Protocel is NOT compatible with oleander! Also, Anvirzel ingredients

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First of all, Maggie, let me state that I DO NOT like the Protocel protocol. Protocel, although reporting good successes, is not compatible with a great many other things and I do not like it's approach to treating cancer - which is to LOWER the body's cellular energy so that the cancer cells do not have the energy to continue growing and multiplying.Protocel is not very forgiving if you miss doses. Just a few missed doses and varying from the protocol may set you back a long way.Most importantly of all - as it states on the Protocel site: PROTOCEL IS NOT AT ALL COMPATIBLE WITH VITAMIN C!!From http://alternativecancer.us/protocel.htm :Vitamins to AvoidDo not take any supplements that contain the vitamins or supplements listed below. Some people say that you can take up to certain levels of these vitamins, but this information is often confused . The developer of Protocel (then called Entelev), James Sheridan knew the danger taking multiple vitamins, people will confuse things such as milligrams (mg) and micrograms (cmg). He is the person who said, do not take any supplements that contain the following vitamins:Vitamin C (taking vitamin C is the number one reason that Protocel fails to work)Vitamin ESeleniumCoEnzyme Q10Sulfhydrazly antioxidants which includes: L-cysteineN-acetylsteineAlpha-lipoic acidGlutathioneCesium Chloride and Potassium may cause a problem, but more study is needed before these are definite substances to avoid. It appears obvious that your mom is already takiing supplements that contraindicate one another.Iscador (mistletoe) has had good results in shrinking and fighting tumors. Like chemo and many other treatments, it is not a cure - merely something that fights the symptoms of cancer and not the causes.Unlike Protocel, oleander is compatible with just about anything else. Unlike Iscador, chemo and many other treatments, oleander both treats the symptoms of cancer and the underlying causes (insofar as a weak immune system is almost always one of the underlying causes). Once cancer has been beaten, continued use of smaller maintenance doses of oleander almost always keeps cancer from ever returning - of course the patient has to help by maintaining a healthy diet and lifestyle and keeping their body and environment free of toxins.Aniverzel contains an aqueous extract of the oleander plant. Thus it contains water and a great many of the compounds in oleander that work together to make it so effective. Among the main cancer fighting and immune boosting compounds in oleander are:the major active cardiac glycoside Oleandrin, a number of other cardiac

glycosides such as Oleandrinogen, Oleandrigenin and others, several

long-chain polysacharrides such as Beta-sistosterol, Quercitin,

Linoleic-acid, Oleic-acid, Adynerin, Alpha-amyrin, Betulin,

Foliandrin, Folinerin, Gitoxigenin, Isoquercitrin, Lauric-acid,

Neriin, Oleanolic-acid, Rutin, Stigmasterol,

Ursolic-acid, Uzarigenin.No

one knows how they work together, but those familiar with cancer and

cancer research will recognize that most of these substances are stated

in the literature to have antitumoral and/or immune stimulant and/or

antiviral and/or antibacterial or other beneficiary activities.The only source for Anvirzel is Nerium Biotechnology in Canada (the Anvirzel itself comes from their facility in Honduras, the Salud Integral Clinic). You can find out more on the website http://www.saludintegral.hnNerium is a new company, an offshoot of Phoenix Biotech and is headed up by previous Phoenix manager, Dennis Knocke (pronounce ka-noak). You can reach him at 210-822-7908. If you should decide to order Anvirzel, be sure to tell him you are a member of our group - you get a 10% discount since they support our group and I have worked together with them in the past to promote and protect oleander extracts.The other forms of oleander available are the Sutherlandia OPC (my choice if money is a consideration) and the home remedy oleander soup (which can be made for only pennies).If it were me, one way or another I would be sure to take oleander as part of my protocol. If that means stopping protocel, so be it - taking it with vitamin Chas not likely been doing much good anyway. And besides, oleander is far better, in my opinion, than Protocel to begin with.Tony.oleander soup , "maggielou97" <maggielou97 wrote:>> Right now my mom is taking a lot of different supplements and stuff > like Protocel and Iscador and Vit C and much more and I just want to > make sure that if she can get Anvirzel anywhere, that the active > ingredients in it are not contraindicated with the host of other > things. She has Stage 3C Ovarian Cancer.> > O, by the way, HI! I am new to this group and finding the discussions > FABULOUS! Thanl you ALL so much for the incredibly helpful info!> > Maggie>

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Tony,

Thanks so much for the input on Procotel. I am so glad to know. I am

telling her to stop the Protocel and tell her all about Sutherlandia

OPC or Anvirzel.

 

What is happening with Anvirzel? My mom's integrative physician kne a

little bit about it, but said it wasn't available yet. Why is it

being held up or is it?

 

You are so informative and such a blessing to so many people!

THANKS!!!!!!!!!

