Guest guest Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 With all of the talk about manufatured baby formulas I thought I would share with you what my wife and I are doing. My wife had problems breast feeding our 4 month old son. We wanted to breast feed all of our children because we know that it is the best food for babies but we are now faced with a problem. The good news is that my wife remembered a recipe for baby formula from when she was young. This recipe has light corn syrup which we do not favor. If anyone knows a good alternative sweetner and the amount needed then please let us know. This is our favorite recipe though. Here is the recipe: 2 (12oz) cans evap. milk 32 oz water 2 Tbs. light corn syrup 1.5 ml baby vitamine drops mix together and refridgerate. makes 56 oz (7 - 8 oz bottles) Here are some websites of other baby formulas. Some use Goat, Rice, or soy milk. Several recipes, many sugar-free: http://www.naturodoc.com/library/children/formula.htm Kids Organics - baby formula recipe using goat milk: http://www.kidsorganics.com/Remedies.htm Whole Foods baby formula recipe: http://www.realmilk.com/formularecipes.html Wholesome Baby Food: http://www.wholesomebabyfood.com/homemadebabyinfantformula Wise Traditions: http://www.westonaprice.org/children/recipes.html Love, The Oklahoma Tomcat http://joneshomestead.tripod.com/ My blog: http://thelifeofanoklhahomatomcat.blogspot.com/ My : jonesfamilyhomestead/ -------- I believe - That just because two people argue, it doesn't mean they don't love each other. And just because they don't argue, it doesn't mean they do. Attachment: vcard [not shown] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 What about brown rice syrup? I think its better then corn syrup. On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 7:09 PM, The Oklahoma Tomcat <jonesfamilyhomestead wrote: With all of the talk about manufatured baby formulas I thought I would share with you what my wife and I are doing. My wife had problems breast feeding our 4 month old son. We wanted to breast feed all of our children because we know that it is the best food for babies but we are now faced with a problem. The good news is that my wife remembered a recipe for baby formula from when she was young. This recipe has light corn syrup which we do not favor. If anyone knows a good alternative sweetner and the amount needed then please let us know. This is our favorite recipe though. Here is the recipe: 2 (12oz) cans evap. milk 32 oz water 2 Tbs. light corn syrup 1.5 ml baby vitamine drops mix together and refridgerate. makes 56 oz (7 - 8 oz bottles) Here are some websites of other baby formulas. Some use Goat, Rice, or soy milk. Several recipes, many sugar-free: http://www.naturodoc.com/library/children/formula.htm Kids Organics - baby formula recipe using goat milk: http://www.kidsorganics.com/Remedies.htm Whole Foods baby formula recipe: http://www.realmilk.com/formularecipes.html Wholesome Baby Food: http://www.wholesomebabyfood.com/homemadebabyinfantformula Wise Traditions: http://www.westonaprice.org/children/recipes.html Love, The Oklahoma Tomcat http://joneshomestead.tripod.com/ My blog: http://thelifeofanoklhahomatomcat.blogspot.com/ My : jonesfamilyhomestead/ -------- I believe - That just because two people argue, it doesn't mean they don't love each other. And just because they don't argue, it doesn't mean they do. -- Being a full-time mother is one of the highest salaried jobs... since the payment is pure love. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 I would have to look into that. I know syrup is in general the worst type of sugar and if possible, should be avoided. Love, The Oklahoma Tomcat http://joneshomestead.tripod.com/My blog: http://thelifeofanoklhahomatomcat.blogspot.com/My : jonesfamilyhomestead/--------I believe - That just because two people argue, it doesn't mean they don't love each other. And just because they don't argue, it doesn'tmean they do. - Michelle Friday, August 29, 2008 6:34 PM Re: [RFSL] Homemade Baby Formula What about brown rice syrup? I think its better then corn syrup. On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 7:09 PM, The Oklahoma Tomcat <jonesfamilyhomestead wrote: With all of the talk about manufatured baby formulas I thought I would sharewith you what my wife and I are doing. My wife had problems breast feedingour 4 month old son. We wanted to breast feed all of our children becausewe know that it is the best food for babies but we are now faced with aproblem. The good news is that my wife remembered a recipe for baby formulafrom when she was young. This recipe has light corn syrup which we do notfavor. If anyone knows a good alternative sweetner and the amount neededthen please let us know. This is our favorite recipe though. Here is therecipe:2 (12oz) cans evap. milk32 oz water2 Tbs. light corn syrup1.5 ml baby vitamine dropsmix together and refridgerate. makes 56 oz (7 - 8 oz bottles)Here are some websites of other baby formulas. Some use Goat, Rice, or soymilk.Several recipes, many sugar-free:http://www.naturodoc.com/library/children/formula.htmKids Organics - baby formula recipe using goat milk:http://www.kidsorganics.com/Remedies.htmWhole Foods baby formula recipe:http://www.realmilk.com/formularecipes.htmlWholesome Baby Food:http://www.wholesomebabyfood.com/homemadebabyinfantformulaWise Traditions:http://www.westonaprice.org/children/recipes.htmlLove,The Oklahoma Tomcathttp://joneshomestead.tripod.com/My blog: http://thelifeofanoklhahomatomcat.blogspot.com/My : jonesfamilyhomestead/--------I believe - That just because two people argue, it doesn't mean they don'tlove each other. And just because they don't argue, it doesn'tmean they do.-- Being a full-time mother is one of the highest salaried jobs... since the payment is pure love. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 My wife found out that she can use molasses in place of corn syrup in the homemade baby formula she makes. You use 1/2 the amount of molasses. The good thing is molasses is has potasium which is good for babies. Love, The Oklahoma Tomcat http://joneshomestead.tripod.com/My blog: http://thelifeofanoklhahomatomcat.blogspot.com/My : jonesfamilyhomestead/--------I believe - That just because two people argue, it doesn't mean they don't love each other. And just because they don't argue, it doesn'tmean they do. - Michelle Friday, August 29, 2008 6:34 PM Re: [RFSL] Homemade Baby Formula What about brown rice syrup? I think its better then corn syrup. On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 7:09 PM, The Oklahoma Tomcat <jonesfamilyhomestead wrote: With all of the talk about manufatured baby formulas I thought I would sharewith you what my wife and I are doing. My wife had problems breast feedingour 4 month old son. We wanted to breast feed all of our children becausewe know that it is the best food for babies but we are now faced with aproblem. The good news is that my wife remembered a recipe for baby formulafrom when she was young. This recipe has light corn syrup which we do notfavor. If anyone knows a good alternative sweetner and the amount neededthen please let us know. This is our favorite recipe though. Here is therecipe:2 (12oz) cans evap. milk32 oz water2 Tbs. light corn syrup1.5 ml baby vitamine dropsmix together and refridgerate. makes 56 oz (7 - 8 oz bottles)Here are some websites of other baby formulas. Some use Goat, Rice, or soymilk.Several recipes, many sugar-free:http://www.naturodoc.com/library/children/formula.htmKids Organics - baby formula recipe using goat milk:http://www.kidsorganics.com/Remedies.htmWhole Foods baby formula recipe:http://www.realmilk.com/formularecipes.htmlWholesome Baby Food:http://www.wholesomebabyfood.com/homemadebabyinfantformulaWise Traditions:http://www.westonaprice.org/children/recipes.htmlLove,The Oklahoma Tomcathttp://joneshomestead.tripod.com/My blog: http://thelifeofanoklhahomatomcat.blogspot.com/My : jonesfamilyhomestead/--------I believe - That just because two people argue, it doesn't mean they don'tlove each other. And just because they don't argue, it doesn'tmean they do.