Natural meds for bipolar or mood swings in children?

[Guest guest]

My daughter is 5 and was diagnosed as bipolar or intermittent

explosive disorder. She has a lot of side effects with the pills the

doctors have her on. I also spent last week in the emergency room

because of some side effects of the medication. She rages and has

sudden mood swings so she is on several psychiatric medications and I

would like to take her off of them. I think she has downs from these

medications when they wear off where she becomes more violent. Does

anyone know of anything natural that might help her? She also has

allergies.

 

Thanks,

Lisa

[Guest guest]

Dear Lisa,

 

It is a little more complex than just giving something natural

for " bi-Polar "

 

These psychotropic medications are very dangerous and cause many

problems. I suspect that most of what your daughter is experiencing

is caused by the medications themselves. The results from taking the

drugs can be much worse than the original problem. Then the person

has two problems to deal with, and the more severe one being the

medicine and it damages.

 

In most cases people experience a small problem (usually cured by

nutrition) and a doctor prescribes some psychotropic medicine. This

usually causes more sever problems in the long run and then they want

to prescribe more and different ones in the hopes to control the

subsequent problems. Over time, this usually causes a downward spiral

into more illness, more meds, more illness, more meds, etc.

 

With these meds it is dangerous to take them and almost as equally

dangerous to stop taking them, if done improperly. If your daughter

has taken them for anthing but the briefest time, please do not stop

the meds abruptly.

 

These drugs need to be tapered off of, over a fairly long period of

time to do it in the most safe manner.

 

There are lots of posts on this group about antidepressants,

tranquilizers, etc.

 

The average doctor seems to be clueless about the damage that these

medicines cause and know less about getting people off them in a safe

manner. Most will tell you " it is easy, that they are not addictive,

and gee, I never heard of that before, etc. " .

 

I suggest that you tell the group what all the medications your

daughter has taken and for how long etc.

 

I also suggest that you start reading all of the messages starting

with the present and go backwards on our group site.

 

The address is at the bottom of all messages from the group.

 

There are a number of great sites and groups on the web dealing with

these issues also. Most of the good ones can be found on our links

page. Once again click on the group home site address at the bottom

of each message, then go to " messages " .

 

May I ask if anyone else in the family also takes any

antidepressant, tranquilizer, sleeping pill, ADHD meds, etc?

 

I want to warn you that when you first read some of the things said

about these meds (and probably a few other things also) you must

think that we are crazy here. (Well sometimes we might be that also.)

But let me assure you that we are not crazy in the area of these

meds. There is quite of bit of information on the dangers involved

but it does not usually reach the public. The commercial public

relatiions campaign to sell it does though to most people in the USA,

daily.

 

You might ask, if that is so why doesn't my doctor know this etc. I

can only ask you to read as many posts as possible in our archives to

help you understand.

 

Please stay with the group, answer back to this post and then

hopefully let us direct you to other sources of information to help

you with this situation for you and your daughter.

 

welcome aboard,

 

Frank

 

 

 

 

 

Gettingwell , " shopaholicmommy "

<texanlisa@h...> wrote:

> My daughter is 5 and was diagnosed as bipolar or intermittent

> explosive disorder. She has a lot of side effects with the pills

the

> doctors have her on. I also spent last week in the emergency room

> because of some side effects of the medication. She rages and has

> sudden mood swings so she is on several psychiatric medications and

I

> would like to take her off of them. I think she has downs from

these

> medications when they wear off where she becomes more violent.

Does

> anyone know of anything natural that might help her? She also has

> allergies.

>

> Thanks,

> Lisa

[Guest guest]

Lisa--

My son has recently been diagnosed with severe allergies to sugar,

which he absolutely craves! He has been processed sugar free for 6 days and

is sleeping much better and not as hyperactive. I definitely believe food

allergy affect our children's behavior.

Lianne

 

> My daughter is 5 and was diagnosed as bipolar or intermittent

> explosive disorder. She has a lot of side effects with the pills the

> doctors have her on. I also spent last week in the emergency room

> because of some side effects of the medication. She rages and has

> sudden mood swings so she is on several psychiatric medications and I

> would like to take her off of them. I think she has downs from these

> medications when they wear off where she becomes more violent. Does

> anyone know of anything natural that might help her? She also has

> allergies.

