Cleanses, the liver and fighting cancer

[Guest guest]

Mary -

 

First of all, let me say that Diana went to a lot obviously caring

effort and gave you some wonderful information. I probably came

across as a cross old grouch earlier (Sorry Diana!), not so much

because of Diana or some issues I have with Hulda Clark (as I said,

her cleanses are considered excellent and have helped a great many

people), but because you had asked me and I took the time to put

together quiet the response, thought it was posted, and, in a hurry I

closed the document I had used to write it in without

saving . . . . .only to find I had lost it all!

 

ARRRGGGHHH!

 

So, my apologies to Diana if I came across as an old grouch, when I

should have been kicking my own rump! (Although in the future, while

I welcome input from one and all, and especially well thought efforts

such as Diana's post, I would appreciate the opportunity to answer

questions made directly of me first, and THEN welcome additional

input).

 

I also apologize to you Mary for being so tardy in getting back to

you. It is a very hectic end of a very hectic month and I have been

playing catchup ever since I got back from taking off the first

couple of weeks. What is the old rule - for every day you take off,

you fall two days behind? And it is hard to find catch up time when

you already work 14-16 hours a day almost every day of the week! Sigh.

 

Anyway, here I am, a little bleary and worse for wear and tear (sorry

Mick) and I will attempt to include the gist of what I meant to post

earlier.

 

First of all, I think cleansing is a wonderful idea. Unless time is

of the essence (and I do understand that cancer waits on no one), if

it were me, I start off with a liver cleanse or a whole body cleanse

and then begin taking OS and other items you choose to help fight and

shrink the tumors.

 

Cleansing will lead to a healthier body that is better able to

utilize the good things you will be consuming, including good foods

as well as supplements.

 

On the other hand, cleansing will likely result in quite a few toxins

being processed through the liver, just the same as any effective

cancer protocol or supplements will also do when they begin to cause

large cancer cell die offs and the dying cells release their toxins.

 

If you desire to do further cleanses as you take the OS, it would be

best to spread them out, and if any cleanse you do specifies to not

take anything else but what it recommends, then do not take the OS

during that cleanse period.

 

When cancer appears it is almost certain that the you have an overall

impaired immune system that the cancer was able to get by and gain a

foothold, and it is also almost certain that the liver itself is

impaired.

 

That makes two considerations, in my opinion, of prime importance:

 

First of all, you do not want to send a cascade of toxins into an

already impaired liver and that is the reason for cleansing first and

then beginning the anti-cancer protocol, and

 

Second, anyone who is fighting cancer should take steps to help

protect and regenerate the liver. That includes periodic cleanses as

well as the foods and supplements known to be beneficial for the

liver.

 

Avoid meat products, dairy products and processed grains. Include

lots of raw organic vegetables, some fruits, and juiced vegetables

and fruit along with lots of good clean water.

 

Beet juice is very good for the liver. Coconut oil helps keep the

bile ducts open and aids the elimination of toxic wastes.

 

When it comes to supplements, the best ones to help protect and

regenerate the liver are:

 

Milk Thistle

Selenium

MSM

Turmeric

Alpha Lipoic Acid

 

Of these, milk thistle is the most potent in both protecting and

regenerating the liver.

 

The wonderful thing about the liver is that nature has made allowance

for it's role as a toxic waste processing center and it alone of all

the body's organs is able to regenerate itself. The liver can be

impaired, or diseased down to as low as 25% and still regenerate into

a completely healthy liver.

 

Now, as to your tumors, many people have found that inositol/IP6

shrinks and elminates tumors in very short order - and I have spoken

with several local people who swear by it. It is important to note

that it would be a good idea to add some extra calcium, magnesium,

zinc and trace minerals when using Inositol/IP6 for very long, as it

can interfere with the body's absorption of minerals and even deplete

or leach them over extended periods of use.

 

Finally, if you are not quite the " kitchen witch " extraordinaire as

Diana and not able or willing to make up all of your own cleanses,

there are some very good ones in the supplements catalog on my

website, as are most if not all of the other things mentioned here.

In particular, I recommend the Utopia Silver Products and those by

Jon Barron. And I remind you that any item not currently on sale

ordered from Utopia Silver from a link on my site qualifies for a 15%

discount by using the code LR001.

 

Yes, I am an affiliate of most of the things I have chosen to put on

my site, though far from all. However, I push the products so little

that the pittance I get is nothing and certainly no amount would be

enough to compel me to recommend anything unless I believed it was

appropriate.

 

If you are able to make up the cleanses Diana listed, then that would

be an excellent way to go. If not, there are some good ready made

ones you can use, or maybe you may use some of both the ones you make

and the ones you purchase. However you do it, the information Diana

provided is very good and you should be able to at the very least

incorporate much of it into the cleansing protocol you decide on.

 

If I left anything out, I will add to this information later. For

now, I think I will take a nap to get a little more energy back and

hopefully lose a little of my ragged edges!

 

BTW, as it so happens I am using the Liver Cleanse myself, as well as

all the listed supplements, along with diet, etc., to address a fatty

liver condition I cultivated years back and recently inflamed by

doing too much black salve at once, thus releasing my own cascade of

toxins into on my own liver.

