Guest guest Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 When we are children we accept so much of the world around us without questioning. Our exposure to our environment is not enough for us to understand if something untoward happens within our habitat. The older we grow though the more we realize that certain things, people and experiences do not fit into the pattern of the environment that we are living within. So as a child we could and possible have been exposed to a lot of happenings and experience that we would have then taken on board without batting an eye. How many times did we see, feel, hear and experience out of the normal everyday stuff that we would not take for granted now, and just took it on board, and then promptly forgot it. I wish I knew, I bet that a lot of things happened to me, and I just reacted towards them as I would react to my mother telling me to come to the dinner table and come and meet the lady from upstairs etc. So when I do recall some specific experiences I feel exuberant, here is something that is uniquely mine and I can claim it and know it now for what it is, as I now have some wisdom to look back and understand what it was that was happening. I could also very easily rue my actions for what I did with my experience, but I was a child, and as a child I acted in the normal way we would react when something we did not like happened to us…I wanted it to stop. I was at the time going to the High School, and was pre-puberty, so that puts me at the age of 12years. I was a late starter, but I feel this was the lead up to my puberty. My mother worked as did my step-father, so we, the children had certain chores to do every morning. Mine was to clean and get the fire ready for the evening and to peel the potatoes for the evening meal. I would then get my breakfast, get washed and then dressed. Make sure I had my school stuff correct and leaving the house make sure the door was locked. I normally walked the two miles to school, and was normally out of the house by 8am to be at school in plenty of time for the 9am start. Now getting up and doing all that I was doing was at least a two hour job even before I walked out of the door. Then I would be half way to school and suddenly find myself back in bed and just waking up. To say the least, I was extremely annoyed. I then had to get up and repeat everything I had just done. The fire, the potatoes, the breakfast, getting washed and dressed, getting my school bag ready and going out again and walking at least another mile on top of what I had already done. I know now what was happening. But then I took it as just another horrible but normal living experience something that everyone went through. In fact I was so convinced of this that I did not mention it to anyone, not my mother or my best friends. But I was getting so tired of doing all of this twice…it was a four to five hours of work everyday for me plus the rest of the day. Needless to say, I did have to do it twice, the chores the getting ready for school, it was not by any miracle done by the second time I got of bed. Now of course I would be ecstatic to think I was walking-out-of body, and doing all that physical stuff…but now I understand it better. Then I was ready to be committed, I was very depressed and very tired. Of course I put a stop to it. I got as I said very tired and depressed. I refused to get up in the morning and have to work twice as hard and somehow by my state of feeling and my body hormones my higher conscience got the message, and after approximately six months of out of body walking it stopped. It did come back, but only periodically. I have tried to figure out what prerequisites it needs, but after looking very carefully around the times it has happened nothing sets a pattern. So I have nothing on which I can work to bring about my out-of-body walking episodes again. The second time it happened, that was a total out of body physical experience and not just an astral experience, was when I was living in Arizona, as far away as you could get from Scotland. I put the year around 1992-1993, and not significant for anything…except of course it was darn hot as usual. I had gone for a nap after college (could it be when I am learning?) and felt a little hungry. So getting out of bed I went down the stairs, put on the kitchen light, opened the fridge door and reached inside for a piece of deli meat. I rolled it up in my hand and started up the stairs again, with one hand on the metal railing and taking a bite of the meat which was in my right hand. As I took the bite and started to chew, I found myself in bed with my hand at my mouth and me trying to chew a non-existent piece of meat. My hand was still curled as though it was holding the meat, and I was awe struck. To this day I could kick myself, because instead of getting up and checking to see if anything had been disturbed down stairs, I just thought about it for a while then worked a math problem in my head and just fell asleep. I just should have known better, but as yet I was not on my spiritual journey. And that has to be one of my most lamest excuses.. Since then I have had quite a few out-of-body experiences. All different and all without knowledge that they where coming. I have visited friends, done healings, gone exploring homes I know, even tried to frighten my cat and tried walking through doors, and yes I did, made me very excited when I did so. The proof though is in the eating of the pudding. I can only relate to you that I have done this things. I have been told by others that they have too, and I do believe them. I also know that each experience is different, but authentic to that person. All I can say is, don't ever be afraid when it happens, as you might just stop it from happing again, and that would be such a shame. Get into the fun of it and enjoy. My believe is that you can't be hurt, if walking through doors did not hurt me, then what can. Believe that you are protected. Your guides/angels are always with you, and of course your belief in yourself and your connection to the divine…believe in them and yourself and happy journeying. Walk in Light Rosie ------------------ www.OneBigCircle.Org .... 