Guest guest Posted January 30, 2003 Report Share Posted January 30, 2003 Dear Group, Yes, This is a good sign, but...... I have been hearing about this for a couple of days now. I trust Thompson about as far as I could throw him. My personal opinion is don't hold your breath waiting for it to happen, I suspect it will be a very long time before any alternative treatments are ever paid for by any form of insurance. There are a lot of treatments now that are recognized as being kinda semi establishment, but not big pharma types, that are not reimbursable now. My distrust of the entrenched politics and money at stake here, I don't see it as a simple matter of recognition of insurance codes to " legitamize " alternative methods. I think that they are dangling a carrot here in hopes of gaining something somewhere. Just my 2 cents Frank http://www.internetwks.com/BOLENREPORT/articles/timbolen.html Tommy Thompson sides with " Health Freedom " on MAJOR issue... Opinion by Consumer Advocate Tim Bolen January 27th, 2003 I've got the BIGGEST story in North American Health Freedom, EVER. Here it is. The conventional medicine stranglehold on health care has been broken - period. It was done in Health & Human Services Director Tommy Thompson's office on January 16th, 2003 when Thompson SIGNED the approvals to use a new billing code system called ABC Codes in HIPAA transactions. I told you the Bush administration was on the side of " health " before. Some of you doubted. Here's another example... Let me explain. Prior to Thompson's action, the world of health practitioners had been dependent, for billing, on two basic systems. One is called the " Diagnostic Codes, " and the other is known as the Physicians’ " Current Procedural Terminology or CPT® codes. " The World Health Organization (WHO) owns the rights to the " Diagnostic Codes. " The American Medical Association (AMA) owns the rights to the " " Current Procedural Terminology or CPT® codes. " Each gets paid money each time the code is used. The codes, both sets, are used to bill Medicare, health insurance, etc. The WHO " Diagnostic Codes " are simply that - diagnostic codes. But it was the CPT® codes that became the ISSUE in health care. Simply, the AMA would NOT issue codes for alternative health care. Congress told them. Federal Judges told them. Their membership told them. They didn't listen. What was happening, of course, was that the AMA was controlling, through its codes, or lack of codes, what actual procedures would be paid for, and which ones would NOT be paid for. That's over. The AMA has lost. January 16th, 2003 was their " Waterloo. " Enter, from stage left - ABC Codes - which are designed specifically for alternative practitioners. Understand this. Thompson signed off on the first part of the project - a two year sort of pilot program, where they see how well it works. It's up to YOU to see that it works well... There is a 60 day sign-up period. The clock is running. It started January 16th, 2003. Health practitioners - GET INVOLVED IN THIS RIGHT NOW! There is a website you need to visit to read more about this. Read ALL of it. I've been on the phone with the ABC Codes project people yesterday, and today, at length. They'll have their website updated for the information you need to be PART of this VERY soon. They have gained the approval of not only Tommy Thompson, but every agency of " standards " in the United States. They have over 4,200 codes available right now. You've got to go to the website www.alternativelink.com right now. If you're a practitioner, you don't have ANYTHING better to do in the next half hour. Go do it. You're welcome... And, yes, you may pass this story along to anyone. Tim Bolen - Consumer Advocate Gettingwell- / Vitamins, Herbs, Aminos, etc. To , e-mail to: Gettingwell- Or, go to our group site: Gettingwell Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2003 Report Share Posted January 30, 2003 Got to disagree with you on this one, Frank. You may not like Tommy but this is a HUGE win. Unfortunately, I deal with HIPAA a lot and this is a really big issue. To have the government's support on this issue will really be a big boost, but we cannot take it for granted. Now is the time to get behind this and support the decision. Ken - " Frank " <califpacific <gettingwell > Wednesday, January 29, 2003 6:45 PM Tommy Thompson sides with " Health Freedom " on MAJOR issue... Dear Group, Yes, This is a good sign, but...... I have been hearing about this for a couple of days now. I trust Thompson about as far as I could throw him. My personal opinion is don't hold your breath waiting for it to happen, I suspect it will be a very long time before any alternative treatments are ever paid for by any form of insurance. There are a lot of treatments now that are recognized as being kinda semi establishment, but not big pharma types, that are not reimbursable now. My distrust of the entrenched politics and money at stake here, I don't see it as a simple matter of recognition of insurance codes to " legitamize " alternative methods. I think that they are dangling a carrot here in hopes of gaining something somewhere. Just my 2 cents Frank http://www.internetwks.com/BOLENREPORT/articles/timbolen.html Tommy Thompson sides with " Health Freedom " on MAJOR issue... Opinion by Consumer Advocate Tim Bolen January 27th, 2003 I've got the BIGGEST story in North American Health Freedom, EVER. Here it is. The conventional medicine stranglehold on health care has been broken - period. It was done in Health & Human Services Director Tommy Thompson's office on January 16th, 2003 when Thompson SIGNED the approvals to use a new billing code system called ABC Codes in HIPAA transactions. I told you the Bush administration was on the side of " health " before. Some of you doubted. Here's another example... Let me explain. Prior to Thompson's action, the world of health practitioners had been dependent, for billing, on two basic systems. One is called the " Diagnostic Codes, " and the other is known as the Physicians' " Current Procedural Terminology or CPT® codes. " The World Health Organization (WHO) owns the rights to the " Diagnostic Codes. " The American Medical Association (AMA) owns the rights to the " " Current Procedural Terminology or CPT® codes. " Each gets paid money each time the code is used. The codes, both sets, are used to bill Medicare, health insurance, etc. The WHO " Diagnostic Codes " are simply that - diagnostic codes. But it was the CPT® codes that became the ISSUE in health care. Simply, the AMA would NOT issue codes for alternative health care. Congress told them. Federal Judges told them. Their membership told them. They didn't listen. What was happening, of course, was that the AMA was controlling, through its codes, or lack of codes, what actual procedures would be paid for, and which ones would NOT be paid for. That's over. The AMA has lost. January 16th, 2003 was their " Waterloo. " Enter, from stage left - ABC Codes - which are designed specifically for alternative practitioners. Understand this. Thompson signed off on the first part of the project - a two year sort of pilot program, where they see how well it works. It's up to YOU to see that it works well... There is a 60 day sign-up period. The clock is running. It started January 16th, 2003. Health practitioners - GET INVOLVED IN THIS RIGHT NOW! There is a website you need to visit to read more about this. Read ALL of it. I've been on the phone with the ABC Codes project people yesterday, and today, at length. They'll have their website updated for the information you need to be PART of this VERY soon. They have gained the approval of not only Tommy Thompson, but every agency of " standards " in the United States. They have over 4,200 codes available right now. You've got to go to the website www.alternativelink.com right now. If you're a practitioner, you don't have ANYTHING better to do in the next half hour. Go do it. You're welcome... And, yes, you may pass this story along to anyone. Tim Bolen - Consumer Advocate Gettingwell- / Vitamins, Herbs, Aminos, etc. To , e-mail to: Gettingwell- Or, go to our group site: Gettingwell Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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