 

Ah, and no more blue agave nectar for awhile either - maybe a good

long while. Drat!

 

Live long, live well, live happy!

 

 

oleander soup , " Mary " <maihards wrote:

>

> I've been doing a lot of reading and investigating. I'm wondering

> about doing the main cleansings ie: colon, parasite, kidney,

> liver/gallbladder and blood cleanse before starting on the OS again

> or can I do them while on the soup. Whats the best way to go to get

> the best results.

> Also how important and at what stage is it important to get some

> shrinkage of the tumors and what's the best way to accomplish this?

>

>

> I am just in the process of making the new batch of OS and hope to

> start taking it again tomorrow eve. What strength colloidal silver

is

> best to use as preservative?

>

> Thanks again for this website and all the help that is available.

>

> Best regards,

>

> Mary K

>

[Guest guest]

Ok mister grouchy- is it ok if i ask you a question?

what do you know about seaminerals and how good are they to take?

i was reading about Gery amena and his seaminerals, and iam very intrested but afraid to try.

waiting for your replay but not in a rash so take your time.

regards Mary

 

-

Tony

oleander soup

Saturday, December 01, 2007 1:24 PM

Cleanses, the liver and fighting cancer

 

 

Mary -First of all, let me say that Diana went to a lot obviously caring effort and gave you some wonderful information. I probably came across as a cross old grouch earlier (Sorry Diana!), not so much because of Diana or some issues I have with Hulda Clark (as I said, her cleanses are considered excellent and have helped a great many people), but because you had asked me and I took the time to put together quiet the response, thought it was posted, and, in a hurry I closed the document I had used to write it in without saving . . . . .only to find I had lost it all!ARRRGGGHHH!So, my apologies to Diana if I came across as an old grouch, when I should have been kicking my own rump! (Although in the future, while I welcome input from one and all, and especially well thought efforts such as Diana's post, I would appreciate the opportunity to answer questions made directly of me first, and THEN welcome additional input).I also apologize to you Mary for being so tardy in getting back to you. It is a very hectic end of a very hectic month and I have been playing catchup ever since I got back from taking off the first couple of weeks. What is the old rule - for every day you take off, you fall two days behind? And it is hard to find catch up time when you already work 14-16 hours a day almost every day of the week! Sigh.Anyway, here I am, a little bleary and worse for wear and tear (sorry Mick) and I will attempt to include the gist of what I meant to post earlier.First of all, I think cleansing is a wonderful idea. Unless time is of the essence (and I do understand that cancer waits on no one), if it were me, I start off with a liver cleanse or a whole body cleanse and then begin taking OS and other items you choose to help fight and shrink the tumors.Cleansing will lead to a healthier body that is better able to utilize the good things you will be consuming, including good foods as well as supplements.On the other hand, cleansing will likely result in quite a few toxins being processed through the liver, just the same as any effective cancer protocol or supplements will also do when they begin to cause large cancer cell die offs and the dying cells release their toxins.If you desire to do further cleanses as you take the OS, it would be best to spread them out, and if any cleanse you do specifies to not take anything else but what it recommends, then do not take the OS during that cleanse period.When cancer appears it is almost certain that the you have an overall impaired immune system that the cancer was able to get by and gain a foothold, and it is also almost certain that the liver itself is impaired.That makes two considerations, in my opinion, of prime importance:First of all, you do not want to send a cascade of toxins into an already impaired liver and that is the reason for cleansing first and then beginning the anti-cancer protocol, andSecond, anyone who is fighting cancer should take steps to help protect and regenerate the liver. That includes periodic cleanses as well as the foods and supplements known to be beneficial for the liver.Avoid meat products, dairy products and processed grains. Include lots of raw organic vegetables, some fruits, and juiced vegetables and fruit along with lots of good clean water.Beet juice is very good for the liver. Coconut oil helps keep the bile ducts open and aids the elimination of toxic wastes.When it comes to supplements, the best ones to help protect and regenerate the liver are:Milk ThistleSeleniumMSMTurmericAlpha Lipoic AcidOf these, milk thistle is the most potent in both protecting and regenerating the liver.The wonderful thing about the liver is that nature has made allowance for it's role as a toxic waste processing center and it alone of all the body's organs is able to regenerate itself. The liver can be impaired, or diseased down to as low as 25% and still regenerate into a completely healthy liver.Now, as to your tumors, many people have found that inositol/IP6 shrinks and elminates tumors in very short order - and I have spoken with several local people who swear by it. It is important to note that it would be a good idea to add some extra calcium, magnesium, zinc and trace minerals when using Inositol/IP6 for very long, as it can interfere with the body's absorption of minerals and even deplete or leach them over extended periods of use.Finally, if you are not quite the "kitchen witch" extraordinaire as Diana and not able or willing to make up all of your own cleanses, there are some very good ones in the supplements catalog on my website, as are most if not all of the other things mentioned here. In particular, I recommend the Utopia Silver Products and those by Jon Barron. And I remind you that any item not currently on sale ordered from Utopia Silver from a link on my site qualifies for a 15% discount by using the code LR001.Yes, I am an affiliate of most of the things I have chosen to put on my site, though far from all. However, I push the products so little that the pittance I get is nothing and certainly no amount would be enough to compel me to recommend anything unless I believed it was appropriate.If you are able to make up the cleanses Diana listed, then that would be an excellent way to go. If not, there are some good ready made ones you can use, or maybe you may use some of both the ones you make and the ones you purchase. However you do it, the information Diana provided is very good and you should be able to at the very least incorporate much of it into the cleansing protocol you decide on.If I left anything out, I will add to this information later. For now, I think I will take a nap to get a little more energy back and hopefully lose a little of my ragged edges!BTW, as it so happens I am using the Liver Cleanse myself, as well as all the listed supplements, along with diet, etc., to address a fatty liver condition I cultivated years back and recently inflamed by doing too much black salve at once, thus releasing my own cascade of toxins into on my own liver.Ah, and no more blue agave nectar for awhile either - maybe a good long while. Drat!Live long, live well, live happy!Tonyoleander soup , "Mary" <maihards wrote:>> I've been doing a lot of reading and investigating. I'm wondering> about doing the main cleansings ie: colon, parasite, kidney,> liver/gallbladder and blood cleanse before starting on the OS again> or can I do them while on the soup. Whats the best way to go to get> the best results. > Also how important and at what stage is it important to get some> shrinkage of the tumors and what's the best way to accomplish this? > > > I am just in the process of making the new batch of OS and hope to> start taking it again tomorrow eve. What strength colloidal silver is> best to use as preservative? > > Thanks again for this website and all the help that is available.> > Best regards,> > Mary K>

