Guest guest Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 My dad is going through major health issues, and it's been tough to find anything that works. Dad had heart surgery about five years ago, and it really was hard on his body, mind, and spirit. He's now having extreme joint pain, as well as difficulties with cognition. Homeopathy was of little help, and the practitioners I've spoken to said that it's a real " catch 22 " to work with him because some of the medications he takes are ones he needs, but they're also part of the problem. Herbs and vitamin supplements have proven problematic because they can change his blood consistency, leaving him prone to bleeding. I'm putting this out here with the hope that the members will be open to brainstorming about this rather difficult case. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 hi tom, A client of mine with severe joint pain swears by a hematite necklace i made her, wearing it she has no pain and can move easily. maybe a similar thing would help your father? just a thought. sue. --- On Thu, 4/6/09, Tom <reflexology wrote: Tom <reflexology [CrystalHW] Seeking help for my father Thursday, 4 June, 2009, 3:46 PM My dad is going through major health issues, and it's been tough to find anything that works. Dad had heart surgery about five years ago, and it really was hard on his body, mind, and spirit. He's now having extreme joint pain, as well as difficulties with cognition. Homeopathy was of little help, and the practitioners I've spoken to said that it's a real " catch 22 " to work with him because some of the medications he takes are ones he needs, but they're also part of the problem. Herbs and vitamin supplements have proven problematic because they can change his blood consistency, leaving him prone to bleeding. I'm putting this out here with the hope that the members will be open to brainstorming about this rather difficult case. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2009 Report Share Posted June 6, 2009 Thanks. My problem right now is that I don't even have viable options to test for. Dad's decline has been so sharp and so complicated that I just don't know where to go or what therapies to consider. Homeopathy failed, and the practitioner said that she's convinced my father is toxic, but she doesn't know what to do for him. If anyone can help me piece this together, I'll appreciate the help. Tom , mauiskye1 wrote: > > > Aloha Tom. . . Blissings to your father and you. It is a gift that you are so caring and so close to him. It is difficult to see someone you love be in pain and it often leaves us feeling helpless. Life is a journey with many changes and transitions. Bless you for being there. Hopefully you will get guidance and answers that are effective. > > My choice when in doubt about possible solutions is to use pendulum. This can be a great choice when number of possibilities is overwhelming and it seems important to have and immediate answer. You can easily make a 'pie chart' putting possible options and ask for pendulum held slightly above the center to point to answer to question " what is best for highest good of all beings concerned " . > > You can place whatever healing or thereapy options you are considering or suggested in each section of chart. Same methods can be used to assist in selecting stoes that might be beneficial. I find it much more accurate than used method of what someone else thinks is right or what is suggested in a book. > > There are directions at our website that make using a pendulum for first time easy, but you may also want to find someone a little practiced to show you just how refined you can make your questions. I want I can send you a document that needs to be printed out that gives guidelines on many ways to easily use. > > Be sure to take care of yourself in this process. Breathe and exercise, connect with others that you can talk about and share your concerns with. A site called www.carepages.com give excellent support to those taking care of ill or recovering family members. You may e able to connect with information on what you're father is experiencing there or connect with someone else dealing with same. It comes from an allopathic background but offers much holistic support as well. > > Wish I could share, more. Thanks for sharing and keep us updated, > > In Light )'( Skye > > www.heartofmaui.com > 808-280-3682 > > > > > > --- On Thu, 6/4/09, sharon singh <s55singh wrote: > > > sharon singh <s55singh > Re: [CrystalHW] Seeking help for my father > > Thursday, June 4, 2009, 11:16 PM > > > Hi Tom > > Have you ever tried Bowen therapy for physical pain? I have found it worked really well for me when nothing else would i had jaw problems and pain all up the right side of my body sore hip, ankle, neck etc i was in miss alignment and the slightest thing would trigger me off and was not sleeping porpperly either. > > Also Healing or reiki if you can find a really good holistic therapist, or healer that will work on all levels physical, mental, emotional. > > If you would like distant healing - Reiki just let me know and i will send some. > > Sharon > > --- On Thu, 4/6/09, Tom <reflexology wrote: > > > Tom <reflexology > [CrystalHW] Seeking help for my