-- Being a full-time mother is one of the highest salaried jobs... since the payment is pure love. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 Thank you so much for the recipe! Do you use just vitamin drops or are they a multimineral vitamin mix? I wish I had known about this earlier! Oh, well, I do now!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 Not to sound like a goof here but... why can't you just omit the sugar altogether? On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 11:59 PM, The Oklahoma Tomcat <jonesfamilyhomestead wrote: My wife found out that she can use molasses in place of corn syrup in the homemade baby formula she makes. You use 1/2 the amount of molasses. The good thing is molasses is has potasium which is good for babies. Love, The Oklahoma Tomcat http://joneshomestead.tripod.com/My blog: http://thelifeofanoklhahomatomcat.blogspot.com/My : jonesfamilyhomestead/--------I believe - That just because two people argue, it doesn't mean they don't love each other. And just because they don't argue, it doesn'tmean they do. - Michelle Friday, August 29, 2008 6:34 PM Re: [RFSL] Homemade Baby Formula What about brown rice syrup? I think its better then corn syrup. On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 7:09 PM, The Oklahoma Tomcat <jonesfamilyhomestead wrote: With all of the talk about manufatured baby formulas I thought I would sharewith you what my wife and I are doing. My wife had problems breast feedingour 4 month old son. We wanted to breast feed all of our children becausewe know that it is the best food for babies but we are now faced with aproblem. The good news is that my wife remembered a recipe for baby formulafrom when she was young. This recipe has light corn syrup which we do notfavor. If anyone knows a good alternative sweetner and the amount neededthen please let us know. This is our favorite recipe though. Here is therecipe:2 (12oz) cans evap. milk32 oz water2 Tbs. light corn syrup1.5 ml baby vitamine dropsmix together and refridgerate. makes 56 oz (7 - 8 oz bottles)Here are some websites of other baby formulas. Some use Goat, Rice, or soymilk.Several recipes, many sugar-free:http://www.naturodoc.com/library/children/formula.htmKids Organics - baby formula recipe using goat milk:http://www.kidsorganics.com/Remedies.htmWhole Foods baby formula recipe:http://www.realmilk.com/formularecipes.htmlWholesome Baby Food:http://www.wholesomebabyfood.com/homemadebabyinfantformulaWise Traditions:http://www.westonaprice.org/children/recipes.htmlLove,The Oklahoma Tomcathttp://joneshomestead.tripod.com/My blog: http://thelifeofanoklhahomatomcat.blogspot.com/ My : jonesfamilyhomestead/--------I believe - That just because two people argue, it doesn't mean they don'tlove each other. And just because they don't argue, it doesn'tmean they do.-- Being a full-time mother is one of the highest salaried jobs... since the payment is pure love. -- ~~~~Being a full-time mother is one of the highest salaried jobs... since the payment is pure love~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 Yeah...that's what I was thinkin' also, heehee. There's enough naturally occurring lactose sugar in the milk to begin with that I could not imagine adding more. (...but then that's just me. I cut sugar anywhere I can.) <smiles> --Cee-- Michelle <suprmommy Sent: Monday, September 1, 2008 5:31:40 PMRe: [RFSL] Homemade Baby Formula Not to sound like a goof here but... why can't you just omit the sugar altogether? .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 That's a good point - just because it doesn't taste good to us, doesn't mean it won't taste good to a baby. Have you ever tasted baby formula? Blech! Unfortunately, I was one of the mothers who switched from breast milk to formula around 12 mos (if only I knew then what I know now - Sigh!). Anyways - they went through several formulas and not one of them tasted good to me (yep, I tasted them all). Another thing is that when they switched to regular milk, I added fish oil to it - didn't phase them a bit. To this day, they still drink fish oil with their milk (although I add some juice to it too so its like a smoothy). I've tried drinking cod liver oil and it REALLY makes me sick so I think if you can start them early on something - they'll acquire a taste for it! LOL. By the way, my mother (who is about 52 yrs old) said they used to keep a bottle of cod liver oil in the refridgerator and her and her brothers and sisters would drink it DAILY and LIKED IT! Ugh - was this normal back then?? If so, that sure supports my theory about acquiring a taste for things! <grins> Barb , Michelle <suprmommy wrote: > > Not to sound like a goof here but... why can't you just omit the sugar > altogether? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 It was definitely normal for people to give their kids cod liver oil, castor oil, etc. for any and all sorts of ailments. My MIL tells stories of drinking bone set tea, and having to take castor and cod liver oils at the first sign of any illness. Any kind of fish oil makes me horridly sick! Cyndi In a message dated 9/1/2008 9:48:53 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, FirstYrs08 writes: By the way, my mother (who is about 52 yrs old) said they used to keep a bottle of cod liver oil in the refridgerator and her and her brothers and sisters would drink it DAILY and LIKED IT! Ugh - was this normal back then?? If so, that sure supports my theory about acquiring a taste for things! <grins>Barb It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 we use multivitamin supplement drops Love, Oktomcat http://joneshomestead.tripod.com/My blog: http://thelifeofanoklhahomatomcat.blogspot.com/My : jonesfamilyhomestead/--------I believe - That just because two people argue, it doesn't mean they don't love each other. And just because they don't argue, it doesn'tmean they do. - kelli boone Monday, September 01, 2008 1:32 PM [RFSL] Re:Homemade Baby Formula Thank you so much for the recipe! Do you use just vitamin drops or are they a multimineral vitamin mix? I wish I had known about this earlier! Oh, well, I do now!