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Guest guest Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 I always wondered if any one else out their had those things happen to them. I find myself in the kitchen loading the dishwasher at 3 in the morning,washing clothes and many other strange things that I do not even remember doing. I even have e-maled people. LOL No telling what I have said in the e-mails. I have also awaken in the night while I thought that I was sorting mail. Imagine that? Well I am blonde, but intelligent. So I just laughed and told my mate...well I guess it is because I am blonde. ha ha Kandy --- jaffacakey2003 <gaynor.james wrote: > When we are children we accept so much of the world > around us > without questioning. Our exposure to our > environment is not enough > for us to understand if something untoward happens > within our > habitat. > > The older we grow though the more we realize that > certain things, > people and experiences do not fit into the pattern > of the > environment that we are living within. > So as a child we could and possible have been > exposed to a lot of > happenings and experience that we would have then > taken on board > without batting an eye. > > How many times did we see, feel, hear and experience > out of the > normal everyday stuff that we would not take for > granted now, and > just took it on board, and then promptly forgot it. > I wish I knew, I bet that a lot of things happened > to me, and I just > reacted towards them as I would react to my mother > telling me to > come to the dinner table and come and meet the lady > from upstairs > etc. > > So when I do recall some specific experiences I feel > exuberant, here > is something that is uniquely mine and I can claim > it and know it > now for what it is, as I now have some wisdom to > look back and > understand what it was that was happening. > I could also very easily rue my actions for what I > did with my > experience, but I was a child, and as a child I > acted in the normal > way we would react when something we did not like > happened to us…I > wanted it to stop. > > I was at the time going to the High School, and was > pre-puberty, so > that puts me at the age of 12years. I was a late > starter, but I > feel this was the lead up to my puberty. > My mother worked as did my step-father, so we, the > children had > certain chores to do every morning. Mine was to > clean and get the > fire ready for the evening and to peel the potatoes > for the evening > meal. I would then get my breakfast, get washed and > then dressed. > Make sure I had my school stuff correct and leaving > the house make > sure the door was locked. > I normally walked the two miles to school, and was > normally out of > the house by 8am to be at school in plenty of time > for the 9am start. > > Now getting up and doing all that I was doing was at > least a two > hour job even before I walked out of the door. Then > I would be half > way to school and suddenly find myself back in bed > and just waking > up. > To say the least, I was extremely annoyed. I then > had to get up and > repeat everything I had just done. The fire, the > potatoes, the > breakfast, getting washed and dressed, getting my > school bag ready > and going out again and walking at least another > mile on top of what > I had already done. > > I know now what was happening. But then I took it > as just another > horrible but normal living experience something that > everyone went > through. In fact I was so convinced of this that I > did not mention > it to anyone, not my mother or my best friends. > > But I was getting so tired of doing all of this > twice…it was a four > to five hours of work everyday for me plus the rest > of the day. > Needless to say, I did have to do it twice, the > chores the getting > ready for school, it was not by any miracle done by > the second time > I got of bed. > Now of course I would be ecstatic to think I was > walking-out-of > body, and doing all that physical stuff…but now I > understand it > better. Then I was ready to be committed, I was > very depressed and > very tired. > > Of course I put a stop to it. I got as I said very > tired and > depressed. I refused to get up in the morning and > have to work > twice as hard and somehow by my state of feeling and > my body > hormones my higher conscience got the message, and > after > approximately six months of out of body walking it > stopped. > > It did come back, but only periodically. > I have tried to figure out what prerequisites it > needs, but after > looking very carefully around the times it has > happened nothing sets > a pattern. So I have nothing on which I can work to > bring about my > out-of-body walking episodes again. > > > The second time it happened, that was a total out of > body physical > experience and not just an astral experience, was > when I was living > in Arizona, as far away as you could get from > Scotland. I put the > year around 1992-1993, and not significant for > anything…except of > course it was darn hot as usual. > I had gone for a nap after college (could it be when > I am learning?) > and felt a little hungry. So getting out of bed I > went down the > stairs, put on the kitchen light, opened the fridge > door and reached > inside for a piece of deli meat. I rolled it up in > my hand and > started up the stairs again, with one hand on the > metal railing and > taking a bite of the meat which was in my right > hand. As I took the > bite and started to chew, I found myself in bed with > my hand at my > mouth and me trying to chew a non-existent piece of > meat. My hand > was still curled as though it was holding the meat, > and I was awe > struck. > > To this day I could kick myself, because instead of > getting up and > checking to see if anything had been disturbed down > stairs, I just > thought about it for a while then worked a math > problem in my head > and just fell asleep. I just should have known > better, but as yet I > was not on my spiritual journey. And that has to be > one of my most > lamest excuses.. > > Since then I have had quite a few out-of-body > experiences. All > different and all without knowledge that they where > coming. > I have visited friends, done healings, gone > exploring homes I know, > even tried to frighten my cat and tried walking > through doors, and > yes I did, made me very excited when I did so. > The proof though is in the eating of the pudding. I > can only relate > to you that I have done this things. I have been > told by others > that they have too, and I do believe them. I also > know that each > experience is different, but authentic to that > person. > > All I can say is, don't ever be afraid when it > happens, as you might > just stop it from happing again, and that would be > such a shame. > Get into the fun of it and enjoy. My believe is > that you can't be > hurt, if walking through doors did not hurt me, then > what can. > Believe that you are protected. Your guides/angels > are always with > you, and of course your belief in yourself and your > connection === message truncated === ______________________________\ ____ Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents./mailbeta/features_spam.