Guest guest Posted March 2, 2003 Report Share Posted March 2, 2003 Dear Group, I posted a few articles about the profitability of illness and medical treatments, and the poor records of the estabished industry of results in the cases of cancer treatment. What makes you think that it is any better in most other diseases either? Heart disease is pretty big business, Despite all of the ads, public relations propaganda, government support, etc. Heart disease is skyrocketing, except for those who supplement with large (relative to what they want you to take) amounts of nutrients. Arthritus. diabetis, autism, ADD, AIDS, Vaccines, the list goes on and on. These diseases make money for a large segment of industry. Anyone with even one eye open cannot miss what has transpired in the last 50 years in health care. It is the unrivaled winner as a growth industry. It is now one of our major industries. But it doesn't " cure " hardly anything, but does have a lot of expensive treatments to drain the dollars into that segment. These same treatments in themselves cause much other illness. It then becomes a medical monetary circle. More treatment, more income, more illness, more treatment, more income, more illness, etc. No wonder there aren't many cures, but the industry has been booming for 50+ years now. To is very important to protect that cash cow, to all of those interests. Along comes a few people who say that vitamins are good for you. Even neccessary for life. (60 to 80 years ago). And herbs. Gee, they say that most of these gentle nontoxic substances have been used beneficially for hundreds or in some cases, thousands of years with little or no toxicity. The massive machinery of those vested interests is not going to stand by, and let something like truth stand in the way of profits. So we get... Wow, watch out for these dangerous substances like vitamins. Yea, and those herbs are real killers too... Yes, potential killers to the bottom line in the industry. Do you really think in those instances that all of those interests WANT to cure cancer, heart disease, etc., etc., etc.. Do you think that they want the health of the population to be GOOD, by taking vitamins, or using hrebs for treatment or support. They actively try and stamp those things out whenever and wherever they can. That is the biggest proof of all to determine what the game is all about, who plays it, and why. Those in the industry and those in government and all of that money involved. This list is about natural alternatives for getting well, or attaining real health. The allopathic/pharmacuetical medical establishment dominates our societies almost completely. This a very little corner where I try to keep that influence out. They have billions, we don't. we are insignifigant. But, they have the world of medicine as we know it. All the alternate has is a few people who are still talking. That is why we do not allow a discussion on pharmacuetical or allopathic methods here. This list was set up to discuss alternatives, not the relative merits of one one vs. the other. The majority of allopathic doctors or others who have a vested interest, do not want to hear anything bad about established medicine. They also don't want to hear anything possibly good about a natural alternative. That is, till one of their family or themselves gets sick and wants something for themselves personally vs. what they do for a living. Then they seem to be more open minded all of a sudden. I am all for people receiveing allopathic treatments if that is what they want. Some of them are beneficial and at this time necessary. But to go along with that, I am also for the education of everyone so they can make an informed choice when they have one. But, the main thing that I believe in is the right to have something other than the proscribed profit driven one, demanded by the establishment, which may be worse for me that the original complaint. I want to refuse to allow my health, and the health of my family, to be used just to further someone's economic interests. Part of the answer to those problems are information and self education. I get complaints constantly from members about my posts. I am not fair to doctors. I am not fair to business. I am not fair to politicians. I am on one side or the other politically, etc. If that is what you think. I could care less. What I really am for is the people who are seeking alternate health information to have the right to that information and the right to almost ANY treatment that THEY want, not what someone else wants for them. One other thing, I recieive compplaints is about the type of publications that I find information in. It source isn't mainstream enough for them. I take the information from wherever I can find it, which usually means the alternative press. May be you didn't know this was considered an alternative group?????? or an alternative subject??? Instead of harrangueing ME about that, why aren't you using your energy to bug the establishment to print it in their papers and on TV. Seems to me that you have the situation mixed up with your own personal brand of politics being more important that truth on health. just my 2 cents, Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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