ADD/ADHD

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By all means hon. Read away. The data in the files is very good.

 

Best,

 

Doc

 

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Laine Regina Thornton

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Thursday, November 21, 2002 6:53 PM

[herbal remedies] Re: ADD/ADHD

Thank you all for the enthusiastic response! I really appreciate it.I'm going to look at some the articles that Doc wrote, and see from there.As for calling you Doc, I appreciate it & I may end up doing so. But let meread a little more.

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DixieThorn, I have heard of your daughter's symptomology all too often. The medicos have labeled it Asperger's Syndrome, which is just another excuse for them to dole out their poisons to children. You are not alone, and you've come to the right place for answers.

 

Janet

 

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Laine Regina Thornton

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Thursday, November 21, 2002 5:53 PM

[herbal remedies] Re: ADD/ADHD

Thank you all for the enthusiastic response! I really appreciate it.I'm going to look at some the articles that Doc wrote, and see from there.As for calling you Doc, I appreciate it & I may end up doing so. But let meread a little more.There is soooo much more involved in her problems, so many circumstancesbesides the ADD/ADHD. I'm talking, emotional outbursts, paranoia, (don't getme wrong she is a VERY thoughtful, caring & loving child, has friends, andgets along with most - her anger & outbursts are generally towards authorityfigures - especially me), she's constantly, whining, crying, complaining,everything is unfair, her behaviour is almost that of a teenager yet verybabyish (I don't even know how to explain it).There is also so much past history involved; (living in a S.A. country, for4 years from 1 1/2 to 5 yrs of age, w/in-laws that hated our guts, mental & physical abuse by her father, towards me mostly but some towards her,constant conflict with my in-laws, and on & on & on). We are a stable familynow, I've created that stability, as well as divorced her father, but..She's 2 years behind her grade level & they are not holding her back, soonshe will be in another school in the same district which has a specialeducation program, directed at kids as far behind as she is. Her sister, my5 year old, at 5 is more advanced than she ever was at that age.Anyway, I will leave off now, I believe I've ranted on for long enough! Ijust thought I'd give some background. Forgive the rambling.Thank You again,Cheers N HealthDixieThornFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

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Laine Regina Thornton [dixiethorn] Wednesday, November 20, 2002 6:52 PMherbal remedies Subject: [herbal remedies] Re: ADD/ADHDHi,I'm a new member, and I love this group it's the most informative around.I'm looking for info on ADD/ADHD. It's a family thing, and my daughter hasit, borderline, but I'm hoping to find a natural way to do this. After 4years I've finally had to give in & let some form of med's be d butif there is a better way alternatively, I'd be very interested.Thank You,Cheers N HealthDixieThornFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

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Lauren...You need to talk to the Doc when he returns which should be about a week.There are underlying causes for the symptoms which are called ADD/ADHD Disorder. There really is no such disorder and your childs symptoms can be handled.

Mary Ostrowski

 

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Lauren Bastow

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Tuesday, November 26, 2002 11:00 AM

RE: [herbal remedies] Re: ADD/ADHD

 

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Laine Regina Thornton [dixiethorn] Wednesday, November 20, 2002 6:52 PMherbal remedies Subject: [herbal remedies] Re: ADD/ADHDHi,I'm a new member, and I love this group it's the most informative around.I'm looking for info on ADD/ADHD. It's a family thing, and my daughter hasit, borderline, but I'm hoping to find a natural way to do this. After 4years I've finally had to give in & let some form of med's be d butif there is a better way alternatively, I'd be very interested.Thank You,Cheers N HealthDixieThornFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

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I know that. The website that I am referring to is a preventative measure designed to help kids with brain injuries. When I have a little more time I will update the group on this topic but right now my little one is about to start typing.

 

 

Ostrowski [Odesign1] Tuesday, November 26, 2002 1:23 PMherbal remedies Subject: Re: [herbal remedies] Re: ADD/ADHD

Lauren...You need to talk to the Doc when he returns which should be about a week.There are underlying causes for the symptoms which are called ADD/ADHD Disorder. There really is no such disorder and your childs symptoms can be handled.

Mary Ostrowski

 

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Lauren Bastow

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Tuesday, November 26, 2002 11:00 AM

RE: [herbal remedies] Re: ADD/ADHD

 

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Laine Regina Thornton [dixiethorn] Wednesday, November 20, 2002 6:52 PMherbal remedies Subject: [herbal remedies] Re: ADD/ADHDHi,I'm a new member, and I love this group it's the most informative around.I'm looking for info on ADD/ADHD. It's a family thing, and my daughter hasit, borderline, but I'm hoping to find a natural way to do this. After 4years I've finally had to give in & let some form of med's be d butif there is a better way alternatively, I'd be very interested.Thank You,Cheers N HealthDixieThornFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

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Dixie,

here is Doc's article for you to read.The Myth & The Mystery

ADD & ADHD

by

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.

