Guest guest Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 That's it, Mary - we are all pissed off royally at you! LOLOLOLOL. Silly gal! No, I think sometimes things just slip through when so many posts are coming along - and perhaps no one had much of an idea how to help you. OK, listen up girl: Temporal Arteritis Confusion surrounds the terminology used to classify this vasculitis. Temporal arteritis is a commonly used term, as inflammation often strikes the temporal artery, causing temporal-located headaches. In addition, findings from biopsy of the superficial temporal artery assist in establishing the diagnosis. Giant cell arteritis, an alternative name for this disorder, describes the pathologic appearance of affected vessels infiltrated by lymphocytes, plasma cells, and multinucleated giant cells. Patchy or segmental changes overcome medium and large arteries of the head and neck and may extend into the carotids and aorta. Visual impairment results from inflammation of branches of the ophthalmic artery, particularly the posterior ciliary artery, leading to ischemic optic neuritis. Additionally, the central retinal artery is affected, and almost one half of cases involve loss of eyesight. I am going to recommend four things: First of all, get PLENTY of vitamin C. Vitamin C is essential to artery and other blood vessel health and keeps the arteries smooth, elastic and free of lesions. Vitamin C helps prevent and lessen arterial plaque, for example. Arterial plaque is actually the body's attempt to patch lesions in the arterial walls with cholesterol, and points to one reason that cholesterol lowering drugs are often so harmful. Secondly, get yourself some pycnogenol. It is the number one herbal item used against diabetes in Europe and one of the things it does is prevent macular degeneration in the eyes - something that often happens with temporal arthritis. Third, take a look at my extensive entry for Heart Disease in my online remedies on my website: The remedies link is /remedies.htm and the link to heart disease is /Heart_Disease.htm And finally, be SURE to get yourself a copy of Dr. Matthias Rath's wonderful book " Why Animals Don't Get Heart Attacks But People Do " . Besides being one of the leaders in the fight for health freedom and the head of the Dr. Rath Foundation, Dr. Rath is an internationally respected cardiovascular researcher who worked closely with the late two-time Nobel Laureate Linus Pauling, Ph.D. Dr. Rath was appointed by Pauling as the first director of cardiovascular research at the Linus Pauling Institute, formerly located in California. The author of four bestselling health books, Dr. Rath developed the scientific concept of Cellular Medicine, which defines the deficiency of nutrients at the cellular level as a root cause of chronic diseases. His research has been published in numerous scientific journals, including the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, the Journal of Orthomolecular Medicine and the Journal of Applied Nutrition. I think his approach to cellular health is excellent and his program should be a good one for you. BTW, the answer to the title of the book is that with very few exceptions of all the animals, man alone does not produce his own vitamin C. Which explains why bears have average cholesterol levels of 400 milligrams per deciliter of blood, but they don't suffer heart attacks. Live long, live well, live happy! And stop pissing us off! (Hugs!) oleander soup , " Maria Stathopoulos " <mary1kon wrote: > > OK Group whats wrong with me? i ask all of you if you know enything about ( temporal artiritis ) and if natural suplements, or herbs like oleander will help and all of you ignore me, have i done something to pissed you off or what? > hugs Mary > - > > oleander soup > Saturday, May 31, 2008 2:18 AM > Re: Pancreatic cancer study - here is a link > > > Thanks for the heads up. I think Pub Med changed their indexing. At > any rate, I have updated my page with a link to the study (which I > uploaded to my site). > > This should work: > > /Autophagic_Cell_Death.pdf > > > > oleander soup , " anjuvick " <andre@> wrote: > > > > Thanks . I am able to open this website. What I can't open > > is the link on the website which would give me the study itself. Is > > there another link? I remember that Tony had sent it out when it > > first came out, and I thought that I had saved it, but apparently > > did not. > > > > Thanks again, > > > > Andre > > > > > > > > oleander soup , " May " <luellamay129@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Andre, > > > > > > Here it is. > > > > > > Oleander Induces Autophagy - Exclusive Story > > > </autophagy.htm> > > > > > > Hugs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oleander soup , " anjuvick " <andre@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Tony, > > > > > > > > I am not able to open the link which you give for the study on > > > > /autophagy.htm. Is there another link that I > > can > > > > use to access the study? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Andre > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 Well Tony it pays to pissed you off does'n it? thank you very-very much and sorry iwas a little grumpy, but iam old i have no time to wait around, LOL LOL !!!!! i will get this email to my friend strait way, thank you again. Hugs Mary - Tony oleander soup Saturday, May 31, 2008 12:45 PM Temoral Arteritis and Why Bears Do Not Suffer Heart Attacks That's it, Mary - we are all pissed off royally at you! LOLOLOLOL. Silly gal! No, I think sometimes things just slip through when so manyposts are coming along - and perhaps no one had much of an idea how tohelp you.OK, listen up girl:Temporal ArteritisConfusion surrounds the terminology used to classify this vasculitis.Temporal arteritis is a commonly used term, as inflammation oftenstrikes the temporal artery, causing temporal-located headaches. Inaddition, findings from biopsy of the superficial temporal arteryassist in establishing the diagnosis. Giant cell arteritis, an alternative name for this disorder, describesthe pathologic appearance of affected vessels infiltrated bylymphocytes, plasma cells, and multinucleated giant cells. Patchy orsegmental changes overcome medium and large arteries of the head andneck and may extend into the carotids and aorta.Visual impairment results from inflammation of branches of theophthalmic artery, particularly the posterior ciliary artery, leadingto ischemic optic neuritis. Additionally, the central retinal arteryis affected, and almost one half of cases involve loss of eyesight.I am going to recommend four things:First of all, get PLENTY of vitamin C. Vitamin C is essential toartery and other blood vessel health and keeps the arteries smooth,elastic and free of lesions. Vitamin C helps prevent and lessenarterial plaque, for example. Arterial plaque is actually the body'sattempt to patch lesions in the arterial walls with cholesterol, andpoints to one reason that cholesterol lowering drugs are often so harmful.Secondly, get yourself some pycnogenol. It is the number one herbalitem used against diabetes in Europe and one of the things it does isprevent macular degeneration in the eyes - something that oftenhappens with temporal arthritis.Third, take a look at my extensive entry for Heart Disease in myonline remedies on my website:The remedies link is /remedies.htmand the link to heart disease is /Heart_Disease.htmAnd finally, be SURE to get yourself a copy of Dr. Matthias Rath'swonderful book "Why Animals Don't Get Heart Attacks But People Do".Besides being one of the leaders in the fight for health freedom andthe head of the Dr. Rath Foundation, Dr. Rath is an internationallyrespected cardiovascular researcher who worked closely with the latetwo-time Nobel Laureate Linus Pauling, Ph.D. Dr. Rath was appointed byPauling as the first director of cardiovascular research at the LinusPauling Institute, formerly located in California. The author of four bestselling health books, Dr. Rath developed thescientific concept of Cellular Medicine, which defines the deficiencyof nutrients at the cellular level as a root cause of chronicdiseases. His research has been published in numerous scientificjournals, including the Proceedings of the National Academy ofSciences, the Journal of Orthomolecular Medicine and the Journal ofApplied Nutrition.I think his approach to cellular health is excellent and his programshould be a good one for you. BTW, the answer to the title of thebook is that with very few exceptions of all the animals, man alonedoes not produce his own vitamin C. Which explains why bears haveaverage cholesterol levels of 400 milligrams per deciliter of blood,but they don't suffer heart attacks.Live long, live well, live happy! And stop pissing us off! (Hugs!)Tonyoleander soup , "Maria Stathopoulos"<mary1kon wrote:>> OK Group whats wrong with me? i ask all of you if you know enythingabout ( temporal artiritis ) and if natural suplements, or herbs likeoleander will help and all of you ignore me, have i done something topissed you off or what?> hugs Mary> - > Tony > oleander soup > Saturday, May 31, 2008 2:18 AM> Re: Pancreatic cancer study - here is a link> > > Thanks for the heads up. I think Pub Med changed their indexing. At> any rate, I have updated my page with a link to the study (which I> uploaded to my site).> > This should work:> > /Autophagic_Cell_Death.pdf> > Tony> > oleander soup , "anjuvick" <andre@> wrote:> >> > Thanks . I am able to open this website. What I can't open > > is the link on the website which would give me the study itself. Is > > there another link? I remember that Tony had sent it out when it > > first came out, and I thought that I had saved it, but apparently > > did not.> > > > Thanks again,> > > > Andre> > > > > > > > oleander soup , " May" <luellamay129@> > > wrote:> > >> > > > > > > > > Hi Andre,> > > > > > Here it is.> > > > > > Oleander Induces Autophagy - Exclusive Story> > > </autophagy.htm>> > > > > > Hugs,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oleander soup , "anjuvick" <andre@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Tony,> > > >> > > > I am not able to open the link which you give for the study on> > > > /autophagy.htm. Is there another linkthat I > > can> > > > use to access the study?