Guest guest Posted February 15, 2003 Report Share Posted February 15, 2003 Dear Group, This group is about natural healing it is not about the relative merits of different pharmacuetical drugs. I read the last few days posts and some members are touting the merits of drugs to treat different conditions. some of you are either posting the wrong type of posts here or you are in the wrong group. There are many natural things for high blood pressure, osteoporosis, and even thyroid, or most other conditions. This list is supposed to be about not taking drugs, as they usually are just body damaging chemicals to treat a symptom, rather than making the body healthy, through a healthy diet, nutritional supplementation, detoxing of chemicals and heavy metals,herbs, etc. The body is a complete ecosystem not a bunch of parts. If one part is affected that means that your ecosystem is screwed up. Yes, you may have to treat it longer to get a response with natural means but it wil probably be treating the root causes of the illness, rather that just the symptom. For you newbiews, please try reading some. Read the back posts. Read the links. Get some idea what the problems really are, not only your one or two symptoms that you are trying to treat. It is not only a solution to a specific problem it is a completely different way to see illness and health. Specific nutrients will effect different symptoms, and nutrients will work like drugs, although drugs will never work like nutrients. Drugs are usually a very poor unnatural chemical, unknown in nature, designed to do something a naturally occuring substance like a nutrient or herb does naturally. Drugs are almost always toxic, if you don't really understand that word then insert the word poison. If you take any poison in suffiecient quatities, or over suffiecient time, you will suffer from the poisonous effects and damage to your body and it's organs. (Only in western cultures have you been brainwashed to believe that poison equates with health. You have been sold a bill of goods.) So instead of rebalancing your ecosystem you are putting more toxins into it and polluting it further. Then the medical industry prescribes layer on top of layer of drugs to treat more and more symtoms from the more and more poisoning. Then you have protracted illnesses and early death. That is what this group is about. No or very minimal drugs and cleaning up your polluted body and giving it the nutrients to heal and herbs to help correct and support that healing. If you want to discuss medications (poisons) you are most likely on the wrong list, or you have not educated yourself to the point where you understand the basic concept yet. Anyway read, read, read,... read books,... read back posts,... read the research through the links,... read the posts when others post natural healing messages,... or read about the pollutants that cause illness,... but open your mind, and take in information to counteract all of that sales propaganda, from industrialized medicine, you have taken in all of your life. In most cases, No more posts touting the attributes of pharmacueticals will be allowed on this list. I have said it in many ways what this list is about, (sometimes almost daily) but some don't seem to get the message. respectfully, Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2003 Report Share Posted February 15, 2003 > This group is about natural healing it is not about the relative > merits of different pharmacuetical drugs. _ Right on, I agree with this. Such comparisons should be taken off group for private discussions. And it shows how a single posting off this philosophy can spin off. I recall the original post off topic that started the comparisions of the various BP meds was one forwarded by FRANK headed: - Tue, 11 Feb 2003 15:20:01 -0500 WC Douglass Contents under pressure - Which compared the realtive merits of 3 different BP prescription meds, and therefore invited all the comparisons. Just one post comparing prescription meds and the whole thing gets off track. And that posting was quoting flawed testing and therefore invited correction and the resulting off topic spin. Keep it natural and don't let any of these druggie comparison FWDs through. rusty. - <califpacific Saturday, February 15, 2003 12:21 AM Natural Healing vs. Drug Posts > Dear Group, > > This group is about natural healing it is not about the relative > merits of different pharmacuetical drugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2003 Report Share Posted February 15, 2003 Dear Frank, I totally agree with everything you say, and the philosophy expressed by this board, but am wondering if you are also viewing natural hormones (Armour thyroid, progesterone, DHEA etc) as pharmaceuticals? I hope that is not the case, but would respect your wishes if it is. It is estimated that 40% of the population is hypothyroid, with all the terrible health problems that it brings. I tried for 30 years to use natural means for my symptoms, and I can tell you, there is no substitute for thyroid hormone. Is thyroid hormone a pharmaceutical? Gracia > Dear Group, > > This group is about natural healing it is not about the relative > merits of different pharmacuetical drugs. > > I read the last few days posts and some members are touting the > merits of drugs to treat different conditions. > > some of you are either posting the wrong type of posts here or you > are in the wrong group. > > There are many natural things for high blood pressure, osteoporosis, > and even thyroid, or most other conditions. > > This list is supposed to be about not taking drugs, as they usually > are just body damaging chemicals to treat a symptom, rather than > making the body healthy, through a healthy diet, nutritional > supplementation, detoxing of chemicals and heavy metals,herbs, etc. > > The body is a complete ecosystem not a bunch of parts. If one part is > affected that means that your ecosystem is screwed up. Yes, you may > have to treat it longer to get a response with natural means but it > wil probably be treating the root causes of the illness, rather that > just the symptom. > > For you newbiews, please try reading some. Read the back posts. Read > the links. Get some idea what the problems really are, not only your > one or two symptoms that you are trying to treat. > > It is not only a solution to a specific problem it is a completely > different way to see illness and health. > > Specific nutrients will effect different symptoms, and nutrients > will work like drugs, although drugs will never work like nutrients. > > Drugs are usually a very poor unnatural chemical, unknown in nature, > designed to do something a naturally occuring substance like a > nutrient or herb does naturally. Drugs are almost always toxic, if > you don't really understand that word then insert the word poison. > > If you take any poison in suffiecient quatities, or over suffiecient > time, you will suffer from the poisonous effects and damage to your > body and it's organs. > > (Only in western cultures have you been brainwashed to believe that > poison equates with health. You have been sold a bill of goods.) > > So instead of rebalancing your ecosystem you are putting more toxins > into it and polluting it further. Then the medical industry > prescribes layer on top of layer of drugs to treat more and more > symtoms from the more and more poisoning. > > Then you have protracted illnesses and early death. > > That is what this group is about. No or very minimal drugs and > cleaning up your polluted body and giving it the nutrients to heal > and herbs to help correct and support that healing. > > If you want to discuss medications (poisons) you are most likely on > the wrong list, or you have not educated yourself to the point where > you understand the basic concept yet. > > Anyway read, read, read,... read books,... read back posts,... read > the research through the links,... read the posts when others post > natural healing messages,... or read about the pollutants that cause > illness,... but open your mind, and take in information to counteract > all of that sales propaganda, from industrialized medicine, you have > taken in all of your life. > > In most cases, No more posts touting the attributes of > pharmacueticals will be allowed on this list. > > I have said it in many ways what this list is about, (sometimes > almost daily) but some don't seem to get the message. > > respectfully, > > Frank > > > Getting well is done one step at a time, day by day, building health and well being. > > list or archives: Gettingwell > > ........ Gettingwell- > post............. Gettingwell > digest form...... Gettingwell-digest > individual emails Gettingwell-normal > no email......... Gettingwell-nomail > moderator ....... Gettingwell-owner > ...... Gettingwell- > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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