Definition: ADD - Attention Deficit Disorder, a mental disorder that is a combination of behaviors in children such as; can’t follow directions; can’t sit still; speaking in class out of turn; cannot or lacks focus; gets angry or confused, etc. etc.

Definition: ADHD (Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder) a mental disorder that is a combination of behaviors similar to the ones above with “hyperactivity” being present.

Do you know that both ADD and ADHD were not “discovered” but were “voted” into existence by a committee of the American Psychiatric Association? Furthermore, it is acknowledged that the “Causes” are unknown and yet both of these “conditions” were voted in as being chemical imbalances in the brain without one shred of scientific evidence. Gene R. Haislip, Deputy Assistant Administrator, Office of Diversion Control, Drug Enforcement Administration was quoted as saying, “This agency has not made a determination of whether ADHD is a disease or a syndrome… We are also unaware that ADHD has been validated as a biologic/organic syndrome or disease”. With ADD or ADHD, there are NO brain scans, NO blood tests, NO saliva or urine samples taken, and the entire diagnosis is based on the OPINION of health professionals who much of the time render this judgment on the speculated opinion of school teachers mislead by Psychiatry, and who are not trained in the field of physical health or its diagnosis.

Today over 6 MILLION American children are being labeled as ADD or ADHD, and are being forced or intimidated into taking brain damaging, psychiatric drugs such as Ritalin®, Concerta®, Adderall®, etc, for these supposed diseases. This is beyond criminal. It is completely evil and is the greatest hoax of the 20th century while being its most destructive. For this massive drugging of our youth has the potential of totally destroying our future American society, and I compare this outrageous act to the holocaust in Germany in the 1930’s and 40’s.

Often, I’m told by others, that the symptoms mentioned in these so called “diseases” are so very real and that this is why they’ve believed the Psychs and agreed with the diagnosis in the first place. I then get asked, “Well – if these diseases are not real and they are hoaxes, what is “causing” these symptoms?” Well – I’m going to answer that one for you too, and I don’t really think you’re going to be that surprised by the explanation once you find out what it is.

So, what is this all-encompassing Cause??? Malnutrition! That’s it! That’s all of it!

What do I mean by malnutrition? Well – “mal” means “bad”, so we’re talking about “bad” nutrition here and during the last 30 years the quality of food throughout the World especially in the US has gone dramatically down. If you believe your taste buds here, you probably won’t believe me, but what I’m about to reveal to you are cold hard facts.

There are 3 major problem areas in our food chain that directly contribute to the “cause” of the symptoms found in these two bogus, psychiatric diseases.

#1. All meats and meat products: For the last 30+ years, the amount of steroids, hormones, and antibiotics used in these products has grown yearly at an alarming rate. There is no meat source that has not been affected by these practices. It is not just the beef and pork industries that are the culprits here, the commercial dairy, chicken and farm raised fish industries are just as bad, if not worse and the more insidious due to their lower profile. All commercial milk, cheeses, and eggs are loaded full of these hormones, steroids,

and antibiotics.

This is the major cause behind our children going through puberty at 7, 8, and 9 years of age instead of the usual 12 through 15. It’s no wonder our children are demonstrating these symptoms when puberty is kicking in so early. These symptoms are very real, but the ADD & ADHD labels are an evil con job.

The Solution here is to eat ONLY, CERTIFIED ORGANIC MEAT PRODUCTS AND BYPRODUCTS.

#2. Sugar: All processed white and brown sugars are deadly. They are a “slow” poison. There is no nutritional value to sugar whatsoever.

Sugar creates: a.) a false energy boost that burns the individual out faster. b.) stress to the Pancreas that will eventually bring about Diabetes. c.) anxiety. d.) HYPERACTIVITY! e.) grief. f.) pimples. g.) boils. h.) and lastly, a lowered or non-existent immune system that can allow all kinds of diseases to strike, such as colds, pneumonias, and flus to name a few.

The solution for sugar if one has to satisfy a sweet tooth is to eat only ORGANIC RAW HONEY, ORGANIC MAPLE SYRUP, AND ORGANIC STEVIA PRODUCTS.

An awesome book to read on the subject that goes into even greater detail is: Sugar Blues by William F. Dufty. This book is a “must” read.

#3. And lastly in the food chain problem area is the little known subject of Enzyme Inhibitors. I’ve written a comprehensive article on this topic, and I strongly recommend you read it for a full understanding of this very important issue.

