Why eating Whole (REAL!) Foods is better than supplements

[Guest guest]

This is very true but......It depends on the soil those foods were grown in. If the soil is depleted of minerals, so will be everything grown in it. Some soils are naturally (as opposed by ruined by improper farming) poor in certain minerals so it needs to be tested in labs to determine what should be added to it. Then, the whole foods are really nutritious and healthful.

 

Barbara

[Guest guest]

Another good argument for growing our own food.....compost rules! lol.

 

Cyndi

 

In a message dated 1/23/2007 10:06:38 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, barbara3 writes:

 

 

 

 

 

This is very true but......It depends on the soil those foods were grown in. If the soil is depleted of minerals, so will be everything grown in it. Some soils are naturally (as opposed by ruined by improper farming) poor in certain minerals so it needs to be tested in labs to determine what should be added to it. Then, the whole foods are really nutritious and healthful.

 

Barbara

 

 

[Guest guest]

I'm always skeptical too, when someone wants to sell me something. I started reading Mercola when I saw good reviews about him on the internet and on other groups. I haven't read thoroughly his theories, I just have passed on the articles that I think have value.

 

I keep saying we need to educate ourselves, and it holds true for Mercola, too. But since I've made the decision to eat Real/Whole foods, I choose THOSE theories to try out in my own life. What makes sense for ME is to eat those foods which are as closely natural and organic as possible. And I believe the best nutrition for me is those vitamins I can get from healthy, natural food.

 

The hardest thing for me has been to get out of the mindset of "giving up things." I don't want to give up anything, only replace unhealthy food with healthy food. I love pasta, so I am trying out things like whole wheat pasta and bread, rice noodles, etc. I do this because I don't want to eat white flour. Just as an example. Would I give up chocolate? Heck no! But I CAN eat organic chocolate, lol.

 

I don't know what is factual truth either. I only know what is common sense to me. That holds true for all of us. If we choose not to eat certain things because we believe they aren't healthy, at least that's a choice for our good health. :-)

 

I think one of the articles I sent from Mercola said the exact same thing, Russ, that lower calories lead to longer life. We have a real problem with portion control in our current world. Also, the peoples of Russia ate naturally fermented foods like Kefir and Yogurt, which Russians have long attributed to a healthier, longer life. Interesting, isn't it?

 

There's a lot of theories out there too that claim that genes, blood type, etc. account for what an ideal diet is. Since I'm a mutt, not a Russian, lol, I can't truly buy into those theories. But I've read many times how these diets work for losing weight. And I DO love Kefir, for the probiotic components. I'd rather eat a natural food product for those probiotics than a pill.

 

But that's just me. Your mileage may vary. ;-)Cyndi

 

In a message dated 1/23/2007 11:37:21 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, chammer writes:

 

 

 

 

Folks, please tell me what you know about Mercola? When it comes to health information, I always question the source since there's so much bad or at least skewed information out there. A red flag is already up when the purveyor of the information has something to gain, in this case book sales. It's so hard to tell what's the factual truth. I have read articles for decades that indicate lower calorie intake has potential to increase life span. But this is not skipping ameal or two, this is talking about REALLY, skinny, gaunt people that are not near starvation, but one would think so from lookingat them. I believe I read an article ages ago on peoples of the steppes of Russia in which average individuals lived extraordinarily long lives, 90s and 100s, and it was opined that the reason was genes, plus their super meager diets.Russ

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Folks, please tell me what you know about Mercola? When it comes to

health information, I always question the source since there's so much

bad or at least skewed information out there. A red flag is already up

when the purveyor of the information has something to gain, in this

case book sales. It's so hard to tell what's the factual truth.

 

I have read articles for decades that indicate lower calorie intake has

potential to increase life span. But this is not skipping a

meal or two, this is talking about REALLY, skinny, gaunt people that

are not near starvation, but one would think so from looking

at them. I believe I read an article ages ago on peoples of the

steppes of Russia in which average individuals lived extraordinarily

long lives, 90s and 100s, and it was opined that the reason was genes,

plus their super meager diets.

 

Russ

[Guest guest]

To kefir and yogurt please add sauerkraut, kvaas, kimchi and kombucha, natural pickles as opposed to pickles made with vinegar, all lactofermented vegetables, in fact. All those foods are health giving, full of beneficial bacteria, enzymes and other nutrients that are not available in just raw veggies.

