Guest guest Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 Maria, I don't believe it servers the group any positive purpose to put down anothers beliefs. My life has turned around 180% based on my beliefs and what I have done. If you don't agree... great. We need all the opinions we can get. What works for me may not work for you.. and what works for you may not work for me. There is nothing wrong with that. Is it possible to turn down the tone of your disdain and let others think for themselves? In gratitude, John Van Rees http://www.exquisitecrystals.com At 08:26 AM 8/10/2008, you wrote: >Salut, Alexandra! > >This believe and feel stuff is all baloney. >And this is how the " LOA, NLP, etc marketing gurus " tells us to do. >Ok, I tell you: " feel cold. " It is August and the sun is scorching >and you are outside on a picnic. > >I can say: feel love for the man who just raped your daughter (all >illustrations, of course). > >Or I can tell you: forget Christinanism and now you will believe in >Buddhism. Or better: there is no such a thing as karma; there is >only hell. > >Or I will say: believe that animals do not feel pain. Or whatever. > >You will say: sure. And they you work on " feeling " cold, love >or " believing " in hell or whatever. > >You are working harder and harder to have such feelings and beliefs. > >Does it work? Of course not. > >No matter how many people tell you to feel or believe, it will not >work, no matter how hard you try. It is not in you. No one can tell >you what to feel or believe. And you cannot fake it. > >Visualize. Baloney. > >It does not work. >And do not feel bad about it. It is not your fault. >Those who do indeed believe and feel are no better than you. > >You can visualize millions of dollars in your back account. You >won't get them and it is not your fault. > >Now, what can you do to start manifesting? For me, it was the >crystals and the mantra Shreem. > >I have a collection of crystals beside me: rock, green quartz, green >tourmaline, yellow sapphire, citrine, amethyst, green aventurine, >ruby, emerald, jet, tiger's eye, rhodonite, but what started the >whole process for me was the combination: tektite + libyan glass + >moldavite. > >My first success: I went to a gem show in my town. At the entrance >we wrote our names for a drawing of some nice crystals. > >I was looking around and then I saw the Moldavite. I bought two >small pieces (they are expensive but worth the investment). The >minute I paid for the pieces, my name was announced at the entrance. >I had won the drawing. Immediately! > >So there you have it. >It is good to think positively, but if this were true that only by >saying and thinking positively you can get whatever you desire, then >the Click and Clack Brothers would not be so wealty and so >successfull. (It is an American radio show). And so on and so forth. > >You are " entitled " to all good things just because you are part of >this world. You don't need to believe or feel or visualize or >anything. Just be. And use your crystals for good measure. > >A bientot! >Maria > >PS: It is ok not to know what you want. Also, what you want may not >be what is good for you. Make a list of what you don't want if you >wish. It is a beginning. > >PS2: I heard someone buying Citrine Herkimer. Does anyone know where >to get it? It is used to remove the contrat for poverty that we >might have made some past life. > >--- In ><%40>@\ groups.com, > " Alexandra Lach " ><akali wrote: > > > > Hi Maria, Peggy and all, > > > > I'm new in the group, and interested in crystal healing since a >few months. I'm french, living in the south west of France between >Pau and Lourdes, 49 years old in a few days. > > > > Maria I'm happy to read you post, because last thursday someone >working with NLP told me that I probably not believe enough in the >answers of the universe, so it doesn't work. I was angry about what >she said to me, felt guilty and confused. She told me that I don't >believe and don't do what I have to do to make my goals happen. > > She insisted saying when you ask the universe answers... I felt >I'm not able to understand anything about all that, as if I was >rejected of this world working perfectly for those who understand >what they have to do. > > > > My experience is that the universe gives me what I need when I'm >ready for it... but it can also be a wrong belief that keeps me in a >wrong way... because I'm full of anxiety about the future. > > > > I'd like to know what stone or crystal could help me to know what >I want. > > Peggy that's what I'd like to ask you when I read your post, >before asking the universe for what we want, we must know what we >want... and when it's difficult to know what we want, what can we >do ? > > I'm this kind of people who touch different things, but it's >difficult for me to keep concentrated on one aim or goal and do what >I have to do to reach it. > > > > Many