Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 My first reaction to this was to put up my guard. I didn't like them either. They seemed " dead " to have been messed with like that. Christine skygreen <skygreen wrote: There are some carved crystal wands that kind of creep me out at this site http://www.jyotisha.com/Healingcrystals.htm These are drilled and have gold rods or gemstones inserted in the bottom . I'm all for art and beauty but these do not seem to be a natural expression of the nature and mission of these actual crystals. the design and inserts seems imposed rather than brought forth from meditation with the crystals and stones . I have not carved crystals myself but have done woodcarving and ceramic work and in that work one often finds the design springs forth from the wood or clay. Peggy Jentoft -- Solarraven http://pjentoft.com/index.html Energy work, Nature & Spirituality,Mandala,Crystal Healing, Angels, Huna, fairies, mystic " skills & secrets " ,PSP presets,Reiki, http://invite.tribe.net/id/2dd3cd38-8e8c-405c-97ad-0f73a9767ceb Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 There are some carved crystal wands that kind of creep me out at this site http://www.jyotisha.com/Healingcrystals.htm These are drilled and have gold rods or gemstones inserted in the bottom . I'm all for art and beauty but these do not seem to be a natural expression of the nature and mission of these actual crystals. the design and inserts seems imposed rather than brought forth from meditation with the crystals and stones . I have not carved crystals myself but have done woodcarving and ceramic work and in that work one often finds the design springs forth from the wood or clay. Peggy Jentoft -- Solarraven http://pjentoft.com/index.html Energy work, Nature & Spirituality,Mandala,Crystal Healing, Angels, Huna, fairies, mystic " skills & secrets " ,PSP presets,Reiki, http://invite.tribe.net/id/2dd3cd38-8e8c-405c-97ad-0f73a9767ceb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 I looked at the crystals. I feel the same. The phrase gilding the lily comes to mind. They also advertise lab grown crystals. Are they good for anything? It would seen to me that the magic would rely on natural formation of crystals. These are er, well, fake to me. I think that just knowing they weren't natural would ruin them for me. Scarlet Debi , skygreen <skygreen wrote: > > There are some carved crystal wands that kind of creep me out at this > site http://www.jyotisha.com/Healingcrystals.htm > These are drilled and have gold rods or gemstones inserted in the > bottom . I'm all for art and beauty but these do not seem to be a > natural expression of the nature and mission of these actual crystals. > the design and inserts seems imposed rather than brought forth from > meditation with the crystals and stones . > I have not carved crystals myself but have done woodcarving and ceramic > work and in that work one often finds the design springs forth from > the wood or clay. > > Peggy Jentoft > > -- > Solarraven http://pjentoft.com/index.html > Energy work, Nature & Spirituality,Mandala,Crystal Healing, > Angels, Huna, fairies, mystic " skills & secrets " ,PSP presets,Reiki, > http://invite.tribe.net/id/2dd3cd38-8e8c-405c-97ad-0f73a9767ceb > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 Peggy My first reaction on seeing the top photo on that site, was of pain and much sadness. I felt like the crystal had been defeated, lost the will to live. As I scrolled down, they all felt pretty much the same, except for the 'rainbow' ones with small crystals trapped inside. Those, I could almost hear the little ones screaming to be let out. So sad. I really don't understand why people have to treat the stones this way, when their natural state carries such beauty and magnificence. In kindness Sarah , skygreen <skygreen wrote: > > There are some carved crystal wands that kind of creep me out at this > site http://www.jyotisha.com/Healingcrystals.htm > These are drilled and have gold rods or gemstones inserted in the > bottom . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 I too didn't like this, it made me feel sick, my stomach instantly felt ill These crystals are not happy. Why would someone have to drill them and insert something into a beautiful being of mother earth. Crystals are so helpful already they do not need ad on's. Blessings Charlene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 Hi Peggy, I am rather new to your group, though I have been working with crystals for many years, and listening to " rocks " my whole life. The feeling I got while looking at the photos on that site was one of extreme sadness... I have worked with stones that have been carved, mostly by hand, with reverence, and those carvings feel " freed " to me.. These drilled ones feel violated... I much prefer natural crystals to " milled " for healing... I have several