Food Irradiation: Pros and Cons-- corrected typos! Begging your pardon.

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I will remain a purist on this issue. Though I do not have the means in front of me to reference the exact issue in the Townsend Letter, an issue about 12 years ago gave the actual number of free radicals generated in irradiated food. I feel safer standing in front of an x-ray machine. I want my spinach raw. I want my almonds raw, not "homogenized"! I care not a hair what Europe accepts; a continent that has been going Godless, sterile, and into more and more sexual perversion and societal deviancy for 40 years is not my guiding light of wisdom. Much rather I take my chances

with microorganisms than more governmental control to denature my food. Leave my food alone! Get your jeans and your genes out of my food. Ed, I trust you more in that than any other lawyer. However as a student of human nutrition for 31 years, I trust my own notions about the food supply and others who have been involved a lifetime in this study. There is a 100% concurrence that we'd rather live w/ microorganisms that eat anything irradiated.Dr. Goebeled4soup <ed4636 > wrote: David, in Europe, irradiated food has been accepted, without reported negative consequence for at least 15 years. What I've seen says it kills active, live, bacteria in the food only when it is radiated and packaged. Once irridated, the radiation does not remain in the food.

The bacteria free food later does not kill the natural bacteria we need within our digestive system. That was a fear over a decade ago, but has been proven to be unfounded. You can search "food irradiation europe" for many articles going way back. There was a recent special on the History Channel on this also. With the spread of disease from imported fruit and vegetables from countries to the south which use human waste in their fields and is handled by poor folks with diseases like cholera and TB, it makes sense. The chlorine, floride, and lead in our water supplies is much more harmful than irradiation could ever be. Question, what molecules are changed in the food when irradiated, and how does that change the nutritional value of the food? Any published studies on that topic? oleander soup , ahzoov wrote: > > , > Your gov't wants to irradiate all our food. They say it will insure against > e-coli. However, irradiation changes the molecular structure of the food, and > it kills good bacteria our bodies need. The REAL reason they want to > irradiate our food is to find something to do with the waste from nuclear energy > plants. Something profitable. Another decision that helps corporations while > injuring the population. > YOUR COMMENTS ARE NEEDED NOW. TOMORROW THEY CUT OFF THE COMMENT PERIOD > HOW TO SUBMIT: > Go to _www.regulations.gov_ (http://www.regulations.gov/) . In the middle of > the screen, you will see “Search Documents.†> > In Step 1, choose “Documents with an open comments period†> In Step 2, choose “Department of Agriculture†> In Step 3, choose “PROPOSED RULES†> In Step 4, choose “Docket ID†and then type in “AMS-FV-07-0090†> > Hit “Submit.†> Next, you will see a column titled “Comments, add/due by.†Click on the > TINY TAN DIALOGUE ICON (top left part of the page), and you are now ready to > submit your information and your comment. > Next: Write your people in congress and scream! > _http://www.webslingerz.com/jhoffman/congress-email.html_ > (http://www.webslingerz.com/jhoffman/congress-email.html) > > > > > **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest > products. > (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search.

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I forsee two sections in the grocery store:

 

Section 1: Food with all the natural and man induced bacteria, with

warnings about possible illness including a long list of possible

disease which cannot be washed off during processing.

 

Section 2: Food that has been nuked, with warnings about how the

nutritional value(unproven) may not be as good as food in section #1,

but with a guarantee it will last unopened for at least six months

after purchase, including milk, eggs, meat, and cheese, and is disease

free.

 

I'm looking for a way to invest in companies that make the nuke

machines. Ed

 

 

 

oleander soup , Michael Goebel <goebelchx wrote:

>

> I will remain a purist on this issue. Though

I do not have the means in front of me to reference the exact issue in

the Townsend Letter, an issue about 12 years ago gave the actual

number of free radicals generated in irradiated food. I feel safer

standing in front of an x-ray machine.

>

> I want my spinach raw. I want my almonds raw, not " homogenized " ! I

care not a hair what Europe accepts; a continent that has been going

Godless, sterile, and into more and more sexual perversion and

societal deviancy for 40 years is not my guiding light of wisdom.