father > > Thursday, 4 June, 2009, 11:46 PM > > My dad is going through major health issues, and it's been tough to find anything that works. > > Dad had heart surgery about five years ago, and it really was hard on his body, mind, and spirit. He's now having extreme joint pain, as well as difficulties with cognition. Homeopathy was of little help, and the practitioners I've spoken to said that it's a real " catch 22 " to work with him because some of the medications he takes are ones he needs, but they're also part of the problem. > > Herbs and vitamin supplements have proven problematic because they can change his blood consistency, leaving him prone to bleeding. > > I'm putting this out here with the hope that the members will be open to > brainstorming about this rather difficult case. > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2009 Report Share Posted June 6, 2009 Aloha Tom. . . again your lovingness and care come through so I will share from the heart some of my own experiences. I don't want to say things in a way that cause emotional upset, but know from experience that there comes a time when the physical body is unable and or unwilling to return to a state of viable health. I've been a part of the process of many transitions as a home health and hospice aid. It is a hard reality, but once accepted the time remaining shared can become enormously healing for all parties involved. Ask your father how he sees his ability and desire for recovery. It's important to share these feeling before his ability to do that changes if possible. This often happens sooner than expected so find the heart to do this as soon as able to. Ask him how he would like to spend that time, how he would like you to help or if there is anything he would like to share. I've seen some of the most miraculous healings between parents and children and husbands and wives happen when that opportunity is offered. A lifetime of toughness or seeming lack of acknowledgment of past 'issues' can melt away in minutes. Those passing usually know and accept what is coming, it's those of us remaining who have a difficult time. If it seems that healing the body is not going to happen use the time to share what you would like to or need to share. Look at old photo albums, read to him from books that he enjoys. Ask his doctors if they think hospice aide would be helpful. It's a free service and support is tremendous beyond what can be understood until you've been blessed with their support. Working with those knowledgeable about palliative care and minimizing pain if possible can allow you to know that you did everything possible. Doing this doesn't mean things won't improve, it just means that you haven't missed an opportunity the you might have otherwise. If there are family members estranged take the leadership role and encourage using the opportunity to do the same. Sometimes those in your fathers position are willing to talk about spiritually when they had spent a lifetime dismissing its importance. Transition can be looked at as a loss or as an opportunity. When my own father passed it was very sudden. The physical distance was great but when he was released from an unhappy life that I could not change I felt a sense of relief for him. This made me uncomfortable until brothers and sisters shared the same sentiment. If need, give him permission to go knowing in your heart that you've done all that you could to support his physical, emotional and spiritual needs while allow him to be in charge of a process that we will all face sooner or later. Stay connected to your own sources of comfort, friends that you care cry, laugh and share with. Dr Phil has a saying that has helped me through some difficult times that goes 'it's not time that heals all wounds, it's what you do with the time that is healing'. The above may be a lot to absorb. In this culture we are so hidden from some realities that it seems impossible to allow them to happen without difficulty. The closeness you feel to your father will not end, regardless of from where and how he sends his love to you and you to him. Knowing that may allow you both to grow and heal from the process. I could share many stories about what I have been privileged enough to witness, but story that matters most right now if one you are living out. All here are sending love. Blessed be! In Light )'( Skye --- On Fri, 6/5/09, Tom <reflexology wrote: Tom <reflexology Re: [CrystalHW] Seeking help for my father Friday, June 5, 2009, 7:07 PM Thanks. My problem right now is that I don't even have viable options to test for. Dad's decline has been so sharp and so complicated that I just don't know where to go or what therapies to consider. Homeopathy failed, and the practitioner said that she's convinced my father is toxic, but she doesn't know what to do for him. If anyone can help me piece this together, I'll appreciate the help. Tom , mauiskye1 wrote: > > > Aloha Tom. . . Blissings to your father and you. It is a gift that you are so caring and so close to him. It is difficult to see someone you love be in pain and it often leaves us feeling helpless. Life is a journey with many changes and transitions. Bless you for being there. Hopefully you will get guidance and answers