gently shaped ones, that are beautiful, yet I usually chose the natural ones for actual use. Rhonda , skygreen <skygreen wrote: > > There are some carved crystal wands that kind of creep me out at this > site http://www.jyotisha.com/Healingcrystals.htm > These are drilled and have gold rods or gemstones inserted in the > bottom . I'm all for art and beauty but these do not seem to be a > natural expression of the nature and mission of these actual crystals. > the design and inserts seems imposed rather than brought forth from > meditation with the crystals and stones . > I have not carved crystals myself but have done woodcarving and ceramic > work and in that work one often finds the design springs forth from > the wood or clay. > > Peggy Jentoft > > -- > Solarraven http://pjentoft.com/index.html > Energy work, Nature & Spirituality,Mandala,Crystal Healing, > Angels, Huna, fairies, mystic " skills & secrets " ,PSP presets,Reiki, > http://invite.tribe.net/id/2dd3cd38-8e8c-405c-97ad-0f73a9767ceb > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 I can hear them crying... how cruel!!! Especially the ones with the little gems trapped inside! skygreen <skygreen wrote: There are some carved crystal wands that kind of creep me out at this site http://www.jyotisha.com/Healingcrystals.htm These are drilled and have gold rods or gemstones inserted in the bottom . I'm all for art and beauty but these do not seem to be a natural expression of the nature and mission of these actual crystals. the design and inserts seems imposed rather than brought forth from meditation with the crystals and stones . I have not carved crystals myself but have done woodcarving and ceramic work and in that work one often finds the design springs forth from the wood or clay. Peggy Jentoft -- Solarraven http://pjentoft.com/index.html Energy work, Nature & Spirituality,Mandala,Crystal Healing, Angels, Huna, fairies, mystic " skills & secrets " ,PSP presets,Reiki, http://invite.tribe.net/id/2dd3cd38-8e8c-405c-97ad-0f73a9767ceb Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Autos. TV dinner still cooling? Check out " Tonight's Picks " on TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 Glad that we all feel the same way. I got chills reading everyone's reaction. Not good " stones " Christine Charlene Miller <sypress_cashmere wrote: I too didn't like this, it made me feel sick, my stomach instantly felt ill These crystals are not happy. Why would someone have to drill them and insert something into a beautiful being of mother earth. Crystals are so helpful already they do not need ad on's. Blessings Charlene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 I second that Sarah, these on the link have been made specifically ro charge outstanding ammounts of money, did you see the prices! 1500, 800, WOW. It is sad, this is what happens when people try to exploit the crystals for huge profits, the energy i got was not good. It is sad. Peace and Light Mike princessbbf2 <pbbf2.groups wrote: Peggy My first reaction on seeing the top photo on that site, was of pain and much sadness. I felt like the crystal had been defeated, lost the will to live. As I scrolled down, they all felt pretty much the same, except for the 'rainbow' ones with small crystals trapped inside. Those, I could almost hear the little ones screaming to be let out. So sad. I really don't understand why people have to treat the stones this way, when their natural state carries such beauty and magnificence. In kindness Sarah , skygreen <skygreen wrote: > > There are some carved crystal wands that kind of creep me out at this > site http://www.jyotisha.com/Healingcrystals.htm > These are drilled and have gold rods or gemstones inserted in the > bottom . InnerVision Crystals http://www.innervisioncrystals.net InnerVision Crystals Ebay Store http://stores.ebay.com/InnerVision-Crystals Expand your Consciousness http://www.awakened1.blogspot.com Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Answers Food & Drink Q & A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 Hi all, i'm new too. Those crystals just seemed really unnatural & sad, quite fake. I can't understand why master cho kok suiy would ask them to do that crap to crystals...i certainly wouldn't want to be worked on with that vick - wych_magyk Int: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 4:20 AM [CrystalHW] Re: crystals with gold rod Hi Peggy, I am rather new to your group, though I have been working with crystals for many years, and listening to " rocks " my whole life. The feeling I got while looking at the photos on that site was one of extreme sadness... I have worked with stones that have been carved, mostly by hand, with reverence, and those carvings feel " freed " to me.. These drilled ones feel violated... I much prefer natural crystals to " milled " for healing... I have several gently shaped ones, that are