[Guest guest]

LOL!

 

Yes, I fear I was a grump for a bit. I stand duly chatened and hope

my good friend Diana does not intend to lash me too hard for being an

old sourpuss.

 

What I know? I like them, and, funny you asked, but I recently posted

a NewsTarget story about them on my website:

 

/healthnews.htm

 

Look in the NewsTarget section under the awesome " World Clock " on

that page. And btw, you can play around with the controls on the

clock.

 

Personally, I think that about as good of a source of trace minerals

as can be found is the plant derived minerals you can find a link to

on just about every page on my site, as well as in the catalog. I

could tell a noticeable difference when I first came here and took

those along with a product called Osygen. One guy I know, the lead

guitarist for the Pauline Reese and High Country bed has Crohn's

disease. He was flat on his back and took those two items along with

colloidal silver and was back playing in only days - and reports

feeling better than he has in years.

 

If you decide on the sea minerals let us know what you think.

 

 

oleander soup , " Maria Stathopoulos "

<mary1kon wrote:

>

> Ok mister grouchy- is it ok if i ask you a question?

> what do you know about seaminerals and how good are they to take?

> i was reading about Gery amena and his seaminerals, and iam very

intrested but afraid to try.

> waiting for your replay but not in a rash so take your time.

> regards Mary

> -

> > oleander soup

> Saturday, December 01, 2007 1:24 PM

> Cleanses, the liver and fighting cancer

>

>

> Mary -

>

> First of all, let me say that Diana went to a lot obviously

caring

> effort and gave you some wonderful information. I probably came

> across as a cross old grouch earlier (Sorry Diana!), not so much

> because of Diana or some issues I have with Hulda Clark (as I

said,

> her cleanses are considered excellent and have helped a great

many

> people), but because you had asked me and I took the time to put

> together quiet the response, thought it was posted, and, in a

hurry I

> closed the document I had used to write it in without

> saving . . . . .only to find I had lost it all!

>

> ARRRGGGHHH!

>

> So, my apologies to Diana if I came across as an old grouch, when

I

> should have been kicking my own rump! (Although in the future,

while

> I welcome input from one and all, and especially well thought

efforts

> such as Diana's post, I would appreciate the opportunity to

answer

> questions made directly of me first, and THEN welcome additional

> input).

>

> I also apologize to you Mary for being so tardy in getting back

to

> you. It is a very hectic end of a very hectic month and I have

been

> playing catchup ever since I got back from taking off the first

> couple of weeks. What is the old rule - for every day you take

off,

> you fall two days behind? And it is hard to find catch up time

when

> you already work 14-16 hours a day almost every day of the week!

Sigh.

>

> Anyway, here I am, a little bleary and worse for wear and tear

(sorry

> Mick) and I will attempt to include the gist of what I meant to

post

> earlier.

>

> First of all, I think cleansing is a wonderful idea. Unless time

is

> of the essence (and I do understand that cancer waits on no one),

if

> it were me, I start off with a liver cleanse or a whole body

cleanse

> and then begin taking OS and other items you choose to help fight

and

> shrink the tumors.

>

> Cleansing will lead to a healthier body that is better able to

> utilize the good things you will be consuming, including good

foods

> as well as supplements.

>

> On the other hand, cleansing will likely result in quite a few

toxins

> being processed through the liver, just the same as any effective

> cancer protocol or supplements will also do when they begin to

cause

> large cancer cell die offs and the dying cells release their

toxins.