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 Babies do need a little sugar. Sugar is essencial to the human body. The problem is kids and adults get sugar from lots of sources in the food we eat and some of us eat too much. Babies only have formula or breast milk. If a woman is breast feeding then their is no problem but a formula fed baby gets no sugar except in what is in the formula. Love, The Oklahoma Tomcat http://joneshomestead.tripod.com/My blog: http://thelifeofanoklhahomatomcat.blogspot.com/My : jonesfamilyhomestead/--------I believe - That just because two people argue, it doesn't mean they don't love each other. And just because they don't argue, it doesn'tmean they do. - Michelle Monday, September 01, 2008 4:31 PM Re: [RFSL] Homemade Baby Formula Not to sound like a goof here but... why can't you just omit the sugar altogether? On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 11:59 PM, The Oklahoma Tomcat <jonesfamilyhomestead wrote: My wife found out that she can use molasses in place of corn syrup in the homemade baby formula she makes. You use 1/2 the amount of molasses. The good thing is molasses is has potasium which is good for babies. Love, The Oklahoma Tomcat http://joneshomestead.tripod.com/My blog: http://thelifeofanoklhahomatomcat.blogspot.com/My : jonesfamilyhomestead/--------I believe - That just because two people argue, it doesn't mean they don't love each other. And just because they don't argue, it doesn'tmean they do. - Michelle Friday, August 29, 2008 6:34 PM Re: [RFSL] Homemade Baby Formula What about brown rice syrup? I think its better then corn syrup. On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 7:09 PM, The Oklahoma Tomcat <jonesfamilyhomestead wrote: With all of the talk about manufatured baby formulas I thought I would sharewith you what my wife and I are doing. My wife had problems breast feedingour 4 month old son. We wanted to breast feed all of our children becausewe know that it is the best food for babies but we are now faced with aproblem. The good news is that my wife remembered a recipe for baby formulafrom when she was young. This recipe has light corn syrup which we do notfavor. If anyone knows a good alternative sweetner and the amount neededthen please let us know. This is our favorite recipe though. Here is therecipe:2 (12oz) cans evap. milk32 oz water2 Tbs. light corn syrup1.5 ml baby vitamine dropsmix together and refridgerate. makes 56 oz (7 - 8 oz bottles)Here are some websites of other baby formulas. Some use Goat, Rice, or soymilk.Several recipes, many sugar-free:http://www.naturodoc.com/library/children/formula.htmKids Organics - baby formula recipe using goat milk:http://www.kidsorganics.com/Remedies.htmWhole Foods baby formula recipe:http://www.realmilk.com/formularecipes.htmlWholesome Baby Food:http://www.wholesomebabyfood.com/homemadebabyinfantformulaWise Traditions:http://www.westonaprice.org/children/recipes.htmlLove,The Oklahoma Tomcathttp://joneshomestead.tripod.com/My blog: http://thelifeofanoklhahomatomcat.blogspot.com/My : jonesfamilyhomestead/--------I believe - That just because two people argue, it doesn't mean they don'tlove each other. And just because they don't argue, it doesn'tmean they do. -- Being a full-time mother is one of the highest salaried jobs... since the payment is pure love.-- ~~~~Being a full-time mother is one of the highest salaried jobs... since the payment is pure love~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 I guess if you use milk to make the formula then you could omit the sugar all together. I have to check and see how much sugar a baby needs and if milk has enough. Thanks. Love, The Oklahoma Tomcat http://joneshomestead.tripod.com/My blog: http://thelifeofanoklhahomatomcat.blogspot.com/My : jonesfamilyhomestead/--------I believe - That just because two people argue, it doesn't mean they don't love each other. And just because they don't argue, it doesn'tmean they do. - Celia Browne Monday, September 01, 2008 8:30 PM Re: [RFSL] Homemade Baby Formula Yeah...that's what I was thinkin' also, heehee. There's enough naturally occurring lactose sugar in the milk to begin with that I could not imagine adding more. (...but then that's just me. I cut sugar anywhere I can.) <smiles> --Cee-- Michelle <suprmommy Sent: Monday, September 1, 2008 5:31:40 PMRe: [RFSL] Homemade Baby Formula Not to sound like a goof here but... why can't you just omit the sugar altogether? .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 Tomcat: Not to be a smart-mouth, but why would you say that 'sugar' is essential to the human body? It sure tastes good, but I'm not convinced it's essential. While I never finished my degree in nutrition (I studied to be a registered dietitian), I can tell you that sugar is a "simple" carbohydrate, of which some third world cultures eat NONE. (Traditional Alaskan Eskimos, for instance, who survive on a diet of whale blubber.) Before we became hunter-gatherers, our ancestors lived on mostly meat, especially in the winter. Fruits, vegetables and honey were eaten in season, and only when available. Grains were unheard of. All of these people survived quite well without refined sugar in their diet, providing there was ample foodstuff to prevent starvation. I'm not saying that all sugar or all carbs are bad...quite the contrary. I'm a big fan of fruit and I LOVE dairy products, but I try to keep my consumption to a reasonable amount and forgo the refined junk altogether. Another thing to note; the world's biggest diabetologist, (can't remember his name off the top of my head) has all of his patients on a high protein, VERY low carb diet--no fruits, grains, or legumes and limited vegetables only--and nothing else. He has been doing it for 40 years now and his patients have a much higher survival rate and w-a-y better BS control than your typical diabetic. Point is that all survive and actually thrive without even naturally occurring sugar in their diet, let alone refined sugar... I could never do that though. I love my fruit and veggies way too much to give them up, LOL! --Cee-- The Oklahoma Tomcat <jonesfamilyhomestead Sent: Wednesday, September 3, 2008 6:22:40 AMRe: [RFSL] Homemade Baby Formula Babies do need a little sugar. Sugar is essencial to the human body. The problem is kids and adults get sugar from lots of sources in the food we eat and some of us eat too much. Babies only have formula or breast milk. If a woman is breast feeding then their is no problem but a formula fed baby gets no sugar except in what is in the formula. Love, The Oklahoma Tomcat .. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 Are you talking about the Adkins diet? That is a very dangerous diet. http://www.healthbulletin.org/weight_loss/weight18.htm http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2003/sep/21/society.politics http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/500118/ http://www.hopkinshospital.org/health_info/Diabetes/Reading/highprotein.html It has been proven by many health officials and specialists that a low carb high protein diet has many long term health problems. The body does need sugar and carbohidrates. According to Christine Gerbstadt, MD, RD, the human body needs no more then 10% of our caloric intake. The problem is that most of us eat much more then that. The other problem is what type of sugar most of us eat. It isn't so much how much sugar we eat as much as what type of sugar we eat. Processed sugars are much worse for you then Natural Sugars. Our bodies do need Natural Sugars. But too much of any good thing is bad for us. Just as our bodies do need fat for healthy skin but too much fat is very bad for us. Fruit is very healthy