Guest guest Posted August 25, 2003 Report Share Posted August 25, 2003 Try " Ultimate Healing " . It has a good basis in Tibetan Buddhism, but very good in the healing aspects. Robert Chu, L.Ac., QME chusauli See my webpages at: http://www.chusaulei.com > " Marco " <bergh > > > meditation >Mon, 25 Aug 2003 06:56:04 -0500 > >any good web sites or books that relate to meditation? > >Specially in the therapeutic sense or maybe all meditation is therapeutic? > >Marco > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2003 Report Share Posted August 25, 2003 On Monday, August 25, 2003, at 04:56 AM, Marco wrote: > any good web sites or books that relate to meditation? > > Specially in the therapeutic sense or maybe all meditation is > therapeutic? Kind of depends on what is considered meditation. The terms isn't well defined in common usage. If you look up TM (Transcendental Meditation) you'll find some western style research to support their technique's ability to lower blood pressure, etc. However, I believe that most meditations can achieve the same results. Meditations can, in my opinion, be broken up into two distinct types. 1) those that bring you into the here and now 2) those that take you on a journey I'd like to offer a little rant on one meditation in particular as it resonates well with a large portion of the typical OM patient population as well as martial arts, from which many of us were initially introduced to OM. Firstly, there is a yin and yang to any of the meditations that bring you into the present moment. There is a focus for the mind. It is usually kind of boring after about 3 seconds and the mind will run off to do something more interesting. This is to be expected. When you recognize that this has happened, you return to the focus of your meditation, be that your breath or a picture or a sound or whatever. Many people consider distraction to be a failure. This is not true, it is simply the other half of the process. There is the focus, the distraction, and the return to the focus. THAT is meditation. One of the problems that arises during meditation is the sense of failure with distraction, so we punish ourselves. This should be avoided. Trying to meditate IS meditating. It is rare to find one who can master the mind's running off to run, skip and play, however most can master the need to punish yourself for it. The punishment (frustration, or whatever) just gets in the way and only arises when you think that meditation is all about the " focus " and not about the " distraction " . So, get over that. : ) Yin and yang. Now, the meditation that I like the best for those with Qi stagnation is simply listening to your breath. This works on a variety of levels. The Lung dominates the Qi and is actually part of the whole Qi circulation mechanism. We usually look to Liver for issues of Qi stagnation, but Metal controls Wood and in the case of Qi stagnation being due to excessive causes, it seems reasonable to work with the Metal element to control this condition. In fact, the comedy team of Liver 3 and LI 4 (Yuan-source point of Yang Metal) makes use of this exact relationship. Although the Liver makes sure that the flow is smooth, i.e. it lubricates the channels, it is still the Lungs that pushes it outward just like the Heart initiates the circulation of the Blood. Meditation that causes you to listen to the breath results in a slowing of respiration. When the respiration is slowed, the flow of Qi is calmed and can circulate more smoothly. When the Qi flow is smooth, the mind is less likely to go running off with the distraction of the moment. In deep meditation states, when the Qi is VERY still and the mind is VERY focused on the breath, respiration can become almost imperceptible. I've had meditations where there is so little respiration that I am amazed that I don't pass out. And yet, the need to breath is simply not there. That's how calm the Qi can be. So as for the Qi dynamic, this is an excellent therapeutic meditation that can be practiced anywhere. You don't really have to be seated in a lotus position or have your eyes closed. If you want to get deeply into it, the proper environment is helpful, however even during your moment to moment activities, a little attention paid to the breath can keep you calm and in the present moment. One Taoist exercise suggests what they call " four phase " breathing which means that you simply pause a moment half way through the inhalation and then pause a moment halfway through your exhalation. It keeps one nicely focused on the breath, but you can continue to drive or work or pick a fox tail out of your dog's ear. As most martial artists will agree, the breath and the throwing of a punch are best married to create optimum power. Most schools have some flavor of scream or noise that is married to a movement. This is another application of the Lung's Qi dynamic. The other benefit of this kind of meditation is that it will prevent your mind from generating frustration. The statement that I'm sure we all recognize: " the more I thought about it, the angrier I got " points to the mind's ability to generate emotions. When your mind is focused on the breath, it can't generate more frustration or anger. So when we no longer have a mind that is lighting fires, we can begin to generate some water with the meditation. < /rant > -- Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. -Adlai Stevenson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2003 Report Share Posted August 26, 2003 Thanks one more book on the hit list... marco - " Robert Chu " <chusauli Monday, August 25, 2003 9:52 AM Re: meditation > Try " Ultimate Healing " . It has a good basis in Tibetan Buddhism, but very > good in the healing aspects. > > > > Robert Chu, L.Ac., QME > chusauli > > See my webpages at: http://www.chusaulei.com > > > > > > > " Marco " <bergh > > > > > > meditation > >Mon, 25 Aug 2003 06:56:04 -0500 > > > >any good web sites or books that relate to meditation? > > > >Specially in the therapeutic sense or maybe all meditation is therapeutic? > > > >Marco > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2003 Report Share Posted August 26, 2003 Dear Al, Thank you for taking time to discourse, very thoughtful of you... Will convey this at the hospital with regard to the breath. Something that helps me a lot is a tenisball which I ten to have with me these days... Marco - " al stone " <alstone Monday, August 25, 2003 2:44 PM Re: meditation > > Meditations can, in my opinion, be broken up into two distinct types. > 1) those that bring you into the here and now > 2) those that take you on a journey > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2003 Report Share Posted August 27, 2003 Thank you ,it is very usefull comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 , " euterpsoapin " <euterpsoapin wrote: > > Hoiw many people of you meditate any how did it affect you? > MEDITATATION IS BEST MEDICINE OF ALL THINGS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 I do and it has made a world of difference. i try to do it at least once daily for about fifteen minutes. it opens my heart chakra and realigns my energy meridiens. i also supplement it with yoga, various moves depending upon my aches....etc. I used to have a tremendous static in my right brain. i could visualize it during the beginning of meditation and had not mentioned it to my doctor who told me my right brain was the cause of some of my physical neuro issues. it is much cleaner since i began the meditation. keep in mind all of the various energy disruptors in today's daily life - cell phone towers, etc. I am especially sensitive to their vibrations and can tell you as the group canary that they are affecting you and your body. Make sure to take a moment in your day to realign your energy. Meditation works and heals. Namaste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 I meditate Daily. I clears my mind and helps focus. It is also very helpful because I am ADHD ( use to just be called hyper active, back in the day . .) there are LOTs of meditations which are condusive towarda a specific purpose. But any meditaion will help clear your mind of noise, and be sure to breathe! It is also Extremely Helpful for me to coach others in a specific method and rythm of meditatin when I am conducting Energy work . . Especially in clearing negative energy or assisting someone to balance and clear themselves so they can heal stronger, etc. Michael In life, One can take a starving dog and make him prosperous and he will not bite you. that is the primary difference between dogs and Men Mark Twain Energy Healing Work - Psycho-neuro-immuniological-resonance - Spiritual Counseling Clearing Negative and Detrimental Energies. . . Glad to Help! Michael PhoenixRising *Cloud Turner *Dancing Light Bringer ¦â€¦â¦â €¦â€¦â€¦€¦ …..\\ | // â¦â€¦â†€¦â€¦ ……( o o ) ~~~~~~~~~~o00o~(___)~o00o~~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2008 Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 Has anyone tried Burt Goldmans meditations before? I wanted to get some opinions before I ordered any of his products. It certainly looks great! I listened to the " Daisy Pond " meditation last night, and fell asleep. It REALLY relaxed me. http://www.theamericanmonk.com/points/invitation?uid=73312 Another good site is www.meditationoasis.com I always fall asleep listening to these meditations as well. Those that have anxiety should definitely check these sites out. Stacey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 I agree that 4 times a day is a bit excessive. Unless perhaps, you are a monk or in some sort of religious order. I have found the CD Brainwave Suite Delta to be useful. The first track is for stress reducing, the second for sleep. It is all different tones, water, whale calls, etc. I bought mine here: www.discountnewagebooks.com They are a reputable company. I have ordered from them a number of times and also visited their store/warehouse. Nice people. They also are at most of the Holistic and New Age Fairs in New England. BTW, they are having a book sale right now. DebiP , jackie moore <jerryandkramer wrote: > > I'm no expert on the subject, but four times a day seems excessive and as though it would INDEED be exhausting. I've always read that the idea is 'conditioning'.....You train your subconscious that when I sit HERE, sit this WAY, burn sage, light a candle,...or whatever 'rituals' you tend to use when meditating.....You're training your subconscious, as well as your body, to respond to those things & they are conditioned to respond immeditatly to the knowledge that " We are going to meditate now " . Remember, conditioning (forming a habit) takes some time, but not too long if done everyday. > You don't overdo the number of times nor the amount of time or you WILL burn out quickly & just the thought of doing it will seem more of a chore. > The usual recommendation, I believe, is somewhere in the neighborhood of anywhere from 20 min. to 30 min. to start; then work your way up to longer sittings, until you've reached an hour, as far as I know. > The idea isn't to try to become conditioned so quickly. It's the idea of training yourself > by trying to start at the same time, trying to do it in the same place, & doing it EVERY > DAY.. The 'rituals' such as the candles, sage, ringing a Buddha Gong, listening to new age music or chanting, etc., act as a 'signal' that " It's time " . Sit comfortably, wear comfortable clothing. And DON'T OVERDUE. In this activity, the idea is based on repetition of actions.......Slow and steady wins the race here. > Jackie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.