In a nutshell, Enzyme Inhibitors are found in all grains, seeds, nuts, and most beans, and these biochemical agents can slow down and even stop many of your body’s natural functions.

Again the solution is simple. Eat only those grains, seeds, nuts and beans that have been soaked in water for at least 12 hours. Soaking gets rid of Enzyme Inhibitors. Buy only breads that have been made from sprouted grains.

Don’t believe that the Psychs and the Medical Doctors are simply ignorant about these solutions. They are very well aware of them. Criminally so! I hope this information helps you and your family. It was written to save the lives of your children, and to ensure their future survival. Love,

Ian “Doc” Shillington N.D.

Copyright © 2002 by Ian Shillington N.D. All rights reserved. No reproduction of any kind is permissable without prior written approval of the copyright owner.

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Hi,

 

This is my first post here, looks like a good group. I will post a proper intro

later. I just wanted to add a bit to what has already been said about this

topic. It might be a good idea to avoid artificial colourings and flavourings

in shop bought food and drink, and make your own food from fresh organic

ingredients. A lot of people react to these chemicals without knowing it. A

google search on this would bring up a lot of interesting info for you. I

personally react to something in commercial yogurt, but can eat the homemade

kind, and I really stay away from packedged foods.

 

Take care,

 

Suni

 

 

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Hi,

 

I'm not sure if I completely agree with the clothing sensitivity being linked

with ADD/ADHD. My son shows signs of a behavior "disorder",

however, I think it is linked more with food additives, food

sensitivities, etc. I took my son off of dairy and noticed an

improvement. He drinks rice milk now.

I'm working towards reducing as much sugar

as possible and going natural whereever possible.

 

Your baby might have another type of sensitivity, since you notice

it is regarding blankets and fabrics.

 

Take Care,

Gina

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I don't come out very often, but children being on medication for

ADD/ADHD just clutches at my heart. We really don't know what the

long-term effects are and it's very scary! There are a couple of

little booklets - 'Is Ritalin Neccessary?' and ADD - 'The Natural

Approach' available in just about any health store that will give you

some great insight. I would begin with the omegas (beginning perhaps

with Flax Seed Oil)

 

Also, I believe essential oils are wonderful for this. I also have a

belief that kids that 'have' this are highly intelligent kids, with

so much curiosity they get bored easily and need much personal

attention and brain stimulation in the form of learning and

activities.

 

If you'd like to talk to me about the essential oils, just email me

directly.

 

Blessings to you,

 

Beverly / NaturalBev

Reflexologist & Raindrop Facilitator

EFT-CC

Natural Health Consultant

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Sorry I didn't get back to you earlier, I just got out of the extreme nausea of the 1st trimester of pregnancy. I didn't really eat on a regular basis because of the nausea but I'm feeling better now.

ADD and ADHD are caused by a brain injury and it works as such. A child that had tactile disorders such as clothing hurting them and chemical sensitivity. What happens is for normal people when we run our skin along say a blanket it feels like a blanket. To a brain injured child this feels like a cheese grater on their skin. This clearly hurts them so they avoid sensational contact items touching their skin. However the need for input is great and the absence of this stimulation causes certain neural pathways to either not develop or half way develop. These pathways are used later for learning but if they are never developed there are difficulties learning. In younger kids, the need for sensation is still there so this is how they satisfy them. You will see in "ADD" kids them slapping their hands on their desks, getting up and running around and doing other things that are "disruptive" in a prison school environment. They are trying to get the stimulation they need and sitting there listening to a person talk to them doesn't qualify as stimulation. This leads to a spiral of effects. They are usually medicated and that just sedates them. So they go on with life in this psychotropic trance and after they get out of school they are so dependant on the drug that they can't function without it. Now they are too old to correct the problem with any sort of real effects. Think of it this way. If you have a wire and you run a little electoral current through it and the wire is not intact, you will have little luck getting the current through the wire. However if you put a large current through the wire, you will at least get some of the electricity through to the other end. This is the same thing that happens when neural pathways are not intact. This is also why the kids with these problems smack their hands and heads around. They are searching for this stimulation.