for us but it does have natural sugar and too much of natural sugars is bad. Carbohydrates is very good for us but it does change to sugar in our bodies and too much is bad for us. Protein is very good for us but too much is bad for us. This list can go on and on. A well balanced diet and excercise has been proven many times to be the best way to stay fit and healthy. Follow the food pyramid and get off of the couch. The problem is that many people live in a microwave society and they want a simple and fast way to be healthy so they fall for fad diets that have serious health effects. They also want to beleive that they can eat all they want of their favorite foods and be healthy. Our bodies don't work that way. Our body needs grains, vegetables, fruit, dairy, protiens, fats, oils, and sugars. But we should not go beyond the recomended amounts for our body and lifestyle. Take care and God Bless. Love, The Oklahoma Tomcat http://joneshomestead.tripod.com/My blog: http://thelifeofanoklhahomatomcat.blogspot.com/My : jonesfamilyhomestead/--------I believe - That just because two people argue, it doesn't mean they don't love each other. And just because they don't argue, it doesn'tmean they do. - Celia Browne Wednesday, September 03, 2008 10:37 AM Re: [RFSL] Homemade Baby Formula Tomcat: Not to be a smart-mouth, but why would you say that 'sugar' is essential to the human body? It sure tastes good, but I'm not convinced it's essential. While I never finished my degree in nutrition (I studied to be a registered dietitian), I can tell you that sugar is a "simple" carbohydrate, of which some third world cultures eat NONE. (Traditional Alaskan Eskimos, for instance, who survive on a diet of whale blubber.) Before we became hunter-gatherers, our ancestors lived on mostly meat, especially in the winter. Fruits, vegetables and honey were eaten in season, and only when available. Grains were unheard of. All of these people survived quite well without refined sugar in their diet, providing there was ample foodstuff to prevent starvation. I'm not saying that all sugar or all carbs are bad...quite the contrary. I'm a big fan of fruit and I LOVE dairy products, but I try to keep my consumption to a reasonable amount and forgo the refined junk altogether. Another thing to note; the world's biggest diabetologist, (can't remember his name off the top of my head) has all of his patients on a high protein, VERY low carb diet--no fruits, grains, or legumes and limited vegetables only--and nothing else. He has been doing it for 40 years now and his patients have a much higher survival rate and w-a-y better BS control than your typical diabetic. Point is that all survive and actually thrive without even naturally occurring sugar in their diet, let alone refined sugar... I could never do that though. I love my fruit and veggies way too much to give them up, LOL! --Cee-- The Oklahoma Tomcat <jonesfamilyhomestead Sent: Wednesday, September 3, 2008 6:22:40 AMRe: [RFSL] Homemade Baby Formula Babies do need a little sugar. Sugar is essencial to the human body. The problem is kids and adults get sugar from lots of sources in the food we eat and some of us eat too much. Babies only have formula or breast milk. If a woman is breast feeding then their is no problem but a formula fed baby gets no sugar except in what is in the formula. Love, The Oklahoma Tomcat .. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 Oh, no, no, no! I think I need to explain a little more. First, let me say that I am not recommending this diet, only pointing out that many diabetic people eat it and stay healthy, and in fact have less side effects and live longer than diabetics who do not follow his diet. This is also NOT an optimal diet for a normal, healthy person who has no insulin problems. A normal healthy person should never restrict their consumption of fruits, beans, legumes, etc., as it deprives them of important fiber and nutrients that prevent heart attacks, cancer, etc. Complex carbohydrates from these kinds of food are not only normal but healthy for human beings. Regarding the diet itself, I should specify that the only thing those two diets have in common is the 'lower' carbohydrate factor, but the diabetologist recommended diet is higher carbs than the Atkins diet and more like the "caveman" diet but less than South Beach diet. His diet is higher in lean protein, nuts and healthier fats (avocados and olives, etc.), with adequate amounts of lower carb vegetables such as lettuce and spinach. As a Type-2 diabetic, I have controlled my diabetes without medication for 8 years now through diet alone, and I am w-a-y healthier as a result. I cannot, however, eat quite as restrictive as his diet recommends as I love legumes and beans and fruit, which is higher in complex carbs then he recommends. <shrugs shoulders> I do well though. Despite my diabetes, I have a normal life expectancy according to insurance tables, unlike my fellow diabetics who chose to eat what they want and take meds instead... Sorry if there was any misunderstanding! I probably did not include adequate background information for you, which would lead you to the wrong conclusion! <smiles> --Celia-- The Oklahoma Tomcat <jonesfamilyhomestead Sent: Thursday, September 4, 2008 10:03:19 PMRe: [RFSL] Homemade Baby Formula Are you talking about the Adkins diet? That is a very dangerous diet. http://www.healthbu lletin.org/ weight_loss/ weight18. htm http://www.guardian .co.uk/uk/ 2003/sep/ 21/society. politics http://www.newswise .com/articles/ view/500118/ http://www.hopkinsh ospital.org/ health_info/ Diabetes/ Reading/highprot ein.html It has been proven by many health officials and specialists that a low carb high protein diet has many long term health problems. The body does need sugar and carbohidrates. According to Christine Gerbstadt, MD, RD, the human body needs no more then 10% of our caloric intake. The problem is that most of us eat much more then that. The other problem is what type of sugar most of us eat. It isn't so much how much sugar we eat as much as what type of sugar we eat. Processed sugars are much worse for you then Natural Sugars. Our bodies do need Natural Sugars. But too much of any good thing is bad for us. Just as our bodies do need fat for healthy skin but too much fat is very bad for us. Fruit is very healthy for us but it does have natural sugar and too much of natural sugars is bad. Carbohydrates is very good for us but it does change to sugar in our bodies and too much is bad for us. Protein is very good for us but too much is bad for us. This list can go on and on. A well balanced diet and excercise has been proven many times to be the best way to stay fit and healthy. Follow the food pyramid and get off of the couch. The problem is that many people live in a microwave society and they want a simple and fast way to be healthy so they fall for fad diets that have serious health effects. They also want to beleive that they can eat all they want of their favorite foods and be healthy. Our bodies don't work that way. Our body needs grains, vegetables, fruit, dairy, protiens, fats, oils, and sugars. But we should not go beyond the recomended amounts for our body and lifestyle. Take care and God Bless. Love, The Oklahoma Tomcat http://joneshomeste ad.tripod. com/My blog: http://thelifeofano klhahomatomcat. blogspot. com/My : http://groups. / group/jonesfamil yhomestead/------------ --------- --------- --------- --I believe - That just because two people argue, it doesn't mean they don't love each other. And just because they don't argue, it doesn'tmean they do. - Celia Browne Wednesday, September 03, 2008 10:37 AM Re: [RFSL] Homemade Baby Formula Tomcat: Not to be a smart-mouth, but why would you say that 'sugar' is essential to the human body? It sure tastes good, but I'm not convinced it's essential. While I never finished my degree in nutrition (I studied to be a registered dietitian), I can tell you that sugar is a "simple" carbohydrate, of which some third world cultures eat NONE. (Traditional Alaskan Eskimos, for instance, who survive on a diet of whale blubber.) Before we became hunter-gatherers, our ancestors lived on mostly meat, especially in the winter. Fruits, vegetables and honey were eaten in season, and only when available. Grains were unheard of. All of these people survived quite well without refined sugar in their diet, providing there was ample foodstuff to prevent starvation. I'm not saying that all sugar or all carbs are bad...quite the contrary. I'm a big fan of fruit and I LOVE dairy products, but I try to keep my consumption to a reasonable amount and forgo the refined junk altogether. Another thing to note; the world's biggest diabetologist, (can't remember his name off the top of my head) has all of his patients on a high protein, VERY low carb diet--no fruits, grains, or legumes and limited vegetables only--and nothing else. He has been doing it for 40 years now and his patients have a much higher survival rate and w-a-y better BS control than your typical diabetic. Point is that all survive and actually thrive without even naturally occurring sugar in their diet, let alone refined sugar... I could never do that though. I love my fruit and veggies way too much to give them up, LOL! --Cee-- The Oklahoma Tomcat <jonesfamilyhomestea dWednesday, September 3, 2008 6:22:40 AMRe: [RFSL] Homemade Baby Formula Babies do need a little sugar. Sugar is essencial to the human body. The problem is kids and adults get sugar from lots of sources in the food we eat and some of us eat too much. Babies only have formula or breast milk. If a woman is breast feeding then their is no problem but a formula fed baby gets no sugar except in what is in the formula. Love, The Oklahoma Tomcat .. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2008 Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 Oh, OK. Diabetics do have to lower or even eliminate all sugars (including carbs). That is different. Instead of Sugar being needed for a healthy diet, Sugar is actually a poison. I would agree that a diabetic needs to change there diets to limit or even avoid sugars. People who are diabetic and change their diets to avoid sugars of all kinds do live longer and healthier. Actually, the Adkins diet was origanly made for diabetics. When Dr. Adkin saw that people who went on this diet was also lossing weight he started advertising it as a weight loss diet. Unfortunatly, the long term affects was not studied before it reached the public. I am really glad that you are staying away from sugars. I know a lot of diabetics who do not. Keep up the good work. Take care and God Bless. Love, The Oklahoma Tomcat http://joneshomestead.tripod.com/My blog: http://thelifeofanoklhahomatomcat.blogspot.com/My : jonesfamilyhomestead/--------I believe - That just because two people argue, it doesn't mean they don't love each other. And just because they don't argue, it doesn'tmean they do. - Celia Browne Friday, September 05, 2008 8:50 AM Re: [RFSL] Homemade Baby Formula Oh, no, no, no! I think I need to explain a little more. First, let me say that I am not recommending this diet, only pointing out that many diabetic people eat it and stay healthy, and in fact have less side effects and live longer than diabetics who do not follow his diet. This is also NOT an optimal diet for a normal, healthy person who has no insulin problems. A normal healthy person should never restrict their consumption of fruits, beans, legumes, etc., as it deprives them of important fiber and nutrients that prevent heart attacks, cancer, etc. Complex carbohydrates from these kinds of food are not only normal but healthy for human beings. Regarding the diet itself, I should specify that the only thing those two diets have in common is the 'lower' carbohydrate factor, but the diabetologist recommended diet is higher carbs than the Atkins diet and more like the "caveman" diet but less than South Beach diet. His diet is higher in lean protein, nuts and healthier fats (avocados and olives, etc.), with adequate amounts of lower carb vegetables such as lettuce and spinach. As a Type-2 diabetic, I have controlled my diabetes without medication for 8 years now through diet alone, and I am w-a-y healthier as a result. I cannot, however, eat quite as restrictive as his diet recommends as I love legumes and beans and fruit, which is higher in complex carbs then he recommends. <shrugs shoulders> I do well though. Despite my diabetes, I have a normal life expectancy according to insurance tables, unlike my fellow diabetics who chose to eat what they want and take meds instead... Sorry if there was any misunderstanding! I probably did not include adequate background information for you, which would lead you to the wrong conclusion! <smiles> --Celia-- The Oklahoma Tomcat <jonesfamilyhomestead Sent: Thursday, September 4, 2008 10:03:19 PMRe: [RFSL] Homemade Baby Formula Are you talking about the Adkins diet? That is a very dangerous diet. http://www.healthbu lletin.org/ weight_loss/ weight18. htm http://www.guardian .co.uk/uk/ 2003/sep/ 21/society. politics http://www.newswise .com/articles/ view/500118/ http://www.hopkinsh ospital.org/ health_info/ Diabetes/ Reading/highprot ein.html It has been proven by many health officials and specialists that a low carb high protein diet has many long term health problems. The body does need sugar and carbohidrates. According to Christine Gerbstadt, MD, RD, the human body needs no more then 10% of our caloric intake. The problem is that most of us eat much more then that. The other problem is what type of sugar most of us eat. It isn't so much how much sugar we eat as much as what type of sugar we eat. Processed sugars are much worse for you then Natural Sugars. Our bodies do need Natural Sugars. But too much of any good thing is bad for us. Just as our bodies do need fat for healthy skin but too much fat is very bad for us. Fruit is very healthy for us but it does have natural sugar and too much of natural sugars is bad. Carbohydrates is very good for us but it does change to sugar in our bodies and too much is bad for us. Protein is very good for us but too much is bad for us. This list can go on and on. A well balanced diet and excercise has been proven many times to be the best way to stay fit and healthy. Follow the food pyramid and get off of the couch. The problem is that many people live in a microwave society and they want a simple and fast way to be healthy so they fall for fad diets that have serious health effects. They also want to beleive that they can eat all they want of their favorite foods and be healthy. Our