Guest guest Posted December 30, 2002 Report Share Posted December 30, 2002 All my life, drinking carrot juice has turned my skin very yellow--almost orange in fact. So, when I first read it, I didn't completely believe the following statement by Norman Walker, in his " Fresh Vegetable and Fruit Juices " : " Intestinal and liver diseases are sometimes due to a lack of certain of the elements contained in properly preared raw carrot juice. When this is the case, then a noticeable cleaning up of the liver may take place, and the material which was clogging may be found to dissolve. Frequently this is released so abundantly that the intesinal and urinary channels are inadequate to care for this overflow, and in a perfectly natural manner, it is passed into the lymph for elination from the body by means of the pores of the skin. This material has a distinctly orange or yellow pigment and whle it is being so eliminated from the body will sometimes discolor the skin. Whenever such a discoloration takes place after drinking carrot or other juices, it is an indication that the liver is getting a well-needed cleansing. " It is NOT the carrot juice itself nor the carotene that comes through the skin, as this discoloration will take place even if the juice is filtered to the point of clearing it of all colored pigment. It is just as practical an impossibility for the carrot pigment itself to come through the skin as it would be for the red pigment of the beet to turn the body red or the chlorophyll of the green vegetables to paint the skin green from within. " I now think Walker is right. I've gone back to drinking large quantities of carrot juice, but this time I'm also using the Gerson coffee enemas--which among other things open the bile ducts and restore liver function. And I'm maintaining my normal color now! Claire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2002 Report Share Posted December 31, 2002 on 12/30/02 8:29 PM, Claire at Gettingwell wrote: > Turning Yellow--Or Not > All my life, drinking carrot juice has turned my skin very yellow--almost > orange in fact. So, when I first read it, I didn't completely believe the > following statement by Norman Walker, in his " Fresh Vegetable and Fruit > Juices " : ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Claire, those with hypothyroidism may not be able to efficiently convert beta-carotene to vitamin A. Historically one of the earliest ways of diagnosing hypothyroidism was noting yellow skin pigmentation when beta carotene was consumed even at lower doses. I hope you are exploring this clue as well. -- Joan McPhee, not an M.D. mcpheej -- Please note new email address and update your address book Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2003 Report Share Posted January 1, 2003 Hi Joan, <Claire, those with hypothyroidism may not be able to efficiently convert beta-carotene to vitamin A. Historically one of the earliest ways of diagnosing hypothyroidism was noting yellow skin pigmentation when beta carotene was consumed even at lower doses. This is a really interesting idea and six months ago I would have accepted it as an explanation of my own situation--a life long hypothyroid who turned yellow with just a week of so of winter squash eating. But it doesn't explain why now--after six months of ingesting raw carrot juice from about 4 " horse " sized carrots a day, I haven't even a hint of yellow in my skin. I'm pretty sure I'm still hypothyroid--during this last healing crisis my temp was down to 96.4 during the day--when I didn't have a fever. If it isn't the coffee enemas, then maybe it's the other vegetables I'm drinking in. Since you say " may not be able to efficiently convert " I guess it's possible those other vegetables are helping with the conversion. I don't know. I have started taking Lugol's Solution (of iodine)--but that was just two days ago, so that doesn't factor in. Claire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2003 Report Share Posted January 2, 2003 Joan, <Hi Claire, perhaps it's the iodine (which is needed for the production of thyroxine) that's helping your thyroid function to the point where you don't turn yellow when ingesting your raw carrot juice. I think you were reading my post too fast. <g> Here's what I said. <I have started taking Lugol's Solution (of iodine)--but that was just two days ago, so that doesn't factor in. I think there isn't any question of my life-long hypothyroidism--although the conventional tests have rarely shown it--based on early morning temp readings and other symptoms I found a couple of books (Barnes incl.). And there isn't any question that the ability now to handle a very high ingestion of carrot juice without turning yellow is something entirely new and apparently the result of this Gerson protocol I'm following. So that means, it seems, that either the other veggies I use in the juices or the coffee enemas are causing this change. I