Urgent! Rush! Important!

[Guest guest]

Dear Suzanne,

 

I've walked a little more than a mile in those "shoes" you're talking about, and have personally handled (successfully with nutrition I might add) a full blown case of mind boggling insanity in a woman who was trying to kill herself and me at the same time. If she wasn't trying to jump out of a window, she was trying to either viciously strangle me or brutally pummel me to death. Totally bonkers if you'll forgive the vernacular. This woman was watched 24 hours a day, with 12 of those hours being monitored by me personally, seven days a week for 7 weeks until she came through it.

 

I've personally had on my lines over 2000 children who were all on Ritalin, Adderall, or Concerta etc. and have had to deal with suicides on this line as well.

 

I think I know whereof I speak with this issue of Psychiatry, and the great danger in the passing of this bill.

 

I can honestly say with TOTAL certainty, that the Psychs do not have one fully workable program in any of their technology. If one includes all areas of the medical profession, the Psychiatrist is the most allopathic and heinous of the lot.

 

If you read the list policies when you signed up, you'll see that promulgation of their vile technology is not really appreciated here on Herbal Remedies. This list is totally "Naturopathic" in nature and its teachings.

 

I have no intention of coming down hard on you, as I can only assume that this is why you are here = to learn about Naturopathic ways. Suffice it to say, that I have been studying natural healing for many years, and I have seen the other side of the coin.

 

My post was not meant to generate discussion, but to give a dire warning to those in the know so that they could take action.

 

As general discussions of Psychiatry are OT (off topic) for this list per the list's policies, I'd appreciate it (if you have any further comments), that you contact me personally off list and we can debate it to your hearts content.

 

Best regards,

 

Doc

 

Dr. Ian Shillington505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

 

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Suzanne Carlstedt

herbal remedies

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 6:03 PM

Re: [herbal remedies] Urgent! Rush! Important!

Having had a husband who turned paranoidschizophrenic, my perspective on this is a littledifferent. It was nearly impossible to have himcommitted for treatment, even when he was threateningsuicide. I am fortunate that he never becameseriously violent toward me, but I can tell you thatI'm still paying a price in terms of my health forwhat I went through with him. And he's been dead for8 years.At the time all this was happening, I didn't knowabout natural healing, and I have wondered since whatcleansing and nutrition might have been able to do forhim, if he would have allowed himself to be treated inthat way. But until you've walked a mile in the shoesof living with a seriously mentally ill person, I askyou not to be so quick to condemn attempts to dealwith it.

[Guest guest]

Don...REALLY?? after only one year?? Here in Pennsylvania there's a

two year statute and that only begins AFTER you realize you were a

victim of negligence (ie: after you've contacted a lawyer

officially) So techically, you can build your case and contact a

lawyer (offically) after a few years....your statute doesn't begin

until after that time.

 

That's a real shame 'cause most laypeople wouldn't realize right

away that they've been wronged by the medical system until it's too

late.

 

My friend's dad had a massive heart attack a few years back. They

were pushed around by the medical system who ordered all these

really expensive and inappropriate tests and such while he was in a

coma. Then his benefits ran out (as if they didn't know that would

happen in the first place) and they had to 'send him home to die'

under the care of his family who had no idea how to take care of

such a person in that condition. Well...that among other things that

went wrong while he was there (a nurse came to tell them privately

about some things that happened that shouldn't have). She mentioned

to me that she wished she had sued them before the statute ran out.

I asked her if she had ever contacted a lawyer...no...so now's she's

got a good case against the hospital and the doctor attending to him.

 

For some reason I thought Calif. was more liberal than what I've

been hearing....

 

Kim

 

herbal remedies, " Donald Eitner " <eitner.d@m...> wrote:

> MessageAnd you usually don't find out about the 1 year statute

until after that one year is already gone by. I know, cause I tried

to sue a Cal. hospital for negligence but I was too late.

>

> Don

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