bodies don't work that way. Our body needs grains, vegetables, fruit, dairy, protiens, fats, oils, and sugars. But we should not go beyond the recomended amounts for our body and lifestyle. Take care and God Bless. Love, The Oklahoma Tomcat http://joneshomeste ad.tripod. com/My blog: http://thelifeofano klhahomatomcat. blogspot. com/My : http://groups. / group/jonesfamil yhomestead/------------ --------- --------- --------- --I believe - That just because two people argue, it doesn't mean they don't love each other. And just because they don't argue, it doesn'tmean they do. - Celia Browne Wednesday, September 03, 2008 10:37 AM Re: [RFSL] Homemade Baby Formula Tomcat: Not to be a smart-mouth, but why would you say that 'sugar' is essential to the human body? It sure tastes good, but I'm not convinced it's essential. While I never finished my degree in nutrition (I studied to be a registered dietitian), I can tell you that sugar is a "simple" carbohydrate, of which some third world cultures eat NONE. (Traditional Alaskan Eskimos, for instance, who survive on a diet of whale blubber.) Before we became hunter-gatherers, our ancestors lived on mostly meat, especially in the winter. Fruits, vegetables and honey were eaten in season, and only when available. Grains were unheard of. All of these people survived quite well without refined sugar in their diet, providing there was ample foodstuff to prevent starvation. I'm not saying that all sugar or all carbs are bad...quite the contrary. I'm a big fan of fruit and I LOVE dairy products, but I try to keep my consumption to a reasonable amount and forgo the refined junk altogether. Another thing to note; the world's biggest diabetologist, (can't remember his name off the top of my head) has all of his patients on a high protein, VERY low carb diet--no fruits, grains, or legumes and limited vegetables only--and nothing else. He has been doing it for 40 years now and his patients have a much higher survival rate and w-a-y better BS control than your typical diabetic. Point is that all survive and actually thrive without even naturally occurring sugar in their diet, let alone refined sugar... I could never do that though. I love my fruit and veggies way too much to give them up, LOL! --Cee-- The Oklahoma Tomcat <jonesfamilyhomestea dWednesday, September 3, 2008 6:22:40 AMRe: [RFSL] Homemade Baby Formula Babies do need a little sugar. Sugar is essencial to the human body. The problem is kids and adults get sugar from lots of sources in the food we eat and some of us eat too much. Babies only have formula or breast milk. If a woman is breast feeding then their is no problem but a formula fed baby gets no sugar except in what is in the formula. Love, The Oklahoma Tomcat .. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 The food pyramid is the LAST thing I would recommend be followed for a healthy diet, even with the new revisions. Different people need different amounts of protein to look and feel their best. There is no one "recipe" just as there is no one perfect diet for everyone. There is a "majority" of things we can eat and do that is universal, with some fine tuning to meet individual needs. Cyndi In a message dated 9/4/2008 7:10:18 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jonesfamilyhomestead writes: Are you talking about the Adkins diet? That is a very dangerous diet. http://www.healthbulletin.org/weight_loss/weight18.htm http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2003/sep/21/society.politics http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/500118/ http://www.hopkinshospital.org/health_info/Diabetes/Reading/highprotein.html It has been proven by many health officials and specialists that a low carb high protein diet has many long term health problems. The body does need sugar and carbohidrates. According to Christine Gerbstadt, MD, RD, the human body needs no more then 10% of our caloric intake. The problem is that most of us eat much more then that. The other problem is what type of sugar most of us eat. It isn't so much how much sugar we eat as much as what type of sugar we eat. Processed sugars are much worse for you then Natural Sugars. Our bodies do need Natural Sugars. But too much of any good thing is bad for us. Just as our bodies do need fat for healthy skin but too much fat is very bad for us. Fruit is very healthy for us but it does have natural sugar and too much of natural sugars is bad. Carbohydrates is very good for us but it does change to sugar in our bodies and too much is bad for us. Protein is very good for us but too much is bad for us. This list can go on and on. A well balanced diet and excercise has been proven many times to be the best way to stay fit and healthy. Follow the food pyramid and get off of the couch. The problem is that many people live in a microwave society and they want a simple and fast way to be healthy so they fall for fad diets that have serious health effects. They also want to beleive that they can eat all they want of their favorite foods and be healthy. Our bodies don't work that way. Our body needs grains, vegetables, fruit, dairy, protiens, fats, oils, and sugars. But we should not go beyond the recomended amounts for our body and lifestyle. Take care and God Bless. Love, The Oklahoma Tomcat http://joneshomestead.tripod.com/My blog: http://thelifeofanoklhahomatomcat.blogspot.com/My : jonesfamilyhomestead/--------I believe - That just because two people argue, it doesn't mean they don't love each other. And just because they don't argue, it doesn'tmean they do. - Celia Browne Wednesday, September 03, 2008 10:37 AM Re: [RFSL] Homemade Baby Formula Tomcat: Not to be a smart-mouth, but why would you say that 'sugar' is essential to the human body? It sure tastes good, but I'm not convinced it's essential. While I never finished my degree in nutrition (I studied to be a registered dietitian), I can tell you that sugar is a "simple" carbohydrate, of which some third world cultures eat NONE. (Traditional Alaskan Eskimos, for instance, who survive on a diet of whale blubber.) Before we became hunter-gatherers, our ancestors lived on mostly meat, especially in the winter. Fruits, vegetables and honey were eaten in season, and only when available. Grains were unheard of. All of these people survived quite well without refined sugar in their diet, providing there was ample foodstuff to prevent starvation. I'm not saying that all sugar or all carbs are bad...quite the contrary. I'm a big fan of fruit and I LOVE dairy products, but I try to keep my consumption to a reasonable amount and forgo the refined junk altogether. Another thing to note; the world's biggest diabetologist, (can't remember his name off the top of my head) has all of his patients on a high protein, VERY low carb diet--no fruits, grains, or legumes and limited vegetables only--and nothing else. He has been doing it for 40 years now and his patients have a much higher survival rate and w-a-y better BS control than your typical diabetic. Point is that all survive and actually thrive without even naturally occurring sugar in their diet, let alone refined sugar... I could never do that though. I love my fruit and veggies way too much to give them up, LOL! --Cee-- The Oklahoma Tomcat <jonesfamilyhomestead Sent: Wednesday, September 3, 