>

> If you desire to do further cleanses as you take the OS, it would

be

> best to spread them out, and if any cleanse you do specifies to

not

> take anything else but what it recommends, then do not take the

OS

> during that cleanse period.

>

> When cancer appears it is almost certain that the you have an

overall

> impaired immune system that the cancer was able to get by and

gain a

> foothold, and it is also almost certain that the liver itself is

> impaired.

>

> That makes two considerations, in my opinion, of prime importance:

>

> First of all, you do not want to send a cascade of toxins into an

> already impaired liver and that is the reason for cleansing first

and

> then beginning the anti-cancer protocol, and

>

> Second, anyone who is fighting cancer should take steps to help

> protect and regenerate the liver. That includes periodic cleanses

as

> well as the foods and supplements known to be beneficial for the

> liver.

>

> Avoid meat products, dairy products and processed grains. Include

> lots of raw organic vegetables, some fruits, and juiced

vegetables

> and fruit along with lots of good clean water.

>

> Beet juice is very good for the liver. Coconut oil helps keep the

> bile ducts open and aids the elimination of toxic wastes.

>

> When it comes to supplements, the best ones to help protect and

> regenerate the liver are:

>

> Milk Thistle

> Selenium

> MSM

> Turmeric

> Alpha Lipoic Acid

>

> Of these, milk thistle is the most potent in both protecting and

> regenerating the liver.

>

> The wonderful thing about the liver is that nature has made

allowance

> for it's role as a toxic waste processing center and it alone of

all

> the body's organs is able to regenerate itself. The liver can be

> impaired, or diseased down to as low as 25% and still regenerate

into

> a completely healthy liver.

>

> Now, as to your tumors, many people have found that inositol/IP6

> shrinks and elminates tumors in very short order - and I have

spoken

> with several local people who swear by it. It is important to

note

> that it would be a good idea to add some extra calcium,

magnesium,

> zinc and trace minerals when using Inositol/IP6 for very long, as

it

> can interfere with the body's absorption of minerals and even

deplete

> or leach them over extended periods of use.

>

> Finally, if you are not quite the " kitchen witch " extraordinaire

as

> Diana and not able or willing to make up all of your own

cleanses,

> there are some very good ones in the supplements catalog on my

> website, as are most if not all of the other things mentioned

here.

> In particular, I recommend the Utopia Silver Products and those

by

> Jon Barron. And I remind you that any item not currently on sale

> ordered from Utopia Silver from a link on my site qualifies for a

15%

> discount by using the code LR001.

>

> Yes, I am an affiliate of most of the things I have chosen to put

on

> my site, though far from all. However, I push the products so

little

> that the pittance I get is nothing and certainly no amount would

be

> enough to compel me to recommend anything unless I believed it

was

> appropriate.

>

> If you are able to make up the cleanses Diana listed, then that

would

> be an excellent way to go. If not, there are some good ready made

> ones you can use, or maybe you may use some of both the ones you

make

> and the ones you purchase. However you do it, the information

Diana

> provided is very good and you should be able to at the very least

> incorporate much of it into the cleansing protocol you decide on.

>

> If I left anything out, I will add to this information later. For

> now, I think I will take a nap to get a little more energy back

and

> hopefully lose a little of my ragged edges!

>

> BTW, as it so happens I am using the Liver Cleanse myself, as

well as

> all the listed supplements, along with diet, etc., to address a

fatty

> liver condition I cultivated years back and recently inflamed by

> doing too much black salve at once, thus releasing my own cascade

of

> toxins into on my own liver.

>

> Ah, and no more blue agave nectar for awhile either - maybe a

good

> long while. Drat!

>

> Live long, live well, live happy!

>

> >

> oleander soup , " Mary " <maihards@> wrote:

> >

> > I've been doing a lot of reading and investigating. I'm

wondering

> > about doing the main cleansings ie: colon, parasite, kidney,

> > liver/gallbladder and blood cleanse before starting on the OS

again

> > or can I do them while on the soup. Whats the best way to go to

get

> > the best results.

> > Also how important and at what stage is it important to get some

> > shrinkage of the tumors and what's the best way to accomplish

this?

> >

> >

> > I am just in the process of making the new batch of OS and hope

to

> > start taking it again tomorrow eve. What strength colloidal

silver

> is

> > best to use as preservative?

> >

> > Thanks again for this website and all the help that is

available.

> >

> > Best regards,

> >

> > Mary K

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you Tony and all the others that have shared with me. I have plenty to go with.