>

> Much rather I take my chances with microorganisms than more

governmental control to denature my food. Leave my food alone! Get

your jeans and your genes out of my food. Ed, I trust you more in

that than any other lawyer. However as a student of human nutrition

for 31 years, I trust my own notions about the food supply and others

who have been involved a lifetime in this study. There is a 100%

concurrence that we'd rather live w/ microorganisms that eat anything

irradiated.

>

> Dr. Goebel

>

> ed4soup <ed4636 wrote:

> David, in Europe, irradiated food has been

accepted, without reported

> negative consequence for at least 15 years. What I've seen says it

> kills active, live, bacteria in the food only when it is radiated and

> packaged. Once irridated, the radiation does not remain in the food.

> The bacteria free food later does not kill the natural bacteria we

> need within our digestive system. That was a fear over a decade ago,

> but has been proven to be unfounded. You can search " food irradiation

> europe " for many articles going way back. There was a recent special

> on the History Channel on this also. With the spread of disease from

> imported fruit and vegetables from countries to the south which use

> human waste in their fields and is handled by poor folks with diseases

> like cholera and TB, it makes sense. The chlorine, floride, and lead

> in our water supplies is much more harmful than irradiation could

> ever be. Question, what molecules are changed in the food when

> irradiated, and how does that change the nutritional value of the

> food? Any published studies on that topic?

>

> oleander soup , ahzoov@ wrote:

> >

> > ,

> > Your gov't wants to irradiate all our food. They say it will insure

> against

> > e-coli. However, irradiation changes the molecular structure of the

> food, and

> > it kills good bacteria our bodies need. The REAL reason they

want to

> > irradiate our food is to find something to do with the waste from

> nuclear energy

> > plants. Something profitable. Another decision that helps

> corporations while

> > injuring the population.

> > YOUR COMMENTS ARE NEEDED NOW. TOMORROW THEY CUT OFF THE COMMENT

> PERIOD

> > HOW TO SUBMIT:

> > Go to _www.regulations.gov_ (http://www.regulations.gov/) . In the

> middle of

> > the screen, you will see “Search Documents.â€

> >

> > In Step 1, choose “Documents with an open comments periodâ€

> > In Step 2, choose “Department of Agricultureâ€

> > In Step 3, choose “PROPOSED RULESâ€

> > In Step 4, choose “Docket ID†and then type in

> “AMS-FV-07-0090â€

> >

> > Hit “Submit.â€

> > Next, you will see a column titled “Comments, add/due by.â€

> Click on the

> > TINY TAN DIALOGUE ICON (top left part of the page), and you are

> now ready to

> > submit your information and your comment.

> > Next: Write your people in congress and scream!

> > _http://www.webslingerz.com/jhoffman/congress-email.html_

> > (http://www.webslingerz.com/jhoffman/congress-email.html)

> >

> >

> >

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If section number two were honest, it would also include warnings

about the effects of radiation producing potentially harmful changes,

including mutagens, as outlined in all the articles and studies posted

here in response to this issue.

 

If that happened you might be able to pick up some stock options on

those macbines at a good price.

 

If it doesn't happen, I will be one of the ones shouting from the

rooftops about all the dangers.

 

: ^ )

 

Me, I would be looking for a way to ban all the machines that nuke

 

 

oleander soup , " ed4soup " <ed4636 wrote:

>

> I forsee two sections in the grocery store:

>

> Section 1: Food with all the natural and man induced bacteria, with

> warnings about possible illness including a long list of possible

> disease which cannot be washed off during processing.

>

> Section 2: Food that has been nuked, with warnings about how the

> nutritional value(unproven) may not be as good as food in section #1,

> but with a guarantee it will last unopened for at least six months

> after purchase, including milk, eggs, meat, and cheese, and is disease

> free.

>

> I'm looking for a way to invest in companies that make the nuke

> machines. Ed

>

>

>

> oleander soup , Michael Goebel <goebelchx@> wrote:

> >

> > I will remain a purist on this issue. Though

> I do not have the means in front of me to reference the exact issue in

> the Townsend Letter, an issue about 12 years ago gave the actual

> number of free radicals generated in irradiated food. I feel safer

> standing in front of an x-ray machine.

