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I also wanted to mention that Cod Liver Oil is one of the best sources for Vitamin A. I have the orange flavored one from Nordic Naturals. I mix a spoonful into kefir, fruit juice, or just some warm water. It is particularly beneficial when taken at the same time as EV coconut oil. I"ll write more on this later for the benefit of anyone who hasn't read Eat Fat, Lose Fat?

 

Has anyone read Eat Fat, Lose Fat? This book is great! It does emphasize a lot of coconut oil recipes, but it is also a great resource of nutritional information.

 

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Hi Angela;

 

Welcome to the list! I think most of us are in some point of transition to a healthy diet. I do drink raw milk. I freeze one gallon when I get home from the store, and then take it out again a couple days later. It takes about a week to thaw fully.

 

Do you drink kefir? I take two teaspoons of freshly strained kefir and add it to one gallon of raw milk. The cultures will keep the milk fresh, and noone will be able to taste it. It won't turn the milk into kefir, but the cultures will slow down the souring process and keep the milk fresh. If you consume one gallon in less than a week, you'll never be able to taste it. If one gallon lasts longer than a week, you might notice a slight flavor to the milk, but it is not unpleasant and does not bother me in the least.

 

Hope this helps. What state do you live in?Cyndi

 

In a message dated 3/20/2007 11:44:25 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, charmcitymama writes:

We've just started to try to incorporate Fallon's NourishingTraditions into our diet. We got rid of all our processed oils & nowonly buy our meat & dairy from an Amish farmer that is organic,pasture-fed & raw. Do you all use raw dairy & if so, what do you dowith your soured milk & how long does it last? We can only pick upevery two weeks, so the milk does not stay fresh.Angela

 

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I think that this book is so great that I will not hesitate to say that if you can only read one book make it "Eat Fat, Lose Fat". This book gives you the fundamental, everyday knowledge of good nutrition and will make you understand why. This book will erase your fears of animal fats that you have drummed into for decades. What a shame and to what a damage to people's health!

 

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I also wanted to mention that Cod Liver Oil is one of the best sources for Vitamin A. I have the orange flavored one from Nordic Naturals. I mix a spoonful into kefir, fruit juice, or just some warm water. It is particularly beneficial when taken at the same time as EV coconut oil. I"ll write more on this later for the benefit of anyone who hasn't read Eat Fat, Lose Fat?

 

Has anyone read Eat Fat, Lose Fat? This book is great! It does emphasize a lot of coconut oil recipes, but it is also a great resource of nutritional information.

 

I know Barbara read this, she is the one who recommended it to me. :-)Cyndi

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We've just started to try to incorporate Fallon's Nourishing

Traditions into our diet. We got rid of all our processed oils & now

only buy our meat & dairy from an Amish farmer that is organic,

pasture-fed & raw. Do you all use raw dairy & if so, what do you do

with your soured milk & how long does it last? We can only pick up

every two weeks, so the milk does not stay fresh.

Angela

 

On 3/20/07, Barbara <barbara3 wrote:

>

I think that this book is so great that I will not hesitate to say that if

> you can only read one book make it " Eat Fat, Lose Fat " . This book gives you

> the fundamental, everyday knowledge of good nutrition and will make you

> understand why. This book will erase your fears of animal fats that you

> have drummed into for decades. What a shame and to what a damage to people's

> health!

>

> Barbara

>

>

>

>

> I also wanted to mention that Cod Liver Oil is one of the best sources for

> Vitamin A. I have the orange flavored one from Nordic Naturals. I mix a

> spoonful into kefir, fruit juice, or just some warm water. It is

> particularly beneficial when taken at the same time as EV coconut oil. I " ll

> write more on this later for the benefit of anyone who hasn't read Eat Fat,

> Lose Fat?

>

> Has anyone read Eat Fat, Lose Fat? This book is great! It does emphasize a

> lot of coconut oil recipes, but it is also a great resource of nutritional

> information.