>

> Thanks,

> Lisa

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[Guest guest]

Thanks, Frank. There's so much reading to catch up on!

 

You are right, anytime I call the psychiatrist, he wants to add on

another drug and if I complain about one drug he says stop it

abrubtly and give this new one. I don't think that sounds safe

either. She's been on risperdal in the past, on zyprexa, on clondine

was on seroquel for a week and i just weaned her off of that. She is

still on depakote and tenex. She's only 5 years old! She had

Concerta for one day and I rushed her to the hospital because of side

effects and never gave that one again. She is supposed to have her

blood tested while on depakote, but won't cooperate to go to the

hospital where the needles are and I haven't had anyone help me take

her there. I worry about what it is doing to her liver. Plus, she

has severe allergies and can't take much for that because of the

interactions with the depakote. I don't think her aggression was

this bad before but it's hard to remember. I don't know if it's

getting worse with her age or if it is the medication. You can see

why I am desperate for help! She had that bad reaction to the meds

and the dr. suggested placing her in a psychiatric ward where they'd

give her more meds. Why would you do that for a reaction to a

medication???

 

Yes, I have ADD and a few people in my family had ADD I believe. I

have fibromyalgia and was on tons of medications for awhile. I got a

second opinion and he said if six meds weren't helping me then I

should go off of them. I did, and I didn't feel better, but to my

surprise, I didn't feel worse either!

 

I will see how much back reading I can get done here. She does

demand a lot of my attention so it might take me awhile to get caught

up on reading here, LOL. It's nice to meet everyone!

 

Lisa, TX--

[Guest guest]

Dear Lisa,

 

I will get together a list of links and information to help point you

in the right direction.

 

The meds that she has taken are not only hard on the liver, but are

damaging to many organs of the body including the heart, brain, most

hormone producing organs etc.

 

Seroquil is a very very nasty drug in itself and usually causes

brain and other organ damage with more than minimal use. Do not let

these statements scare you.

 

I will do whatever I can to help you. I have known many people who

have been hurt by these type of meds and a person will recover if

they can get off them safely and use nutritional support to heal and

rebalance the system.

 

It sounds to me that the psychiatrist is a very dangerous man.

 

I will try and post a list to read later this evening.

 

With any of these drugs, the recovery period once people are weaned

off can be lenghtly so the person may not seem better right away, in

fact they may seem worse. It takes time for the brain chemicals and

other organs to rebalance.

 

People coming off of benzodiazapines (valium, xanax, etc.) usually

take from 6 months to 1 1/2 years to regain normal brain chemistry.

 

SSRI type drugs can take a year also to recover. Seroguel is worse.

All of those drugs are terrible for an adult but are much worse for

a young child.

 

Stay here and I will help,

 

Frank

 

 

Gettingwell , " shopaholicmommy "

<texanlisa@h...> wrote:

> Thanks, Frank. There's so much reading to catch up on!

>

> You are right, anytime I call the psychiatrist, he wants to add on

> another drug and if I complain about one drug he says stop it

> abrubtly and give this new one. I don't think that sounds safe

> either. She's been on risperdal in the past, on zyprexa, on

clondine

> was on seroquel for a week and i just weaned her off of that. She

is

> still on depakote and tenex. She's only 5 years old! She had

> Concerta for one day and I rushed her to the hospital because of

side

> effects and never gave that one again. She is supposed to have her

> blood tested while on depakote, but won't cooperate to go to the

> hospital where the needles are and I haven't had anyone help me

take

> her there. I worry about what it is doing to her liver. Plus, she

> has severe allergies and can't take much for that because of the

> interactions with the depakote. I don't think her aggression was

> this bad before but it's hard to remember. I don't know if it's

> getting worse with her age or if it is the medication. You can see

> why I am desperate for help! She had that bad reaction to the meds

> and the dr. suggested placing her in a psychiatric ward where

they'd

> give her more meds. Why would you do that for a reaction to a

> medication???

>

> Yes, I have ADD and a few people in my family had ADD I believe. I

> have fibromyalgia and was on tons of medications for awhile. I got

a

> second opinion and he said if six meds weren't helping me then I

> should go off of them. I did, and I didn't feel better, but to my

> surprise, I didn't feel worse either!