> >

> > I want my spinach raw. I want my almonds raw, not " homogenized " ! I

> care not a hair what Europe accepts; a continent that has been going

> Godless, sterile, and into more and more sexual perversion and

> societal deviancy for 40 years is not my guiding light of wisdom.

> >

> > Much rather I take my chances with microorganisms than more

> governmental control to denature my food. Leave my food alone! Get

> your jeans and your genes out of my food. Ed, I trust you more in

> that than any other lawyer. However as a student of human nutrition

> for 31 years, I trust my own notions about the food supply and others

> who have been involved a lifetime in this study. There is a 100%

> concurrence that we'd rather live w/ microorganisms that eat anything

> irradiated.

> >

> > Dr. Goebel

> >

> > ed4soup <ed4636@> wrote:

> > David, in Europe, irradiated food has been

> accepted, without reported

> > negative consequence for at least 15 years. What I've seen says it

> > kills active, live, bacteria in the food only when it is radiated and

> > packaged. Once irridated, the radiation does not remain in the food.

> > The bacteria free food later does not kill the natural bacteria we

> > need within our digestive system. That was a fear over a decade

ago,

> > but has been proven to be unfounded. You can search " food irradiation

> > europe " for many articles going way back. There was a recent special

> > on the History Channel on this also. With the spread of disease from

> > imported fruit and vegetables from countries to the south which use

> > human waste in their fields and is handled by poor folks with

diseases

> > like cholera and TB, it makes sense. The chlorine, floride, and lead

> > in our water supplies is much more harmful than irradiation could

> > ever be. Question, what molecules are changed in the food when

> > irradiated, and how does that change the nutritional value of the

> > food? Any published studies on that topic?

> >

> > oleander soup , ahzoov@ wrote:

> > >

> > > ,

> > > Your gov't wants to irradiate all our food. They say it will

insure

> > against

> > > e-coli. However, irradiation changes the molecular structure

of the

> > food, and

> > > it kills good bacteria our bodies need. The REAL reason they

> want to

> > > irradiate our food is to find something to do with the waste from

> > nuclear energy

> > > plants. Something profitable. Another decision that helps

> > corporations while

> > > injuring the population.

> > > YOUR COMMENTS ARE NEEDED NOW. TOMORROW THEY CUT OFF THE COMMENT

> > PERIOD

> > > HOW TO SUBMIT:

> > > Go to _www.regulations.gov_ (http://www.regulations.gov/) . In the

> > middle of

> > > the screen, you will see “Search Documents.â€

> > >

> > > In Step 1, choose “Documents with an open comments periodâ€

> > > In Step 2, choose “Department of Agricultureâ€

> > > In Step 3, choose “PROPOSED RULESâ€

> > > In Step 4, choose “Docket ID†and then type in

> > “AMS-FV-07-0090â€

> > >

> > > Hit “Submit.â€

> > > Next, you will see a column titled “Comments, add/due by.â€

> > Click on the

> > > TINY TAN DIALOGUE ICON (top left part of the page), and you are

> > now ready to

> > > submit your information and your comment.

> > > Next: Write your people in congress and scream!

> > > _http://www.webslingerz.com/jhoffman/congress-email.html_

> > > (http://www.webslingerz.com/jhoffman/congress-email.html)

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> > hottest

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Although the debate on irradiating food is valuable and informative, if anyone actually reads the docket in question (just google the number) you can see it actually has nothing to do with irradiating veggies, but is directed, among other things, at sterilizing the soil where it's grown. In effect doing away with small farming enterprises and particularly damaging organic farming. Tony wrote: If section number two were honest, it would also include warnings about the effects of radiation producing potentially harmful changes,

including mutagens, as outlined in all the articles and studies posted here in response to this issue. If that happened you might be able to pick up some stock options on those macbines at a good price. If it doesn't happen, I will be one of the ones shouting from the rooftops about all the dangers. : ^ ) Me, I would be looking for a way to ban all the machines that nuke oleander soup , "ed4soup" <ed4636 wrote: > > I forsee two sections in the grocery store: > > Section 1: Food with all the natural and man induced bacteria, with > warnings about possible illness including a long list of possible > disease which cannot be washed off during processing. > > Section 2: Food that has been nuked, with warnings about how the > nutritional value(unproven) may not be

