Guest guest Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 This may have been covered before, but please answer me again as i am new here. My question is: Would anyone comment on the usage of Sutherlandia OPC as PREVENTIVE? If so, what should be the DOSAGE? Thanks, Kris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 Oleander glycosides do not kill the cancer. They enable the immune system to find cancers (and other things not meant to be in the body), and then the immune system does the exterminating.Dr. GoebelKris *ii7y <Krisof+ wrote: This may have been covered before, but please answer me again as i am new here. My question is: Would anyone comment on the usage of Sutherlandia OPC as PREVENTIVE? If so, what should be the DOSAGE? Thanks, Kris Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 Very true, Doctor G. However, oleander contains a lot more than just glycosides and I would not rule out a bit of cancer zapping ability outside the enhancement of the immune system. Take a look at just a small list of the known compounds in oleander: Adynerin, Alpha-amyrin, Beta-sitosterol, Betulin, Foliandrin, Folinerin, Gitoxigenin, Isoquercitrin, Lauric-acid, Linoleic-acid, Neriin, Oleandrin, Oleandrigenin, Oleanolic-acid, Oleic-acid, Quercetin, Rutin, Stigmasterol, Ursolic-acid, Uzarigenin. Potent immune boosting and/or anti-tumor compounds each and every one! As a preventive, I take a few doses a week, but cancer prevention should incorporate a lot more than any one single item and so the rest of the items on the anti-cancer protocol available here in the file section should also be followed, especially proper diet, lifestyle, healthy sunshine, clean air, good healthy water (you have something that can help there, I believe), a bit of exercise, stress removal, etc. Just to be sure, every few months or so I will go several weeks at full oleander dose and do the same every few months with a container of inositol/IP6 powder (the Cell Forte from Utopia Silver) which DOES zap tumors. As you know, it can take up to eight years for some cancers to develop to pinhead size once they have gotten past the immune system and gained a foothold. My theory is to use periods of strong measures to zap the little devils before they have a chance to get going. oleander soup , Michael Goebel <goebelchx wrote: > > Oleander glycosides do not kill the cancer. They enable the immune system to find cancers (and other things not meant to be in the body), and then the immune system does the exterminating. > > Dr. Goebel > > Kris *ii7y <Krisof+ wrote: This may have been covered before, but please answer me again as i am > new here. My question is: Would anyone comment on the usage of > Sutherlandia OPC as PREVENTIVE? If so, what should be the DOSAGE? > > Thanks, Kris > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 Hi, Tony, I am a new member. Oleander is a new discovery for me. I do not have cancer as far as I know but have been suffering chronic soreness deep bone pain(whole body) for many years. Have tried low dose naltrexone for two months with no help. So I am starting to research internet and came up Oleander. Somehow I read American Cancer Society warning about Oleander. Wonder if it is warrant to give a try. According to ACS it proves no benefit but may be dangerious. I am not trying to be negative but need to proceed with caution. *************************** The oleander plant is poisonous, and many people have died from eating parts of the plant or drinking tea made from it. Death has resulted from heart failure or respiratory paralysis. Some of the symptoms and signs of oleander toxicity are nausea, vomiting, colic, appetite loss, dizziness, drowsiness, high potassium levels, heart block, dilated pupils, bloody diarrhea, seizures, loss of consciousness, and slow or irregular pulse. There have been reports of death occurring after oral and/or rectal administration of the extract from the plant. The FDA has received reports of at least 2 deaths linked to the use of Anvirzel before the filing of the Investigational New Drug application. Skin irritation from contact with oleander has occurred and allergies are possible. There has been one report observing that, when oleander was taken by a pregnant woman 12 hours before delivery, her baby was affected with seizures and a slowed heart rate. No other cause for the seizures and low heart rate was found. This herb should be avoided, especially by children and women who are pregnant or breast-feeding. Tony wrote: Very true, Doctor G. However, oleander contains a lot more than justglycosides and I would not rule out a bit of cancer zapping abilityoutside the enhancement of the immune system. Take a look at just asmall list of the known compounds in oleander:Adynerin, Alpha-amyrin, Beta-sitosterol, Betulin, Foliandrin,Folinerin, Gitoxigenin, Isoquercitrin, Lauric-acid, Linoleic-acid,Neriin, Oleandrin, Oleandrigenin, Oleanolic-acid, Oleic-acid,Quercetin, Rutin, Stigmasterol, Ursolic-acid, Uzarigenin.Potent immune boosting and/or anti-tumor compounds each and every one!As a preventive, I take a few doses a week, but cancer preventionshould incorporate a lot more than any one single item and so the restof the items on the anti-cancer protocol available here in the filesection should also be followed, especially proper diet, lifestyle,healthy sunshine, clean air, good healthy water (you have somethingthat can help there, I believe), a bit of exercise, stress removal, etc.Just to be sure, every few months or so I will go several weeks atfull oleander dose and do the same every few months with a containerof inositol/IP6 powder (the Cell Forte from Utopia Silver) which DOESzap tumors. As you know, it can take up to eight years for somecancers to develop to pinhead size once they have gotten past theimmune system and gained a foothold. My theory is to use periods ofstrong measures to zap the little devils before they have a chance toget going.Tony--- In oleander soup , Michael Goebel <goebelchx wrote:>> Oleander glycosides do not kill the cancer. They enable the immunesystem to find cancers (and other things not meant to be in the body),and then the immune system does the exterminating.> > Dr. Goebel> > Kris *ii7y <Krisof+ wrote: This mayhave been covered before, but please answer me again as i am> new here. My question is: Would anyone comment on the usage of> Sutherlandia OPC as PREVENTIVE? If so, what should be the DOSAGE?> > Thanks, Kris> > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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