thanks, and welcome to the baby ! > > > > Alexandra > > > > > > - > > drmoratto > > To: > <%40>@g\ roups.com > > > Saturday, August 09, 2008 5:56 PM > > [CrystalHW] Re: abundance > > > > > > Hi Peggy, > > > > Well, congratulations on your grandbaby. I hope both will do >great > > tomorrow. > > > > Regarding the article on manifesting abundance, it clearly shows >teh > > LOA at work, except, it doesn't work like that. I know; I was a >LOA > > coach. > > > > I did this and everything else regarding the LOA for over 15 >years > > and nothing happened. You might say it was my fault, but this is > > what the " gurus' of the LOA want you to think, that it is your > > fault, when in reality, it is not. > > > > So, what happens is that people not only cannot manifest but >they > > also fell guilty about it. A double whammy. > > > > What worked and is working for me is the absolute faith that I >am a > > divine child of God and deserve all the goodness in the world > > because of that, no strings attached. I don't need affirmations >or > > lists, or whatever to be able to manifest. > > > > So, after I let go of guilt and everything else, I got my >crystals, > > programmed them and here I am: happier with a life filled with > > opportunities. The wealth hasn't arrived yet as I see it, but I >am > > better off that I had ever been for 15 years, trying to get the >LOA > > to work for me. > > > > This is just to say to those who are in the same boat: let go of >the > > LOA and you will be happier for it. > > > > Sorry to go against this article but it has been my experience. > > > > Blessing$, > > Maria > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2008 Report Share Posted August 11, 2008 Hello John, Not for once I thought about you when I wrote my message to Alexandra. I only told her about my extensive experience witht the subject. Please, don't take it personally. Good for you that your beliefs help you. I believe that you are one in a million. Just like hitting the jackpot. Congrats! Blessings, Maria , John Van Rees <john wrote: > > Maria, > > I don't believe it servers the group any positive purpose to put down > anothers beliefs. My life has turned around 180% based on my beliefs > and what I have done. > > If you don't agree... great. We need all the opinions we can get. > > What works for me may not work for you.. and what works for you > may not work for me. There is nothing wrong with that. > > Is it possible to turn down the tone of your disdain and let > others think for themselves? > > In gratitude, > > John Van Rees > http://www.exquisitecrystals.com > > > > At 08:26 AM 8/10/2008, you wrote: > > >Salut, Alexandra! > > > >This believe and feel stuff is all baloney. > >And this is how the " LOA, NLP, etc marketing gurus " tells us to do. > >Ok, I tell you: " feel cold. " It is August and the sun is scorching > >and you are outside on a picnic. > > > >I can say: feel love for the man who just raped your daughter (all > >illustrations, of course). > > > >Or I can tell you: forget Christinanism and now you will believe in > >Buddhism. Or better: there is no such a thing as karma; there is > >only hell. > > > >Or I will say: believe that animals do not feel pain. Or whatever. > > > >You will say: sure. And they you work on " feeling " cold, love > >or " believing " in hell or whatever. > > > >You are working harder and harder to have such feelings and beliefs. > > > >Does it work? Of course not. > > > >No matter how many people tell you to feel or believe, it will not > >work, no matter how hard you try. It is not in you. No one can tell > >you what to feel or believe. And you cannot fake it. > > > >Visualize. Baloney. > > > >It does not work. > >And do not feel bad about it. It is not your fault. > >Those who do indeed believe and feel are no better than you. > > > >You can visualize millions of dollars in your back account. You > >won't get them and it is not your fault. > > > >Now, what can you do to start manifesting? For me, it was the > >crystals and the mantra Shreem. > > > >I have a collection of crystals beside me: rock, green quartz, green > >tourmaline, yellow sapphire, citrine, amethyst, green aventurine, > >ruby, emerald, jet, tiger's eye, rhodonite, but what started the > >whole process for me was the combination: tektite + libyan glass + > >moldavite. > > > >My first success: I went to a gem show in my town. At the entrance > >we wrote our names for a drawing of some nice crystals. > > > >I was looking around and then I saw the Moldavite. I bought two > >small pieces (they are expensive but worth the investment). The > >minute I paid for the pieces, my name was announced at the entrance. > >I had won the drawing. Immediately! > > > >So there you have it. > >It is good to think positively, but if this were true that only by > >saying and thinking positively you can get whatever you desire, then > >the Click and Clack Brothers