beautiful, yet I usually chose the natural ones for actual use. Rhonda , skygreen <skygreen wrote: > > There are some carved crystal wands that kind of creep me out at this > site http://www.jyotisha.com/Healingcrystals.htm > These are drilled and have gold rods or gemstones inserted in the > bottom . I'm all for art and beauty but these do not seem to be a > natural expression of the nature and mission of these actual crystals. > the design and inserts seems imposed rather than brought forth from > meditation with the crystals and stones . > I have not carved crystals myself but have done woodcarving and ceramic > work and in that work one often finds the design springs forth from > the wood or clay. > > Peggy Jentoft > > -- > Solarraven http://pjentoft.com/index.html > Energy work, Nature & Spirituality,Mandala,Crystal Healing, > Angels, Huna, fairies, mystic " skills & secrets " ,PSP presets,Reiki, > http://invite.tribe.net/id/2dd3cd38-8e8c-405c-97ad-0f73a9767ceb > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.26/746 - Release 4/04/2007 1:09 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 Hi Fellow Friends and Crystal Lovers, I am not particularly fond of them either but....I have a mixed review. I ALWAYS prefer non-cut or polished crystals when they have a natural termination. Always. But so many of the crystal out there today are polished and fashioned. Those crystals are polished and fashioned and then drilled. When you polish and fashion crystals...even beads...you lose knowing where the c-axis of the crystals once termination lies, and therefore exactly where the stream of energy flow emits from. That is now left to your own perceptions. I am not sure what the ramifications are of " body piercing " a crystal. On the human body it does affect the acupuncture meridans it is aligned with. So if we pierce a hole through a bead (of crystal) what is the difference? Food for thought. I understand everyones first reaction...but that crystal they showed was already altered to become a Vogel cut crystal. It did not grow that way either. As for the price.....well anyone in the biz has a million stories to tell about " new age charletons " and their gold rush mentality. One thing I do know however is that it would take a lot to drill a crystal as such without running the risk of fractures and breaks. Diamond cutters are needed and it is an underwater process.....not a lay persons process. So I am sure on some level it cost them more to create. As I said personally I am not attracted to them............one would have to quantify their healing ability by measurement before making the great claims. Blessings and Love, Dawn Silver Jewels of the Lotus Crystal Healing Mike Eggleston <awakened_1_consciousness wrote: I second that Sarah, these on the link have been made specifically ro charge outstanding ammounts of money, did you see the prices! 1500, 800, WOW. It is sad, this is what happens when people try to exploit the crystals for huge profits, the energy i got was not good. It is sad. Peace and Light Mike princessbbf2 <pbbf2.groups wrote: Peggy My first reaction on seeing the top photo on that site, was of pain and much sadness. I felt like the crystal had been defeated, lost the will to live. As I scrolled down, they all felt pretty much the same, except for the 'rainbow' ones with small crystals trapped inside. Those, I could almost hear the little ones screaming to be let out. So sad. I really don't understand why people have to treat the stones this way, when their natural state carries such beauty and magnificence. In kindness Sarah , skygreen <skygreen wrote: > > There are some carved crystal wands that kind of creep me out at this > site http://www.jyotisha.com/Healingcrystals.htm > These are drilled and have gold rods or gemstones inserted in the > bottom . InnerVision Crystals http://www.innervisioncrystals.net InnerVision Crystals Ebay Store http://stores.ebay.com/InnerVision-Crystals Expand your Consciousness http://www.awakened1.blogspot.com Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Answers Food & Drink Q & A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2007 Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 Hi, I am new to this group. When I looked at these crystals I felt their sadness. I myself felt upset when I saw them and had to leave the site before I saw them all. It seemed like these crystals were desecrated. Their beauty was spoiled. Peace, Nan Fahey May today there be peace within you. May you trust God that you are exactly where you are meant to be. I believe that friends are quiet angels who lift us to our feet when our wings have trouble remembering how to fly. skygreen <skygreen " chw >> " Sunday, April 8, 2007 9:50:31 PM [CrystalHW] crystals with gold rod There are some carved crystal wands that kind of creep me out at this site http://www.jyotisha .com/Healingcrys tals.htm