2008 6:22:40 AMRe: [RFSL] Homemade Baby Formula Babies do need a little sugar. Sugar is essencial to the human body. The problem is kids and adults get sugar from lots of sources in the food we eat and some of us eat too much. Babies only have formula or breast milk. If a woman is breast feeding then their is no problem but a formula fed baby gets no sugar except in what is in the formula. Love, The Oklahoma Tomcat .. .. Messages in this topic (14) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 Legumes and beans and fruit are VERY good for you. Noone should eliminate them from their diet. Moderation in everything.....fruit has so many benefits, even for diabetics. I'm glad to hear you're doing so well, Cee. :-)Cyndi In a message dated 9/5/2008 6:51:21 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, lady_celia writes: I cannot, however, eat quite as restrictive as his diet recommends as I love legumes and beans and fruit, which is higher in complex carbs then he recommends. <shrugs shoulders> I do well though. Despite my diabetes, I have a normal life expectancy according to insurance tables, unlike my fellow diabetics who chose to eat what they want and take meds instead... Sorry if there was any misunderstanding! I probably did not include adequate background information for you, which would lead you to the wrong conclusion! <smiles> --Celia-- Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 Love my legumes and beans and fruit...and can't/won't live without them! There are times when it does not always work perfectly, but I am much healthier and feel so much better with my diet today. Years ago I used to be vegetarian and have slowly returned to a more "natural" diet--including more meat--never realizing how much processed stuff I used to eat. (I thought if it was made of vegetable product and labeled organic, how bad can it be? Duh! It's still processed.) Anyway, being diabetic is like having a broken thermometer on your furnace...you never know what temp it will be today, LOL! Case in point; today my BS shot up to over 300 after eating brown rice and veggies with ginger beef. That rarely happens. <shrugs shoulders> I just drank a lot of water to dilute the carbs and took a long and vigorous walk. Within a 1/2 hour, I was back under 120. Works like a charm...at least for me, heehee. --Cee-- "cyndikrall" <cyndikrall Sent: Monday, September 8, 2008 5:17:46 PMRe: [RFSL] Homemade Baby Formula Legumes and beans and fruit are VERY good for you. Noone should eliminate them from their diet. Moderation in everything.. ...fruit has so many benefits, even for diabetics. I'm glad to hear you're doing so well, Cee. :-)Cyndi .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 We don't use the pyramid by the letter but only as a guide. We use it as a guide. For instance, we eat more grains and rice then protein. More protein then fruit and veg. More fuit and veg then simple sugars, and so fourth. I do feel that this diet is a better diet then many "Fad" diets. Another thing is not to eat more calories then you burn. An active person will need more calories then a person who sits at the TV a lot. Love, The Oklahoma Tomcat http://joneshomestead.tripod.com/My blog: http://thelifeofanoklhahomatomcat.blogspot.com/My : jonesfamilyhomestead/--------I believe - That just because two people argue, it doesn't mean they don't love each other. And just because they don't argue, it doesn'tmean they do. - cyndikrall Monday, September 08, 2008 4:06 PM Re: [RFSL] Homemade Baby Formula The food pyramid is the LAST thing I would recommend be followed for a healthy diet, even with the new revisions. Different people need different amounts of protein to look and feel their best. There is no one "recipe" just as there is no one perfect diet for everyone. There is a "majority" of things we can eat and do that is universal, with some fine tuning to meet individual needs. Cyndi In a message dated 9/4/2008 7:10:18 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jonesfamilyhomestead writes: Are you talking about the Adkins diet? That is a very dangerous diet. http://www.healthbulletin.org/weight_loss/weight18.htm http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2003/sep/21/society.politics http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/500118/ http://www.hopkinshospital.org/health_info/Diabetes/Reading/highprotein.html It has been proven by many health officials and specialists that a low carb high protein diet has many long term health problems. The body does need sugar and carbohidrates. According to Christine Gerbstadt, MD, RD, the human body needs no more then 10% of our caloric intake. The problem is that most of us eat much more then that. The other problem is what type of sugar most of us eat. It isn't so much how much sugar we eat as much as what type of sugar we eat. Processed sugars are much worse for you then Natural Sugars. Our bodies do need Natural Sugars. But too much of any good thing is bad for us. Just as our bodies do need fat for healthy skin but too much fat is very bad for us. Fruit is very healthy for us but it does have natural sugar and too much of natural sugars is bad. Carbohydrates is very good for us but it does change to sugar in our bodies and too much is bad for us. Protein is very good for us but too much is bad for us. This list can go on and on. A well balanced diet and excercise has been proven many times to be the best way to stay fit and healthy. Follow the food pyramid and get off of the couch. The problem is that many people live in a microwave society and they want a simple and fast way to be healthy so they fall for fad diets that have serious health effects. They also want to beleive that they can eat all they want of their favorite foods and be healthy. Our bodies don't work that way. Our body needs grains, vegetables, fruit, dairy, protiens, fats, oils, and sugars. But we should not go beyond the recomended amounts for our body and lifestyle. Take care and God Bless. Love, The Oklahoma Tomcat http://joneshomestead.tripod.com/My blog: http://thelifeofanoklhahomatomcat.blogspot.com/My : jonesfamilyhomestead/--------I believe - That just because two people argue, it doesn't mean they don't love each other. And just because they don't argue, it doesn'tmean they do. - Celia Browne Wednesday, September 03, 2008 10:37 AM Re: [RFSL] Homemade Baby Formula Tomcat: Not to be a smart-mouth, but why would you say that 'sugar' is essential to the human body? It sure tastes good, but I'm not convinced it's essential. While I never finished my degree in nutrition (I studied to be a registered dietitian), I can tell you that sugar is a "simple" carbohydrate, of which some third world cultures eat NONE. (Traditional Alaskan Eskimos, for instance, who survive on a diet of whale blubber.) Before we became hunter-gatherers, our ancestors lived on mostly meat, especially in the winter. Fruits, vegetables and honey were eaten in season, and only when available. Grains were unheard of. All of these people survived quite well without refined sugar in their diet, providing there was ample foodstuff to prevent starvation. I'm not saying that all sugar or all carbs are bad...quite the contrary. I'm a big fan of fruit and I LOVE dairy products, but I try to keep my consumption to a reasonable amount and