would not be so wealty and so > >successfull. (It is an American radio show). And so on and so forth. > > > >You are " entitled " to all good things just because you are part of > >this world. You don't need to believe or feel or visualize or > >anything. Just be. And use your crystals for good measure. > > > >A bientot! > >Maria > > > >PS: It is ok not to know what you want. Also, what you want may not > >be what is good for you. Make a list of what you don't want if you > >wish. It is a beginning. > > > >PS2: I heard someone buying Citrine Herkimer. Does anyone know where > >to get it? It is used to remove the contrat for poverty that we > >might have made some past life. > > > >--- In > ><%40>CrystalHealing- workshop , > > " Alexandra Lach " > ><akali@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Maria, Peggy and all, > > > > > > I'm new in the group, and interested in crystal healing since a > >few months. I'm french, living in the south west of France between > >Pau and Lourdes, 49 years old in a few days. > > > > > > Maria I'm happy to read you post, because last thursday someone > >working with NLP told me that I probably not believe enough in the > >answers of the universe, so it doesn't work. I was angry about what > >she said to me, felt guilty and confused. She told me that I don't > >believe and don't do what I have to do to make my goals happen. > > > She insisted saying when you ask the universe answers... I felt > >I'm not able to understand anything about all that, as if I was > >rejected of this world working perfectly for those who understand > >what they have to do. > > > > > > My experience is that the universe gives me what I need when I'm > >ready for it... but it can also be a wrong belief that keeps me in a > >wrong way... because I'm full of anxiety about the future. > > > > > > I'd like to know what stone or crystal could help me to know what > >I want. > > > Peggy that's what I'd like to ask you when I read your post, > >before asking the universe for what we want, we must know what we > >want... and when it's difficult to know what we want, what can we > >do ? > > > I'm this kind of people who touch different things, but it's > >difficult for me to keep concentrated on one aim or goal and do what > >I have to do to reach it. > > > > > > Many thanks, and welcome to the baby ! > > > > > > Alexandra > > > > > > > > > - > > > drmoratto > > > To: > > <%40>CrystalHealing- workshop > > > > > Saturday, August 09, 2008 5:56 PM > > > [CrystalHW] Re: abundance > > > > > > > > > Hi Peggy, > > > > > > Well, congratulations on your grandbaby. I hope both will do > >great > > > tomorrow. > > > > > > Regarding the article on manifesting abundance, it clearly shows > >teh > > > LOA at work, except, it doesn't work like that. I know; I was a > >LOA > > > coach. > > > > > > I did this and everything else regarding the LOA for over 15 > >years > > > and nothing happened. You might say it was my fault, but this is > > > what the " gurus' of the LOA want you to think, that it is your > > > fault, when in reality, it is not. > > > > > > So, what happens is that people not only cannot manifest but > >they > > > also fell guilty about it. A double whammy. > > > > > > What worked and is working for me is the absolute faith that I > >am a > > > divine child of God and deserve all the goodness in the world > > > because of that, no strings attached. I don't need affirmations > >or > > > lists, or whatever to be able to manifest. > > > > > > So, after I let go of guilt and everything else, I got my > >crystals, > > > programmed them and here I am: happier with a life filled with > > > opportunities. The wealth hasn't arrived yet as I see it, but I > >am > > > better off that I had ever been for 15 years, trying to get the > >LOA > > > to work for me. > > > > > > This is just to say to those who are in the same boat: let go of > >the > > > LOA and you will be happier for it. > > > > > > Sorry to go against this article but it has been my experience. > > > > > > Blessing$, > > > Maria > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2008 Report Share Posted August 11, 2008 Maria, I didn't say you were talking to just me did I? When you make blanket statements like you did however it does diminish what some else has said. You said: " This believe and feel stuff is all baloney. And this is how the " LOA, NLP, etc marketing gurus " tells us to do. " I don't take it personally... and I don't think any one person should be speaking for the universe. IF you said this was your opinion, etc it would be more appropriate. We have many young people (as well as folks who are hurting or may be in a vulnerable state) on this forum that are not yet able to discern and look for others to give them useful information from the group. In gratitude, John Van Rees http://www.exquisitecrystals.com At 10:09 AM 8/11/2008, you wrote: >Hello John, > >Not for once