There is help available. There are 2 institutes that I know of that have a non-medical approach to this problem, they believe that through physical therapy we can rebuild those neural pathways for complete recovery. They are located on the web at www.ihap.org and www.handle.org and both get amazing results. They are a little different from each other but people can look and decide for themselves. They both believe that the brain and it's neuropath ways are like a muscle. If you want strong muscles, you work them out, right? Well if you want a strong and healthy brain you work it out. What these people do is teach parents how to better and more efficiently work out the brain. My little boy is brain injured and his injuries are as follows:

He has inner ear malfunction which makes it hard for him to use the equilibrium in there. When he lays down to go to sleep at night it feels like he is drunk and dizzy. He has overridden the nerves that tell him that he is dizzy but that means that they are not there and that will cause problems later in life. It even causes some now. He is 16 months old and can not walk or even stand up on his own. As it is, we had to teach him through patterning and physical therapy how to roll over, sit up, scoot on his belly (homolatterly) and crawl. We are in the process of fixing this and they expect that it will take at least a year.

He also has tactile issues. We are using gentle stimulation to get him over that. He was a extremely colic baby for about 5 months. So when he was very little he would say (in baby language) "mama, I hurt, please hold me" and when I tried to hold him, his clothing and mine hurt him as well so he was in pain all the time. As a result he went crazy and was afraid to move. This was also in part to the whole can't tell where his body is in space issue (dizziness). He has overridden those pain sensors but again we are working to rebuild them.

We are already seeing progress and we have only been on the handle program for about a month. We can wash his face now and he doesn't scream in pain, he can walk with us holding only 1 hand.

Well I hope this helps, and sorry about the length

 

 

Ostrowski [Odesign1] Tuesday, November 26, 2002 1:23 PMherbal remedies Subject: Re: [herbal remedies] Re: ADD/ADHD

Lauren...You need to talk to the Doc when he returns which should be about a week.There are underlying causes for the symptoms which are called ADD/ADHD Disorder. There really is no such disorder and your childs symptoms can be handled.

Mary Ostrowski

 

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Lauren Bastow

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Tuesday, November 26, 2002 11:00 AM

RE: [herbal remedies] Re: ADD/ADHD

 

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Laine Regina Thornton [dixiethorn] Wednesday, November 20, 2002 6:52 PMherbal remedies Subject: [herbal remedies] Re: ADD/ADHDHi,I'm a new member, and I love this group it's the most informative around.I'm looking for info on ADD/ADHD. It's a family thing, and my daughter hasit, borderline, but I'm hoping to find a natural way to do this. After 4years I've finally had to give in & let some form of med's be d butif there is a better way alternatively, I'd be very interested.Thank You,Cheers N HealthDixieThornFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

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I don't agree with you that ADD and ADHD is caused by brain injury. There's been no indication of that whatsoever, as far as I know.

 

As change of diet has been the most successful in handling this condition, I think that's a fairly good indication that diet has been the problem: the additives in food, artificial colours and flavourings, hormones, antibiotics, etc. added to foods.

 

A full organic diet, using sprouting where needed, should handle all symptoms. See articles on file for full details on these.

 

Lisa

 

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Lauren Bastow

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Wednesday, November 27, 2002 5:33 PM

RE: [herbal remedies] Re: ADD/ADHD

 

 

Sorry I didn't get back to you earlier, I just got out of the extreme nausea of the 1st trimester of pregnancy. I didn't really eat on a regular basis because of the nausea but I'm feeling better now.

ADD and ADHD are caused by a brain injury and it works as such. A child that had tactile disorders such as clothing hurting them and chemical sensitivity. What happens is for normal people when we run our skin along say a blanket it feels like a blanket. To a brain injured child this feels like a cheese grater on their skin. This clearly hurts them so they avoid sensational contact items touching their skin. However the need for input is great and the absence of this stimulation causes certain neural pathways to either not develop or half way develop. These pathways are used later for learning but if they are never developed there are difficulties learning. In younger kids, the need for sensation is still there so this is how they satisfy them. You will see in "ADD" kids them slapping their hands on their desks, getting up and running around and doing other things that are "disruptive" in a prison school environment. They are trying to get the stimulation they need and sitting there listening to a person talk to them doesn't qualify as stimulation. This leads to a spiral of effects. They are usually medicated and that just sedates them. So they go on with life in this psychotropic trance and after they get out of school they are so dependant on the drug that they can't function without it. Now they are too old to correct the problem with any sort of real effects. Think of it this way. If you have a wire and you run a little electoral current through it and the wire is not intact, you will have little luck getting the current through the wire. However if you put a large current through the wire, you will at least get some of the electricity through to the other end. This is the same thing that happens when neural pathways are not intact. This is also why the kids with these problems smack their hands and heads around. They are searching for this stimulation.