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 between 1-3 am is the liver hours. Bill and Kandy Schaeffer Byars <williamandkandyce Sunday, March 25, 2007 4:56:14 PM Re: ~ Out - Of - Body ~ (By Rosie) I always wondered if any one else out their had those things happen to them. I find myself in the kitchen loading the dishwasher at 3 in the morning,washing clothes and many other strange things that I do not even remember doing. I even have e-maled people. LOL No telling what I have said in the e-mails. I have also awaken in the night while I thought that I was sorting mail. Imagine that? Well I am blonde, but intelligent. So I just laughed and told my mate...well I guess it is because I am blonde. ha ha Kandy --- jaffacakey2003 <gaynor.james@ neuf.fr> wrote: > When we are children we accept so much of the world > around us > without questioning. Our exposure to our > environment is not enough > for us to understand if something untoward happens > within our > habitat. > > The older we grow though the more we realize that > certain things, > people and experiences do not fit into the pattern > of the > environment that we are living within. > So as a child we could and possible have been > exposed to a lot of > happenings and experience that we would have then > taken on board > without batting an eye. > > How many times did we see, feel, hear and experience > out of the > normal everyday stuff that we would not take for > granted now, and > just took it on board, and then promptly forgot it. > I wish I knew, I bet that a lot of things happened > to me, and I just > reacted towards them as I would react to my mother > telling me to > come to the dinner table and come and meet the lady > from upstairs > etc. > > So when I do recall some specific experiences I feel > exuberant, here > is something that is uniquely mine and I can claim > it and know it > now for what it is, as I now have some wisdom to > look back and > understand what it was that was happening. > I could also very easily rue my actions for what I > did with my > experience, but I was a child, and as a child I > acted in the normal > way we would react when something we did not like > happened to us…I > wanted it to stop. > > I was at the time going to the High School, and was > pre-puberty, so > that puts me at the age of 12years. I was a late > starter, but I > feel this was the lead up to my puberty. > My mother worked as did my step-father, so we, the > children had > certain chores to do every morning. Mine was to > clean and get the > fire ready for the evening and to peel the potatoes > for the evening > meal. I would then get my breakfast, get washed and > then dressed. > Make sure I had my school stuff correct and leaving > the house make > sure the door was locked. > I normally walked the two miles to school, and was > normally out of > the house by 8am to be at school in plenty of time > for the 9am start. > > Now getting up and doing all that I was doing was at > least a two > hour job even before I walked out of the door. Then > I would be half > way to school and suddenly find myself back in bed > and just waking > up. > To say the least, I was extremely annoyed. I then > had to get up and > repeat everything I had just done. The fire, the > potatoes, the > breakfast, getting washed and dressed, getting my > school bag ready > and going out again and walking at least another > mile on top of what > I had already done. > > I know now what was happening. But then I took it > as just another > horrible but normal living experience something that > everyone went > through. In fact I was so convinced of this that I > did not mention > it to anyone, not my mother or my best friends. > > But I was getting so tired of doing all of this > twice…it was a four > to five hours of work everyday for me plus the rest > of the day. > Needless to say, I did have to do it twice, the > chores the getting > ready for school, it was not by any miracle done by > the second time > I got of bed. > Now of course I would be ecstatic to think I was > walking-out- of > body, and doing all that physical stuff…but now I > understand it > better. Then I was ready to be committed, I was > very depressed and > very tired. > > Of course I put a stop to it. I got as I said very > tired and > depressed. I refused to get up in the morning and > have to work > twice as hard and somehow by my state of feeling and > my body > hormones my higher conscience got the message, and > after > approximately six months of out of body walking it > stopped. > > It did come back, but only periodically. > I have tried to figure out what prerequisites it > needs, but after > looking very carefully around the times it has > happened nothing sets > a pattern. So I have nothing on which I can work to > bring about my > out-of-body walking episodes again. > > > The second time it happened, that was a total out of > body physical > experience and not just an astral experience, was > when I was living > in Arizona, as far away as you could get from > Scotland. I put the > year around 1992-1993, and not significant for > anything…except of > course it was darn hot as usual. > I had gone for a nap after college (could it be when > I am learning?) > and felt a little hungry. So getting out of bed I > went down the > stairs, put on the kitchen light, opened the fridge > door and reached > inside for a piece of deli meat. I rolled it up in > my hand and > started up the stairs again, with one hand on the > metal railing and > taking a bite of the meat which was in my right > hand. As I took the > bite and started to chew, I found myself in bed with > my hand at my > mouth and me trying to chew a non-existent piece of > meat. My hand > was still curled as though it was holding the meat, > and I was awe > struck. > > To this day I could kick myself, because instead of > getting up and > checking to see if anything had been disturbed down > stairs, I just > thought about it for a while then worked a math > problem in my head > and just fell asleep. I just should have known > better, but as yet I > was not on my spiritual journey. And that has to be > one of my most > lamest excuses.. > > Since then I have had quite a few out-of-body > experiences. All > different and all without knowledge that they where > coming. > I have visited friends, done healings, gone > exploring homes I know, > even tried to frighten my cat and tried walking > through doors, and > yes I did, made me very excited when I did so. > The proof though is in the eating of the