Guest guest Posted August 9, 2006 Report Share Posted August 9, 2006 Hello all, I'm wondering about people's experiences with both. More specifically, I enetered this realm as a teen thru NA spirituality, initially sun bear style, but quickly becoming more serious and traditional. Since then I've become much more of a journeyman, although my ritual foundations still rest in those zones. I've had a pipe, nothing ceremonial, just a pipe of pipestone and an uncut block. Recently I found a bison fetish that is glorious and guards the door to my home. It is a warm and potent piece. Knowing much of its NA significance to various groups and tribes, I thought I'd look in Love is in the Earth and Book of Stones, but both sources are strangely scared of the stone, saying don't work with it, or don't carry it. Seems rather lamely pc to me, but I wonder what your experiences are. With moldavite, the Book of Stones recommends it constantly, and then I saw Simmons book on it and read a bit. I'm aware of its origins and rarity, but I wonder what experiences people have had. It's a little pricey, not too bad, and my local crystal shop has a bunch of small pieces, but ebay seems to have a fair amount available too, altho the prices vary widely. Feedback on either or both would be appreciated. On a third note, going back a couple months to discussion of mining and of diamonds, I'd like to offer an intuitive sense of the stone. We often look for traditional understandings of crystals and stones in order to guide us in our practices, and that makes sense, especially because we're working with geological creations. However, we have to remember that the work we do must ultimately return to the present community, whether in terms of personal interactions, smaller groups or larger earth healing, and so must also understand what role stones play in the contemporary world. With the horrifying abuses of diamond mining, not so much to the stones, but to the miners; then the horrifying business practices of marketing stones with monopolies and insanely inflated costs, which certainly does affect the stones' vibrations; and finally with what diamonds represent in modern western cultures- extreme excess, materialism and ego-filled manifestations of wealth based power; with all these elements at play, I'm pretty repulsed by diamonds; it's an actual physical reaction. It's not the stones fault, of course, but if a power or manufacturing plant makes a lake toxic, I'm certainly going to stay away. I feel like that with diamonds as well. Thoughts? Cheers, Dan Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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