I thought about you when I wrote my message to >Alexandra. > >I only told her about my extensive experience witht the subject. >Please, don't take it personally. > >Good for you that your beliefs help you. >I believe that you are one in a million. Just like hitting the >jackpot. >Congrats! > >Blessings, >Maria > >--- In ><%40>@\ groups.com, >John Van Rees ><john wrote: > > > > Maria, > > > > I don't believe it servers the group any positive purpose to put >down > > anothers beliefs. My life has turned around 180% based on my >beliefs > > and what I have done. > > > > If you don't agree... great. We need all the opinions we can get. > > > > What works for me may not work for you.. and what works for you > > may not work for me. There is nothing wrong with that. > > > > Is it possible to turn down the tone of your disdain and let > > others think for themselves? > > > > In gratitude, > > > > John Van Rees > > <http://www.exquisitecrystals.com>http://www.exquisitecrystals.com > > > > > > > > At 08:26 AM 8/10/2008, you wrote: > > > > >Salut, Alexandra! > > > > > >This believe and feel stuff is all baloney. > > >And this is how the " LOA, NLP, etc marketing gurus " tells us to >do. > > >Ok, I tell you: " feel cold. " It is August and the sun is scorching > > >and you are outside on a picnic. > > > > > >I can say: feel love for the man who just raped your daughter (all > > >illustrations, of course). > > > > > >Or I can tell you: forget Christinanism and now you will believe >in > > >Buddhism. Or better: there is no such a thing as karma; there is > > >only hell. > > > > > >Or I will say: believe that animals do not feel pain. Or whatever. > > > > > >You will say: sure. And they you work on " feeling " cold, love > > >or " believing " in hell or whatever. > > > > > >You are working harder and harder to have such feelings and >beliefs. > > > > > >Does it work? Of course not. > > > > > >No matter how many people tell you to feel or believe, it will not > > >work, no matter how hard you try. It is not in you. No one can >tell > > >you what to feel or believe. And you cannot fake it. > > > > > >Visualize. Baloney. > > > > > >It does not work. > > >And do not feel bad about it. It is not your fault. > > >Those who do indeed believe and feel are no better than you. > > > > > >You can visualize millions of dollars in your back account. You > > >won't get them and it is not your fault. > > > > > >Now, what can you do to start manifesting? For me, it was the > > >crystals and the mantra Shreem. > > > > > >I have a collection of crystals beside me: rock, green quartz, >green > > >tourmaline, yellow sapphire, citrine, amethyst, green aventurine, > > >ruby, emerald, jet, tiger's eye, rhodonite, but what started the > > >whole process for me was the combination: tektite + libyan glass + > > >moldavite. > > > > > >My first success: I went to a gem show in my town. At the entrance > > >we wrote our names for a drawing of some nice crystals. > > > > > >I was looking around and then I saw the Moldavite. I bought two > > >small pieces (they are expensive but worth the investment). The > > >minute I paid for the pieces, my name was announced at the >entrance. > > >I had won the drawing. Immediately! > > > > > >So there you have it. > > >It is good to think positively, but if this were true that only by > > >saying and thinking positively you can get whatever you desire, >then > > >the Click and Clack Brothers would not be so wealty and so > > >successfull. (It is an American radio show). And so on and so >forth. > > > > > >You are " entitled " to all good things just because you are part of > > >this world. You don't need to believe or feel or visualize or > > >anything. Just be. And use your crystals for good measure. > > > > > >A bientot! > > >Maria > > > > > >PS: It is ok not to know what you want. Also, what you want may >not > > >be what is good for you. Make a list of what you don't want if you > > >wish. It is a beginning. > > > > > >PS2: I heard someone buying Citrine Herkimer. Does anyone know >where > > >to get it? It is used to remove the contrat for poverty that we > > >might have made some past life. > > > > > >--- In > > ><%40>CrystalHealing- ><workshop%40>workshop , > > > " Alexandra Lach " > > ><akali@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Maria, Peggy and all, > > > > > > > > I'm new in the group, and interested in crystal healing since a > > >few months. I'm french, living in the south west of France between > > >Pau and Lourdes, 49 years old in a few days. > > > > > > > > Maria I'm happy to read you post, because last thursday someone > > >working with NLP told me that I probably not believe enough in the > > >answers of the universe, so it doesn't work. I was angry about >what > > >she said to me, felt guilty and confused. She told me that I don't > > >believe and don't do what I have to do to make my goals happen. > > > > She insisted