Guest guest Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 Hi Mervyn,I live in NZ and have been taking oleander soup for just over 1 year with no side effects.When youve boiled it down it has to be strained properly through paper hand towels at room temperature to get rid of all vegetation particles.The particles left in the solution could be a source of bacteria.Most often a body starting to get rid of disease/toxicity/bugs etc will feel awful for a while.It can confuse if you havnt been through it before.When I first started oleander my heart raced at times and I had slightly fevered sleep with lurid delirious dreams.That soon evened out and dissapeared.Also because I was juicing green veg and dandelion and milkthistle a bit of diorreah.Raw oleander is highly poisonus and people have died from using oleander sticks at barbeques etc,so you were lucky.I put plastic bags on my hands to cut it up for soup.Now I take a shotglass once a day at dinner,the taste is so awful and food gets rid of the aftertaste.I think it's best taken with food.well that's my twopenneth worth.good luck....Pam - evitachristanty oleander soup Saturday, February 25, 2006 10:19 PM soup I made , dear Tony , This is my first email to the forum ,my name is mervyn norton an I use my wife evita email address ,. I live in the north of australia where I( have lived with oleander in our back yards all our lives not knowing anythink just that oleander was hard to kill an the roots where hard to dig out ,when we wanted to try some other nice plant it would not grow ,but no water no rain the oleander is still growing you could not git rid of it my problem at the moment I have a psa of 18 ,I dont want any doctors cutting into me etc so I have started oleander soup ,.I have made some soup but found a couple of leaves an a piece of stem in my second boiling of the soup ,.I dont know If I should keep taking it or not I cant seem to git up to three teaspoons a day without feeling sick an tired an sore in my body ,. Ihave been trying for about 6 weeks, should I throw the soup out an start again or is it okay ,The reason I am asking is I am overseas at the moment an cant find any oleander ,. please advise what you think ,.also once at home the cook used a couple of oleander sticks to hold the roast together an then cooked it ,we got pretty sick from that ,keep up the good work ,regards mervyn Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.0.0/268 - Release 2/23/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 dear Pam, thanks for the encourgement, I will try to hang in their , regards mervyn Pam Griffin <pgriff wrote: Hi Mervyn,I live in NZ and have been taking oleander soup for just over 1 year with no side effects.When youve boiled it down it has to be strained properly through paper hand towels at room temperature to get rid of all vegetation particles.The particles left in the solution could be a source of bacteria.Most often a body starting to get rid of disease/toxicity/bugs etc will feel awful for a while.It can confuse if you havnt been through it before.When I first started oleander my heart raced at times and I had slightly fevered sleep with lurid delirious dreams.That soon evened out and dissapeared.Also because I was juicing green veg and dandelion and milkthistle a bit of diorreah.Raw oleander is highly poisonus and people have died from using oleander sticks at barbeques etc,so you were lucky.I put plastic bags on my hands to cut it up for soup.Now I take a shotglass once a day at dinner,the taste is so awful and food gets rid of the aftertaste.I think it's best taken with food.well that's my twopenneth worth.good luck....Pam - evitachristanty oleander soup Saturday, February 25, 2006 10:19 PM soup I made , dear Tony , This is my first email to the forum ,my name is mervyn norton an I use my wife evita email address ,. I live in the north of australia where I( have lived with oleander in our back yards all our lives not knowing anythink just that oleander was hard to kill an the roots where hard to dig out ,when we wanted to try some other nice plant it would not grow ,but no water no rain the oleander is still growing you could not git rid of it my problem at the moment I have a psa of 18 ,I dont want any doctors cutting into me etc so I have started oleander soup ,.I have made some soup but found a couple of leaves an a piece of stem in my second boiling of the soup ,.I dont know If I should keep taking it or not I cant seem to git up to three teaspoons a day without feeling sick an tired an sore in my body ,. Ihave been trying for about 6 weeks, should I throw the soup out an start again or is it okay ,The reason I am asking is I am overseas at the moment an cant find any oleander ,. please advise what you think ,.also once at home the cook used a couple of oleander sticks to hold the roast together an then cooked it ,we got pretty sick from that ,keep up the good work ,regards mervyn Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.0.0/268 - Release 2/23/2006 on your mobile - Mail, Messenger, Movies and more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2006 Report Share Posted February 26, 2006 Pam, a shot glass? That's about four times the recommended dose, after your body has upjusted over several weeks. You are proof that Ozel's statements in his patent that too much won't hurt you. I take, as a preventative, a third of a shot glass daily, after my evening meal. I'm adjusted. If I