as good as food in section #1, > but with a guarantee it will last unopened for at least six months > after purchase, including milk, eggs, meat, and cheese, and is disease > free. > > I'm looking for a way to invest in companies that make the nuke > machines. Ed > > > > oleander soup , Michael Goebel <goebelchx@> wrote: > > > > I will remain a purist on this issue. Though > I do not have the means in front of me to reference the exact issue in > the Townsend Letter, an issue about 12 years ago gave the actual > number of free radicals generated in irradiated food. I feel safer > standing in front of an x-ray machine. > > > > I want my spinach raw. I want my almonds raw, not "homogenized"! I > care

not a hair what Europe accepts; a continent that has been going > Godless, sterile, and into more and more sexual perversion and > societal deviancy for 40 years is not my guiding light of wisdom. > > > > Much rather I take my chances with microorganisms than more > governmental control to denature my food. Leave my food alone! Get > your jeans and your genes out of my food. Ed, I trust you more in > that than any other lawyer. However as a student of human nutrition > for 31 years, I trust my own notions about the food supply and others > who have been involved a lifetime in this study. There is a 100% > concurrence that we'd rather live w/ microorganisms that eat anything > irradiated. > > > > Dr. Goebel > > > > ed4soup <ed4636@> wrote: > > David, in Europe, irradiated food has been >

accepted, without reported > > negative consequence for at least 15 years. What I've seen says it > > kills active, live, bacteria in the food only when it is radiated and > > packaged. Once irridated, the radiation does not remain in the food. > > The bacteria free food later does not kill the natural bacteria we > > need within our digestive system. That was a fear over a decade ago, > > but has been proven to be unfounded. You can search "food irradiation > > europe" for many articles going way back. There was a recent special > > on the History Channel on this also. With the spread of disease from > > imported fruit and vegetables from countries to the south which use > > human waste in their fields and is handled by poor folks with diseases > > like cholera and TB, it makes sense. The chlorine, floride, and lead > > in our

water supplies is much more harmful than irradiation could > > ever be. Question, what molecules are changed in the food when > > irradiated, and how does that change the nutritional value of the > > food? Any published studies on that topic? > > > > oleander soup , ahzoov@ wrote: > > > > > > , > > > Your gov't wants to irradiate all our food. They say it will insure > > against > > > e-coli. However, irradiation changes the molecular structure of the > > food, and > > > it kills good bacteria our bodies need. The REAL reason they > want to > > > irradiate our food is to find something to do with the waste from > > nuclear energy > > > plants. Something profitable. Another

decision that helps > > corporations while > > > injuring the population. > > > YOUR COMMENTS ARE NEEDED NOW. TOMORROW THEY CUT OFF THE COMMENT > > PERIOD > > > HOW TO SUBMIT: > > > Go to _www.regulations.gov_ (http://www.regulations.gov/) . In the > > middle of > > > the screen, you will see “Search Documents.†> > > > > > In Step 1, choose “Documents with an open comments period†> > > In Step 2, choose “Department of Agriculture†> > > In Step 3, choose “PROPOSED RULES†> > > In Step 4, choose “Docket ID†and then type in > > “AMS-FV-07-0090†> > > > > > Hit “Submit.†> > > Next, you will see a column titled “Comments, add/due by.†> > Click on the > > > TINY TAN DIALOGUE ICON (top left part of the page), and you are > > now ready to > > > submit your information and your comment. > > > Next: Write your people in congress and scream! > > > _http://www.webslingerz.com/jhoffman/congress-email.html_ > > > (http://www.webslingerz.com/jhoffman/congress-email.html) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's > > hottest > > > products. > > > > > > (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with > Search. > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with > Search. > > >

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We need to sterilize the bureaucrats and any congressmen who side with them on this issue.Dr. GoebelJoEllen Wheelock <trianadiez wrote: Although the debate on irradiating food is valuable and informative, if anyone actually reads the docket in question (just google the number) you can see it actually has nothing to do with irradiating veggies, but is directed, among other things, at sterilizing the soil where it's grown. In effect doing away with small farming enterprises and particularly damaging organic farming. > wrote: If section number two were honest, it would also include warnings about the effects of radiation producing potentially harmful changes, including mutagens, as outlined in all the articles and studies posted here in response to this issue. If that happened you might be able to pick up some stock options on those macbines at a good price. If it doesn't happen, I will be one of the ones shouting from the rooftops about all the dangers. : ^ ) Me, I would be looking for a way to ban all the machines that nuke oleander soup , "ed4soup" <ed4636 wrote: > > I forsee two sections in the grocery store: > > Section 1:

