragonmasterzip

 

He who rules truly serves and she who serves truly rules.

[Guest guest]

Hi Zip,

To avoid getting too off topic, I'll keep this as brief as possible. There

are many styles of asana practice around that are totally based upon doing

postures within a flow: Astanga Vinyasa, Kali Rae Triyoga, Synergy, and

Bikram to name a few. Now, I imagine that these are somewhat different from

what you're speaking of since these are pretty core yoga flows known in the

Western world and in which there is a duplicate emphasis on getting still

within postures and keeping the flow through the postures moving at a

steady pace. However, every yoga class I've ever taken moves through

whatever postures they choose to do in a particular sequence to move energy

through the body in a particular way. There are some Iyengar classes out

there that will only teach 4-5 postures in an hour and focus strictly on

alignment and I'd agree that those classes probably don't have the same

benefit for moving through blocked energy as a class which flows more.

There are many different methods out there to bring healing into the body

and it's up to each person to find out what works best for him/her. I've

seen practicing yoga postures do incredible things for people including

bringing balance into the body of a friend of mine who contacted polio from

a live vaccine at age 6. She can now dance, run, and move around as well as

anybody. I also had a man come into my class who'd had a stroke. At first

he had to sit in the back of the class room so that he could use the window

sill to pull him up from a sitting position into a standing position. After

only a few short months, he can now get up on his own and even balance on

one leg. There are also people who come to class and never make any

progress. So it is. Much of it is the attitude with which you approach what

you're doing. I'd be interested in knowing what sort of yoga it is that

you've studied as I'm sure there is much benefit in knowing more about it.

My only objection to your original statement was that you called something

which has benefitted many many people in many positive ways, " crap " . And to

me, that is not a fair assessment of the discipline. There are over 700

people on this list. Perhaps one person who may have found great healing

through practicing yoga positions would have decided not to seek out the

practice because it had been referred to in a negative way by somebody who

seems to have knowledge about it. To me, that could be a bit destructive

and unfair. May all methods which bring about health and healing, to even

one person, be respected.

 

My .02 cents.

 

Ann

 

--- Zip <dragonmasterzip wrote:

> At 12:28 PM -0700 4/30/02, Ann Melin wrote:

>

> Pardon me Ann for upszetting you when I write late at night I can

> sometimes

> not be as tactful as I should be.

>

> Originally, yoga was taught much in the way Tai Chi is taught. It was not

> Postures but movements. it was a flowing thing.

>

> The stuff which teaches " positions " is a lot like the people who teach

> martial arts using Kata (the ritualized forms) as opposed to poeple who

> use

> some kata as a way of practicing a variety of thing, but really focus in

> actual hand to hand combat.

>

> If you ever take the time to find a person who can teach you yoga as it

> was

> orignally developed you will understand why I said what I said. Given

> that

> the postion C is better than not doing anything, but

>

> nothing compared to yoga which teaches one to flow.

>

> Zip

>

> The Dragonmaster

> Heaven on Earth

>

> dragonmasterzip

>

> He who rules truly serves and she who serves truly rules.

 

 

 

 

Health - your guide to health and wellness

http://health.