suspect it's the enemas, opening up the bile ducts, but really have no idea. Not that I need to know. I'm delighted with the change. Claire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2003 Report Share Posted January 2, 2003 on 1/1/03 10:12 PM, Claire at Gettingwell wrote: > Re: Turning Yellow--Or Not > Hi Joan, ....SNIP... > But it doesn't explain why now--after six months of ingesting raw carrot > juice from about 4 " horse " sized carrots a day, I haven't even a hint of > yellow in my skin. I'm pretty sure I'm still hypothyroid--during this last > healing crisis my temp was down to 96.4 during the day--when I didn't have a > fever. > > If it isn't the coffee enemas, then maybe it's the other vegetables I'm > drinking in. Since you say " may not be able to efficiently convert " I guess > it's possible those other vegetables are helping with the conversion. I > don't know. > > I have started taking Lugol's Solution (of iodine)--but that was just two > days ago, so that doesn't factor in. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hi Claire, perhaps it's the iodine (which is needed for the production of thyroxine) that's helping your thyroid function to the point where you don't turn yellow when ingesting your raw carrot juice. Based on Dr. Barnes' thyroid theories, a temp of 96.4 would still indicate some hypo activity. Do you have any of the more obvious symptoms of hypothyroidism such as fatigue, dry and brittle hair and nails, inability to lose weight? The other veggies you're consuming would be a good thing, but remember that cruciferous veggies inhibit the production of thyroxine. They include cabbage, broccoli, brussel sprouts, cauliflower, kale. Thyroid malfunction, especially low or hypo-function, can be the underlying cause for a number of physical and emotional signs, symptoms, and findings. Some things caused or worsened by thyroid dysfunction include: Increased cholesterol Decreased white blood cell count Suppressed Immune System function Decreased blood sugar Excess adrenaline production Increased cortisol production Increased or decreased blood pressure Symptoms of Hypothyroidism include: -Acne -Agitation -Allergies -Asthma -Apathy -Athlete¹s foot -Bladder disorders -Blurred vision -Boils -Brittle, splitting nails (transverse ridges in thumb especially) -Carpal Tunnel Syndrome -Chest pain -Coated tongue -Cold hands and feet -Colds -Colitis -Confusion -Constipation -Coughing and wheezing -Dandruff -Dark circles under the eyes -Depression -Diabetes -Diarrhea -Dizziness -Drowsiness -Dry lips and skin -Eczema -Endometriosis -Excessive sleeping -Failure to ovulate -Fainting spells -Fatigue -Fibromyalgia -Fluid retention -Food allergies -Food cravings, weakness, shaking -Forgetfulness -Frequent urination -Fungal infections -Gas -Generalized swelling‹hands, feet and ankles, around eyes, stomach -Hair loss -Hallucinations (rare) -Headache -Heavy menstrual bleeding -High cholesterol -Hives -Hoarseness -Hyperactivity -Inability to lose weight -Infertility -Insomnia -Irritability -Irritable bowel syndrome -Itching, burning eyes -Itchy ears -Itchy, stuffy, runny nose -Joint pains -Leaking breasts -Long cycles -Low blood pressure -Low blood sugar -Low basal temperature -Menstrual irregularities -Migraine -Missing periods -Mitral valve prolapse -Mood swings -Mouth ulcers -Muscle aches and pains -Muscle weakness -Nervousness -Nightmares -Nosebleeds -Numbness and tingling -Other vaginal infections -Painful periods -Panic and anxiety -Palpitations -Paranoia -Photosensitivity (sensitive to light) -PMS -Poor concentration -Poor response to the pill -Post nasal drip -Postpartum depression -Premature menopause -Puffy eyes -Rage -Rapid or irregular pulse -Recurrent bronchitis/pneumonia/infections -Red eyes -Respiratory infections -Ringing in the ears -Seizures -Sensitivity to noise -Short-term memory loss -Shortness of breath -Sinusitis -Slow pulse -Sore, fibrocystic breasts -Sore throat -Spontaneous bruising -Spaciness -Spots before the eyes -Suicidal thoughts -Swollen joints -Teary eyes -Thin, brittle, sparse hair -Toxemia in pregnancy -Trouble swallowing -Water retention -Yeast infections -- Joan McPhee, not an M.D. mcpheej -- Please note new email address and update your address book Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2003 Report Share Posted January 2, 2003 I am in a group for digestive enzymes. When the product No-Fenol was introduced last spring (from www.houstonni.com), a number of people commented that their children's skin was no longer orangy looking. No-Fenol was designed to help some people process phenols in fruits and vegetables (these kids would have a bad reaction to these foods and this allows them to eat fresh fruits, vegetables, and a few other things). But we did not know why this would be except that it process the beta-carotene or something better. I am having trouble following that very complicated thyroids, liver