Mary K

 

 

----

 

 

1/12/2007 4:33:57 PM

oleander soup

Cleanses, the liver and fighting cancer

 

 

Mary -First of all, let me say that Diana went to a lot obviously caring effort and gave you some wonderful information. I probably came across as a cross old grouch earlier (Sorry Diana!), not so much because of Diana or some issues I have with Hulda Clark (as I said, her cleanses are considered excellent and have helped a great many people), but because you had asked me and I took the time to put together quiet the response, thought it was posted, and, in a hurry I closed the document I had used to write it in without saving . . . . .only to find I had lost it all!ARRRGGGHHH!So, my apologies to Diana if I came across as an old grouch, when I should have been kicking my own rump! (Although in the future, while I welcome input from one and all, and especially well thought efforts such as Diana's post, I would appreciate the opportunity to answer questions made directly of me first, and THEN welcome additional input).I also apologize to you Mary for being so tardy in getting back to you. It is a very hectic end of a very hectic month and I have been playing catchup ever since I got back from taking off the first couple of weeks. What is the old rule - for every day you take off, you fall two days behind? And it is hard to find catch up time when you already work 14-16 hours a day almost every day of the week! Sigh.Anyway, here I am, a little bleary and worse for wear and tear (sorry Mick) and I will attempt to include the gist of what I meant to post earlier.First of all, I think cleansing is a wonderful idea. Unless time is of the essence (and I do understand that cancer waits on no one), if it were me, I start off with a liver cleanse or a whole body cleanse and then begin taking OS and other items you choose to help fight and shrink the tumors.Cleansing will lead to a healthier body that is better able to utilize the good things you will be consuming, including good foods as well as supplements.On the other hand, cleansing will likely result in quite a few toxins being processed through the liver, just the same as any effective cancer protocol or supplements will also do when they begin to cause large cancer cell die offs and the dying cells release their toxins.If you desire to do further cleanses as you take the OS, it would be best to spread them out, and if any cleanse you do specifies to not take anything else but what it recommends, then do not take the OS during that cleanse period.When cancer appears it is almost certain that the you have an overall impaired immune system that the cancer was able to get by and gain a foothold, and it is also almost certain that the liver itself is impaired.That makes two considerations, in my opinion, of prime importance:First of all, you do not want to send a cascade of toxins into an already impaired liver and that is the reason for cleansing first and then beginning the anti-cancer protocol, andSecond, anyone who is fighting cancer should take steps to help protect and regenerate the liver. That includes periodic cleanses as well as the foods and supplements known to be beneficial for the liver.Avoid meat products, dairy products and processed grains. Include lots of raw organic vegetables, some fruits, and juiced vegetables and fruit along with lots of good clean water.Beet juice is very good for the liver. Coconut oil helps keep the bile ducts open and aids the elimination of toxic wastes.When it comes to supplements, the best ones to help protect and regenerate the liver are:Milk ThistleSeleniumMSMTurmericAlpha Lipoic AcidOf these, milk thistle is the most potent in both protecting and regenerating the liver.The wonderful thing about the liver is that nature has made allowance for it's role as a toxic waste processing center and it alone of all the body's organs is able to regenerate itself. The liver can be impaired, or diseased down to as low as 25% and still regenerate into a completely healthy liver.Now, as to your tumors, many people have found that inositol/IP6 shrinks and elminates tumors in very short order - and I have spoken with several local people who swear by it. It is important to note that it would be a good idea to add some extra calcium, magnesium, zinc and trace minerals when using Inositol/IP6 for very long, as it can interfere with the body's absorption of minerals and even deplete or leach them over extended periods of use.Finally, if you are not quite the "kitchen witch" extraordinaire as Diana and not able or willing to make up all of your own cleanses, there are some very good ones in the supplements catalog on my website, as are most if not all of the other things mentioned here. In particular, I recommend the Utopia Silver Products and those by Jon Barron. And I remind you that any item not currently on sale ordered from Utopia Silver from a link on my site qualifies for a 15% discount by using the code LR001.Yes, I am an affiliate of most of the things I have chosen to put on my site, though far from all. However, I push the products so little that the pittance I get is nothing and certainly no amount would be enough to compel me to recommend anything unless I believed it was appropriate.If you are able to make up the cleanses Diana listed, then that would be an excellent way to go. If not, there are some good ready made ones you can use, or maybe you may use some of both the ones you make and the ones you purchase. However you do it, the information Diana provided is very good and you should be able to at the very least incorporate much of it into the cleansing protocol you decide on.If I left anything out, I will add to this information later. For now, I think I will take a nap to get a little more energy back and hopefully lose a little of my ragged edges!BTW, as it so happens I am using the Liver Cleanse myself, as well as all the listed supplements, along with diet, etc., to address a fatty liver condition I cultivated years back and recently inflamed by doing too much black salve at once, thus releasing my own cascade of toxins into on my own liver.Ah, and no more blue agave nectar for awhile either - maybe a good long while. Drat!Live long, live well, live happy!Tonyoleander soup , "Mary" <maihards wrote:>> I've been doing a lot of reading and investigating. I'm wondering> about doing the main cleansings ie: colon, parasite, kidney,> liver/gallbladder and blood cleanse before starting on the OS again> or can I do them while on the soup. Whats the best way to go to get> the best results. > Also how important and at what stage is it important to get some> shrinkage of the tumors and what's the best way to accomplish this? > > > I am just in the process of making the new batch of OS and hope to> start taking it again tomorrow eve. What strength colloidal silver is> best to use as preservative? > > Thanks again for this website and all the help that is available.> > Best regards,> > Mary K>

 

[Guest guest]

Tony,i just KNEW u would make some comment about HULDA!!! however, i recall u speaking of your issues with THAT woman, u did say u liked her cleanses. and i did not think of u as an old grouch. u just like to speak your mind (as i do). i DO think of you as an idealistic, altruistic kinda guy, who, by the way needs to take care of yourself and get more rest. how can u take care of us, if u don't start with yourself? so there!diana the kitchen witch

[Guest guest]

Thanks Tony.

i went to your side and read about the seaminerals, then i tried to go where you said go here to buy - http://seamineral.com/prod cat.asp?cat id=2 - but all i got was the server not found, iam leting you know so you can fix that.

i will try an Australian site, and see if i can find the product, and yes i will let you know when i take it.

regards Mary.

p.s. i was only joking when i call you grouchy OK?