saying when you ask the universe answers... I felt > > >I'm not able to understand anything about all that, as if I was > > >rejected of this world working perfectly for those who understand > > >what they have to do. > > > > > > > > My experience is that the universe gives me what I need when >I'm > > >ready for it... but it can also be a wrong belief that keeps me >in a > > >wrong way... because I'm full of anxiety about the future. > > > > > > > > I'd like to know what stone or crystal could help me to know >what > > >I want. > > > > Peggy that's what I'd like to ask you when I read your post, > > >before asking the universe for what we want, we must know what we > > >want... and when it's difficult to know what we want, what can we > > >do ? > > > > I'm this kind of people who touch different things, but it's > > >difficult for me to keep concentrated on one aim or goal and do >what > > >I have to do to reach it. > > > > > > > > Many thanks, and welcome to the baby ! > > > > > > > > Alexandra > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > drmoratto > > > > To: > > > <%40>CrystalHealing- ><workshop%40>workshop > > > > > > > Saturday, August 09, 2008 5:56 PM > > > > [CrystalHW] Re: abundance > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Peggy, > > > > > > > > Well, congratulations on your grandbaby. I hope both will do > > >great > > > > tomorrow. > > > > > > > > Regarding the article on manifesting abundance, it clearly >shows > > >teh > > > > LOA at work, except, it doesn't work like that. I know; I was a > > >LOA > > > > coach. > > > > > > > > I did this and everything else regarding the LOA for over 15 > > >years > > > > and nothing happened. You might say it was my fault, but this >is > > > > what the " gurus' of the LOA want you to think, that it is your > > > > fault, when in reality, it is not. > > > > > > > > So, what happens is that people not only cannot manifest but > > >they > > > > also fell guilty about it. A double whammy. > > > > > > > > What worked and is working for me is the absolute faith that I > > >am a > > > > divine child of God and deserve all the goodness in the world > > > > because of that, no strings attached. I don't need affirmations > > >or > > > > lists, or whatever to be able to manifest. > > > > > > > > So, after I let go of guilt and everything else, I got my > > >crystals, > > > > programmed them and here I am: happier with a life filled with > > > > opportunities. The wealth hasn't arrived yet as I see it, but I > > >am > > > > better off that I had ever been for 15 years, trying to get the > > >LOA > > > > to work for me. > > > > > > > > This is just to say to those who are in the same boat: let go >of > > >the > > > > LOA and you will be happier for it. > > > > > > > > Sorry to go against this article but it has been my experience. > > > > > > > > Blessing$, > > > > Maria > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 My dear John, This is the third time you are wrongly judging me based on God knows what and why, since you don't even know me. Let's give it a rest, shall we? Enough. Peace be with you, Maria , John Van Rees <john wrote: > > Maria, > > I didn't say you were talking to just me did I? > > When you make blanket statements like you did however > it does diminish what some else has said. > > You said: > > " This believe and feel stuff is all baloney. > And this is how the " LOA, NLP, etc marketing gurus " tells us to > do. " > > I don't take it personally... and I don't think any one person > should be speaking for the universe. IF you said this was your opinion, etc > it would be more appropriate. > > We have many young people (as well as folks who are hurting or > may be in a vulnerable state) on this forum > that are not yet able to discern and look for others to give them > useful information > from the group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Hi,I totally agree with John. I was also raised in a European Christian culture of " rationality " where my spirituality tendencies where classified as psychiatric disorders. So at a very young age a learned to live the double life of a closet mystic. I have 2 Masters degrees from a renowned university and today I'm more convinced than ever that science will never be the true key to knowledge and wisdom without spirituality. I studied educational psychology at university and I know all the scientific tools for analyzing the psychological profile of a person, yet I have found astrology to be the most effective tool for understanding the psychological profile of a person and helping them to fulfill their full potential. Fellow mystics from the younger generation (20 years younger than myself) are teaching me today exactly what John was telling this group: Not rationality will help us find happiness, success and fulfillment, but pure childish unadulterated faith, prayer and reconnecting to the reality of the spirit