forgo the refined junk altogether. Another thing to note; the world's biggest diabetologist, (can't remember his name off the top of my head) has all of his patients on a high protein, VERY low carb diet--no fruits, grains, or legumes and limited vegetables only--and nothing else. He has been doing it for 40 years now and his patients have a much higher survival rate and w-a-y better BS control than your typical diabetic. Point is that all survive and actually thrive without even naturally occurring sugar in their diet, let alone refined sugar... I could never do that though. I love my fruit and veggies way too much to give them up, LOL! --Cee-- The Oklahoma Tomcat <jonesfamilyhomestead Sent: Wednesday, September 3, 2008 6:22:40 AMRe: [RFSL] Homemade Baby Formula Babies do need a little sugar. Sugar is essencial to the human body. The problem is kids and adults get sugar from lots of sources in the food we eat and some of us eat too much. Babies only have formula or breast milk. If a woman is breast feeding then their is no problem but a formula fed baby gets no sugar except in what is in the formula. Love, The Oklahoma Tomcat .. .. Messages in this topic (14) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 I went thru the same thing with vegetarianism. My blood sugar and blood pressure was out of control. Well, different things work for different people. :-)Cyndi In a message dated 9/8/2008 2:34:51 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, lady_celia writes: Love my legumes and beans and fruit...and can't/won't live without them! There are times when it does not always work perfectly, but I am much healthier and feel so much better with my diet today. Years ago I used to be vegetarian and have slowly returned to a more "natural" diet--including more meat--never realizing how much processed stuff I used to eat. (I thought if it was made of vegetable product and labeled organic, how bad can it be? Duh! It's still processed.) Anyway, being diabetic is like having a broken thermometer on your furnace...you never know what temp it will be today, LOL! Case in point; today my BS shot up to over 300 after eating brown rice and veggies with ginger beef. That rarely happens. <shrugs shoulders> I just drank a lot of water to dilute the carbs and took a long and vigorous walk. Within a 1/2 hour, I was back under 120. Works like a charm...at least for me, heehee. --Cee-- Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 yea, different things work for different people. My wife for the most part is a vegitarian. She can't eat regular store baught meat because of the injections and the grain that the animals are given. Her whole body will be in pain if she eats regular meats (non-organic). She can eat meat that comes from an organic animal but we don't have easy access to any that we can afford. Her blood sugar is normal and she does have much more energy since she lowered the amount of meat she eats. She has also lost weight since not eating lots of meat also. Love, The Oklahoma Tomcat http://joneshomestead.tripod.com/My blog: http://thelifeofanoklhahomatomcat.blogspot.com/My : jonesfamilyhomestead/--------I believe - That just because two people argue, it doesn't mean they don't love each other. And just because they don't argue, it doesn'tmean they do. - cyndikrall Wednesday, September 10, 2008 11:41 PM Re: [RFSL] Homemade Baby Formula I went thru the same thing with vegetarianism. My blood sugar and blood pressure was out of control. Well, different things work for different people. :-)Cyndi In a message dated 9/8/2008 2:34:51 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, lady_celia writes: Love my legumes and beans and fruit...and can't/won't live without them! There are times when it does not always work perfectly, but I am much healthier and feel so much better with my diet today. Years ago I used to be vegetarian and have slowly returned to a more "natural" diet--including more meat--never realizing how much processed stuff I used to eat. (I thought if it was made of vegetable product and labeled organic, how bad can it be? Duh! It's still processed.) Anyway, being diabetic is like having a broken thermometer on your furnace...you never know what temp it will be today, LOL! Case in point; today my BS shot up to over 300 after eating brown rice and veggies with ginger beef. That rarely happens. <shrugs shoulders> I just drank a lot of water to dilute the carbs and took a long and vigorous walk. Within a 1/2 hour, I was back under 120. Works like a charm...at least for me, heehee. --Cee-- Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 I've heard many people say the same thing, that they lost weight when they stopped eating meat. I gained 20 pounds. Go figure. :-)Cyndi In a message dated 9/13/2008 3:51:59 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jonesfamilyhomestead writes: yea, different things work for different people. My wife for the most part is a vegitarian. She can't eat regular store baught meat because of the injections and the grain that the animals are given. Her whole body will be in pain if she eats regular meats (non-organic). She can eat meat that comes from an organic animal but we don't have easy access to any that we can afford. Her blood sugar is normal and she does have much more energy since she lowered the amount of meat she eats. She has also lost weight since not eating lots of meat also. Love, The Oklahoma Tomcat http://joneshomestead.tripod.com/My blog: http://thelifeofanoklhahomatomcat.blogspot.com/My : jonesfamilyhomestead/ Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 well, that is like some people say they just look at a candy bar and gain 30 lbs. but yet some people can eat chocolate and not gain anything. My wife gains weight easily but I have to actually work to gain weight. Infact, I had trouble getting into the Navy because I was underweight. Love, The Oklahoma Tomcat http://joneshomestead.tripod.com/My blog: http://thelifeofanoklhahomatomcat.blogspot.com/My : jonesfamilyhomestead/--------I believe - That just because two people argue, it doesn't mean they don't love each other. And just because they don't argue, it doesn'tmean they do. - cyndikrall Sunday, September 14, 2008 10:54 PM Re: [RFSL] Homemade Baby Formula I've heard many people say the same thing, that they lost weight when they stopped eating meat. I gained 20 pounds. Go figure. :-)Cyndi In a message dated 9/13/2008 3:51:59 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jonesfamilyhomestead writes: yea, different things work for different people. My wife for the most part is a vegitarian. She can't eat regular store baught meat because of the injections and the grain that the animals are given. Her whole body will be in pain if she eats regular meats (non-organic). She can eat meat that comes from an organic animal but we don't have easy access to any that we can afford. Her blood sugar is normal and she does have much more energy since she lowered the amount of meat she eats. She has also lost weight since not eating lots of meat also. Love, The Oklahoma Tomcat http://joneshomestead.tripod.com/My blog: http://thelifeofanoklhahomatomcat.blogspot.com/My : jonesfamilyhomestead/ Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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