These are drilled and have gold rods or gemstones inserted in the bottom . I'm all for art and beauty but these do not seem to be a natural expression of the nature and mission of these actual crystals. the design and inserts seems imposed rather than brought forth from meditation with the crystals and stones . I have not carved crystals myself but have done woodcarving and ceramic work and in that work one often finds the design springs forth from the wood or clay. Peggy Jentoft -- Solarraven http://pjentoft. com/index. html Energy work, Nature & Spirituality, Mandala,Crystal Healing, Angels, Huna, fairies, mystic " skills & secrets " ,PSP presets,Reiki, http://invite. tribe.net/ id/2dd3cd38- 8e8c-405c- 97ad-0f73a9767ce b ______________________________\ ____ Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green Center. http://autos./green_center/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2007 Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 Hi all I too went and looked at these crystals and almost cried. I also picked up that there are being use for negative purposes and not for 'good'. I dont suppose it would do any good to contact the person who made them and ask them why they did this to these beautiful crystals without the crystals consent. I also picked up that not only are they being used for negative purposes but it was also to increase their value in money. The amounts of money that this person is charging is outrageous. Blessings to all Sharon,Merlin,Missy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2007 Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 > > > > There are some carved crystal wands that kind of creep me out at > this > > Later I went back and looked at the rest of the site and there are other pages of crystals some of which seem even more abused to me.I'm not sure why these effect me like this I've seen many carved crystals that do seem harmonious and positive not sure what the difference is. I wish there were something we could do but I got that even sending the crystal healing energy would not be accepted because if one helped ease the pain one might make the crystals more sell able and make the problem worse. I'm not opposed to all carving. Sometimes its part of the purpose of the crystal but these do not seem to have been made with the consent of the stones and or with positive awareness and connection. Supposedly these and some pendants and Mala on other page were made with spiritual intention but it sure does not resonate as a blessing to me. Perhaps strangely I recall going to museum exhibitions of work from Fabrege' and Tiffany which included carved and ornamented crystal as gems which were in some ways similar or made for more mundane purposes , pens baby rattles boxes etc. and those did not have the dead or negative energy . Even though there was no spiritual purpose in the making of those pieces they seemed positive in energy and awareness perhaps because they were created with respectful attention and intention. Peggy Jentoft -- Solarraven http://pjentoft.com/index.html Energy work, Nature & Spirituality,Mandala,Crystal Healing, Angels, Huna, fairies, mystic " skills & secrets " ,PSP presets,Reiki, http://invite.tribe.net/id/2dd3cd38-8e8c-405c-97ad-0f73a9767ceb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2007 Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 Peggy- " Later I went back and looked at the rest of the site and there are other pages of crystals some of which seem even more abused to me. " You're braver than me!!! I couldn't bring myself to look at the other pages - one was almost more than I could handle! " I wish there were something we could do but I got that even sending the crystal healing energy would not be accepted because if one helped ease the pain one might make the crystals more sell able and make the problem worse. " Perhaps, we can't help the crystals directly, but what about sending healing energy to the people who are doing this? Maybe we could help them to open their eyes and realise what they are doing & (hopefully) stop. Just a thought Sarah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2007 Report Share Posted April 11, 2007 Hey all! I'm new to the group. I do Thai massage, reiki, work w/ & sell crystals..love it!! I am mostly a lurcher here but when I went to that site with the crystals and rods...it made me feel really sick and I had to cry for those poor souls...crystals and makers. reikirita , " Debi C " <dcole6 wrote: > > I looked at the crystals. I feel the same. The phrase gilding the > lily comes to mind. They also advertise lab grown crystals. Are > they good for anything? It would seen to me that the magic would > rely on natural formation of crystals. These are er, well, fake to > me. I think that just knowing they weren't natural would ruin them > for me. > > Scarlet Debi > > , skygreen > <skygreen@> wrote: > > > > There are some carved crystal wands that kind of creep me out at > this > > site http://www.jyotisha.com/Healingcrystals.htm > > These are drilled and have gold rods or gemstones inserted in the > > bottom . I'm all for art and beauty but these do not seem to be a > > natural expression of the nature and mission of these actual > crystals. > > the design and inserts seems imposed rather than brought forth from > > meditation with the crystals and stones . > > I have not carved crystals myself but have done woodcarving and > ceramic > > work and in that work one often finds the design springs forth > from > > the wood or clay. > > > > Peggy Jentoft > > > > -- > > Solarraven http://pjentoft.com/index.html > > Energy work, Nature & Spirituality,Mandala,Crystal Healing, > > Angels, Huna, fairies, mystic " skills & secrets " ,PSP presets,Reiki, > > http://invite.tribe.net/id/2dd3cd38-8e8c-405c-97ad-0f73a9767ceb > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2007 Report Share Posted April 11, 2007 As a Pranic Healing student of Master Choa Kok Sui (MCKS)I thought that I would respond to the comments made on the crystals with the gold rod. In the crystal healing course it is mentioned in the text that crystals do not have any will. Therefore, it follows instructions without resistance. MCKS also states that if you look at a natural crystal clairvoyantly, you can see small sparks of light inside. The sparks or points of light are sparks of consciousness. This is a very basic form of consciousness. Synthetic crystals have minimal sparks of consciousness and as a result are much inferior when compared to natural crystals. Also in reference to the gold rod quartz crystal, it is mentioned in a hand out that I received when I took the crystal healing course, that the special 18K gold rod imbedded in the quartz laser crystal accelerated the flow and the magnatude of the energies flowing out of the crystal. This type of crystal is used by all the senior students of MCKS to produce rapid and ofeten miraculous healings. It is also mentioned that the 18 sided laser crystals from Brazil were specially crafted with MCKS specifications to maximize the healers ability to harness Pranic Crystal Energies. I contacted my teacher instructor to comment on peoples thoughts on these crystals but she is not available at this time. These sites may offer more information if anyone would care to make an inquiry on behalf of this group http://health./ or http://www.pranichealing.org. When I receive more information i will update this group Namaste Patti G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2007 Report Share Posted April 15, 2007 patti goodstriker wrote: >As a Pranic Healing student of Master Choa Kok Sui (MCKS)I thought that I >would respond to the comments made on the crystals with the gold rod. In the >crystal healing course it is mentioned in the text that crystals do not have >any will. Therefore, it follows instructions without resistance. > I find that crystals and crystal deva do have will and consiousness far beyond rudimentary. There are of course many layers and levels of perception. My experience is far different that what is said by MCKS and the handout that you have received . This is not appropriate forum for exploring the qualitiy and effectiveness of specific religious leaders and practices. so other than to repeat that my experience differs That I do not perceive these modifications to the crystals to be positive for either the crystals or people. >MCKS also >states that if you look at a natural crystal clairvoyantly, you can see >small sparks of light inside. The sparks or points of light are sparks of >consciousness. This is a very basic form of consciousness. Synthetic >crystals have minimal sparks of consciousness and as a result are much >inferior when compared to natural crystals. >Also in reference to the gold rod quartz crystal, it is mentioned in a hand >out that I received when I took the crystal healing course, that the special >18K gold rod imbedded in the quartz laser crystal accelerated the flow and >the magnatude of the energies flowing out of the crystal. This type of >crystal is used by all the senior students of MCKS to produce rapid and >ofeten miraculous healings. It is also mentioned that the 18 sided laser >crystals from Brazil were specially crafted with MCKS specifications to >maximize the healers ability to harness Pranic Crystal Energies. I >contacted my teacher instructor to comment on peoples thoughts on these >crystals but she is not available at this time. These sites may offer more >information if anyone would care to make an inquiry on behalf of this group >http://health./ or >http://www.pranichealing.org. >When I receive more information i will update this group >Namaste >Patti G > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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