 

Barbara

 

 

 

 

Also, the peoples of Russia ate naturally fermented foods like Kefir and Yogurt, which Russians have long attributed to a healthier, longer life. Interesting, isn't it?

 

Cyndi

 

[Guest guest]

I just got the book Wild Fermentation, which is a cookbook dedicated to lacto-fermented foods. And I got Nourishing Traditions, too. There IS one commercially available lacto-fermented sauerkraut from Bubbies, that is available in health food stores.

 

Cyndi

 

In a message dated 1/23/2007 3:03:41 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, barbara3 writes:

 

 

To kefir and yogurt please add sauerkraut, kvaas, kimchi and kombucha, natural pickles as opposed to pickles made with vinegar, all lactofermented vegetables, in fact. All those foods are health giving, full of beneficial bacteria, enzymes and other nutrients that are not available in just raw veggies.

 

Barbara

 

 

 

 

Also, the peoples of Russia ate naturally fermented foods like Kefir and Yogurt, which Russians have long attributed to a healthier, longer life. Interesting, isn't it?

 

Cyndi

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Yes, compost DOES rule! I fortify my soil every year with fresh

compost and I always have a bumper crop of healthy, good-looking

vegetables. Last year was an exception to the rule because it was 90

to 100 degrees almost everyday and I could not water enough to keep

up with the heat. (My water bill was $500.00 every 3 months!!!) I

still had a decent crop...just not the usual HUGE crop...

 

--Celia--

 

RealSimple , cyndikrall wrote:

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> Another good argument for growing our own food.....compost rules!

lol.

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> Cyndi

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> In a message dated 1/23/2007 10:06:38 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,

> barbara3 writes:

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> This is very true but......It depends on the soil those foods were

grown in.

> If the soil is depleted of minerals, so will be everything grown

in it.

> Some soils are naturally (as opposed by ruined by improper

farming) poor in

> certain minerals so it needs to be tested in labs to determine

what should be

> added to it. Then, the whole foods are really nutritious and

healthful.

>

> Barbara

>

[Guest guest]

I get NO rain all summer long, so I feel your pain. Last year we set a record for temps over 100. My tomatoes never do well, sadly...

 

Cyndi

 

In a message dated 1/23/2007 4:57:51 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, cbrowne writes:

Yes, compost DOES rule! I fortify my soil every year with fresh compost and I always have a bumper crop of healthy, good-looking vegetables. Last year was an exception to the rule because it was 90 to 100 degrees almost everyday and I could not water enough to keep up with the heat. (My water bill was $500.00 every 3 months!!!) I still had a decent crop...just not the usual HUGE crop...--Celia--RealSimple , cyndikrall wrote:>> > Another good argument for growing our own food.....compost rules! lol.> > Cyndi> > In a message dated 1/23/2007 10:06:38 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > barbara3 writes:

 

 

[Guest guest]

If you want me to post any recipes, let me know. I haven't read it yet, I wanted to read NT first.

 

Speaking of fermented foods, I got a small carton of Greek yogurt at Whole Foods. Boy, is it GOOD! It is sooo thick, more like a yogurt cheese. It is so rich I can only eat one or two spoonfuls a day. Then after I ate it all I read somewhere you're supposed to use it in cooking, or mix it with regular yogurt to thin it down, lol. Oh well! I liked it so much I was fine with eating it "as is" lol.

 

Cyndi

 

In a message dated 1/23/2007 9:31:12 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, barbara3 writes:

 

Wow! You are doing great, Cyndi Better than me. I don't have the 'Wild Fermentation' book.

 

Barbara

 

 

 

 

 

I just got the book Wild Fermentation, which is a cookbook dedicated to lacto-fermented foods. And I got Nourishing Traditions, too. There IS one commercially available lacto-fermented sauerkraut from Bubbies, that is available in health food stores.

 

Cyndi

 

 

[Guest guest]

Wow! You are doing great, Cyndi Better than me. I don't have the 'Wild Fermentation' book.

 

Barbara

 

 

 

 

 

I just got the book Wild Fermentation, which is a cookbook dedicated to lacto-fermented foods. And I got Nourishing Traditions, too. There IS one commercially available lacto-fermented sauerkraut from Bubbies, that is available in health food stores.