that are effective. > > My choice when in doubt about possible solutions is to use pendulum. This can be a great choice when number of possibilities is overwhelming and it seems important to have and immediate answer. You can easily make a 'pie chart' putting possible options and ask for pendulum held slightly above the center to point to answer to question " what is best for highest good of all beings concerned " . > > You can place whatever healing or thereapy options you are considering or suggested in each section of chart. Same methods can be used to assist in selecting stoes that might be beneficial. I find it much more accurate than used method of what someone else thinks is right or what is suggested in a book. > > There are directions at our website that make using a pendulum for first time easy, but you may also want to find someone a little practiced to show you just how refined you can make your questions. I want I can send you a document that needs to be printed out that gives guidelines on many ways to easily use. > > Be sure to take care of yourself in this process. Breathe and exercise, connect with others that you can talk about and share your concerns with. A site called www.carepages.com give excellent support to those taking care of ill or recovering family members. You may e able to connect with information on what you're father is experiencing there or connect with someone else dealing with same. It comes from an allopathic background but offers much holistic support as well. > > Wish I could share, more. Thanks for sharing and keep us updated, > > In Light )'( Skye > > www.heartofmaui.com > 808-280-3682 > > > > > > --- On Thu, 6/4/09, sharon singh <s55singh wrote: > > > sharon singh <s55singh > Re: [CrystalHW] Seeking help for my father > > Thursday, June 4, 2009, 11:16 PM > > > Hi Tom > > Have you ever tried Bowen therapy for physical pain? I have found it worked really well for me when nothing else would i had jaw problems and pain all up the right side of my body sore hip, ankle, neck etc i was in miss alignment and the slightest thing would trigger me off and was not sleeping porpperly either. > > Also Healing or reiki if you can find a really good holistic therapist, or healer that will work on all levels physical, mental, emotional. > > If you would like distant healing - Reiki just let me know and i will send some. > > Sharon > > --- On Thu, 4/6/09, Tom <reflexology wrote: > > > Tom <reflexology > [CrystalHW] Seeking help for my father > > Thursday, 4 June, 2009, 11:46 PM > > My dad is going through major health issues, and it's been tough to find anything that works. > > Dad had heart surgery about five years ago, and it really was hard on his body, mind, and spirit. He's now having extreme joint pain, as well as difficulties with cognition. Homeopathy was of little help, and the practitioners I've spoken to said that it's a real " catch 22 " to work with him because some of the medications he takes are ones he needs, but they're also part of the problem. > > Herbs and vitamin supplements have proven problematic because they can change his blood consistency, leaving him prone to bleeding. > > I'm putting this out here with the hope that the members will be open to > brainstorming about this rather difficult case. > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2009 Report Share Posted June 6, 2009 Tom, I can empathize and completely understand what you are going through. I am a caregiver for my 86 yr. old mother who has the whole list of old age issues (diabetic, heart disease, dimentia, arthritis, etc.). Like you, I also have to be careful of what I give her since she is also on blood thinners (coumadin and plavix). Not sure of what you have tried already, but I have had some success with various supplements. My mom's heart condition has been doing very well the last few years and her diabetes has been well controlled. The issues I am trying to tackle right now are her dimentia, arthritis, and various pain issues (primarily due to her catheter right now). For the heart issues, you may want to check into something called hawthorn berries. I have been giving my mom this for years and do not believe there is any interaction with blood levels. I also give her fish oil daily (initially against the wishes of the doctors). My reasoning was that the health/heart benefits outweighed the risk of blood thinning (fish oil can thin the blood) and also the fact that she gets her blood levels checked regularly. After I had started this, the doctors recommended that I start giving it to her. For the brain/cognition issues, I am currently giving my mom phosphatidylserine (I think that is the name) which is supposed to help. I also just started a supplement called vinpocetine. It is hard to judge the success of these since there is no good test if this is helping. It may not be reversing things but may just be slowing the progression down. Best of luck to you and your dad and feel free to contact me if I can be of any further help. Ken Tom <reflexology Thursday, June 4, 2009 6:46:43 PM [CrystalHW] Seeking help for my father My dad is going through major health issues, and it's been tough to find anything that works. Dad had heart surgery about five years ago, and it really was hard on his body, mind, and spirit. He's now having extreme joint pain, as well as difficulties with cognition. Homeopathy was of little help, and the practitioners I've spoken to said that it's a real " catch 22 " to work with him because some of the medications he takes are ones he needs, but they're also part of the problem. Herbs and vitamin supplements have proven problematic because they can change his blood consistency, leaving him prone to bleeding. I'm putting this out here with the hope that the members will be open to brainstorming about this rather difficult case. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2009 Report Share Posted June 6, 2009 Hello Tom, Naturopath Angela responding to your post. May I suggest finding a Naturopathic Doctor/Physician. This is someone who has allopathic medical training as well as holistic. This person will be familiar with the medications your Father is taking and understand how to balance the proper herbs/supplements with the meds he's on. My feeling is you really need an integrative doctor. One or the other with not suffice unless they work together as a team. Be wise in your selection when finding a N.D. - some traditional naturopaths label themselves as " doctors " when that is false & misleading. In this country you are not allowed to use the term " Doctor " unless you've gone to medical school - right or wrong as that may seem. Good Health & Reiki Wishes, Angela Welch-Kumar Traditional Naturopath indiahealthtoday.com , mauiskye1 wrote: > > > Aloha Tom. . . Blissings to your father and you. It is a gift that you are so caring and so close to him. It is difficult to see someone you love be in pain and it often leaves us feeling helpless. Life is a journey with many changes and transitions. Bless you for being there. Hopefully you will get guidance and answers that are effective. > > My choice when in doubt about possible solutions is to use pendulum. This can be a great choice when number of possibilities is overwhelming and it seems important to have and immediate answer. You can easily make a 'pie chart' putting possible options and ask for pendulum held slightly above the center to point to answer to question " what is best for highest good of all beings concerned " . > > You can place whatever healing or thereapy options you are considering or suggested in each section of chart. Same methods can be used to assist in selecting stoes that might be beneficial. I find it much more accurate than used method of what someone else thinks is right or what is suggested in a book. > > There are directions at our website that make using a pendulum for first time easy, but you may also want to find someone a little practiced to show you just how refined you can make your questions. I want I can send you a document that needs to be printed out that gives guidelines on many ways to easily use. > > Be sure to take care of yourself in this process. Breathe and exercise, connect with others that you can talk about and share your concerns with. A site called www.carepages.com give excellent support to those taking care of ill or recovering family members. You may e able to connect with information on what you're father is experiencing there or connect with someone else dealing with same. It comes from an allopathic background but offers much holistic support as well. > > Wish I could share, more. Thanks for sharing and keep us updated, > > In Light )'( Skye > > www.heartofmaui.com > 808-280-3682 > > > > > > --- On Thu, 6/4/09, sharon singh <s55singh wrote: > > > sharon singh <s55singh > Re: [CrystalHW] Seeking help for my father > > Thursday, June 4, 2009, 11:16 PM > > > Hi Tom > > Have you ever tried Bowen therapy for physical pain? I have found it worked really well for me when nothing else would i had jaw problems and pain all up the right side of my body sore hip, ankle, neck etc i was in miss alignment and the slightest thing would trigger me off and was not sleeping porpperly either. > > Also Healing or reiki if you can find a really good holistic therapist, or healer that will work on all levels physical, mental, emotional. > > If you would like distant healing - Reiki just let me know and i will send some. > > Sharon > > --- On Thu, 4/6/09, Tom <reflexology wrote: > > > Tom <reflexology > [CrystalHW] Seeking help for my father > > Thursday, 4 June, 2009, 11:46 PM > > My dad is going through major health issues, and it's been tough to find anything that works. > > Dad had heart surgery about five years ago, and it really was hard on his body, mind, and spirit. He's now having extreme joint pain, as well as difficulties with cognition. Homeopathy was of little help, and the practitioners I've spoken to said that it's a real " catch 22 " to work with him because some of the medications he takes are ones he needs, but they're also part of the problem. > > Herbs and vitamin supplements have proven problematic because they can change his blood consistency, leaving him prone to bleeding. > > I'm putting this out here with the hope that the members will be open to > brainstorming about this rather difficult case. > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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