pudding. I > can only relate > to you that I have done this things. I have been > told by others > that they have too, and I do believe them. I also > know that each > experience is different, but authentic to that > person. > > All I can say is, don't ever be afraid when it > happens, as you might > just stop it from happing again, and that would be > such a shame. > Get into the fun of it and enjoy. My believe is > that you can't be > hurt, if walking through doors did not hurt me, then > what can. > Believe that you are protected. Your guides/angels > are always with > you, and of course your belief in yourself and your > connection === message truncated === ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Mail Beta. http://advision. webevents. / mailbeta/ features_ spam.html ______________________________\ ____ The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Search Marketing. http://searchmarketing./arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 One of you has a sleep disorder or parasomnia, the other one has a paranormal experience. They also call this temporal lobe phenomena. Too much electrical stimulation can produce this. Ikhan www.cidpusa.org , Bill and Kandy Schaeffer Byars <williamandkandyce wrote: > > I always wondered if any one else out their had those > things happen to them. > I find myself in the kitchen loading the dishwasher at > 3 in the morning,washing clothes and many other > strange things that I do not even remember doing. > I even have e-maled people. LOL No telling what I have > said in the e-mails. > I have also awaken in the night while I thought that I > was sorting mail. Imagine that? > Well I am blonde, but intelligent. So I just laughed > and told my mate...well I guess it is because I am > blonde. > ha ha > Kandy > > > > > --- jaffacakey2003 <gaynor.james wrote: > > > When we are children we accept so much of the world > > around us > > without questioning. Our exposure to our > > environment is not enough > > for us to understand if something untoward happens > > within our > > habitat. > > > > The older we grow though the more we realize that > > certain things, > > people and experiences do not fit into the pattern > > of the > > environment that we are living within. > > So as a child we could and possible have been > > exposed to a lot of > > happenings and experience that we would have then > > taken on board > > without batting an eye. > > > > How many times did we see, feel, hear and experience > > out of the > > normal everyday stuff that we would not take for > > granted now, and > > just took it on board, and then promptly forgot it. > > I wish I knew, I bet that a lot of things happened > > to me, and I just > > reacted towards them as I would react to my mother > > telling me to > > come to the dinner table and come and meet the lady > > from upstairs > > etc. > > > > So when I do recall some specific experiences I feel > > exuberant, here > > is something that is uniquely mine and I can claim > > it and know it > > now for what it is, as I now have some wisdom to > > look back and > > understand what it was that was happening. > > I could also very easily rue my actions for what I > > did with my > > experience, but I was a child, and as a child I > > acted in the normal > > way we would react when something we did not like > > happened to us…I > > wanted it to stop. > > > > I was at the time going to the High School, and was > > pre-puberty, so > > that puts me at the age of 12years. I was a late > > starter, but I > > feel this was the lead up to my puberty. > > My mother worked as did my step-father, so we, the > > children had > > certain chores to do every morning. Mine was to > > clean and get the > > fire ready for the evening and to peel the potatoes > > for the evening > > meal. I would then get my breakfast, get washed and > > then dressed. > > Make sure I had my school stuff correct and leaving > > the house make > > sure the door was locked. > > I normally walked the two miles to school, and was > > normally out of > > the house by 8am to be at school in plenty of time > > for the 9am start. > > > > Now getting up and doing all that I was doing was at > > least a two > > hour job even before I walked out of the door. Then > > I would be half > > way to school and suddenly find myself back in bed > > and just waking > > up. > > To say the least, I was extremely annoyed. I then > > had to get up and > > repeat everything I had just done. The fire, the > > potatoes, the > > breakfast, getting washed and dressed, getting my > > school bag ready > > and going out again and walking at least another > > mile on top of what > > I had already done. > > > > I know now what was happening. But then I took it > > as just another > > horrible but normal living experience something that > > everyone went > > through. In fact I was so convinced of this that I > > did not mention > > it to anyone, not my mother or my best friends. > > > > But I was getting so tired of doing all of this > > twice…it was a four > > to five hours of work everyday for me plus the rest > > of the day. > > Needless to say, I did have to do it twice, the > > chores the getting > > ready for school, it was not by any miracle done by > > the second time > > I got of bed. > > Now of course I would be ecstatic to think I was > > walking-out-of > > body, and doing all that physical stuff…but now I > > understand it > > better. Then I was ready to be committed, I was > > very depressed and > > very tired. > > > > Of course I put a stop to it. I got as I said very > > tired and > > depressed. I refused to get up in the morning and > > have to work > > twice as hard and somehow by my state of feeling and > > my body > > hormones my higher conscience got the message, and > > after > > approximately six months of out of body walking it > > stopped. > > > > It did come back, but only periodically. > > I have tried to figure out what prerequisites it > > needs, but after > > looking very carefully around the times it has > > happened nothing sets > > a pattern. So I have nothing on which I can work to > > bring about my > > out-of-body walking episodes again. > > > > > > The second time it happened, that was a total out of > > body physical > > experience and not just an astral experience, was > > when I was living > > in Arizona, as far away as you could get from > > Scotland. I put the > > year around 1992-1993, and not significant for > > anything…except of > > course it was darn hot as usual. > > I had gone for a nap after college (could it be when > > I am learning?) > > and felt a little hungry. So getting out of bed I > > went down the > > stairs, put on the kitchen light, opened the fridge > > door and reached > > inside for a piece of deli meat. I rolled it up in > > my hand and > > started up the stairs again, with one hand on the > > metal railing and > > taking a bite of the meat which was in my right > > hand. As I took the > > bite and started to chew, I found myself in bed with > > my hand at my > > mouth and me trying to chew a non-existent piece of > > meat. My hand > > was still curled as though it was holding the meat, > > and I was awe > > struck. > > > > To this day I could kick myself, because instead of > > getting up and > > checking to see if anything had been disturbed down > > stairs, I just > > thought about it for a while then worked a math > > problem in my head > > and just fell asleep. I just should have known > > better, but as yet I > > was not on my spiritual journey. And that has to be > > one of my most > > lamest excuses.. > > > > Since then I have had quite a few out-of-body > > experiences. All > > different and all without knowledge that they where > > coming. > > I have visited friends, done healings, gone > > exploring homes I know, > > even tried to frighten my cat and tried walking > > through doors, and > > yes I did, made me very excited when I did so. > > The proof though is in the eating of the pudding. I > > can only relate > > to you that I have done this things. I have been > > told by others > > that they have too, and I do believe them. I also > > know that each > > experience is different, but authentic to that > > person. > > > > All I can say is, don't ever be afraid when it > > happens, as you might > > just stop it from happing again, and that would be > > such a shame. > > Get into the fun of it and enjoy. My believe is > > that you can't be > > hurt, if walking through doors did not hurt me, then > > what can. > > Believe that you are protected. Your guides/angels > > are always with > > you, and of course your belief in yourself and your > > connection > === message truncated === > > > > > ____________________ ______________ > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. > Try the free Mail Beta. > http://advision.webevents./mailbeta/features_spam.html > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 When i was young-(pre puperty) i use to have dreams that i could fly anywhere i wanted and do things----they were really vivid -----e-xperiences. Once when i was about 8 i remember flying down+my street-then i went overseas--i woke up and went for a walk out side-everyone was comming up the street ( Comming home from work) i couldn't figure it out----i asked my mum and she said that i had been ill and was in bed asleep all day------to this day it baffled me- I believe i had a few out of body experiences when i was young and always wanted to astral project----- I am in my 50's now--when i was about 26 or so i bought a book on exercises to help develop the skill, and practice them religiously for some months then one night i remember standing at the end if my bed with a spirit being and then he\she pointed to the body on my bed and said " there she is " i must have snapped back in the body as i remember jumping about 2 ft off the bed,i sat up and looked around expecting it to still be there, but the room was silent-to this day i believe i was not dreaming.. it scared me so much -i didn't do the exercises again, i will do it again one day, i am now over my fear of being lost in the cosmos and have a better understanding of things. goldencougarwolf <nlring80962 wrote: between 1-3 am is the liver hours. Bill and Kandy Schaeffer Byars Sunday, March 25, 2007 4:56:14 PM Re: ~ Out - Of - Body ~ (By Rosie) I always wondered if any one else out their had those things happen to them. I find myself in the kitchen loading the dishwasher at 3 in the morning,washing clothes and many other strange things that I do not even remember doing. I even have e-maled people. LOL No telling what I have said in the e-mails. I have also awaken in the night while I thought that I was sorting mail. Imagine that? Well I am blonde, but intelligent. So I just laughed and told my mate...well I guess it is because I am blonde. ha ha Kandy --- jaffacakey2003 wrote: > When we are children we accept so much of the world > around us > without questioning. Our exposure to our > environment is not enough > for us to understand if something untoward happens > within our > habitat. > > The older we grow though the more we realize that > certain things, > people and experiences do not fit into the pattern > of the > environment that we are living within. > So as a child we could and possible have been > exposed to a lot of > happenings and experience that we would have then > taken on board > without batting an eye. > > How many times did we see, feel, hear and experience > out of the > normal everyday stuff that we would not take for > granted now, and > just took it on board, and then promptly forgot it. > I wish I knew, I bet that a lot of things happened > to me, and I just > reacted towards them as I would react to my mother > telling me to > come to the dinner table and come and meet the lady > from upstairs > etc. > > So when I do recall some specific experiences I feel > exuberant, here > is something that is uniquely mine and I can claim > it and know it > now for what it is, as I now have some wisdom to > look back and > understand what it was that was happening. > I could also very easily rue my actions for what I > did with my > experience, but I was a child, and as a child I > acted in the normal > way we would react when something we did not like > happened to us…I > wanted it to stop. > > I was at the time going to the High School, and was > pre-puberty, so > that puts me at the age of 12years. I was a late > starter, but I > feel this was the lead up to my puberty. > My mother worked as did my step-father, so we, the > children had > certain chores to do every morning. Mine was to > clean and get the > fire ready for the evening and to peel the potatoes > for the evening > meal. I would then get my breakfast, get washed and > then dressed. > Make sure I had my school stuff correct and leaving > the house make > sure the door was locked. > I normally walked the two miles to school, and was > normally out of > the house by 8am to be at school in plenty of time > for the 9am start. > > Now getting up and doing all that I was doing was at > least a two > hour job even before I walked out of the door. Then > I would be half > way to school and suddenly find myself back in bed > and just waking > up. > To say the least, I was extremely annoyed. I then > had to get up and > repeat