world. What makes us as humans different from computers and machines is our spirit and faith. Thanks for sharing, John Alisa , John Van Rees <john wrote: > > Maria, > > I didn't say you were talking to just me did I? > > When you make blanket statements like you did however > it does diminish what some else has said. > > You said: > > " This believe and feel stuff is all baloney. > And this is how the " LOA, NLP, etc marketing gurus " tells us to > do. " > > I don't take it personally... and I don't think any one person > should be speaking for the universe. IF you said this was your opinion, etc > it would be more appropriate. > > We have many young people (as well as folks who are hurting or > may be in a vulnerable state) on this forum > that are not yet able to discern and look for others to give them > useful information > from the group. > > In gratitude, > > John Van Rees > http://www.exquisitecrystals.com > > At 10:09 AM 8/11/2008, you wrote: > > >Hello John, > > > >Not for once I thought about you when I wrote my message to > >Alexandra. > > > >I only told her about my extensive experience witht the subject. > >Please, don't take it personally. > > > >Good for you that your beliefs help you. > >I believe that you are one in a million. Just like hitting the > >jackpot. > >Congrats! > > > >Blessings, > >Maria > > > >--- In > ><%40>CrystalHealing- workshop , > >John Van Rees > ><john@> wrote: > > > > > > Maria, > > > > > > I don't believe it servers the group any positive purpose to put > >down > > > anothers beliefs. My life has turned around 180% based on my > >beliefs > > > and what I have done. > > > > > > If you don't agree... great. We need all the opinions we can get. > > > > > > What works for me may not work for you.. and what works for you > > > may not work for me. There is nothing wrong with that. > > > > > > Is it possible to turn down the tone of your disdain and let > > > others think for themselves? > > > > > > In gratitude, > > > > > > John Van Rees > > > <http://www.exquisitecrystals.com>http://www.exquisitecrystals.com > > > > > > > > > > > > At 08:26 AM 8/10/2008, you wrote: > > > > > > >Salut, Alexandra! > > > > > > > >This believe and feel stuff is all baloney. > > > >And this is how the " LOA, NLP, etc marketing gurus " tells us to > >do. > > > >Ok, I tell you: " feel cold. " It is August and the sun is scorching > > > >and you are outside on a picnic. > > > > > > > >I can say: feel love for the man who just raped your daughter (all > > > >illustrations, of course). > > > > > > > >Or I can tell you: forget Christinanism and now you will believe > >in > > > >Buddhism. Or better: there is no such a thing as karma; there is > > > >only hell. > > > > > > > >Or I will say: believe that animals do not feel pain. Or whatever. > > > > > > > >You will say: sure. And they you work on " feeling " cold, love > > > >or " believing " in hell or whatever. > > > > > > > >You are working harder and harder to have such feelings and > >beliefs. > > > > > > > >Does it work? Of course not. > > > > > > > >No matter how many people tell you to feel or believe, it will not > > > >work, no matter how hard you try. It is not in you. No one can > >tell > > > >you what to feel or believe. And you cannot fake it. > > > > > > > >Visualize. Baloney. > > > > > > > >It does not work. > > > >And do not feel bad about it. It is not your fault. > > > >Those who do indeed believe and feel are no better than you. > > > > > > > >You can visualize millions of dollars in your back account. You > > > >won't get them and it is not your fault. > > > > > > > >Now, what can you do to start manifesting? For me, it was the > > > >crystals and the mantra Shreem. > > > > > > > >I have a collection of crystals beside me: rock, green quartz, > >green > > > >tourmaline, yellow sapphire, citrine, amethyst, green aventurine, > > > >ruby, emerald, jet, tiger's eye, rhodonite, but what started the > > > >whole process for me was the combination: tektite + libyan glass + > > > >moldavite. > > > > > > > >My first success: I went to a gem show in my town. At the entrance > > > >we wrote our names for a drawing of some nice crystals. > > > > > > > >I was looking around and then I saw the Moldavite. I bought two > > > >small pieces (they are expensive but worth the investment). The > > > >minute I paid for the pieces, my name was announced at the > >entrance. > > > >I had won the drawing. Immediately! > > > > > > > >So there you have it. > > > >It is good to think positively, but if this were true that only by > > > >saying and thinking positively you can get whatever you desire, > >then > > > >the Click and Clack Brothers would not be so wealty and so > > > >successfull. (It is an American radio show). And so on and so > >forth. > > > > > > > >You are " entitled " to all good things just because you are part of > > > >this world. You don't need to believe or feel or visualize