>

> I know Barbara read this, she is the one who recommended it to me. :-)

>

> Cyndi

>

>

>

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Yes, I only drink raw Jersey milk. It happened twice that I have had that milk lasting 25 days and it was just as sweet and fresh tasting on the last day as it was on first. I also get milk every two weeks. If you get your milk really fresh, it should last 3 or 4 weeks in a really cold fridge, 36°. The other reason your milk sours early is your Amish farmer. As you know, Amish do not use modern technology and obviously your farmer does not cool his milk fast enough.

 

If your milk soured in the fridge, you can use it cooking. Make pancaces with it or other breakfast fritters.

 

Are you familiar with clabbered milk? It is a naturally soured milk and you can drink it, or eat it with freshly boiled potatoes, drizzled with pork fat fried with a little onion :))) Good! To make clabbered milk you set it out on the counter in a glass container (say Maon jar) for 2 to 4 days and you will have it.

 

Kudos to you and your family for eating healthy :)))

 

Barbara

 

 

We've just started to try to incorporate Fallon's NourishingTraditions into our diet. We got rid of all our processed oils & nowonly buy our meat & dairy from an Amish farmer that is organic,pasture-fed & raw. Do you all use raw dairy & if so, what do you dowith your soured milk & how long does it last? We can only pick up every two weeks, so the milk does not stay fresh.Angela

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OK guys, I'm very sorry...I make too many typos :(

I meant 'pancakes' and 'Mason jar'

 

Barbara

 

 

 

 

Yes, I only drink raw Jersey milk. It happened twice that I have had that milk lasting 25 days and it was just as sweet and fresh tasting on the last day as it was on first. I also get milk every two weeks. If you get your milk really fresh, it should last 3 or 4 weeks in a really cold fridge, 36°. The other reason your milk sours early is your Amish farmer. As you know, Amish do not use modern technology and obviously your farmer does not cool his milk fast enough.

 

If your milk soured in the fridge, you can use it cooking. Make pancaces with it or other breakfast fritters.

 

Are you familiar with clabbered milk? It is a naturally soured milk and you can drink it, or eat it with freshly boiled potatoes, drizzled with pork fat fried with a little onion :))) Good! To make clabbered milk you set it out on the counter in a glass container (say Maon jar) for 2 to 4 days and you will have it.

 

Kudos to you and your family for eating healthy :)))

 

Barbara

 

 

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Cyndi & Barbara,

Thanks for your speedy responses! We go through 5 gallons of milk

every 2 weeks. My 4 y.o. son could live on it, for real. I do freeze

2 or 3 gallons, but sometimes my timing on rotating & finishing milk

leaves us with maybe a quart or so that has soured. DH won't touch

it, he can't get past rancid pasteurized milk and DS thinks it is bad

(especially if he sees it separate) since pre-raw milk, it was drilled

into his head that it was bad if lumpy or smelly (he would find sippy

cups from yesterday etc. under the couch... I know, ewwww.).

 

So, what's kefir exactly? Is it a beverage or something like creme

fraiche or yogurt???

 

We live in Baltimore, Maryland, so raw dairy is illegal here. We have

to join a farm share group in PA & have it shipped here in order to

get it. I intend to take baby steps with the family, but so far

they've been pretty on-board (especially since just as I switched us

to raw dairy, DH & I watched The Corporation then our local

progressive paper did a " Raw Deal " front page article on the benefits

of Real Milk... somehow DH takes it better from someone other than me

;-)

 

Angela

 

On 3/20/07, cyndikrall <cyndikrall wrote:

>

>

Hi Angela;

>

> Welcome to the list! I think most of us are in some point of transition to a

> healthy diet. I do drink raw milk. I freeze one gallon when I get home from

> the store, and then take it out again a couple days later. It takes about a

> week to thaw fully.

>

> Do you drink kefir? I take two teaspoons of freshly strained kefir and add

> it to one gallon of raw milk. The cultures will keep the milk fresh, and

> noone will be able to taste it. It won't turn the milk into kefir, but the

> cultures will slow down the souring process and keep the milk fresh. If you

> consume one gallon in less than a week, you'll never be able to taste it. If

> one gallon lasts longer than a week, you might notice a slight flavor to the

> milk, but it is not unpleasant and does not bother me in the least.

>

> Hope this helps. What state do you live in?