skip a few days, I get constipated, even though I eat lots of roughage. Ed --- Pam Griffin <pgriff wrote: > Hi Mervyn,I live in NZ and have been taking oleander > soup for just over 1 year with no side effects.When > youve boiled it down it has to be strained properly > through paper hand towels at room temperature to get > rid of all vegetation particles.The particles left > in the solution could be a source of bacteria.Most > often a body starting to get rid of > disease/toxicity/bugs etc will feel awful for a > while.It can confuse if you havnt been through it > before.When I first started oleander my heart raced > at times and I had slightly fevered sleep with lurid > delirious dreams.That soon evened out and > dissapeared.Also because I was juicing green veg and > dandelion and milkthistle a bit of diorreah.Raw > oleander is highly poisonus and people have died > from using oleander sticks at barbeques etc,so you > were lucky.I put plastic bags on my hands to cut it > up for soup.Now I take a shotglass once a day at > dinner,the taste is so awful and food gets rid of > the aftertaste.I think it's best taken with > food.well that's my twopenneth worth.good > luck....Pam > - > evitachristanty > oleander soup > Saturday, February 25, 2006 10:19 PM > soup I made , > > > dear Tony , > This is my first email to the forum > ,my name is mervyn > norton an I use my wife evita email address ,. > I live in the north of australia where I( have > lived with oleander > in our back yards all our lives not knowing > anythink just that > oleander was hard to kill an the roots where hard > to dig out ,when > we wanted to try some other nice plant it would > not grow ,but no water > no rain the oleander is still growing you could > not git rid of it > > my problem at the moment I have a psa of 18 ,I > dont want any doctors > cutting into me etc so I have started oleander > soup ,. > I have made some soup but found a couple of leaves > an a piece of stem > in my second boiling of the soup ,.I dont know If > I should keep taking > it or not I cant seem to git up to three teaspoons > a day without > feeling sick an tired an sore in my body ,. Ihave > been trying for > about 6 weeks, should I throw the soup out an > start again or is it > okay ,The reason I am asking is I am overseas at > the moment an cant > find any oleander ,. please advise what you think > ,. > > also once at home the cook used a couple of > oleander sticks to hold > the roast together an then cooked it ,we got > pretty sick from that , > keep up the good work , > regards mervyn > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2006 Report Share Posted February 26, 2006 I dont fill it right up ,I must measure it but I think its about 2 to 3 tablespoons.........How do you find the taste?I find it pretty awful and hard to disguise.But sure its doing me good..........Pam - Edward Hensley oleander soup Sunday, February 26, 2006 1:59 PM Re: soup I made , Pam, a shot glass? That's about four times therecommended dose, after your body has upjusted overseveral weeks. You are proof that Ozel's statementsin his patent that too much won't hurt you. I take,as a preventative, a third of a shot glass daily,after my evening meal. I'm adjusted. If I skip a fewdays, I get constipated, even though I eat lots ofroughage. Ed--- Pam Griffin <pgriff wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 Yeah, it's natural taste will not win any wine tasting contests, that's for sure! That is why it is recommended in my book that you use a flavoring concentrate. Some use things like boysenberry flavoring. I have seen some really good natural concentrates recently at the health food sections at the grocery marktet - like grape, or grape with grapeseed, or pomegranate. Shot glasses you say? I take it that Ed and Pam use the vodka as the preferred preservative. I had several shot glasses myself last night - just without the oleander. A warning: the FDA phase one trials that normally establish a safe dosage amount came nowhere near that amount with Anvirzel. They limited the dose based more on the practical volume limit for an injection, so there is quite the margin for error in the recommended daily dose levesl. The cardiac glycoside oleandrin is a non-polar (not water soluable) compound, so the amount you get by boiling is quite tiny. HOWEVER, it does cross assay with digoxin/digatalis and once you do begin to reach levels that could be dangerous, it is a pretty steep bell curve. So, the answer is that you CAN take too much. Stick to the recommeded amounts and you should be just fine. oleander soup , " Pam Griffin " <pgriff wrote: > > I dont fill it right up ,I must measure it but I think its about 2 to 3 tablespoons.........How do you find the taste?I find it pretty awful and hard to disguise.But sure its doing me good..........Pam > - > Edward Hensley > oleander soup > Sunday, February 26, 2006 1:59 PM > Re: soup I made , > > > Pam, a shot glass? That's about four times the > recommended dose, after your body has upjusted over > several weeks. You are proof that Ozel's statements > in his patent that too much won't hurt you. I take, > as a preventative, a third of a shot glass daily, > after my evening meal. I'm adjusted. If I skip a few > days, I get constipated, even though I eat lots of > roughage. Ed > > --- Pam Griffin <pgriff wrote: > > a.. > b.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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