 

-

Tony

oleander soup

Saturday, December 01, 2007 3:13 PM

Re: Cleanses, the liver and fighting cancer

 

 

LOL!Yes, I fear I was a grump for a bit. I stand duly chatened and hope my good friend Diana does not intend to lash me too hard for being an old sourpuss.What I know? I like them, and, funny you asked, but I recently posted a NewsTarget story about them on my website:/healthnews.htmLook in the NewsTarget section under the awesome "World Clock" on that page. And btw, you can play around with the controls on the clock.Personally, I think that about as good of a source of trace minerals as can be found is the plant derived minerals you can find a link to on just about every page on my site, as well as in the catalog. I could tell a noticeable difference when I first came here and took those along with a product called Osygen. One guy I know, the lead guitarist for the Pauline Reese and High Country bed has Crohn's disease. He was flat on his back and took those two items along with colloidal silver and was back playing in only days - and reports feeling better than he has in years.If you decide on the sea minerals let us know what you think.Tonyoleander soup , "Maria Stathopoulos" <mary1kon wrote:>> Ok mister grouchy- is it ok if i ask you a question?> what do you know about seaminerals and how good are they to take?> i was reading about Gery amena and his seaminerals, and iam very intrested but afraid to try.> waiting for your replay but not in a rash so take your time.> regards Mary> - > Tony > oleander soup > Saturday, December 01, 2007 1:24 PM> Cleanses, the liver and fighting cancer> > > Mary -> > First of all, let me say that Diana went to a lot obviously caring > effort and gave you some wonderful information. I probably came > across as a cross old grouch earlier (Sorry Diana!), not so much > because of Diana or some issues I have with Hulda Clark (as I said, > her cleanses are considered excellent and have helped a great many > people), but because you had asked me and I took the time to put > together quiet the response, thought it was posted, and, in a hurry I > closed the document I had used to write it in without > saving . . . . .only to find I had lost it all!> > ARRRGGGHHH!> > So, my apologies to Diana if I came across as an old grouch, when I > should have been kicking my own rump! (Although in the future, while > I welcome input from one and all, and especially well thought efforts > such as Diana's post, I would appreciate the opportunity to answer > questions made directly of me first, and THEN welcome additional > input).> > I also apologize to you Mary for being so tardy in getting back to > you. It is a very hectic end of a very hectic month and I have been > playing catchup ever since I got back from taking off the first > couple of weeks. What is the old rule - for every day you take off, > you fall two days behind? And it is hard to find catch up time when > you already work 14-16 hours a day almost every day of the week! Sigh.> > Anyway, here I am, a little bleary and worse for wear and tear (sorry > Mick) and I will attempt to include the gist of what I meant to post > earlier.> > First of all, I think cleansing is a wonderful idea. Unless time is > of the essence (and I do understand that cancer waits on no one), if > it were me, I start off with a liver cleanse or a whole body cleanse > and then begin taking OS and other items you choose to help fight and > shrink the tumors.> > Cleansing will lead to a healthier body that is better able to > utilize the good things you will be consuming, including good foods > as well as supplements.> > On the other hand, cleansing will likely result in quite a few toxins > being processed through the liver, just the same as any effective > cancer protocol or supplements will also do when they begin to cause > large cancer cell die offs and the dying cells release their toxins.> > If you desire to do further cleanses as you take the OS, it would be > best to spread them out, and if any cleanse you do specifies to not > take anything else but what it recommends, then do not take the OS > during that cleanse period.> > When cancer appears it is almost certain that the you have an overall > impaired immune system that the cancer was able to get by and gain a > foothold, and it is also almost certain that the liver itself is > impaired.> > That makes two considerations, in my opinion, of prime importance:> > First of all, you do not want to send a cascade of toxins into an > already impaired liver and that is the reason for cleansing first and > then beginning the anti-cancer protocol, and> > Second, anyone who is fighting cancer should take steps to help > protect and regenerate the liver. That includes periodic cleanses as > well as the foods and supplements known to be beneficial for the > liver.> > Avoid meat products, dairy products and processed grains. Include > lots of raw organic vegetables, some fruits, and juiced vegetables > and fruit along with lots of good clean water.> > Beet juice is very good for the liver. Coconut oil helps keep the > bile ducts open and aids the elimination of toxic wastes.> > When it comes to supplements, the best ones to help protect and > regenerate the liver are:> > Milk Thistle> Selenium> MSM> Turmeric> Alpha Lipoic Acid> > Of these, milk thistle is the most potent in both protecting and > regenerating the liver.> > The wonderful thing about the liver is that nature has made allowance > for it's role as a toxic waste processing center and it alone of all > the body's organs is able to regenerate itself. The liver can be > impaired, or diseased down to as low as 25% and still regenerate into > a completely healthy liver.> > Now, as to your tumors, many people have found that inositol/IP6 > shrinks and elminates tumors in very short order - and I have spoken > with several local people who swear by it. It is important to note > that it would be a good idea to add some extra calcium, magnesium, > zinc and trace minerals when using Inositol/IP6 for very long, as it > can interfere with the body's absorption of minerals and even deplete > or leach them over extended periods of use.> > Finally, if you are not quite the "kitchen witch" extraordinaire as > Diana and not able or willing to make up all of your own cleanses, > there are some very good ones in the supplements catalog on my > website, as are most if not all of the other things mentioned here. > In particular, I recommend the Utopia Silver Products and those by > Jon Barron. And I remind you that any item not currently on sale > ordered from Utopia Silver from a link on my site qualifies for a 15% > discount by using the code LR001.> > Yes, I am an affiliate of most of the things I have chosen to put on > my site, though far from all. However, I push the products so little > that the pittance I get is nothing and certainly no amount would be > enough to compel me to recommend anything unless I believed it was > appropriate.> > If you are able to make up the cleanses Diana listed, then that would > be an excellent way to go. If not, there are some good ready made > ones you can use, or maybe you may use some of both the ones you make > and the ones you purchase. However you do it, the information Diana > provided is very good and you should be able to at the very least > incorporate much of it into the cleansing protocol you decide on.> > If I left anything out, I will add to this information later. For > now, I think I will take a nap to get a little more energy back and > hopefully lose a little of my ragged edges!> > BTW, as it so happens I am using the Liver Cleanse myself, as well as > all the listed supplements, along with diet, etc., to address a fatty > liver condition I cultivated years back and recently inflamed by > doing too much black salve at once, thus releasing my own cascade of > toxins into on my own liver.> > Ah, and no more blue agave nectar for awhile either - maybe a good > long while. Drat!> > Live long, live well, live happy!> > Tony> > oleander soup , "Mary" <maihards@> wrote:> >> > I've been doing a lot of reading and investigating. I'm wondering> > about doing the main cleansings ie: colon, parasite, kidney,> > liver/gallbladder and blood cleanse before starting on the OS again> > or can I do them while on the soup. Whats the best way to go to get> > the best results. > > Also how important and at what stage is it important to get some> > shrinkage of the tumors and what's the best way to accomplish this? > > > > > > I am just in the process of making the new batch of OS and hope to> > start taking it again tomorrow eve. What strength colloidal silver > is> > best to use as preservative? > > > > Thanks again for this website and all the help that is available.> > > > Best regards,> > > > Mary K> >>