There is help available. There are 2 institutes that I know of that have a non-medical approach to this problem, they believe that through physical therapy we can rebuild those neural pathways for complete recovery. They are located on the web at www.ihap.org and www.handle.org and both get amazing results. They are a little different from each other but people can look and decide for themselves. They both believe that the brain and it's neuropath ways are like a muscle. If you want strong muscles, you work them out, right? Well if you want a strong and healthy brain you work it out. What these people do is teach parents how to better and more efficiently work out the brain. My little boy is brain injured and his injuries are as follows:

He has inner ear malfunction which makes it hard for him to use the equilibrium in there. When he lays down to go to sleep at night it feels like he is drunk and dizzy. He has overridden the nerves that tell him that he is dizzy but that means that they are not there and that will cause problems later in life. It even causes some now. He is 16 months old and can not walk or even stand up on his own. As it is, we had to teach him through patterning and physical therapy how to roll over, sit up, scoot on his belly (homolatterly) and crawl. We are in the process of fixing this and they expect that it will take at least a year.

He also has tactile issues. We are using gentle stimulation to get him over that. He was a extremely colic baby for about 5 months. So when he was very little he would say (in baby language) "mama, I hurt, please hold me" and when I tried to hold him, his clothing and mine hurt him as well so he was in pain all the time. As a result he went crazy and was afraid to move. This was also in part to the whole can't tell where his body is in space issue (dizziness). He has overridden those pain sensors but again we are working to rebuild them.

We are already seeing progress and we have only been on the handle program for about a month. We can wash his face now and he doesn't scream in pain, he can walk with us holding only 1 hand.

Well I hope this helps, and sorry about the length

 

 

Ostrowski [Odesign1] Tuesday, November 26, 2002 1:23 PMherbal remedies Subject: Re: [herbal remedies] Re: ADD/ADHD

Lauren...You need to talk to the Doc when he returns which should be about a week.There are underlying causes for the symptoms which are called ADD/ADHD Disorder. There really is no such disorder and your childs symptoms can be handled.

Mary Ostrowski

 

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Lauren Bastow

herbal remedies

Tuesday, November 26, 2002 11:00 AM

RE: [herbal remedies] Re: ADD/ADHD

 

www.handle.org

 

 

Laine Regina Thornton [dixiethorn] Wednesday, November 20, 2002 6:52 PMherbal remedies Subject: [herbal remedies] Re: ADD/ADHDHi,I'm a new member, and I love this group it's the most informative around.I'm looking for info on ADD/ADHD. It's a family thing, and my daughter hasit, borderline, but I'm hoping to find a natural way to do this. After 4years I've finally had to give in & let some form of med's be d butif there is a better way alternatively, I'd be very interested.Thank You,Cheers N HealthDixieThornFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

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The place to start would be reading my article called "The Myth & The Mystery" that is in the files.

 

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

 

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Ostrowski

herbal remedies

Tuesday, November 26, 2002 2:23 PM

Re: [herbal remedies] Re: ADD/ADHD

 

Lauren...You need to talk to the Doc when he returns which should be about a week.There are underlying causes for the symptoms which are called ADD/ADHD Disorder. There really is no such disorder and your childs symptoms can be handled.

Mary Ostrowski

 

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Lauren Bastow

herbal remedies

Tuesday, November 26, 2002 11:00 AM

RE: [herbal remedies] Re: ADD/ADHD

 

www.handle.org

 

 

Laine Regina Thornton [dixiethorn] Wednesday, November 20, 2002 6:52 PMherbal remedies Subject: [herbal remedies] Re: ADD/ADHDHi,I'm a new member, and I love this group it's the most informative around.I'm looking for info on ADD/ADHD. It's a family thing, and my daughter hasit, borderline, but I'm hoping to find a natural way to do this. After 4years I've finally had to give in & let some form of med's be d butif there is a better way alternatively, I'd be very interested.Thank You,Cheers N HealthDixieThornFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

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As far as ADD and malnutrition, have you read Doc's article in the files? It is not the lack of food but the kind of food and nutrition you are getting in your system.

Suzi

 

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OK I am confused.. I am 26 and was just diagnosed with ADD afew months ago. From everything I have been reading they are unsure what causes it, but were leaning towards a hereditary braid defect.

If they are now saying that it is not a brain defect.. are they saying what it is?

Because ADD is real and is not just a childrens disease. Many adults have it as well.

 

Currently I am on Adderall (I refused to take Ritalin) and its helping quite abit. This whole conversation line has caught my curiousity, being as I am living with this... whatever it is

 

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Preventive Psychiatry E-Newsletter # 31

 

ADHD IS NOT A BRAIN DISORDER

 

DUTCH COMMISSION FINDS PSYCHIATRIC CLAIM IS FALSE

 

The Netherlands Advertisement Code Commission (Reclame Code Commissie) has

ruled that the country's Brain Foundation cannot claim that the

controversial psychiatric condition Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder

(ADHD) is a neurobiological disease or brain dysfunction. The Commission

ordered the Foundation to cease such false claims in their advertising.