> > > >> > > > Thanks,> > > >> > > > Andre> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 Tony, I haven't read Dr. Raths book, but I can tell you that horses and dogs do indeed get heart attacks. I have witnessed a few horses and two dogs over the years die from myocardial infarctions. Bob - Maria Stathopoulos oleander soup Friday, May 30, 2008 9:32 PM Re: Temoral Arteritis and Why Bears Do Not Suffer Heart Attacks Well Tony it pays to pissed you off does'n it? thank you very-very much and sorry iwas a little grumpy, but iam old i have no time to wait around, LOL LOL !!!!! i will get this email to my friend strait way, thank you again. Hugs Mary - Tony oleander soup Saturday, May 31, 2008 12:45 PM Temoral Arteritis and Why Bears Do Not Suffer Heart Attacks That's it, Mary - we are all pissed off royally at you! LOLOLOLOL. Silly gal! No, I think sometimes things just slip through when so manyposts are coming along - and perhaps no one had much of an idea how tohelp you.OK, listen up girl:Temporal ArteritisConfusion surrounds the terminology used to classify this vasculitis.Temporal arteritis is a commonly used term, as inflammation oftenstrikes the temporal artery, causing temporal-located headaches. Inaddition, findings from biopsy of the superficial temporal arteryassist in establishing the diagnosis. Giant cell arteritis, an alternative name for this disorder, describesthe pathologic appearance of affected vessels infiltrated bylymphocytes, plasma cells, and multinucleated giant cells. Patchy orsegmental changes overcome medium and large arteries of the head andneck and may extend into the carotids and aorta.Visual impairment results from inflammation of branches of theophthalmic artery, particularly the posterior ciliary artery, leadingto ischemic optic neuritis. Additionally, the central retinal arteryis affected, and almost one half of cases involve loss of eyesight.I am going to recommend four things:First of all, get PLENTY of vitamin C. Vitamin C is essential toartery and other blood vessel health and keeps the arteries smooth,elastic and free of lesions. Vitamin C helps prevent and lessenarterial plaque, for example. Arterial plaque is actually the body'sattempt to patch lesions in the arterial walls with cholesterol, andpoints to one reason that cholesterol lowering drugs are often so harmful.Secondly, get yourself some pycnogenol. It is the number one herbalitem used against diabetes in Europe and one of the things it does isprevent macular degeneration in the eyes - something that oftenhappens with temporal arthritis.Third, take a look at my extensive entry for Heart Disease in myonline remedies on my website:The remedies link is /remedies.htmand the link to heart disease is /Heart_Disease.htmAnd finally, be SURE to get yourself a copy of Dr. Matthias Rath'swonderful book "Why Animals Don't Get Heart Attacks But People Do".Besides being one of the leaders in the fight for health freedom andthe head of the Dr. Rath Foundation, Dr. Rath is an internationallyrespected cardiovascular researcher who worked closely with the latetwo-time Nobel Laureate Linus Pauling, Ph.D. Dr. Rath was appointed byPauling as the first director of cardiovascular research at the LinusPauling Institute, formerly located in California. The author of four bestselling health books, Dr. Rath developed thescientific concept of Cellular Medicine, which defines the deficiencyof nutrients at the cellular level as a root cause of chronicdiseases. His research has been published in numerous scientificjournals, including the Proceedings of the National Academy ofSciences, the Journal of Orthomolecular Medicine and the Journal ofApplied Nutrition.I think his approach to cellular health is excellent and his programshould be a good one for you. BTW, the answer to the title of thebook is that with very few exceptions of all the animals, man alonedoes not produce his own vitamin C. Which explains why bears haveaverage cholesterol levels of 400 milligrams per deciliter of blood,but they don't suffer heart attacks.Live long, live well, live happy! And stop pissing us off! (Hugs!)Tonyoleander soup , "Maria Stathopoulos"<mary1kon wrote:>> OK Group whats wrong with me? i ask all of you if you know enythingabout ( temporal artiritis ) and if natural suplements, or herbs likeoleander will help and all of you ignore me, have i done something topissed you off or what?> hugs Mary> - > Tony > oleander soup > Saturday, May 31, 2008 2:18 AM> Re: Pancreatic cancer study - here is a link> > > Thanks for the heads up. I think Pub Med changed their indexing. At> any rate, I have updated my page with a link to the study (which I> uploaded to my site).> > This should work:> > /Autophagic_Cell_Death.pdf> > Tony> > oleander soup , "anjuvick" <andre@> wrote:> >> > Thanks . I am able to open this website. What I can't open > > is the link on the website which would give me the study itself. Is > > there another link? I remember that Tony had sent it out when it > > first came out, and I thought that I had saved it, but apparently > > did not.> > > > Thanks again,> > > > Andre> > > > > > > > oleander soup , " May" <luellamay129@> > > wrote:> > >> > > > > > > > > Hi Andre,> > > > > > Here it is.