or > > > >anything. Just be. And use your crystals for good measure. > > > > > > > >A bientot! > > > >Maria > > > > > > > >PS: It is ok not to know what you want. Also, what you want may > >not > > > >be what is good for you. Make a list of what you don't want if you > > > >wish. It is a beginning. > > > > > > > >PS2: I heard someone buying Citrine Herkimer. Does anyone know > >where > > > >to get it? It is used to remove the contrat for poverty that we > > > >might have made some past life. > > > > > > > >--- In > > > ><% 40>CrystalHealing- > ><workshop%40>workshop , > > > > " Alexandra Lach " > > > ><akali@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi Maria, Peggy and all, > > > > > > > > > > I'm new in the group, and interested in crystal healing since a > > > >few months. I'm french, living in the south west of France between > > > >Pau and Lourdes, 49 years old in a few days. > > > > > > > > > > Maria I'm happy to read you post, because last thursday someone > > > >working with NLP told me that I probably not believe enough in the > > > >answers of the universe, so it doesn't work. I was angry about > >what > > > >she said to me, felt guilty and confused. She told me that I don't > > > >believe and don't do what I have to do to make my goals happen. > > > > > She insisted saying when you ask the universe answers... I felt > > > >I'm not able to understand anything about all that, as if I was > > > >rejected of this world working perfectly for those who understand > > > >what they have to do. > > > > > > > > > > My experience is that the universe gives me what I need when > >I'm > > > >ready for it... but it can also be a wrong belief that keeps me > >in a > > > >wrong way... because I'm full of anxiety about the future. > > > > > > > > > > I'd like to know what stone or crystal could help me to know > >what > > > >I want. > > > > > Peggy that's what I'd like to ask you when I read your post, > > > >before asking the universe for what we want, we must know what we > > > >want... and when it's difficult to know what we want, what can we > > > >do ? > > > > > I'm this kind of people who touch different things, but it's > > > >difficult for me to keep concentrated on one aim or goal and do > >what > > > >I have to do to reach it. > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks, and welcome to the baby ! > > > > > > > > > > Alexandra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > drmoratto > > > > > To: > > > > <% 40>CrystalHealing- > ><workshop%40>workshop > > > > > > > > > Saturday, August 09, 2008 5:56 PM > > > > > [CrystalHW] Re: abundance > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Peggy, > > > > > > > > > > Well, congratulations on your grandbaby. I hope both will do > > > >great > > > > > tomorrow. > > > > > > > > > > Regarding the article on manifesting abundance, it clearly > >shows > > > >teh > > > > > LOA at work, except, it doesn't work like that. I know; I was a > > > >LOA > > > > > coach. > > > > > > > > > > I did this and everything else regarding the LOA for over 15 > > > >years > > > > > and nothing happened. You might say it was my fault, but this > >is > > > > > what the " gurus' of the LOA want you to think, that it is your > > > > > fault, when in reality, it is not. > > > > > > > > > > So, what happens is that people not only cannot manifest but > > > >they > > > > > also fell guilty about it. A double whammy. > > > > > > > > > > What worked and is working for me is the absolute faith that I > > > >am a > > > > > divine child of God and deserve all the goodness in the world > > > > > because of that, no strings attached. I don't need affirmations > > > >or > > > > > lists, or whatever to be able to manifest. > > > > > > > > > > So, after I let go of guilt and everything else, I got my > > > >crystals, > > > > > programmed them and here I am: happier with a life filled with > > > > > opportunities. The wealth hasn't arrived yet as I see it, but I > > > >am > > > > > better off that I had ever been for 15 years, trying to get the > > > >LOA > > > > > to work for me. > > > > > > > > > > This is just to say to those who are in the same boat: let go > >of > > > >the > > > > > LOA and you will be happier for it. > > > > > > > > > > Sorry to go against this article but it has been my experience. > > > > > > > > > > Blessing$, > > > > > Maria > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 I have to say that I am also in agreement with John. Laurie _____ On Behalf Of Alisa Levy Wednesday, August 13, 2008 11:45 PM [CrystalHW] Re: Honoring one another Hi,I totally agree with John. I was also raised in a European Christian culture of " rationality " where my spirituality tendencies where classified as psychiatric disorders. So at a very young age a learned to live the double life of a closet mystic. I have 2 Masters degrees from a renowned university and today I'm more convinced than ever that