 

The Advertisement Code Commission was responding to a complaint brought by

the Dutch chapter of the Citizens Commission on Human Rights (CCHR), an

international psychiatric watchdog organization.

 

In its decision handed down on August 6th, the Advertisement Code

Commission found that the Brain Foundation had falsely advertised and

solicited funding by publishing ads in newspapers, magazines, fliers and on

TV that stated ADHD is an "inherent brain dysfunction."

 

The Advertisement Code Commission decision stated, "The information that

the defendant presented gives no grounds for the definitive statement that

ADHD is an inherent brain dysfunction. Under the circumstances, the

defendant has not been careful enough and the advertisement is misleading."

 

The decision has prompted calls for similar orders to be made in the U.S.

in the wake of a 1,100% increase in ADHD being diagnosed in American

children between 1987 and 2001.

 

CCHR's international headquarters in Los Angeles says that similar false

claims have been made about ADHD in the U.S. despite a 1999 Surgeon General

report stating otherwise. The report on mental health, specifically stated

that, "No single gene has been found to be responsible for any specific

mental disorder." Also, the report states "There is no definite lesion,

laboratory test or abnormality in brain tissue that can identify the

[mental] illness."

 

Ms. Jan Eastgate, President of CCHR International, stated, "Fraudulent

claims that ADHD is neurobiological must stop. We have already filed a

similar complaint in the United States. Psychiatrists cannot be allowed to

mislead parents, and children need to be protected from false labels and

harmful psychiatric drugs. Child Psychiatrists are put on notice that we

will continue to file complaints and/or bring legal action as necessary

against false and misleading claims."

 

The Citizens Commission on Human Rights International can be contacted at

(800) 869-2247. More information on the plight of millions of children

subjected to mind-altering psychiatric drugs can be found at CCHR’s website

http://www.fightforkids.com

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.

505-772-5889

Dr.IanShillington

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

[Guest guest]

I would suggest that you visit http://www.handel.org http://www.ihap.com http://www.fhc.com

It is not an inherited thing. It has much to do with nutrition & brain injuries.

 

Ravenwolf [Damiana]Friday, December 13, 2002 8:04 AMherbal remedies Subject: [herbal remedies] ADD/ADHD

 

 

 

 

OK I am confused.. I am 26 and was just diagnosed with ADD afew months ago. From everything I have been reading they are unsure what causes it, but were leaning towards a hereditary braid defect.

If they are now saying that it is not a brain defect.. are they saying what it is?

Because ADD is real and is not just a childrens disease. Many adults have it as well.

 

Currently I am on Adderall (I refused to take Ritalin) and its helping quite abit. This whole conversation line has caught my curiousity, being as I am living with this... whatever it is

 

Hugs and Howls

 

 

 

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______________________________

 

Preventive Psychiatry E-Newsletter # 31

 

ADHD IS NOT A BRAIN DISORDER

 

DUTCH COMMISSION FINDS PSYCHIATRIC CLAIM IS FALSE

 

The Netherlands Advertisement Code Commission (Reclame Code Commissie) has

ruled that the country's Brain Foundation cannot claim that the

controversial psychiatric condition Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder

(ADHD) is a neurobiological disease or brain dysfunction. The Commission

ordered the Foundation to cease such false claims in their advertising.

 

The Advertisement Code Commission was responding to a complaint brought by

the Dutch chapter of the Citizens Commission on Human Rights (CCHR), an

international psychiatric watchdog organization.

 

In its decision handed down on August 6th, the Advertisement Code

Commission found that the Brain Foundation had falsely advertised and

solicited funding by publishing ads in newspapers, magazines, fliers and on

TV that stated ADHD is an "inherent brain dysfunction."

 

The Advertisement Code Commission decision stated, "The information that

the defendant presented gives no grounds for the definitive statement that

ADHD is an inherent brain dysfunction. Under the circumstances, the

defendant has not been careful enough and the advertisement is misleading."

 

The decision has prompted calls for similar orders to be made in the U.S.

in the wake of a 1,100% increase in ADHD being diagnosed in American

children between 1987 and 2001.

 

CCHR's international headquarters in Los Angeles says that similar false

claims have been made about ADHD in the U.S. despite a 1999 Surgeon General

report stating otherwise. The report on mental health, specifically stated

that, "No single gene has been found to be responsible for any specific

mental disorder." Also, the report states "There is no definite lesion,

laboratory test or abnormality in brain tissue that can identify the

[mental] illness."