> > > > > > Oleander Induces Autophagy - Exclusive Story> > > </autophagy.htm>> > > > > > Hugs,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oleander soup , "anjuvick" <andre@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Tony,> > > >> > > > I am not able to open the link which you give for the study on> > > > /autophagy.htm. Is there another linkthat I > > can> > > > use to access the study?> > > >> > > > Thanks,> > > >> > > > Andre> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 So, Bob, were they vaccinated? Did they eat a species appropriate diet or processed junk food? Don't know enough about horses, but, some people don't feed correctly, right? Very few feed dogs correctly. Imagine feeding carnivores a cooked grain based diet??? YUCK! Vaccines and poor diet, cause chronic disease in animals just like people. Nonie Tony, I haven't read Dr. Raths book, but I can tell you that horses and dogs do indeed get heart attacks. I have witnessed a few horses and two dogs over the years die from myocardial infarctions. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 Tony, as far as Vitamin C goes for plaque problems Dr Pauling recommended the following. I haven't found the exact formula in this interview but I read another place that he recommends 2g C with one 500mg lysine three times a day for cholesterol and other heart related problems. Jack From Linus Pauling -The Last Interview Q Now you are recommending vitamin C and lysine for the treatment of cardiovascular disease.How exactly does lysine help to prevent cardiovascular disease?Many investigators contributed to showing that lipoprotein A is what is deposited in plaques, not just LDL, but lipoprotein A. If you have more than 20mg/dI in your blood it begins depositing plaques and atherosclerosis so the question then is what causes lipoprotein A to stick to the wall of the artery and cause these plaques? Well countless biochemists and other chemists are pretty smart people and they discovered what it is in the wall of the artery that causes lipoprotein A to get stuck to the wall of the artery and form atherosclerotic plaques and ultimately lead to heart disease, strokes and peripheral arterial disease. The answer is there is a particular amino acid in a protein in the wall of the artery - lysine, which is one of the twenty amino acids that binds the lipoprotein A and causes atherosclerotic plaques to develop. I think it is a very important discovery.Well, now, if you know that there are residues of lysine, lysyl residues, that hold the lipoprotein A to the wall of the artery and cause hardening of the arteries, then any chemist, any physical chemist would say at once that the thing to do is to prevent that by puffing the amino acid lysine in the blood to greater extent than is normally. Of course you get lysine normally in your food. Meat in particular contains a good bit of lysine. And you need lysine to be alive, it is an essential amino acid, you have to get about a gram a day to keep in protein balance, but you can take lysine, pure lysine, a perfectly non toxic substance in food, as 500mg tablets and that puts extra lysine molecules in the blood. They enter into competition with the lysyl residues on the wall of artery and accordingly count to prevent the lipoproteinA from being deposited or even will work to pull it loose and destroy the atherosclerotic plaques.Q Do you think the treatment of lysine and vitamin C can reverse the atherosclerotic process?I think so. Yes. Now I've got to the point where I think we can get almost complete control of cardiovascular disease, heart attacks and strokes by the proper use of vitamin C and lysine. It can prevent cardiovascular disease and even cure it. If you are at risk of heart disease, or if there is a history of heart disease in your family, if your father or other members of the family died of a heart attack or stroke or whatever, or if you have a mild heart attack yourself then you had better be taking vitamin. C and lysine.Q How do you decide how much vitamin C Is right for you and, If you take 3 grams should It be split throughout the day?In my opinion adults should be taking at least 2 grams a day. There is much evidence about increased health with 2 grams a day, and of course even more with 4 or 6 grams a day . Even an extra 60mg had been shown to add value in cutting down the death rate from heart disease, cancer and other diseases. Now my feeling is as people grow older they ought to be increasing their vitamin C and perhaps they should follow the policy that I have followed of increasing the intake. It can be either one chunk, one dose in the morning, or even better three doses throughout the day, increasing the intake until a laxative effect is observed, speeding up the rate of elimination of waste material from the bowel. So my suggestion is every person who wants to have the best of health should increase the intake of vitamin C to somewhat less than the amount that causes significant looseness of the bowel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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