>

> I will see how much back reading I can get done here. She does

> demand a lot of my attention so it might take me awhile to get

caught

> up on reading here, LOL. It's nice to meet everyone!

>

> Lisa, TX--

[Guest guest]

Wow, I had no idea that these medications stayed in the system this

long. She does seem more hyper going off the medications and

sometimes more easily aggitated.

 

My brother uses natural meds but he had no advice for me. He was too

scared she would be allergic to something or have a bad reaction. He

has suggested hypnotherapy so see if it is, in fact, a mental

disorder.

 

I'm willing to try anything at this point. I just know we can't go

on living like this and then thinking about additional health

problems just haunts me.

 

I appreciate the information a lot!

 

Thanks,

Lisa

[Guest guest]

Dear Lisa,

 

Any chemical toxin that enters into the body can be stored in the

body if the body cannot detox it suffeciently fast enough.

 

The long period of time to recover could be from stored chemicals

(including prescriptions) or just from the imbalance of brain

chemistry itself.

 

It takes the body a long time to rebalance the brain chemistry. It is

an area where very very small amounts of any toxin can cause great

disturbances. That is why the body has a blood brain barrier to

prevent a lot of substances to pass through to the brain.

 

Anytime the nurotransmitters are imbalanced by drugs, it takes a very

long time to rebalance.

 

The chemists have figured out ways to pass through this blood brain

barrier, usually with disasterous results.

 

One drug willl cause an imbalance, two drugs will compound it in

multiples, 3 drugs it multiplies again etc. The body just sees them

as toxic chemicals and the person winds up on a toxic stew with

changing and adding different drugs etc.

 

From what you are saying, I would suspect that your dauhgter is

suffering from severe toxic poisoning, (ie. alergies, serious side

effects, etc).

 

Here are a few links, from our links page, to read to get you started:

 

Safe Harbor Group

Safe Harbor is a non-profit agency which was formed to help find

alternatives to traditional psychiatric methods in relieving mental

disturbances or distress.

safeharbor2/

 

SSRI research -

about SSRI type drugs like Prozac, Paxil, etc.

ssri-research

 

Dr. Peter Breggin's Website

Dr. Breggins website showing the dangers of drugs for mental illness.

They actually cause mental illness. A very good site.

http://www.breggin.com/

 

Antipsychiatry Coalition

The Antipsychiatry Coalition is a nonprofit volunteer group

consisting of people who feel we have been harmed by psychiatry - and

of our supporters.

http://www.antipsychiatry.org/

 

Alternative Mental Health

Site for the Non Drug treatment of mental illness.

http://www.alternativementalhealth.com/

 

Anti-depressants - SSRI type drugs

Dangers involved with taking SSRI type drugs.

http://www.prozacspotlight.org

 

Campaign For Truth

CTM's regular online health news magazine. Featuring the key stories

affecting the health and well-being of people everywhere.

http://campaignfortruth.com/Eclub/

 

Dr. Fred A. Baughman Jr., MD

Exposing the Fraud of ADD and ADHD

http://www.adhdfraud.org/

 

Drug Awareness

The dangers about many prescription drugs for depression, etc., and

their possible horrible consequences

http://www.drugawareness.org/home.html

 

Mind Freedom

Win human rights in the mental health field. The

description " psychiatric survivors " is used by individuals who

identify themselves as having experienced human rights violations in

the mental health system.

http://www.mindfreedom.org/

 

Pharmacuetical drugs

Page by Dr. M. Rath about the drug industry

http://www.drrath.com/mr-publishing-internet/politics/pc/uk/index.htm

 

Quit Paxil, Prozac and other SSRI type antidepressants safely before

you are damaged

SSRI drugs covered. Quitting safely. Dangers involed with taking

these type medications.

http://www.quitpaxil.org

 

Benzo org

The mother of all benzo truth sites. Find out the real truth about

all benzos like valium, ativan, xanax, librium, klonipin etc. If you

are taking a tranquilizer or a sleeping pill, you probably are being

damaged and don't know it.

http://www.benzo.org.uk

 

Bad behavior and illness caused by chemical imbalance

One man crusade. Free real actual paper and ink, or online, non

commercial, book for all those who suffer from biochemical imbalances

http://www.biochemimbal-behavior.com/

 

Our links page is at: Gettingwell/links

 

Frank

 

 

 

 

Gettingwell , " shopaholicmommy "

<texanlisa@h...> wrote:

> Wow, I had no idea that these medications stayed in the system this

> long. She does seem more hyper going off the medications and

> sometimes more easily aggitated.