science will never be the true key to knowledge and wisdom without spirituality. I studied educational psychology at university and I know all the scientific tools for analyzing the psychological profile of a person, yet I have found astrology to be the most effective tool for understanding the psychological profile of a person and helping them to fulfill their full potential. Fellow mystics from the younger generation (20 years younger than myself) are teaching me today exactly what John was telling this group: Not rationality will help us find happiness, success and fulfillment, but pure childish unadulterated faith, prayer and reconnecting to the reality of the spirit world. What makes us as humans different from computers and machines is our spirit and faith. Thanks for sharing, John Alisa CrystalHealing- <%40> workshop , John Van Rees <john wrote: > > Maria, > > I didn't say you were talking to just me did I? > > When you make blanket statements like you did however > it does diminish what some else has said. > > You said: > > " This believe and feel stuff is all baloney. > And this is how the " LOA, NLP, etc marketing gurus " tells us to > do. " > > I don't take it personally... and I don't think any one person > should be speaking for the universe. IF you said this was your opinion, etc > it would be more appropriate. > > We have many young people (as well as folks who are hurting or > may be in a vulnerable state) on this forum > that are not yet able to discern and look for others to give them > useful information > from the group. > > In gratitude, > > John Van Rees > http://www.exquisit <http://www.exquisitecrystals.com> ecrystals.com > .. <http://geo./serv?s=97359714/grpId=3628161/grpspId=1705060827/msgId =13464/stime=1218707016/nc1=1/nc2=2/nc3=3> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Thanks Laurie and Alisa! I don't know how.. I missed Alisa's post... sorry about that! In gratitude, John Van Rees http://www.exquisitecrystals.com At 05:14 AM 8/14/2008, you wrote: >I have to say that I am also in agreement with John. > >Laurie > >_____ > > ><%40>@\ groups.com > On Behalf Of Alisa Levy >Wednesday, August 13, 2008 11:45 PM >To: ><%40>@\ groups.com >[CrystalHW] Re: Honoring one another > >Hi,I totally agree with John. I was also raised in a European >Christian culture of " rationality " where my spirituality tendencies >where classified as psychiatric disorders. So at a very young age a >learned to live the double life of a closet mystic. I have 2 Masters >degrees from a renowned university and today I'm more convinced than >ever that science will never be the true key to knowledge and wisdom >without spirituality. I studied educational psychology at university >and I know all the scientific tools for analyzing the psychological >profile of a person, yet I have found astrology to be the most >effective tool for understanding the psychological profile of a >person and helping them to fulfill their full potential. Fellow >mystics from the younger generation (20 years younger than myself) >are teaching me today exactly what John was telling this group: Not >rationality will help us find happiness, success and fulfillment, but >pure childish unadulterated faith, prayer and reconnecting to the >reality of the spirit world. What makes us as humans different from >computers and machines is our spirit and faith. > >Thanks for sharing, John > >Alisa > >CrystalHealing- <%40> ><workshop%40>workshop , John Van Rees ><john wrote: > > > > Maria, > > > > I didn't say you were talking to just me did I? > > > > When you make blanket statements like you did however > > it does diminish what some else has said. > > > > You said: > > > > " This believe and feel stuff is all baloney. > > And this is how the " LOA, NLP, etc marketing gurus " tells us to > > do. " > > > > I don't take it personally... and I don't think any one person > > should be speaking for the universe. IF you said this was your >opinion, etc > > it would be more appropriate. > > > > We have many young people (as well as folks who are hurting or > > may be in a vulnerable state) on this forum > > that are not yet able to discern and look for others to give them > > useful information > > from the group. > > > > In gratitude, > > > > John Van Rees > > <http://www.exquisit>http://www.exquisit > <http://www.exquisitecrystals.com> ecrystals.com > > > >. > ><<http://geo./serv?s=97359714/grpId=3628161/grpspId=1705060827/msgId>h\ ttp://geo./serv?s=97359714/grpId=3628161/grpspId=1705060827/msgId >=13464/stime=1218707016/nc1=1/nc2=2/nc3=3> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 Hi, Here is one of my favorite prayers: " May the Creator watch over us always and clear our path from all obstacles " http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Sed-SgiK9E Alisa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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