[Guest guest]

Happy birthday Tony.

by the way how hm young are you big boy? are you there yet, you know the big numbers.

all the best.

regards Mary

 

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Tony

oleander soup

Saturday, December 01, 2007 3:13 PM

Re: Cleanses, the liver and fighting cancer

 

 

LOL!Yes, I fear I was a grump for a bit. I stand duly chatened and hope my good friend Diana does not intend to lash me too hard for being an old sourpuss.What I know? I like them, and, funny you asked, but I recently posted a NewsTarget story about them on my website:/healthnews.htmLook in the NewsTarget section under the awesome "World Clock" on that page. And btw, you can play around with the controls on the clock.Personally, I think that about as good of a source of trace minerals as can be found is the plant derived minerals you can find a link to on just about every page on my site, as well as in the catalog. I could tell a noticeable difference when I first came here and took those along with a product called Osygen. One guy I know, the lead guitarist for the Pauline Reese and High Country bed has Crohn's disease. He was flat on his back and took those two items along with colloidal silver and was back playing in only days - and reports feeling better than he has in years.If you decide on the sea minerals let us know what you think.Tonyoleander soup , "Maria Stathopoulos" <mary1kon wrote:>> Ok mister grouchy- is it ok if i ask you a question?> what do you know about seaminerals and how good are they to take?> i was reading about Gery amena and his seaminerals, and iam very intrested but afraid to try.> waiting for your replay but not in a rash so take your time.> regards Mary> - > Tony > oleander soup > Saturday, December 01, 2007 1:24 PM> Cleanses, the liver and fighting cancer> > > Mary -> > First of all, let me say that Diana went to a lot obviously caring > effort and gave you some wonderful information. I probably came > across as a cross old grouch earlier (Sorry Diana!), not so much > because of Diana or some issues I have with Hulda Clark (as I said, > her cleanses are considered excellent and have helped a great many > people), but because you had asked me and I took the time to put > together quiet the response, thought it was posted, and, in a hurry I > closed the document I had used to write it in without > saving . . . . .only to find I had lost it all!> > ARRRGGGHHH!> > So, my apologies to Diana if I came across as an old grouch, when I > should have been kicking my own rump! (Although in the future, while > I welcome input from one and all, and especially well thought efforts > such as Diana's post, I would appreciate the opportunity to answer > questions made directly of me first, and THEN welcome additional > input).> > I also apologize to you Mary for being so tardy in getting back to > you. It is a very hectic end of a very hectic month and I have been > playing catchup ever since I got back from taking off the first > couple of weeks. What is the old rule - for every day you take off, > you fall two days behind? And it is hard to find catch up time when > you already work 14-16 hours a day almost every day of the week! Sigh.> > Anyway, here I am, a little bleary and worse for wear and tear (sorry > Mick) and I will attempt to include the gist of what I meant to post > earlier.> > First of all, I think cleansing is a wonderful idea. Unless time is > of the essence (and I do understand that cancer waits on no one), if > it were me, I start off with a liver cleanse or a whole body cleanse > and then begin taking OS and other items you choose to help fight and > shrink the tumors.> > Cleansing will lead to a healthier body that is better able to > utilize the good things you will be consuming, including good foods > as well as supplements.> > On the other hand, cleansing will likely result in quite a few toxins > being processed through the liver, just the same as any effective > cancer protocol or supplements will also do when they begin to cause > large cancer cell die offs and the dying cells release their toxins.> > If you desire to do further cleanses as you take the OS, it would be > best to spread them out, and if any cleanse you do specifies to not > take anything else but what it recommends, then do not take the OS > during that cleanse period.> > When cancer appears it is almost certain that the you have an overall > impaired immune system that the cancer was able to get by and gain a > foothold, and it is also almost certain that the liver itself is > impaired.