>

> My brother uses natural meds but he had no advice for me. He was

too

> scared she would be allergic to something or have a bad reaction.

He

> has suggested hypnotherapy so see if it is, in fact, a mental

> disorder.

>

> I'm willing to try anything at this point. I just know we can't go

> on living like this and then thinking about additional health

> problems just haunts me.

>

> I appreciate the information a lot!

>

> Thanks,

> Lisa

[Guest guest]

hi

my son developed autism at 18 months and alongside this allergies

and intolerances. at three we were told that his agression , his

violent behaviour and his rapid mood swings meant that were unlikely

to be able to cope with him at home - we should start investigating

residential care . this advice came from the specialist paediatrician

who diagnosed him . we refused any meds (how brave or stupid i'm not

sure ) and we started to take out all additives . Three years later

he is talking , sweet , NEVER violent , contented and a joy to be

with . Our journey led us through removal of gluten and casein ,

removal of additives , supplementation and yeast treatment . He is

still improving and we are optomistic .

I would start by taking the obvious additives and artificial

sweetners from her diet . Get a urine peptides test done to see if

she is processing gluten and dairy properly and try gfcf for a while .

www.autismmedical.com is a great resource and you can get the testing

done by using the Autism Research unit link . If you are in the

States you can use the Great plains laboratory and maybe talk to a

Dan Doctor . I know that your child does not havre autism but this

approach seems to be helping similar or linked behavioural conditions

such as ADD and even dislexia . It will only take a couple of months

to see if it is likely to help so you may think it is worth a try !

best regards

Deborah

ps also check out Rosemary Warings work on sulphation transfer etc .

Charlie can excrete any of the toxins etc that most people can just

flush out of their systems . MSM jelps with this

Mail me if I can help

 

 

 

 

 

 

Gettingwell , " Lang " <Navy4whl@t...> wrote:

> Lisa--

> My son has recently been diagnosed with severe allergies to

sugar,

> which he absolutely craves! He has been processed sugar free for 6

days and

> is sleeping much better and not as hyperactive. I definitely

believe food

> allergy affect our children's behavior.

> Lianne

>

> > My daughter is 5 and was diagnosed as bipolar or intermittent

> > explosive disorder. She has a lot of side effects with the pills

the

> > doctors have her on. I also spent last week in the emergency room

> > because of some side effects of the medication. She rages and has

> > sudden mood swings so she is on several psychiatric medications

and I

> > would like to take her off of them. I think she has downs from

these

> > medications when they wear off where she becomes more violent.

Does

> > anyone know of anything natural that might help her? She also has

> > allergies.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Lisa

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Getting well is done one step at a time, day by day, building

health and

> well being.

> >

> > list or archives: Gettingwell

> >

> > ........ Gettingwell-

> > post............. Gettingwell

> > digest form...... Gettingwell-digest

> > individual emails Gettingwell-normal

> > no email......... Gettingwell-nomail

> > moderator ....... Gettingwell-owner

> > ...... Gettingwell-

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks, I will be sure and check that out. I am sure diet plays a

role in some of this. Thing is, the pyschiatric meds make her crave

carbs so bad that she will become violent just to get what she is

craving right then and there. And she eats all day long on them!!!

 

Lisa, TX

[Guest guest]

There are some books on homeopathy from Ullman which deals specifically with

these issues. You should be able to find them on Amazon.com using the search

facility by author and subject.

shopaholicmommy <texanlisa wrote:Wow, I had no idea that these

medications stayed in the system this

long. She does seem more hyper going off the medications and

sometimes more easily aggitated.

 

My brother uses natural meds but he had no advice for me. He was too

scared she would be allergic to something or have a bad reaction. He

has suggested hypnotherapy so see if it is, in fact, a mental

disorder.

 

I'm willing to try anything at this point. I just know we can't go

on living like this and then thinking about additional health

problems just haunts me.

 

I appreciate the information a lot!

 

Thanks,

Lisa