 

Maggie

 

oleander soup , " Tony " wrote:

>

> First of all, Maggie, let me state that I DO NOT like the Protocel

> protocol. Protocel, although reporting good successes, is not

> compatible with a great many other things and I do not like it's

> approach to treating cancer - which is to LOWER the body's cellular

> energy so that the cancer cells do not have the energy to continue

> growing and multiplying.

>

> Protocel is not very forgiving if you miss doses. Just a few missed

> doses and varying from the protocol may set you back a long way.

>

> Most importantly of all - as it states on the Protocel site:

PROTOCEL

> IS NOT AT ALL COMPATIBLE WITH VITAMIN C!!

>

> From http://alternativecancer.us/protocel.htm :

>

> Vitamins to Avoid

>

> Do not take any supplements that contain the vitamins or supplements

> listed below. Some people say that you can take up to certain

levels of

> these vitamins, but this information is often confused . The

developer

> of Protocel (then called Entelev), James Sheridan knew the danger

taking

> multiple vitamins, people will confuse things such as milligrams

(mg)

> and micrograms (cmg). He is the person who said, do not take any

> supplements that contain the following vitamins:

>

> Vitamin C (taking vitamin C is the number one reason that Protocel

fails

> to work)

> Vitamin E

> Selenium

> CoEnzyme Q10

> Sulfhydrazly antioxidants which includes:

>

> L-cysteine

> N-acetylsteine

> Alpha-lipoic acid

> Glutathione

> Cesium Chloride and Potassium may cause a problem, but more study is

> needed before these are definite substances to avoid.

>

> It appears obvious that your mom is already takiing supplements that

> contraindicate one another.

>

> Iscador (mistletoe) has had good results in shrinking and fighting

> tumors. Like chemo and many other treatments, it is not a cure -

merely

> something that fights the symptoms of cancer and not the causes.

>

> Unlike Protocel, oleander is compatible with just about anything

else.

> Unlike Iscador, chemo and many other treatments, oleander both

treats

> the symptoms of cancer and the underlying causes (insofar as a weak

> immune system is almost always one of the underlying causes). Once

> cancer has been beaten, continued use of smaller maintenance doses

of

> oleander almost always keeps cancer from ever returning - of course

the

> patient has to help by maintaining a healthy diet and lifestyle and

> keeping their body and environment free of toxins.

>

> Aniverzel contains an aqueous extract of the oleander plant. Thus

it

> contains water and a great many of the compounds in oleander that

work

> together to make it so effective. Among the main cancer fighting

and

> immune boosting compounds in oleander are:

>

> the major active cardiac glycoside Oleandrin, a number of other

cardiac

> glycosides such as Oleandrinogen, Oleandrigenin and others, several

> long-chain polysacharrides such as Beta-sistosterol, Quercitin,

> Linoleic-acid, Oleic-acid, Adynerin, Alpha-amyrin, Betulin,

Foliandrin,

> Folinerin, Gitoxigenin, Isoquercitrin, Lauric-acid, Neriin,

> Oleanolic-acid, Rutin, Stigmasterol, Ursolic-acid, Uzarigenin.

>

> No one knows how they work together, but those familiar with cancer

and

> cancer research will recognize that most of these substances are

stated

> in the literature to have antitumoral and/or immune stimulant and/or

> antiviral and/or antibacterial or other beneficiary activities.

>

> The only source for Anvirzel is Nerium Biotechnology in Canada (the

> Anvirzel itself comes from their facility in Honduras, the Salud

> Integral Clinic). You can find out more on the website

> http://www.saludintegral.hn

>

> Nerium is a new company, an offshoot of Phoenix Biotech and is

headed up

> by previous Phoenix manager, Dennis Knocke (pronounce ka-noak).

You can

> reach him at 210-822-7908. If you should decide to order Anvirzel,

be

> sure to tell him you are a member of our group - you get a 10%

discount

> since they support our group and I have worked together with them

in the

> past to promote and protect oleander extracts.

>

> The other forms of oleander available are the Sutherlandia OPC (my

> choice if money is a consideration) and the home remedy oleander soup

> (which can be made for only pennies).

>

> If it were me, one way or another I would be sure to take oleander

as

> part of my protocol. If that means stopping protocel, so be it -

taking

> it with vitamin Chas not likely been doing much good anyway. And

> besides, oleander is far better, in my opinion, than Protocel to

begin

> with.

>

> >

>

>

> .

>

>

> oleander soup , " maggielou97 " <maggielou97@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Right now my mom is taking a lot of different supplements and

stuff

> > like Protocel and Iscador and Vit C and much more and I just want

to

> > make sure that if she can get Anvirzel anywhere, that the active

> > ingredients in it are not contraindicated with the host of other

> > things. She has Stage 3C Ovarian Cancer.

> >

> > O, by the way, HI! I am new to this group and finding the

discussions

> > FABULOUS! Thanl you ALL so much for the incredibly helpful info!

> >

> > Maggie

> >

>