 

Cyndi

 

[Guest guest]

Oh, it was waaaaay too good to dilute, lol. It's too bad you don't have a Whole Foods near you. We have to drive down to Sac, but they are going to build one up here this year, yay! It's like a giant playground, an expensive playground, lol, but the selection is phenomenal. I found some Agave juice there too.

 

Cyndi

 

In a message dated 1/24/2007 5:37:17 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, barbara3 writes:

 

 

 

 

 

I don't have Whole Foods store near me, only one in Tampa, I think. I never tasted Greek yougurt, but if it has to be diluted, you can also use raw milk. But I'm like you, I would be eating it right out of the cup... LOL

 

Barbara

 

 

 

 

If you want me to post any recipes, let me know. I haven't read it yet, I wanted to read NT first.

 

Speaking of fermented foods, I got a small carton of Greek yogurt at Whole Foods. Boy, is it GOOD! It is sooo thick, more like a yogurt cheese. It is so rich I can only eat one or two spoonfuls a day. Then after I ate it all I read somewhere you're supposed to use it in cooking, or mix it with regular yogurt to thin it down, lol. Oh well! I liked it so much I was fine with eating it "as is" lol.

 

Cyndi

 

 

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[Guest guest]

I don't have Whole Foods store near me, only one in Tampa, I think. I never tasted Greek yougurt, but if it has to be diluted, you can also use raw milk. But I'm like you, I would be eating it right out of the cup... LOL

 

Barbara

 

 

 

 

If you want me to post any recipes, let me know. I haven't read it yet, I wanted to read NT first.

 

Speaking of fermented foods, I got a small carton of Greek yogurt at Whole Foods. Boy, is it GOOD! It is sooo thick, more like a yogurt cheese. It is so rich I can only eat one or two spoonfuls a day. Then after I ate it all I read somewhere you're supposed to use it in cooking, or mix it with regular yogurt to thin it down, lol. Oh well! I liked it so much I was fine with eating it "as is" lol.

 

Cyndi

 

[Guest guest]

Oh, too bad! I love WHOLE FOODS GROCERY store!!!

 

--Celia--

 

RealSimple , " Barbara " <barbara3 wrote:

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> I don't have Whole Foods store near me, only one in Tampa, I think.

I never tasted Greek yougurt, but if it has to be diluted, you can also

use raw milk. But I'm like you, I would be eating it right out of the

cup... LOL

>

> Barbara

[Guest guest]

YES! I just KNOW I would too! But it is about an hour of drive one way so I can go there but can not be there regularly.

 

Another store that I would LOVE to have is Trader Joe's... but there are none around here ((( Poor me

 

Barbara

 

 

 

Oh, too bad! I love WHOLE FOODS GROCERY store!!!--Celia--

[Guest guest]

I told Celia that I have one about an hour of drive one way.

Hey, having one so close to you will be just great!

 

All I have is just one health food store and that's where I'm shopping all the time. They know me there and not that long ago I asked about Shirataki noodles and they had no idea what I was talking about, but went on the computer and the next week they had them for me Isn't that great? They are keeping those noodles there all the time now. I wanted them because there is only 3 grams of carbs in the serving. Unfortunately, they are made of tofu which is an evil soy so I use them very sparingly

 

Barbara

 

 

 

 

 

Oh, it was waaaaay too good to dilute, lol. It's too bad you don't have a Whole Foods near you. We have to drive down to Sac, but they are going to build one up here this year, yay! It's like a giant playground, an expensive playground, lol, but the selection is phenomenal. I found some Agave juice there too.

 

Cyndi

 

[Guest guest]

I love TJ's too...And it's a lot closer to me than Whole Foods. Our local one is small, but it's still fun. :-)Cyndi

 

In a message dated 1/24/2007 10:27:42 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, barbara3 writes:

 

YES! I just KNOW I would too! But it is about an hour of drive one way so I can go there but can not be there regularly.

 

Another store that I would LOVE to have is Trader Joe's... but there are none around here ((( Poor me

 

Barbara

 

 

 

Oh, too bad! I love WHOLE FOODS GROCERY store!!!--Celia--

 

 

[Guest guest]

I've never heard of them before. I'll look at Whole Foods next time I go. Are they good? Do you use them like spaghetti noodles? How do you eat them?Cyndi

 

In a message dated 1/24/2007 12:09:30 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, barbara3 writes:

 

I told Celia that I have one about an hour of drive one way.