 

Ms. Jan Eastgate, President of CCHR International, stated, "Fraudulent

claims that ADHD is neurobiological must stop. We have already filed a

similar complaint in the United States. Psychiatrists cannot be allowed to

mislead parents, and children need to be protected from false labels and

harmful psychiatric drugs. Child Psychiatrists are put on notice that we

will continue to file complaints and/or bring legal action as necessary

against false and misleading claims."

 

The Citizens Commission on Human Rights International can be contacted at

(800) 869-2247. More information on the plight of millions of children

subjected to mind-altering psychiatric drugs can be found at CCHR’s website

http://www.fightforkids.com

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.

505-772-5889

Dr.IanShillington

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

[Guest guest]

Thank you

I will include this in my research materials.

Hugs and Howls

Ravenwolf Burke

 

 

I would suggest that you visit http://www.handel.org http://www.ihap.comhttp://www.fhc.comIt is not an inherited thing. It has much to do with nutrition & braininjuries.

[Guest guest]

Hi JC,

 

That's why I suggested calling Doc, as I'm sure he can help out. But it's probably better for the parents to do this, as they have the necessary hands-on information that Doc would need to know to design the optimum program.

 

love

Lisa

 

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jmtbc2004

herbal remedies

Sunday, August 08, 2004 6:49 AM

Herbal Remedies - ADD/ADHD

Thank Lisa, I have read that article and it has a lot of good information, but I still wondering if there is more that can be done in the mean time.

[Guest guest]

There is some new thinking that ADD and ADHD are related to GI insult and can

be demonstrated on a test.

 

please see: www.LookForHealth.com

 

If you have questions, email Dr. Fallon. I did this for my child and found it

to be very informational and helpful.

 

Rich

 

Dr. Fallon email joanfallon

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

A tremendous website for this is www.RxFreeKids.org

<http://www.rxfreekids.org/> . The creator of this website is ADHD (I have

heard him speak and there is no douubt). He views kids w/ ADD/ADHD as very

gifted learners who simply learn at a much higher rate than the rest of us.

You will find the food allergy and nutritional info as well there but his

approach is excellent and can change the life of a " Quick Smart Kid " .

 

 

 

Blessings!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Stan Crane

303-360-0100

stancrane

www.GotGlyco.com

 

 

 

<http://>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

---Yes, ADD/ADHD definitely exists...and some folks DO MUCH BETTER

with medication..though there are other areas which MUST be

pursued..such as change of diet away from white sugar and food

additives, investigation of psych. problems, and correction of spinal

subluxations..which often mean nervousness, compromise of mental

functioning and other signs/symptoms. The doctor must examine

the " big picture, " not just medicate. And, though I have always

favored the " natural approach, " so far there is nothing that appears

to be as successful in the way of herbs or homeopatics, e.g., than

the methylphenidate-like medications. Sometimes that is just the way

if is...like how insulin is what a diabetic needs..there is no

substitute, sorry to say. Please be aware, BTW, of some fanatics..

many of them scientologists who--in a blanket way--denounce ALL

psych. drugs and psych. practitioners, which is hardly realistic.

I hope this was helpful.

 

Oh, supplements can help, frequently..at least in some ways..

Such as the additon of dietary choline, such as in lecithin and--also-

-B-complex. Some folks find they become much " smarter " with these.

 

Dr. T.C.H.

Los Angeles, Calif.

 

 

 

 

 

 

In , " christine DeMey "

<cdemey wrote:

>

> I was one that never really " thought " much about it. In fact I did

not

> believe it either...until my kids started school and I remembered

how

> embarrassing it was to go to class and no matter how much I tried

and

> desired to pay attention my mind was anywhere but school, after 43

years of

> struggling I finally decided to get myself and my family help...my

kids have

> some of these things too...there are for real clinical things like

> depression, bi polar, A.D.D....A.D.H.D, THEYdo exist....and as much

as

> natural herbs and so on may be the route for others I am not even

close to

> against the " narcotic medication " ...I did not lose weight on

stratera and

> the fact is as I have gone on medication and gotten help they have

slowly

> over time found all the symptoms for everything I inhereted...from

A.D.D. To

> depression and bi polar....I now can think, my brain actually

thinks better

> and faster, doing paperwork at work no longer takes me 30 minutes

into the

> next shift and I can actually have fun with my fellow employees and

after 20

> years of being a bag to the people I had to work with I feel more

sorry for

> them than I do for myself for not getting help sooner....I had

friends tell

> me how and what they did to cope with working with

me....embarrassing! I

> have apologized to many co workers for making it so difficult for

them...the

> best part is I can go into work now and smile laugh and have

fun...as far as

> nutrition I lost 70 pounds by taking the calories and fat out of my

diet and

> I take black root kohosh for my female changes and omega 3 for my

mental

> balance and overall health...oh yeah and ginko because of the memory

> problems my grandmother had....so I do like the natural forms of

what helps

> but for my mental well being I have to stick with those " terrible "