everything I had just done. The fire, the > potatoes, the > breakfast, getting washed and dressed, getting my > school bag ready > and going out again and walking at least another > mile on top of what > I had already done. > > I know now what was happening. But then I took it > as just another > horrible but normal living experience something that > everyone went > through. In fact I was so convinced of this that I > did not mention > it to anyone, not my mother or my best friends. > > But I was getting so tired of doing all of this > twice…it was a four > to five hours of work everyday for me plus the rest > of the day. > Needless to say, I did have to do it twice, the > chores the getting > ready for school, it was not by any miracle done by > the second time > I got of bed. > Now of course I would be ecstatic to think I was > walking-out- of > body, and doing all that physical stuff…but now I > understand it > better. Then I was ready to be committed, I was > very depressed and > very tired. > > Of course I put a stop to it. I got as I said very > tired and > depressed. I refused to get up in the morning and > have to work > twice as hard and somehow by my state of feeling and > my body > hormones my higher conscience got the message, and > after > approximately six months of out of body walking it > stopped. > > It did come back, but only periodically. > I have tried to figure out what prerequisites it > needs, but after > looking very carefully around the times it has > happened nothing sets > a pattern. So I have nothing on which I can work to > bring about my > out-of-body walking episodes again. > > > The second time it happened, that was a total out of > body physical > experience and not just an astral experience, was > when I was living > in Arizona, as far away as you could get from > Scotland. I put the > year around 1992-1993, and not significant for > anything…except of > course it was darn hot as usual. > I had gone for a nap after college (could it be when > I am learning?) > and felt a little hungry. So getting out of bed I > went down the > stairs, put on the kitchen light, opened the fridge > door and reached > inside for a piece of deli meat. I rolled it up in > my hand and > started up the stairs again, with one hand on the > metal railing and > taking a bite of the meat which was in my right > hand. As I took the > bite and started to chew, I found myself in bed with > my hand at my > mouth and me trying to chew a non-existent piece of > meat. My hand > was still curled as though it was holding the meat, > and I was awe > struck. > > To this day I could kick myself, because instead of > getting up and > checking to see if anything had been disturbed down > stairs, I just > thought about it for a while then worked a math > problem in my head > and just fell asleep. I just should have known > better, but as yet I > was not on my spiritual journey. And that has to be > one of my most > lamest excuses.. > > Since then I have had quite a few out-of-body > experiences. All > different and all without knowledge that they where > coming. > I have visited friends, done healings, gone > exploring homes I know, > even tried to frighten my cat and tried walking > through doors, and > yes I did, made me very excited when I did so. > The proof though is in the eating of the pudding. I > can only relate > to you that I have done this things. I have been > told by others > that they have too, and I do believe them. I also > know that each > experience is different, but authentic to that > person. > > All I can say is, don't ever be afraid when it > happens, as you might > just stop it from happing again, and that would be > such a shame. > Get into the fun of it and enjoy. My believe is > that you can't be > hurt, if walking through doors did not hurt me, then > what can. > Believe that you are protected. Your guides/angels > are always with > you, and of course your belief in yourself and your > connection === message truncated === ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Mail Beta. http://advision. webevents. / mailbeta/ features_ spam.html ______________________________\ ____ The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Search Marketing. http://searchmarketing./arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 wow i used to have dreams like that but i just thought thats all they were !! cheryl bullock <cooee.shari wrote: When i was young-(pre puperty) i use to have dreams that i could fly anywhere i wanted and do things----they were really vivid -----e-xperiences. Once when i was about 8 i remember flying down+my street-then i went overseas--i woke up and went for a walk out side-everyone was comming up the street ( Comming home from work) i couldn't figure it out----i asked my mum and she said that i had been ill and was in bed asleep all day------to this day it baffled me- I believe i had a few out of body experiences when i was young and always wanted to astral project----- I am in my 50's now--when i was about 26 or so i bought a book on exercises to help develop the skill, and practice them religiously for some months then one night i remember standing at the end if my bed with a spirit being and then he\she pointed to the body on my bed and said " there she is " i must have snapped back in the body as i remember jumping about 2 ft off the bed,i sat up and looked around expecting it to still be there, but the room was silent-to this day i believe i was not dreaming.. it scared me so much -i didn't do the exercises again, i will do it again one day, i am now over my fear of being lost in the cosmos and have a better understanding of things. goldencougarwolf <nlring80962 wrote: between 1-3 am is the liver hours. Bill and Kandy Schaeffer Byars Sunday, March 25, 2007 4:56:14 PM Re: ~ Out - Of - Body ~ (By Rosie) I always wondered if any one else out their had those things happen to them. I find myself in the kitchen loading the dishwasher at 3 in the morning,washing clothes and many other strange things that I do not even remember doing. I even have e-maled people. LOL No telling what I have said in the e-mails. I have also awaken in the night while I thought that I was sorting mail. Imagine that? Well I am blonde, but intelligent. So I just laughed and told my mate...well I guess it is because I am blonde. ha ha Kandy --- jaffacakey2003 wrote: > When we are children we accept so much of the world > around us > without questioning. Our exposure to our > environment is not enough > for us to understand if something untoward happens > within our > habitat. > > The older we grow though the more we realize that > certain things, > people