> > That makes two considerations, in my opinion, of prime importance:> > First of all, you do not want to send a cascade of toxins into an > already impaired liver and that is the reason for cleansing first and > then beginning the anti-cancer protocol, and> > Second, anyone who is fighting cancer should take steps to help > protect and regenerate the liver. That includes periodic cleanses as > well as the foods and supplements known to be beneficial for the > liver.> > Avoid meat products, dairy products and processed grains. Include > lots of raw organic vegetables, some fruits, and juiced vegetables > and fruit along with lots of good clean water.> > Beet juice is very good for the liver. Coconut oil helps keep the > bile ducts open and aids the elimination of toxic wastes.> > When it comes to supplements, the best ones to help protect and > regenerate the liver are:> > Milk Thistle> Selenium> MSM> Turmeric> Alpha Lipoic Acid> > Of these, milk thistle is the most potent in both protecting and > regenerating the liver.> > The wonderful thing about the liver is that nature has made allowance > for it's role as a toxic waste processing center and it alone of all > the body's organs is able to regenerate itself. The liver can be > impaired, or diseased down to as low as 25% and still regenerate into > a completely healthy liver.> > Now, as to your tumors, many people have found that inositol/IP6 > shrinks and elminates tumors in very short order - and I have spoken > with several local people who swear by it. It is important to note > that it would be a good idea to add some extra calcium, magnesium, > zinc and trace minerals when using Inositol/IP6 for very long, as it > can interfere with the body's absorption of minerals and even deplete > or leach them over extended periods of use.> > Finally, if you are not quite the "kitchen witch" extraordinaire as > Diana and not able or willing to make up all of your own cleanses, > there are some very good ones in the supplements catalog on my > website, as are most if not all of the other things mentioned here. > In particular, I recommend the Utopia Silver Products and those by > Jon Barron. And I remind you that any item not currently on sale > ordered from Utopia Silver from a link on my site qualifies for a 15% > discount by using the code LR001.> > Yes, I am an affiliate of most of the things I have chosen to put on > my site, though far from all. However, I push the products so little > that the pittance I get is nothing and certainly no amount would be > enough to compel me to recommend anything unless I believed it was > appropriate.> > If you are able to make up the cleanses Diana listed, then that would > be an excellent way to go. If not, there are some good ready made > ones you can use, or maybe you may use some of both the ones you make > and the ones you purchase. However you do it, the information Diana > provided is very good and you should be able to at the very least > incorporate much of it into the cleansing protocol you decide on.> > If I left anything out, I will add to this information later. For > now, I think I will take a nap to get a little more energy back and > hopefully lose a little of my ragged edges!> > BTW, as it so happens I am using the Liver Cleanse myself, as well as > all the listed supplements, along with diet, etc., to address a fatty > liver condition I cultivated years back and recently inflamed by > doing too much black salve at once, thus releasing my own cascade of > toxins into on my own liver.> > Ah, and no more blue agave nectar for awhile either - maybe a good > long while. Drat!> > Live long, live well, live happy!> > Tony> > oleander soup , "Mary" <maihards@> wrote:> >> > I've been doing a lot of reading and investigating. I'm wondering> > about doing the main cleansings ie: colon, parasite, kidney,> > liver/gallbladder and blood cleanse before starting on the OS again> > or can I do them while on the soup. Whats the best way to go to get> > the best results. > > Also how important and at what stage is it important to get some> > shrinkage of the tumors and what's the best way to accomplish this? > > > > > > I am just in the process of making the new batch of OS and hope to> > start taking it again tomorrow eve. What strength colloidal silver > is> > best to use as preservative? > > > > Thanks again for this website and all the help that is available.> > > > Best regards,> > > > Mary K> >>