> medications....See not everyone is so structured they can go a

million

> routes to find what works for them...and when you do medication

they do find

> out little by little what your problem may be....In the real world

very few

> are so structured that they have the time and the ability to check

> everything they eat...Just my 2 cents worth...everyone handles

things

> differently...all in all as long as you get the help you need and

do " not "

> ignore or deny (which we all know is part of the problem) you are

being

> responsible. Yes different people are affected in different

ways...I am a

> bigger more solidly built woman so it does not tear me down as

easily...I am

> thankful that I went the route I did.

> ----

>

> Jessika Stone

> 4/10/2007 9:56:04 PM

>

> Re: ADD/ADHD in 4 year olds?

>

> The only difference I noticed on my medication was depression and

lack of

> appetite. It was the thinnest I ever was, I did kind of like that

result. My

> mother said that I was paying attention much better, and continued

to say it

> months after I had stopped taking my medicine without telling her.

The only

> thing that made my " ADD " better was joining the Army and learning

about

> discipline.

>

> christine DeMey <cdemey wrote:

> Well, with all due respect I " totally " disagree with you, I had

lived many

> years with A.D.D. And you know what? I never considered medication

until I

> was in my 40's ... I totally regret not having the " passion " to

seek a

> better life than the one I was leading then...If you have not got

the

> ailment you have... " NO CLUE " ...no one who has it...truly has it and

gets

> treated for it is " not' going to be able to tell the difference...

My father

> also has it and has the same symptoms I do...he does well w/o

medication I

> don't.... I am on strattera and I will tell you this...my mind has

never

> been so clear consice and have the ability to much better

learn ,remember

> and think through...so I for one will argue with a passion about it

existing

> and how it can affect you....as far as lazy, everyone has their

moments, but

> they are further and fewer between....you are entitled to your

opinion but

> like tom cruise , in my personal opinion you are way off base.

> Respectfully ,

> Chris

>

> ----

>

> Jessika Stone

> 04/08/07 22:06:54

>

> Re: ADD/ADHD in 4 year olds?

>

> Call me crazy, but I don't believe ADD or ADHD exists.

> I was diagnosed with ADD when I was twelve, and do

> you know what the problem actually was? I was lazy.

> I was lazy and I had no discipline. I have never

> known another person who has been diagnosed with

> either of those diseases that didn't have some similar

> sort of self image based problem.

> As far as I know about the symptoms of ADHD (and this

> is a personal passion of mine, having been medicated

> with mind altering drugs for a disease that doesn't

> even exist in the past myself), every 4 year old on

> the planet has ADHD.

> What ever you do, do not treat him like he has some

> sort of strange disease. I hardly know anyone who has

> not been diagnosed with that, or some other " mental

> disorder " that strangely resembles a natural human

> emotion or something even more basic like dehydration.

> Also, DO NOT put him on any of those mind altering

> drugs, EVER! I suffered from such terrible depression

> for years after taking those. I even tried to kill

> myself once. If anything damages the brain, its those

> drugs.

> Do yourself a favor and check out the book Your Drug

> Might be Your Problem by Peter R. Breggin and David

> Cohen for a good starting point on these brain

> disorders they love to advertise so much now.

> Good luck

> Jessi

> --- sknoll1318 <sweetbutterfly1318

> wrote:

>

> > My son's preschool wants him to be tested for

> > ADD/ADHD. I was wondering

> > if this is rather young for a child to be tested and

> > medicated for

> > this. I took online tests about my child's behavior

> > and I was able to

> > check off all but one for ADHD. My husband and I

> > would like to use

> > natural medications instead. So far, we have

> > attempted to take dairy

> > out of his diet, this is rather hard considering we

> > live in WI, but we

> > have made the best of it. The issue is that we have

> > tried using soy

> > milk, but my son won't drink it unless it is mixed

> > half w/reg milk.

> > Now, since dairy wasn't TOTALLY taken out of his

> > diet, would the

> > reduction of the dairy still have a behavior change

> > on him, or not

> > because it wasn't totally taken out? I was planning

> > on upping his Omega-

> > 3 as I know that this can cause ADD symptoms also. I

> > did research

> > online and saw a natural remedy for the symptoms off

> > ADHD, but I don't

> > know anything about it.

> >

> > If anyone has any information that would be useful

> > in diet changes and

> > natural remedies, please let me know.

> >

> > Thank you.

> >

> >

>

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