and experiences do not fit into the pattern > of the > environment that we are living within. > So as a child we could and possible have been > exposed to a lot of > happenings and experience that we would have then > taken on board > without batting an eye. > > How many times did we see, feel, hear and experience > out of the > normal everyday stuff that we would not take for > granted now, and > just took it on board, and then promptly forgot it. > I wish I knew, I bet that a lot of things happened > to me, and I just > reacted towards them as I would react to my mother > telling me to > come to the dinner table and come and meet the lady > from upstairs > etc. > > So when I do recall some specific experiences I feel > exuberant, here > is something that is uniquely mine and I can claim > it and know it > now for what it is, as I now have some wisdom to > look back and > understand what it was that was happening. > I could also very easily rue my actions for what I > did with my > experience, but I was a child, and as a child I > acted in the normal > way we would react when something we did not like > happened to us…I > wanted it to stop. > > I was at the time going to the High School, and was > pre-puberty, so > that puts me at the age of 12years. I was a late > starter, but I > feel this was the lead up to my puberty. > My mother worked as did my step-father, so we, the > children had > certain chores to do every morning. Mine was to > clean and get the > fire ready for the evening and to peel the potatoes > for the evening > meal. I would then get my breakfast, get washed and > then dressed. > Make sure I had my school stuff correct and leaving > the house make > sure the door was locked. > I normally walked the two miles to school, and was > normally out of > the house by 8am to be at school in plenty of time > for the 9am start. > > Now getting up and doing all that I was doing was at > least a two > hour job even before I walked out of the door. Then > I would be half > way to school and suddenly find myself back in bed > and just waking > up. > To say the least, I was extremely annoyed. I then > had to get up and > repeat everything I had just done. The fire, the > potatoes, the > breakfast, getting washed and dressed, getting my > school bag ready > and going out again and walking at least another > mile on top of what > I had already done. > > I know now what was happening. But then I took it > as just another > horrible but normal living experience something that > everyone went > through. In fact I was so convinced of this that I > did not mention > it to anyone, not my mother or my best friends. > > But I was getting so tired of doing all of this > twice…it was a four > to five hours of work everyday for me plus the rest > of the day. > Needless to say, I did have to do it twice, the > chores the getting > ready for school, it was not by any miracle done by > the second time > I got of bed. > Now of course I would be ecstatic to think I was > walking-out- of > body, and doing all that physical stuff…but now I > understand it > better. Then I was ready to be committed, I was > very depressed and > very tired. > > Of course I put a stop to it. I got as I said very > tired and > depressed. I refused to get up in the morning and > have to work > twice as hard and somehow by my state of feeling and > my body > hormones my higher conscience got the message, and > after > approximately six months of out of body walking it > stopped. > > It did come back, but only periodically. > I have tried to figure out what prerequisites it > needs, but after > looking very carefully around the times it has > happened nothing sets > a pattern. So I have nothing on which I can work to > bring about my > out-of-body walking episodes again. > > > The second time it happened, that was a total out of > body physical > experience and not just an astral experience, was > when I was living > in Arizona, as far away as you could get from > Scotland. I put the > year around 1992-1993, and not significant for > anything…except of > course it was darn hot as usual. > I had gone for a nap after college (could it be when > I am learning?) > and felt a little hungry. So getting out of bed I > went down the > stairs, put on the kitchen light, opened the fridge > door and reached > inside for a piece of deli meat. I rolled it up in > my hand and > started up the stairs again, with one hand on the > metal railing and > taking a bite of the meat which was in my right > hand. As I took the > bite and started to chew, I found myself in bed with > my hand at my > mouth and me trying to chew a non-existent piece of > meat. My hand > was still curled as though it was holding the meat, > and I was awe > struck. > > To this day I could kick myself, because instead of > getting up and > checking to see if anything had been disturbed down > stairs, I just > thought about it for a while then worked a math > problem in my head > and just fell asleep. I just should have known > better, but as yet I > was not on my spiritual journey. And that has to be > one of my most > lamest excuses.. > > Since then I have had quite a few out-of-body > experiences. All > different and all without knowledge that they where > coming. > I have visited friends, done healings, gone > exploring homes I know, > even tried to frighten my cat and tried walking > through doors, and > yes I did, made me very excited when I did so. > The proof though is in the eating of the pudding. I > can only relate > to you that I have done this things. I have been > told by others > that they have too, and I do believe them. I also > know that each > experience is different, but authentic to that > person. > > All I can say is, don't ever be afraid when it > happens, as you might > just stop it from happing again, and that would be > such a shame. > Get into the fun of it and enjoy. My believe is > that you can't be > hurt, if walking through doors did not hurt me, then > what can. > Believe that you are protected. Your guides/angels > are always with > you, and of course your belief in yourself and your > connection === message truncated === ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Mail Beta. http://advision. webevents. / mailbeta/ features_ spam.html ________ The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Search Marketing. http://searchmarketing./arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 I have dreams like this from time to time and they always leave me with a wonderful feeling. When I'm flying (in my dream) it seems so normal and natural - I love those dreams. This is the first time I've heard that other