Hey, having one so close to you will be just great!

 

All I have is just one health food store and that's where I'm shopping all the time. They know me there and not that long ago I asked about Shirataki noodles and they had no idea what I was talking about, but went on the computer and the next week they had them for me Isn't that great? They are keeping those noodles there all the time now. I wanted them because there is only 3 grams of carbs in the serving. Unfortunately, they are made of tofu which is an evil soy so I use them very sparingly

 

Barbara

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

OK, after I sent my message, I googled. The closest Whole Foods is 70 miles south of me in Sarasota. And there are no TJ's in Florida at all....

 

Barbara

 

 

 

 

I love TJ's too...And it's a lot closer to me than Whole Foods. Our local one is small, but it's still fun. :-)Cyndi

 

[Guest guest]

There is instruction on the bag how to cook them. You can use them like any other noodles or spaghetti. They are even longer that spaghetti. You will find them in the fridge section, they are packed in water.

 

I use them in my favorite breakfast dish. Here goes another recipe. I fry them in lots of butter first, to make them hot. I use cayenne pepper and Indian curry and sea salt to taste. I like them spicy. Then I break two eggs into them and fry the whole thing but not too long so the eggs are not too dry. Delicious )))

 

You can also use them like regular spaghetti with meat balls. Or as a bed with meat with gravy over them.

 

They would also be good as linguini, with just butter and salt.

Just use them as regular, normal pasta. Bon appetite... LOL

 

Barbara

 

 

 

 

 

I've never heard of them before. I'll look at Whole Foods next time I go. Are they good? Do you use them like spaghetti noodles? How do you eat them?Cyndi

 

[Guest guest]

Don't feel badly Barbara.....the closest of either for me is Philly and

that's a 2-2.5hr. drive(4-5 hr. round trip)on a good day, Not during rush

hour.

If I can ever get DH to take me down there for the only chinese restaurant

that serves my most fav. soup, maybe I can sneak in a trip to the market

too....but I ain't holdin' my breath!lol

Sluggy

 

OK, after I sent my message, I googled. The closest Whole Foods is 70 miles

south of me in Sarasota. And there are no TJ's in Florida at all....

 

Barbara

 

I love TJ's too...And it's a lot closer to me than Whole Foods. Our local

one is small, but it's still fun. :-)

 

Cyndi

[Guest guest]

I can't help it, I feel bad for myself and for you too.... Those stores should be everywhere!

 

Barbara

 

 

Don't feel badly Barbara.....the closest of either for me is Philly and that's a 2-2.5hr. drive(4-5 hr. round trip)on a good day, Not during rush hour.If I can ever get DH to take me down there for the only chinese restaurant that serves my most fav. soup, maybe I can sneak in a trip to the market too....but I ain't holdin' my breath!lolSluggy

[Guest guest]

We don't have Trader Joe's or Whole Foods (((Ellen LaFleche-Christian Lilac Hill Homestead / Vermont http://tinyurl.com/lpfaf

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[Guest guest]

Instead of Whole Foods we have Wild Oats chain of natural foods and this one is in Tampa. The prices are high, just like at WF.

I've never been there but am planning on going one of these days.

 

Do you know about those stores, Ellen? Do you have one?

 

Barbara

 

 

 

We don't have Trader Joe's or Whole Foods (((

Ellen LaFleche-Christian

Lilac Hill Homestead / Vermont

http://tinyurl.com/lpfaf

[Guest guest]

No we don't have Wild Oats either I belong to an organic/natural food coop & we have a small private health food store in the city about 20 minutes away.Ellen LaFleche-Christian Lilac Hill Homestead / Vermont http://tinyurl.com/lpfaf

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[Guest guest]

You know, righ after I sent my message I went to Wild Oats for the first time! It wa s 45 minutes drive.

 

That store is huge! And it is wonderful! And there is everything you need as far as the food and supplements go. Wow! That was

an experience! Pricey but not exorbitant.

Needles to say I love the store... LOL Too bad it is so far.

 

Barbara

 

 

 

 

No we don't have Wild Oats either

 

I belong to an organic/natural food coop & we have a small private health food store in the city about 20 minutes away.

Ellen LaFleche-Christian

Lilac Hill Homestead / Vermont

http://tinyurl.com/lpfaf