function, etc issues. Is this related to detoxification of the body in general? Can some one help me out here? Any one got a clue how this is connected to taking a digestive enzymes (contains mostly xylanase and cellulase). Karen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2003 Report Share Posted January 3, 2003 Hi, i/ve been following this post, am also taking lugols - since about 2 weeks ago, i've muscle tested for it and on that basis am taking 10 drops a day on the skin. Ive had many many hypo symptoms for decades. Of course these tests are not 100 percent reliable for sure, anyway i am wondering how long it should take to feel some results. Thanks in advance and happy new year.. scarlett Joan McPhee [mcpheej] Thursday, January 02, 2003 1:04 PM Gettingwell Re: Turning Yellow--Or Not on 1/1/03 10:12 PM, Claire at Gettingwell wrote: > Re: Turning Yellow--Or Not > Hi Joan, ....SNIP... > But it doesn't explain why now--after six months of ingesting raw carrot > juice from about 4 " horse " sized carrots a day, I haven't even a hint of > yellow in my skin. I'm pretty sure I'm still hypothyroid--during this last > healing crisis my temp was down to 96.4 during the day--when I didn't have a > fever. > > If it isn't the coffee enemas, then maybe it's the other vegetables I'm > drinking in. Since you say " may not be able to efficiently convert " I guess > it's possible those other vegetables are helping with the conversion. I > don't know. > > I have started taking Lugol's Solution (of iodine)--but that was just two > days ago, so that doesn't factor in. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hi Claire, perhaps it's the iodine (which is needed for the production of thyroxine) that's helping your thyroid function to the point where you don't turn yellow when ingesting your raw carrot juice. Based on Dr. Barnes' thyroid theories, a temp of 96.4 would still indicate some hypo activity. Do you have any of the more obvious symptoms of hypothyroidism such as fatigue, dry and brittle hair and nails, inability to lose weight? The other veggies you're consuming would be a good thing, but remember that cruciferous veggies inhibit the production of thyroxine. They include cabbage, broccoli, brussel sprouts, cauliflower, kale. Thyroid malfunction, especially low or hypo-function, can be the underlying cause for a number of physical and emotional signs, symptoms, and findings. Some things caused or worsened by thyroid dysfunction include: Increased cholesterol Decreased white blood cell count Suppressed Immune System function Decreased blood sugar Excess adrenaline production Increased cortisol production Increased or decreased blood pressure Symptoms of Hypothyroidism include: -Acne -Agitation -Allergies -Asthma -Apathy -Athlete¹s foot -Bladder disorders -Blurred vision -Boils -Brittle, splitting nails (transverse ridges in thumb especially) -Carpal Tunnel Syndrome -Chest pain -Coated tongue -Cold hands and feet -Colds -Colitis -Confusion -Constipation -Coughing and wheezing -Dandruff -Dark circles under the eyes -Depression -Diabetes -Diarrhea -Dizziness -Drowsiness -Dry lips and skin -Eczema -Endometriosis -Excessive sleeping -Failure to ovulate -Fainting spells -Fatigue -Fibromyalgia -Fluid retention -Food allergies -Food cravings, weakness, shaking -Forgetfulness -Frequent urination -Fungal infections -Gas -Generalized swelling‹hands, feet and ankles, around eyes, stomach -Hair loss -Hallucinations (rare) -Headache -Heavy menstrual bleeding -High cholesterol -Hives -Hoarseness -Hyperactivity -Inability to lose weight -Infertility -Insomnia -Irritability -Irritable bowel syndrome -Itching, burning eyes -Itchy ears -Itchy, stuffy, runny nose -Joint pains -Leaking breasts -Long cycles -Low blood pressure -Low blood sugar -Low basal temperature -Menstrual irregularities -Migraine -Missing periods -Mitral valve prolapse -Mood swings -Mouth ulcers -Muscle aches and pains -Muscle weakness -Nervousness -Nightmares -Nosebleeds -Numbness and tingling -Other vaginal infections -Painful periods -Panic and anxiety -Palpitations -Paranoia -Photosensitivity (sensitive to light) -PMS -Poor concentration -Poor response to the pill -Post nasal drip -Postpartum depression -Premature menopause -Puffy eyes -Rage -Rapid or irregular pulse -Recurrent bronchitis/pneumonia/infections -Red eyes -Respiratory infections -Ringing in the ears -Seizures -Sensitivity to noise -Short-term memory loss -Shortness of breath -Sinusitis -Slow pulse -Sore, fibrocystic breasts -Sore throat -Spontaneous bruising -Spaciness -Spots before the eyes -Suicidal thoughts -Swollen joints -Teary eyes -Thin, brittle, sparse hair -Toxemia in pregnancy -Trouble swallowing -Water retention -Yeast infections -- Joan McPhee, not an M.D. mcpheej -- Please note new email address and update your address book Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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