people have those dreams too. Cool! --- Mr william crenshaw <bassgood wrote: > wow i used to have dreams like that but i just > thought thats all they were !! > > > > cheryl bullock <cooee.shari wrote: > When i was young-(pre puperty) i use to > have dreams that i could fly anywhere i wanted and > do things----they were really vivid > -----e-xperiences. Once when i was about 8 i > remember flying down+my street-then i went > overseas--i woke up and went for a walk out > side-everyone was comming up the street ( Comming > home from work) i couldn't figure it out----i asked > my mum and she said that i had been ill and was in > bed asleep all day------to this day it baffled me- I > believe i had a few out of body experiences when i > was young and always wanted to astral project----- I > am in my 50's now--when i was about 26 or so i > bought a book on exercises to help develop the > skill, and practice them religiously for some months > then one night i remember standing at the end if my > bed with a spirit being and then he\she pointed to > the body on my bed and said " there she is " i must > have snapped back in the body as i remember jumping > about 2 ft off the bed,i sat up and looked around > expecting it to still be there, but the room was > silent-to this day i believe i was not dreaming.. it > scared me so much -i didn't do the exercises again, > i will do it again one day, i am now over my fear of > being lost in the cosmos and have a better > understanding of things. > goldencougarwolf <nlring80962 wrote: > between 1-3 am is the liver hours. > > > Bill and Kandy Schaeffer Byars > > Sunday, March 25, 2007 4:56:14 PM > Re: ~ Out - Of - Body > ~ (By Rosie) > > I always wondered if any one else out their had > those > things happen to them. > I find myself in the kitchen loading the dishwasher > at > 3 in the morning,washing clothes and many other > strange things that I do not even remember doing. > I even have e-maled people. LOL No telling what I > have > said in the e-mails. > I have also awaken in the night while I thought that > I > was sorting mail. Imagine that? > Well I am blonde, but intelligent. So I just laughed > and told my mate...well I guess it is because I am > blonde. > ha ha > Kandy > > --- jaffacakey2003 wrote: > > > When we are children we accept so much of the > world > > around us > > without questioning. Our exposure to our > > environment is not enough > > for us to understand if something untoward happens > > within our > > habitat. > > > > The older we grow though the more we realize that > > certain things, > > people and experiences do not fit into the pattern > > of the > > environment that we are living within. > > So as a child we could and possible have been > > exposed to a lot of > > happenings and experience that we would have then > > taken on board > > without batting an eye. > > > > How many times did we see, feel, hear and > experience > > out of the > > normal everyday stuff that we would not take for > > granted now, and > > just took it on board, and then promptly forgot > it. > > I wish I knew, I bet that a lot of things happened > > to me, and I just > > reacted towards them as I would react to my mother > > telling me to > > come to the dinner table and come and meet the > lady > > from upstairs > > etc. > > > > So when I do recall some specific experiences I > feel > > exuberant, here > > is something that is uniquely mine and I can claim > > it and know it > > now for what it is, as I now have some wisdom to > > look back and > > understand what it was that was happening. > > I could also very easily rue my actions for what I > > did with my > > experience, but I was a child, and as a child I > > acted in the normal > > way we would react when something we did not like > > happened to us…I > > wanted it to stop. > > > > I was at the time going to the High School, and > was > > pre-puberty, so > > that puts me at the age of 12years. I was a late > > starter, but I > > feel this was the lead up to my puberty. > > My mother worked as did my step-father, so we, the > > children had > > certain chores to do every morning. Mine was to > > clean and get the > > fire ready for the evening and to peel the > potatoes > > for the evening > > meal. I would then get my breakfast, get washed > and > > then dressed. > > Make sure I had my school stuff correct and > leaving > > the house make > > sure the door was locked. > > I normally walked the two miles to school, and was > > normally out of > > the house by 8am to be at school in plenty of time > > for the 9am start. > > > > Now getting up and doing all that I was doing was > at > > least a two > > hour job even before I walked out of the door. > Then > > I would be half > > way to school and suddenly find myself back in bed > > and just waking > > up. > > To say the least, I was extremely annoyed. I then > > had to get up and > > repeat everything I had just done. The fire, the > > potatoes, the > > breakfast, getting washed and dressed, getting my > > school bag ready > > and going out again and walking at least another > > mile on top of what > > I had already done. > > > > I know now what was happening. But then I took it > > as just another > > horrible but normal living experience something > that > > everyone went > > through. In fact I was so convinced of this that I > > did not mention > > it to anyone, not my mother or my best friends. > > > > But I was getting so tired of doing all of this > > twice…it was a four > > to five hours of work everyday for me plus the > rest > > of the day. > > Needless to say, I did have to do it twice, the > > chores the getting > > ready for school, it was not by any miracle done > by > > the second time > > I got of bed. > > Now of course I would be ecstatic to think I was > > walking-out- of > > body, and doing all that physical stuff…but now I > > understand it > > better. Then I was ready to be committed, I was > > very depressed and > > very tired. > > > > Of course I put a stop to it. I got as I said very > > tired and > > depressed. I refused to get up in the morning and > > have to work > > twice as hard and somehow by my state of feeling > and > > my body > > hormones my higher conscience got the message, and > > after > > approximately six months of out of body walking it > > stopped. > > > > It did come back, but only periodically. > > I have tried to figure out what prerequisites it > === message truncated === ______________________________\ ____ Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents./mailbeta/newmail_tools.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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