> Cyndi

>

> In a message dated 3/20/2007 11:44:25 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

> charmcitymama writes:

> We've just started to try to incorporate Fallon's Nourishing

> Traditions into our diet. We got rid of all our processed oils & now

> only buy our meat & dairy from an Amish farmer that is organic,

> pasture-fed & raw. Do you all use raw dairy & if so, what do you do

> with your soured milk & how long does it last? We can only pick up

> every two weeks, so the milk does not stay fresh.

> Angela

>

>

>

>

>

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Angela,

 

That is kind of 'normal' that husbands and children are listening better to strangers than they do to us....and of course WE know best what is good for us, right? ;)

 

You are asking about kefir....kefir is a fermented milk drink, very similar to yogurt in taste and texture but beats the yogurt in beneficial bacteria. It contains more than 30 of the good guys while yogurt only has 6.

Kefir also is much easier to make than yogurt but you do need live kefir grains from someone to have a starter. Once you have it, you can go indefinitely.

 

I'm in Florida and raw milk is illegal here but we have a huge co-op, the farmer delivers about a thousand gallons of 'pet food' milk to different Tampa Bay locations every week. Each of us is getting milk every two weeks.

 

You are to be commanded for what you are doing!

 

Barbara

 

 

 

Cyndi & Barbara,Thanks for your speedy responses! We go through 5 gallons of milkevery 2 weeks. My 4 y.o. son could live on it, for real. I do freeze2 or 3 gallons, but sometimes my timing on rotating & finishing milkleaves us with maybe a quart or so that has soured. DH won't touchit, he can't get past rancid pasteurized milk and DS thinks it is bad(especially if he sees it separate) since pre-raw milk, it was drilledinto his head that it was bad if lumpy or smelly (he would find sippycups from yesterday etc. under the couch... I know, ewwww.).So, what's kefir exactly? Is it a beverage or something like cremefraiche or yogurt???We live in Baltimore, Maryland, so raw dairy is illegal here. We haveto join a farm share group in PA & have it shipped here in order toget it. I intend to take baby steps with the family, but so farthey've been pretty on-board (especially since just as I switched usto raw dairy, DH & I watched The Corporation then our localprogressive paper did a "Raw Deal" front page article on the benefitsof Real Milk... somehow DH takes it better from someone other than me;-)Angela

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Thanks for explaining kefir, Barbara...

 

Cyndi

 

 

In a message dated 3/20/2007 8:51:25 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, barbara3 writes:

 

Angela,

 

That is kind of 'normal' that husbands and children are listening better to strangers than they do to us....and of course WE know best what is good for us, right? ;)

 

You are asking about kefir....kefir is a fermented milk drink, very similar to yogurt in taste and texture but beats the yogurt in beneficial bacteria. It contains more than 30 of the good guys while yogurt only has 6.

Kefir also is much easier to make than yogurt but you do need live kefir grains from someone to have a starter. Once you have it, you can go indefinitely.

 

I'm in Florida and raw milk is illegal here but we have a huge co-op, the farmer delivers about a thousand gallons of 'pet food' milk to different Tampa Bay locations every week. Each of us is getting milk every two weeks.

 

You are to be commanded for what you are doing!

 

Barbara

 

 

 

Cyndi & Barbara,Thanks for your speedy responses! We go through 5 gallons of milkevery 2 weeks. My 4 y.o. son could live on it, for real. I do freeze2 or 3 gallons, but sometimes my timing on rotating & finishing milkleaves us with maybe a quart or so that has soured. DH won't touchit, he can't get past rancid pasteurized milk and DS thinks it is bad(especially if he sees it separate) since pre-raw milk, it was drilledinto his head that it was bad if lumpy or smelly (he would find sippycups from yesterday etc. under the couch... I know, ewwww.).So, what's kefir exactly? Is it a beverage or something like cremefraiche or yogurt???We live in Baltimore, Maryland, so raw dairy is illegal here. We haveto join a farm share group in PA & have it shipped here in order toget it. I intend to take baby steps with the family, but so farthey've been pretty on-board (especially since just as I switched usto raw dairy, DH & I watched The Corporation then our localprogressive paper did a "Raw Deal" front page article on the benefitsof Real Milk... somehow DH takes it better from someone other than me;-)Angela

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