Food with all the natural and man induced bacteria, with > warnings about possible illness including a long list of possible > disease which cannot be washed off during processing. > > Section 2: Food that has been nuked, with warnings about how the > nutritional value(unproven) may not be as good as food in section #1, > but with a guarantee it will last unopened for at least six months > after purchase, including milk, eggs, meat, and cheese, and is disease > free. > > I'm looking for a way to invest in companies that make the nuke > machines. Ed > > > > oleander soup , Michael Goebel <goebelchx@> wrote: > > > > I will remain a purist on this issue. Though > I do not have the means in front of me to reference the

exact issue in > the Townsend Letter, an issue about 12 years ago gave the actual > number of free radicals generated in irradiated food. I feel safer > standing in front of an x-ray machine. > > > > I want my spinach raw. I want my almonds raw, not "homogenized"! I > care not a hair what Europe accepts; a continent that has been going > Godless, sterile, and into more and more sexual perversion and > societal deviancy for 40 years is not my guiding light of wisdom. > > > > Much rather I take my chances with microorganisms than more > governmental control to denature my food. Leave my food alone! Get > your jeans and your genes out of my food. Ed, I trust you more in > that than any other lawyer. However as a student of human nutrition > for 31 years, I trust my own notions about the food supply and others > who have been involved a

lifetime in this study. There is a 100% > concurrence that we'd rather live w/ microorganisms that eat anything > irradiated. > > > > Dr. Goebel > > > > ed4soup <ed4636@> wrote: > > David, in Europe, irradiated food has been > accepted, without reported > > negative consequence for at least 15 years. What I've seen says it > > kills active, live, bacteria in the food only when it is radiated and > > packaged. Once irridated, the radiation does not remain in the food. > > The bacteria free food later does not kill the natural bacteria we > > need within our digestive system. That was a fear over a decade ago, > > but has been proven to be unfounded. You can search "food irradiation > > europe" for many articles going way back. There was a recent special > > on the History

Channel on this also. With the spread of disease from > > imported fruit and vegetables from countries to the south which use > > human waste in their fields and is handled by poor folks with diseases > > like cholera and TB, it makes sense. The chlorine, floride, and lead > > in our water supplies is much more harmful than irradiation could > > ever be. Question, what molecules are changed in the food when > > irradiated, and how does that change the nutritional value of the > > food? Any published studies on that topic? > > > > oleander soup , ahzoov@ wrote: > > > > > > , > > > Your gov't wants to irradiate all our food. They say it will insure > > against > > > e-coli. However, irradiation changes the

molecular structure of the > > food, and > > > it kills good bacteria our bodies need. The REAL reason they > want to > > > irradiate our food is to find something to do with the waste from > > nuclear energy > > > plants. Something profitable. Another decision that helps > > corporations while > > > injuring the population. > > > YOUR COMMENTS ARE NEEDED NOW. TOMORROW THEY CUT OFF THE COMMENT > > PERIOD > > > HOW TO SUBMIT: > > > Go to _www.regulations.gov_ (http://www.regulations.gov/) . In the > > middle of > > > the screen, you will see “Search Documents.†> > > > > > In Step 1, choose “Documents with an open comments period†> > > In Step 2, choose “Department of

Agriculture†> > > In Step 3, choose “PROPOSED RULES†> > > In Step 4, choose “Docket ID†and then type in > > “AMS-FV-07-0090†> > > > > > Hit “Submit.†> > > Next, you will see a column titled “Comments, add/due by.†> > Click on the > > > TINY TAN DIALOGUE ICON (top left part of the page), and you are > > now ready to > > > submit your information and your comment. > > > Next: Write your people in congress and scream! > > > _http://www.webslingerz.com/jhoffman/congress-email.html_ > > > (http://www.webslingerz.com/jhoffman/congress-email.html) > > > > > > >

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